OH GAWD u guys wont belive what happened this weekend!!, COPS BUST STREET RACING AND IM AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER Options

[easternpiro1]

whats up guys... Well i was minding my own business (ok so i was watching street racing earlier) but we were all in the parking lot and one cop pulls up behind this souped up corvette (that was racing) and a mustang. my friend gets out and asks the cop if everything is okay...he says give me a minute... i say uh oh... he's calling in backup...5 minutes later 2 more cops pull up, one of them is the one who chased everyone away from the racing spot. they start taking liscence plate numbers...including mine... I STARTED TO TALK S**T to the cop but they didnt ticket me for expired tags. and he was nice to me so i held my tounge... he asked me if i knew anything about the racing up the street and they would start taking cars if they saw us again... the whole time im lookin at him like i dont know what he's talking about (which i sorta did) but i wasnt over there at the time so now i cant watch anymore races! do you guys think my rights were violated? i need some opinions.

by the way sorry for the long post...just needed to vent.

[WannabeGT4]

whats up guys... Well i was minding my own business (ok so i was watching street racing earlier) but we were all in the parking lot and one cop pulls up behind this souped up corvette (that was racing) and a mustang. my friend gets out and asks the cop if everything is okay...he says give me a minute... i say uh oh... he's calling in backup...5 minutes later 2 more cops pull up, one of them is the one who chased everyone away from the racing spot. they start taking liscence plate numbers...including mine... I STARTED TO TALK S**T to the cop but they didnt ticket me for expired tags. and he was nice to me so i held my tounge... he asked me if i knew anything about the racing up the street and they would start taking cars if they saw us again... the whole time im lookin at him like i dont know what he's talking about (which i sorta did) but i wasnt over there at the time so now i cant watch anymore races! do you guys think my rights were violated? i need some opinions.

by the way sorry for the long post...just needed to vent.

Are you serious??? There is no right to race on the streets therefore you have no right to be a spectator of said race. Grow up. Go to a track.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I think it's the same as watching cock fighting. It's just not legal. I don't think they should be able to take your car if your not racing. The thing is though, if it's street racing or any other type of legal activity, if you hang out with trouble, expect to get into trouble. It doesn't matter if your doing anything wrong or not, they'll take you down with them. Just try to avoid it, you'll be fine.

[ILuvMyCelica95]

no your rights were not violated, and you should not talk **** to a cop regarless if he is nice to you or not.

[Celicav]

Um...yeah...street racing is actually NOT legal...duh! Or is North Carolina different or something LOL?

[97lestyousay]

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This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Apr 5, 2012 - 7:43 AM

[Supersprynt]

So wait you were watching illegal street racing and you were on private property and cops gave you a hard time like they do all of us and what exactly is your complain? I'm missing something here.

[zachattack15]

They passed a law here in Louisiana awhile back where you can be fined up to 500 dollars or face jail time for just spectating a street race.

[orvillescelica]

^ ^ ^
Same here in washington, both kent and renton now have laws against street racing spectating.

To them its like kiddie porn, doesnt matter if you arent doing it, if you are watching it its just as bad.

[JoKeRkId613]

Are you serious??? There is no right to race on the streets therefore you have no right to be a spectator of said race. Grow up. Go to a track.

Agreed. Sounds like it was your first time watching an illegal street race. Congrats. I can't really talk sh!t because I've seen illegal street races before. Never took part in them and for the most part, I just went because of the hangout spots where they show off the cars and stuff. It was real cool. But yeah, I don't really see what you're surprised about. Personally if I were that cop, if you had up-to-date tags, I would've just taken your car anyway. J/K. You can't really stop people from doing this by talking to them. Trust me, I know. You wake up when something real bad happens, mostly when it affects you personally. Be a good kid and don't do drugs.

This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Nov 15, 2005 - 10:15 PM

[Valo666]

In Ontario and Quebec, if u witness a crime(ie street racing), and u dont report it, you can be charged. Aswell as if u go 2 a street race and ur just standin on the sidelines watchin, you are automaticly considered part of the event. My buddy was up at wasaga beach(bigges fresh water beach in the world, and a great party town in the summer) and he was in a parkin lot in his S14 duin doughnuts around these 3 chicks. Cops came out of no where and busted them. My buddy took off in his S14 and out ran the cops(good ol SR20 ), any ways, most of us bolted too, but the chicks who were standing in the middel got charged with being a part of wrecklace driving and criminal neglagence. They stayed 2 days in jail and had a $300 bail, all for standing in a parking lot and have some guy in a car do doughnuts.

