3SGZE, Just looking around for... Options

[celi94]

Here are some ideas for the 3th generation 3SGE engines

This i found on a duch celica forum...



Its a german owner and has "280" hp on stock internals and 0,4 bar

Now i sure i'm supercharging mine...

[shin]

nice. we need more info on how he did it. wat parts he used etc.

[Predator]

damn you! now i have to do that....

[Drew-887]

Could someone do the same thing to the BEAMS engine?

[Coomer]

Is that big silver box a w/a intercooler?

[Cutrara]

Nice, no lag.

[97lestyousay]

Are there any closer up pics? or a link?

[dustin15brown]

Could someone do the same thing to the BEAMS engine?

What? You are talking about the BEAMS 3sge that came in SS-III's correct? Yes you can swap one in... outsider did it i believe

[97lestyousay]

Bar .4? so 5.8 psi? 135 hp stock to 280hp on 5.8 psi?

This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Dec 6, 2005 - 9:09 PM

[Defgeph]

Think that engine is about 170 area stock.

[97lestyousay]

Think that engine is about 170 area stock.

My Bad. I'm really not sure about 3rd gen 3sge.
Thanks Jeff.


This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: Dec 7, 2005 - 6:47 AM

[JoKeRkId613]

Is that big silver box a w/a intercooler?

damn, i thought that's where they kept the little hamster on the wheel that makes everything work. j/k. sc looks awesome. 280... yummy.

[celi94]

Well i found more pictures about the 3sgze engine...







It says:"da sah ich, mir etwas gänzlich neues, nämlich ne ST202 mit kompressor und wasser/alkohol einspritzung.
soll laut besitzer 280ps auf dem maha haben, kompressor ist eingetragen, hab ich im fahrzegausweis gesehen"

Can sombody explane it correctly

All i know it says that it's a ST202 engine with compressor and water&alcohol injection...

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I like that car a lot. The styling is great. Can't say I care much for the yellow steering wheel. I wonder how this thing would run. It would be neat to see how it preformed compared to a 3sgte.

[jgreening]

Now this is a cool car. The silver box definitely houses the intercooler. The question is whether its a w/a or a makeshift sidemount a/a. And, Randy, I think your right - he probably meant 0.4 bar. The positive pressures that cars will tolerate with superchargers are typically much less than they will with turbos due to the fact that they are so ineffficient. Well, except for the twin screw....

If anyone thought my wheel spin was bad, try a ride in this mofo. Can you say 200+ ft lbs at 1500 rpm?????

[creis]

200+ ft lbs at 1500 rpm?????

lol would have to have very wide drag tires to do anything but burn.

I like the speedo tops at 280 and he's out of gas

cool find, just wana see some specs on it, and maybe a parts list.

[yungazzdriver]

Now this is a cool car. The silver box definitely houses the intercooler. The question is whether its a w/a or a makeshift sidemount a/a. And, Randy, I think your right - he probably meant 0.4 bar. The positive pressures that cars will tolerate with superchargers are typically much less than they will with turbos due to the fact that they are so ineffficient. Well, except for the twin screw....

If anyone thought my wheel spin was bad, try a ride in this mofo. Can you say 200+ ft lbs at 1500 rpm?????

lol naw man u guyz thats not a water to air intecooler........that is the air box for the intake charge for the SC, and most likely the intercooler is a front mount because from the intake manifold it goes down towards the front

[jgreening]

Now this is a cool car. The silver box definitely houses the intercooler. The question is whether its a w/a or a makeshift sidemount a/a. And, Randy, I think your right - he probably meant 0.4 bar. The positive pressures that cars will tolerate with superchargers are typically much less than they will with turbos due to the fact that they are so ineffficient. Well, except for the twin screw....

If anyone thought my wheel spin was bad, try a ride in this mofo. Can you say 200+ ft lbs at 1500 rpm?????

lol naw man u guyz thats not a water to air intecooler........that is the air box for the intake charge for the SC, and most likely the intercooler is a front mount because from the intake manifold it goes down towards the front

You're right. My bad.

[pillinlykfck]

Here are some ideas for the 3th generation 3SGE engines

This i found on a duch celica forum...



