Craig blew his eninge today....., ... yeah what can i say Options

[urbandork]

Today after the socal mini meet i went up the 405 to meet up a few homies. With my g/f tired i decided to head home for some r&r. On the way home, traveling east on the 10, my engine when by by. I was only going like 65 and I was with in my boost limits but something gave. Engine changed noise and power droped.

I drove home from western exit to calstate la jsut going slow. Any applied power cause a knocking noise.

getting off the freeway it souned like it was running on either 2 or 3 cylinders. So probably blew a rod, colapsed a piston, or blew some rings. Either way im F****** up the butt now. Im just glad i was able to limp home.

So soon i might actually have my trubo set up for sale. Cus if i rebuild the 5s im not truboing it. And if i swamp for a red top im not guna need the trubo.

What do u guys think rebuild the 5s? If so what kind a pistons and connecting rods should i get. Compression wise and company wise, where can i find them. What else do i want

Should i do a BEAMS swamp? if so what tranny should i use?

Should i d a 3sgte?

im so sad i think im guna cry.

[95CelicaST]

Thats sucks man. I'm glad you were able to get home fine. How many miles are on the 5S? If there is a handful I would do the BEAMS swap. Get a clip, so you don't have to find a tranny to use. If you can't afford the BEAMS (understandable) then join the 3S club and make everyone else here that are stuck with our 7A's and 5S's hate you

[lagos]

ouch sorry to hear. what injectors were you using in it and did u ever dyno tune it or have a wideband installed?

just do the 3s swap. its cheap, realiable and built for boosting all day everyday.... not to mention fast as hell

This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 6, 2005 - 1:36 AM

[urbandork]

i had a wide band and it was reading around 12 to 13 almost all the time

as for injectors they wer 445cc injectors and were more then enough for me.

[lagos]

how much boost were u running? did u have an safc or anything?

[Supersprynt]

Sounds like you may have thrown a rod.

[Batman722]

CHECK YOUR HOSES TO YOUR EGR !!!! if one of them pops out (and they will under high boost with a 5s) your motor will sound like crap !!!!

PM Manny for more details about this problem

[Defgeph]

CHECK YOUR HOSES TO YOUR EGR !!!! if one of them pops out (and they will under high boost with a 5s) your motor will sound like crap !!!!

PM Manny for more details about this problem
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Yeah Manny had a similar problem. plugged a hose and it was back in action.

[ice23q]

build a 5sgte.... go on you know you want to..

[presure2]

first, find out exactly WHAT broke. check your egt hose that runs from under the egr valve, make sure that hasnt popped off. if it does, it'll sound like a bad valve tick or somthing..lol
check your oil.
check your coolant level.
then,
exactly how much boost you been running, how many miles on the engine, how were your EGTS, oil pressure, ect.
what kinda filter relocation did you do? what kinda lines ect did you use (size ect)
feed and return line details also.
what kinda plugs (brand, pt#, and gap) pull them and take pics of each one.
get some pics of the engine bay.
what condition was the motor in when you started? compression & leak down test #s ?
::edit::
also, when was the last time you checked and or changed your oil before this happen?

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 6, 2005 - 9:43 AM

[playr158]

BEEEEEAMMMMMMSSS craig

[dustin15brown]

Honestly, IF I WERE YOU, and in your situation.... I'd go for the 3sgte swap... but not the st185, because lets face it, it's becoming an older motor, so the chances of finding a good shaped one is hard..... Just go with the newer st205, if will cost you more, but in the long run, I think it will def pay off, plus it's already faster

[urbandork]

i was running a safcII and a wide band

motor was rebuilt and had less then 6k miles on 4 of which were boosted

Moter was not bossting more then 10 tops

will check egr set up. because my CEl had indicated i had a problem with the egt set up. although i doubt its that cus its nocking really badly

fitler relocation kit was from permercool

oil was check twodays before and had just been changed as and looked really clean

Plugs are ngk the coper ones cant remebmer the number as i have the box of them at home. Will take a look at the plugs

[forkee]

no dammit! i didnt even get a chance to check it out last night. sorry to hear that man. it scares me into not putting the turbo back on mine. =(

[MonsterBOX]

build a 5sgte.... go on you know you want to..
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sorry to hear about the 5s...especially sucks that its just been rebuilt...i were you i would do the 3sgte swap...you already have so much turbo stuff...the safc 2 and injectors just go ahead put a 3s in there and boost it up...i wouldnt do the beams its so much money and its only for n/a lovers i just dont think a beams is worth the money....if u know how to build up engines a 5sgte would be awesome theres guy at mr2oc with the 5sgte and its rediculous

[urbandork]

Well it looks like my egr hoses are hooked up.

i got started my car after just leaving it alone last night and... it sounds like its just not lighting up a cylinder. I think somethings wrong with the ignition system.... what tho im not sure

The knock/ticking that i heard before wasnt bad from the get go and this morning isnt there.