[Jaws4God]

sorry man... glad i wasn't there with ya :-P

[RbrtNdrws]

sorry man... glad i wasn't there with ya :-P

yeah, me too. well good think your car wasnt taken

[pr_caralho]

wow tough luck for you maybe next time the cop will let you off easier next tim (

[CelicaB]

dang..kinda glad i went to my freinds b-day party instead...
Was the vette black with a pretty radical kit? cause if so ive seen him around and it seems like a really fast car
ne way if im not busy u know im down for a meet or somthin after thanksgiving


This post has been edited by CelicaB: Nov 16, 2005 - 12:03 AM

[easternpiro1]

whats up guys... Well i was minding my own business (ok so i was watching street racing earlier) but we were all in the parking lot and one cop pulls up behind this souped up corvette (that was racing) and a mustang. my friend gets out and asks the cop if everything is okay...he says give me a minute... i say uh oh... he's calling in backup...5 minutes later 2 more cops pull up, one of them is the one who chased everyone away from the racing spot. they start taking liscence plate numbers...including mine... I STARTED TO TALK S**T to the cop but they didnt ticket me for expired tags. and he was nice to me so i held my tounge... he asked me if i knew anything about the racing up the street and they would start taking cars if they saw us again... the whole time im lookin at him like i dont know what he's talking about (which i sorta did) but i wasnt over there at the time so now i cant watch anymore races! do you guys think my rights were violated? i need some opinions.

by the way sorry for the long post...just needed to vent.

Are you serious??? There is no right to race on the streets therefore you have no right to be a spectator of said race. Grow up. Go to a track.

first of all...im grown...second of all the track isnt open. its not the point that i was watching a street race earlier in the day. Its the fact that people that see some friends in the parking lot (not knowing what they were up to) gets plates written down. I understand the laws and what happens if i get caught out there...im not blind...and certaintly not stupid. i understand that youre innocent until proven guilty and if the officer had no idea who i was or where i came from. all he knew was that i had an import and sadly thats enough. oh and thanks for the well wishes from the well wishers... just a little post to get conversation going... no need for flaming

no your rights were not violated, and you should not talk **** to a cop regarless if he is nice to you or not.

actually i kinda enjoy it if im in the right...but if im wrong i keep my mouth closed. as seen above...

[Watanbe88]

Anyone know of a place where one can find out the laws for a particular state online? or would i have to do to the DMV?

[JoKeRkId613]

^Well, I don't know about other states, but mine is here: Florida
I'm guessing you could try a search engine. That's what I did. Yahoo! I typed in "florida state laws statutes" and it came up.

[easternpiro1]

HERE WATANBE! SHEESH!!!

316.191 Racing on highways.--

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld.

(b) "Drag race" means the operation of two or more motor vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other, or the operation of one or more motor vehicles over a common selected course, from the same point to the same point, for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of such motor vehicle or motor vehicles within a certain distance or time limit.

© "Racing" means the use of one or more motor vehicles in an attempt to outgain or outdistance another motor vehicle, to prevent another motor vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another motor vehicle or motor vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes.

(2)(a) A person may not:

1. Drive any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, in any race, speed competition or contest, drag race or acceleration contest, test of physical endurance, or exhibition of speed or acceleration or for the purpose of making a speed record on any highway, roadway, or parking lot;

2. In any manner participate in, coordinate, facilitate, or collect moneys at any location for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition;

3. Knowingly ride as a passenger in any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition; or

4. Purposefully cause the movement of traffic to slow or stop for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition.

Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000, and the department shall revoke the driver license of a person so convicted for 1 year. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

(b) Any person who violates paragraph (a) within 5 years after the date of a prior violation that resulted in a conviction for a violation of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. The department shall also revoke the driver license of that person for 2 years. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

© In any case charging a violation of paragraph (a), the court shall be provided a copy of the driving record of the person charged and may obtain any records from any other source to determine if one or more prior convictions of the person for violation of paragraph (a) have occurred within 5 years prior to the charged offense.

(3) Whenever a law enforcement officer determines that a person was engaged in a drag race or race, as described in subsection (1), the officer may immediately arrest and take such person into custody. The court may enter an order of impoundment or immobilization as a condition of incarceration or probation. Within 7 business days after the date the court issues the order of impoundment or immobilization, the clerk of the court must send notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the registered owner of the motor vehicle, if the registered owner is a person other than the defendant, and to each person of record claiming a lien against the motor vehicle.

(a) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the impounding agency shall release a motor vehicle under the conditions provided in s. 316.193(6)(e), (f), (g), and (h), if the owner or agent presents a valid driver license at the time of pickup of the motor vehicle.