Its a german owner and has "280" hp on stock internals and 0,4 bar

Now i sure i'm supercharging mine...

i want a parts list please

[Smaay]

really? you bumped a thread thats almost 6 years old!

[smkr3w]

i want a parts list please

really? you bumped a thread thats almost 6 years old!

necrobump.

This post has been edited by smkr3w: Feb 17, 2012 - 2:33 PM

[yellowchinaman]

really? you bumped a thread thats almost 6 years old!

ULTIMATE BUMP!
I've been talking to the builder of this baby.

running over 600bhp at just 1.3 bar boost at 2krpm with no Laaaaaaahhhhhhg

[3WayStunna]

Is that the twin charged celi that did the hill climb a year or two ago?

[yellowchinaman]

Is that the twin charged celi that did the hill climb a year or two ago?

No its Supercharged built in the netherlands. Not the same orange one you are referring to.

[Neon90424]

i take it the supercharger is at the end of that pipe that branches off the turbo intake

[yellowchinaman]

I believe so. Can't get any more pictures but it has a eaton M62 Supercharger and a GT40 Turbo barrel charge cooled, relocated alternator.

[SwissFerdi]

1.3 bar

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Feb 6, 2014 - 8:33 AM

[Neon90424]

i make 1.9 bar in first gear XD

[yellowchinaman]

Alternator located under the inlet manifold, SC under the Turbo. Very tight, very neat and very compact.

[nsxtypeR]

build by Suprasport My previous car served as kind of a mock-up on this beauty to see if it would all fit. Powersteering got discarded and replaced with an electric ps from a sw20 mr2

that car is for sale by the way......somewhere in the low 20000 range (in euro's)

[yellowchinaman]

build by Suprasport My previous car served as kind of a mock-up on this beauty to see if it would all fit. Powersteering got discarded and replaced with an electric ps from a sw20 mr2

that car is for sale by the way......somewhere in the low 20000 range (in euro's)

Was this yours?
Im talking to Suprasport about this build. I know he's doing a MR2 now. How comes you're selling it?

[nsxtypeR]

no, it's not my car. When Arnout was building the engine, my car was in his shop for an engineswap. he did some testfitting and measuring on my car.
The owner of the car hardly drives it, guess that's the reason for selling

[yellowchinaman]

Ahh I see. The engine has now been sold and the ST205 is being reverted to stock.

[SwissFerdi]

i make 1.9 bar in first gear XD

Yeah, but 1.3bar for a supercharger is crazy. For a turbo 1.9 isn't incredibly high; not knocking your engine (no pun intended), just that this supercharger seems over the top.

[delusionz]

really? you bumped a thread thats almost 6 years old!

ULTIMATE BUMP!
I've been talking to the builder of this baby.

running over 600bhp at just 1.3 bar boost at 2krpm with no Laaaaaaahhhhhhg

Whats the point in all this can anyone tell me? in a celica??? is it some drag car or a rally/race car, what? If you want response AND big power at the same time are you really going to sacrifice upsetting the handling with all that weight in the already front heavy understeering plow throughing chassis for the sake of it? Would it not be smarter to adjust his engine management, mechanical tuning and his own driving to suit a big turbo setup?

Obviously this guy had more dollars than sense in trying to twin charge a celica. It wont help him drive faster around a circuit, the response isnt needed for a drag race when you have a clutch to drop.

All im saying is... you gotta be nuts to wanna build this car... not saying it isnt gonna be stupidly fast, and loose on those 4 wheels, but i see it could be achieved better with more conventional ways

with the sort of money invested in that car, wouldnt you rather see some next level antilag?

and by anti lag i mean the one with the external combustion chamber and the fancy jet turbine engine sh*t that keeps ur turbo spooled whatever whenever,

not the sh*tty little rev limiter bang bang trick

[delusionz]

600hp @2000 is wow? the result of all that engineering work is all its achieved?


What about a *insert hp* turbo spooling at idle?

[delusionz]

the start of the thread with the front wheel celica and the "Plus Z" thing is a cool little way to add pep to a grocery gogetter


but this highjack with the twin charging, i see way more dollars than sense

[celicadreamer96]

I have an extra 3rd gen 3sge laying around and might just supercharge it for the hell of it. Just cause it would be different.. now twin charging just sounds like a waste of money compared to a anti lag set up which your going to get more out of..