A/F was and still is reading normal all that is rong is massive loss in power and a really rough idle and drive sound. Like i said sounds like a cylinder isnt igniting.

ima go home today and check to c what the plugs look like and i have this thingy that u put next to the wire and it will tell u if the its sparking. We shall c whats craking.

[lagos]

do a compression test. that should tell you whats going on.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

good luck bro...hope its nothing really serious and that u get the car running back to full power asap

bboy

[devilsden97]

Uh there is a '99 BEAMS VVTi For sale under buy/sell. For 3000 with LSD 5-speed attached. Its in montreal.....CHECK IT OUT! (if truely interested in BEAMS swap)

[x_itchy_b_x]

Dibs on the turbo. sEll me it. NOW

[CheesyLobster]

That sucks soo hard man. I also screwed something up on the way home... I saw a Supra on the freeway and wanted to have some fun... Hit 7-8 lbs., then no noise, no nothing, and all of a sudden I'm not getting any boost. I'm hoping its just a vac line or something, but I haven't gotten a chance to look. I hope for you that it't not a big problem. Like someone else said, do a compression test. On a rebuilt motor it doesn't seem that it should die after only 4k mi. Bring it to a mechanic if you have too, I really hope that it's not what you think it is... Keep us posted.

-Brian

[LewFX]

dude, take it ez guys! i know yall got excited when we met and all but dont go blowing yourselves up...anyhoo i already got dibs on craigs turbo!!!

[zipstrips]

if the knocking noise is directly realated to the rpm speed than i put $$ that u spun a rod bearing.

just the excuse to swap.

[urbandork]

Ok compression test done.

cyl 1 150
cyl 2 145
cyl 3 60 o noooo
cyl 4 60 oooooonoooo

I think i have a blown head gasket. Probably between the 3 and 4 cylinder. cus when i do the compresion test on 3 gas and stuff blows out of 4 and when i do 4 stuff blows out of 3.

I know that cyl 1 and 2 are a lil low cus it should be 178 tops and 142 lowest, but considering my engine has 190k miles on it with a rebuild at 170 i would think 150 and 145 is ok right lol?


n e way i also check sprak plugs, wires, BTM, cap and rotor

what do u guys think

and can someone post a link on where i can get a new metal head gasket.


Also the idea was thrown around that it maybe that both the valves for the 3 and 4 cylinders are out and thus the low compression, however i think because stuff was shooting out of the oposite cylinder that it must be a blown head gasket.

I must also note that i cant see any coolan or oil leaking so perhaps its a really tight small/special spot on the head gasket between the 3 and 4 cylinder that doesnt cover/expose any vains for the coolant/oil.

what do u gys think????

[lagos]

shes dead alright.

i doubt its just the head gasket, because a head gasket wouldnt make your motor knock.

take off the oil pan and see if u can see anything funny going on .

[LewFX]

when you arrived, your car was backfiring and making weird noises. When you left, it was blowing off weird, had a wizzing sound to your bov.

[CheesyLobster]

this is probably a dumb thing to make sure of, but the way your car sounded when you left remineded me when I first installed my safc and didn't have the right settings for the sensor type. You were on presure and not karman or any of the other settings right?

Really though that sucks. I think head gasket could cause knocking... getting explosion in a cylinder too early or to late. Just f***ing take off the whole head and you'll know for sure what the problem is.

[urbandork]

shes dead alright.

i doubt its just the head gasket, because a head gasket wouldnt make your motor knock.

take off the oil pan and see if u can see anything funny going on .
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motor doesnt knock n e more. i can keep it at a stable rev point and it still wont knock. And as for before i dont think it was knocking it may have been something else. perhaps the valves? Im not sure.

as for my car backfireing it had always did that. Im not sure why cus i havnt been able to dyno it. Im pretty sure it was something due to timing.


This post has been edited by urbandork: Nov 8, 2005 - 1:08 AM

[urbandork]

where can i get a metal head gasket?