(b) All costs and fees for the impoundment or immobilization, including the cost of notification, must be paid by the owner of the motor vehicle or, if the motor vehicle is leased or rented, by the person leasing or renting the motor vehicle, unless the impoundment or immobilization order is dismissed. All provisions of s. 713.78 shall apply.

© Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) may be impounded for a period of 10 business days if a law enforcement officer has arrested and taken a person into custody pursuant to this subsection and the person being arrested is the registered owner or coowner of the motor vehicle. If the arresting officer finds that the criteria of this paragraph are met, the officer may immediately impound the motor vehicle. The law enforcement officer shall notify the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles of any impoundment for violation of this subsection in accordance with procedures established by the department. The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) shall be applicable to such impoundment.

(4) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) by any person within 5 years after the date of a prior conviction of that person for a violation under subsection (2) may be seized and forfeited as provided by the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act. This subsection shall only be applicable if the owner of the motor vehicle is the person charged with violation of subsection (2).

(5) This section does not apply to licensed or duly authorized racetracks, drag strips, or other designated areas set aside by proper authorities for such purposes.

[b][/b]

HERE WANTABE! SHEESH!!! Not NC laws but damn near close though... in all likely hood 90% applies to other situations and circumstances as well.

316.191 Racing on highways.--

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld.

(b) "Drag race" means the operation of two or more motor vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other, or the operation of one or more motor vehicles over a common selected course, from the same point to the same point, for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of such motor vehicle or motor vehicles within a certain distance or time limit.

© "Racing" means the use of one or more motor vehicles in an attempt to outgain or outdistance another motor vehicle, to prevent another motor vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another motor vehicle or motor vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes.

(2)(a) A person may not:

1. Drive any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, in any race, speed competition or contest, drag race or acceleration contest, test of physical endurance, or exhibition of speed or acceleration or for the purpose of making a speed record on any highway, roadway, or parking lot;

2. In any manner participate in, coordinate, facilitate, or collect moneys at any location for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition;

3. Knowingly ride as a passenger in any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition; or

4. Purposefully cause the movement of traffic to slow or stop for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition.

Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000, and the department shall revoke the driver license of a person so convicted for 1 year. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

(b) Any person who violates paragraph (a) within 5 years after the date of a prior violation that resulted in a conviction for a violation of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. The department shall also revoke the driver license of that person for 2 years. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

© In any case charging a violation of paragraph (a), the court shall be provided a copy of the driving record of the person charged and may obtain any records from any other source to determine if one or more prior convictions of the person for violation of paragraph (a) have occurred within 5 years prior to the charged offense.

(3) Whenever a law enforcement officer determines that a person was engaged in a drag race or race, as described in subsection (1), the officer may immediately arrest and take such person into custody. The court may enter an order of impoundment or immobilization as a condition of incarceration or probation. Within 7 business days after the date the court issues the order of impoundment or immobilization, the clerk of the court must send notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the registered owner of the motor vehicle, if the registered owner is a person other than the defendant, and to each person of record claiming a lien against the motor vehicle.

(a) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the impounding agency shall release a motor vehicle under the conditions provided in s. 316.193(6)(e), (f), (g), and (h), if the owner or agent presents a valid driver license at the time of pickup of the motor vehicle.

(b) All costs and fees for the impoundment or immobilization, including the cost of notification, must be paid by the owner of the motor vehicle or, if the motor vehicle is leased or rented, by the person leasing or renting the motor vehicle, unless the impoundment or immobilization order is dismissed. All provisions of s. 713.78 shall apply.

© Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) may be impounded for a period of 10 business days if a law enforcement officer has arrested and taken a person into custody pursuant to this subsection and the person being arrested is the registered owner or coowner of the motor vehicle. If the arresting officer finds that the criteria of this paragraph are met, the officer may immediately impound the motor vehicle. The law enforcement officer shall notify the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles of any impoundment for violation of this subsection in accordance with procedures established by the department. The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) shall be applicable to such impoundment.

(4) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) by any person within 5 years after the date of a prior conviction of that person for a violation under subsection (2) may be seized and forfeited as provided by the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act. This subsection shall only be applicable if the owner of the motor vehicle is the person charged with violation of subsection (2).

(5) This section does not apply to licensed or duly authorized racetracks, drag strips, or other designated areas set aside by proper authorities for such purposes.