PLEASE keep on putting ur input. i need this problem resolved and the more ppl i get in on this lil think tank the better.

im pretty sure i definantly have a blown head gasket between the 3 and 4 cylinder. as the Haynes book discribes with two ajacent cylinders have the same low compresion numbers.

[Batman722]

where can i get a metal head gasket?

PLEASE keep on putting ur input. i need this problem resolved and the more ppl i get in on this lil think tank the better.

im pretty sure i definantly have a blown head gasket between the 3 and 4 cylinder. as the Haynes book discribes with two ajacent cylinders have the same low compresion numbers.
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toyota dealership

[urbandork]

how do i make sure its a metal one? didnt they jsut recently start usign metal ones?


are there any other stronger head gaskets out there.

what about this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...mMakeTrack=true



This post has been edited by urbandork: Nov 8, 2005 - 3:06 AM

[lagos]

1998-99 5sfes came with a metal headgasket.

before you go out and buy anything, make sure that its the only thing that is damaged. normally when your headgasket goes, you should be able to tell by looking at your oil and coolant. if anything looks like coffee with milk, then that means it is a headgasket issue.

remember a headgasket isint the only thing that can cause low compression. you could have busted your ringlands. pour some oil through the sparkplug holes into the 2 affected cylinders and see if your compression numbers go up or not.

then take off your oil pan and look for any signs of metal shavings or anything. you can also cut open your oil filter to see if three is any metal in there too.

[presure2]

from the sounds of it, you either A: poped your headgasket or B: blew the ringlands.
either way, you'll need to pull the head to find out.
you can order the metal headgasket from a 98+ celica, it came with the metal headgasket stock
who did the rebuild on the engine?

[urbandork]

some warranty company.

Ill try the oil trick today to find out if its the rings or the gasket.

However becasue the two cylinders that are both at 60 are right next to eachother im pretty sure its the head gasket.

however oil looked fine. and the coolant look ok too. Could it be possible that the gasket broke in a place that didnt affect the coolant or oil path ways?

Also if it were the rings then why would the compressed stuff come out of the 3 cylinder when doing 4 and vise versa???

[CheesyLobster]

That sucks soo hard man. I also screwed something up on the way home... I saw a Supra on the freeway and wanted to have some fun... Hit 7-8 lbs., then no noise, no nothing, and all of a sudden I'm not getting any boost. I'm hoping its just a vac line or something, but I haven't gotten a chance to look. I hope for you that it't not a big problem. Like someone else said, do a compression test. On a rebuilt motor it doesn't seem that it should die after only 4k mi. Bring it to a mechanic if you have too, I really hope that it's not what you think it is... Keep us posted.

-Brian
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Sorry to steal your post, but i just wanted to say that i checked my problem out and the wastegate rod simply came off the switch! YES!

Urban, I'm thinking you may want to go to a shop that you really trust and have them take a look. Otherwise, get off that head. Good luck man.

[urbandork]

head is off.

blown head gasket between 3 and 4 cyl w/ no brakage of the gasket around the coolant and oil vains.

Pistons are fine as well as rings. Valves also are ok.

[CheesyLobster]

head is off.

blown head gasket between 3 and 4 cyl w/ no brakage of the gasket around the coolant and oil vains.

Pistons are fine as well as rings. Valves also are ok.

Awesome man. i mean it sucks, but much better than a new engine!

[Batman722]

that is great news, just get the metal headgasket and you are back in business

[urbandork]

car is running better then ever. Why? you ask

Taking about the engine revieled that the warranty company that built my engine messed up timming very baddly. It was at least 10 to 15 degrees off from what it should have been stock. I also discovered that they rebuilt the engine from the bottom end and did not take off the head. Thus my trubo was running on a baddly timmed engine and a 190k old head gasket.

With the timming put back to what it should have been i find that the car is way more responsive and less lazy then it was before.

[LBCxGUY]

still gonna turbo it back???

[urbandork]

lol

helllll yaaaaa

lol turbo was on it today when i started it up lol

[forkee]

thats awesome man

[CheesyLobster]

The timing issue probably contributed to the head gasket blowing. See if you can get the people who did the timing belt to give you some money for the gasket/other probable damage to your engine; you'd have a really strong case.

[95CelicaST]

^ I would definately be getting in touch with the people who rebuilt it. They didn't do their job, so you should be getting some money back.