[b][/b]

IM schooled already... thank you for caring though

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 16, 2005 - 1:02 PM

[lake1069]

well from my experience last week, i had to go to court for street racin when i wasent. 16 yr old in a crx pulled next to me on a light revs engine talked ****. light goes green he goes cop is on the opposite lane sees him and claims he saw me right next to him takin off. whet to court and told the judge the whole story, she asked me to convince her that i was not "street racing" but ill i have is my word. the kid wont testify or even admit all the stuff he did. his father told the judge that his civic is turboed so the car pulls hard sometimes. the cop was an ass to me yet all i said was no sir yes sir. i hope that with a attorney i can clean my record now. this is what happens when immature try to show off.

[frosty]

^^^ man that sucks...High School kids do that to me all the time. If I see a cop anywhere I just sit still at the light when it turns green.

[o0black0o]

Anyone who races at a regular street side meet is pretty idiotic. Plus you endanger the meet of being cleared. Here in houston I think we are the 3th biggest Import racing scene in the US. We have a meet every friday night more than 75+ cars show up everytime. Cops never show up unless someone in the local stores complained. We already know everyone so it doesn't happen often.

Otherwords Be Safe and if you feel the urge to race goto the track or play some video games bro.

[easternpiro1]

well from my experience last week, i had to go to court for street racin when i wasent. 16 yr old in a crx pulled next to me on a light revs engine talked ****. light goes green he goes cop is on the opposite lane sees him and claims he saw me right next to him takin off. whet to court and told the judge the whole story, she asked me to convince her that i was not "street racing" but ill i have is my word. the kid wont testify or even admit all the stuff he did. his father told the judge that his civic is turboed so the car pulls hard sometimes. the cop was an ass to me yet all i said was no sir yes sir. i hope that with a attorney i can clean my record now. this is what happens when immature try to show off.

I can totally understand...thats the point i was trying to make earlier. yeah i like watching street racing, but the innocent people loosely associated with them or in the wrong place at the wrong time get blamed. it suks getting profiled but hey...what ya gonna do...

[easternpiro1]

Anyone who races at a regular street side meet is pretty idiotic. Plus you endanger the meet of being cleared. Here in houston I think we are the 3th biggest Import racing scene in the US. We have a meet every friday night more than 75+ cars show up everytime. Cops never show up unless someone in the local stores complained. We already know everyone so it doesn't happen often.

Otherwords Be Safe and if you feel the urge to race goto the track or play some video games bro.

i feel you...i was out there to pick someone up i didnt even want to be there because of an accident the week before at THE SAME SPOT! its a secluded business park and i saw a car wrapped around a tree. so i thought it would be stupid to be there, my boy dosent have a phone so i went to get him outta there. but the weird thing is...everyone is perfectly happy just handing out in a parking lot the cops run us away and threaten to ticket us EVEN though THE OWNER says its perfectly fine! the cops here are funny sometimes...

one cop came and chilled out there with us, he was older so he was pretty cool. he said "id rather u guys hang around here standing still than hanging somewhere else racing. its not until we get broke up people want to go race, i never liked racing (celi is REAL slow) so i just watch sometimes.

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 17, 2005 - 1:06 PM

[CelicaBuddy]

Racing on the streets is dumb anyways... Im kinda glad theyre passing laws to ban it cuz its really a dangerous thing for the driver and other people aswell...

Thats why it kinda pisses me off when there's some idiot racing around in a modified car thinking that theyre the sh*t... But in reality, theyre just makin themselves look like the biggest jackass to be driven the streets...

This post has been edited by CelicaBuddy: Nov 20, 2005 - 5:29 PM

[soulshadow]

I think it's the same as watching cock fighting. It's just not legal. I don't think they should be able to take your car if your not racing. The thing is though, if it's street racing or any other type of legal activity, if you hang out with trouble, expect to get into trouble. It doesn't matter if your doing anything wrong or not, they'll take you down with them. Just try to avoid it, you'll be fine.

lol, I love cock fighting. Sure its bloody cool, but u.....know...... Anyways, if you guys want to race go hang out at a fast food joint. The cops can't do jack, cause your either
1.) Buying food
2.) Resting
3.) Racing.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

I think it's the same as watching cock fighting. It's just not legal. I don't think they should be able to take your car if your not racing. The thing is though, if it's street racing or any other type of legal activity, if you hang out with trouble, expect to get into trouble. It doesn't matter if your doing anything wrong or not, they'll take you down with them. Just try to avoid it, you'll be fine.

lol, I love cock fighting. Sure its bloody cool, but u.....know...... Anyways, if you guys want to race go hang out at a fast food joint. The cops can't do jack, cause your either
1.) Buying food
2.) Resting
3.) Racing.

do u ever say anything smart?

[Watanbe88]

Here in NH I just found out there is no law against street racing. All they do is hit you with any traffic laws that you broke, ie. speeding, reckless op, etc.