 Wheels for ST205 GT4 brakes?, What fits? |
 Dec 5, 2005 - 8:54 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)  |
Like the title says, I'm trying to figure out what (reasonably priced!) wheels will work with ST205 GT4 4-pot/2-pot brakes. I currently have 7th gen Celica GTS 16's on the car and the brakes won't fit with those wheels. I don't have room in the fenders to add spacers on the current wheels. I'd also like to stay with 16's to keep things as low-profile as possible. These are going on my Camry, but fitment is pretty similar between the Celicas and my generation of Camry....
Any suggestions? Thanks, Charlie PS. I'm aware of the issues with fitting the brakes on my hubs and I'll be solving those issues too. 
-------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 8:56 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
16"s?
Yikes. Stock ST205 wheels are 16"s and will fit. I know 17" superleggras and supertourismos also go on. Best thing to do is offer them up and see what works. -------------------- JDM ST205
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Dec 6, 2005 - 9:53 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
try a wheel with 35offset. something like 17x8 35offset would be perfect
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Dec 6, 2005 - 1:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Mr_E @ Dec 6, 2005 - 8:56 AM) [snapback]363888[/snapback] 16"s? Yikes. Stock ST205 wheels are 16"s and will fit. I know 17" superleggras and supertourismos also go on. Best thing to do is offer them up and see what works. Haha... well, I like the way the 16's look (I really don't want the car to be flashy), tires are cheap(er), etc. I barely have room for 225's if the offset is just right (I have 205's right now with about a half inch of clearance). I was hoping to avoid cutting/rolling - but that may be necessary. I found a good thread over on GT4OC that is helping out. Now I gotta go find a picture of the stock ST205 wheels to see if they look good or not... Thanks for the replies so far. -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 2:45 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE Now I gotta go find a picture of the stock ST205 wheels to see if they look good or not... They don't. They're weird looking 3 spoke alloys. --------------------  Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete... |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 2:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Dec 6, 2005 - 2:45 PM) [snapback]364034[/snapback] QUOTE Now I gotta go find a picture of the stock ST205 wheels to see if they look good or not... They don't. They're weird looking 3 spoke alloys. 
-------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 2:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
here ya go:
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Dec 6, 2005 - 4:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
They won't work on the camry because these calipers are designed and offset to fit only the super strut suspension. To even bolt on the celipers will require modification to the caliper brackets. I believe on most toyotas, the bolts bolt onto the bracket, but on these calipers, the bolts bolt onto the knuckle. Assuming you can get these to bolt, the knuckle offset wouldn't be right so there's no gurantee you can even run the ST205 rotors. To finish off... you cannot swap over the super strut front suspension without much of the steering rack.
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1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 7:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Toyota gave GT4s 5 spoke 16 x 7.5" alloys later in life - post '96/97 IIRC.
Gary --------------------  1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 8:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(GT4WRC @ Dec 6, 2005 - 7:40 PM) [snapback]364142[/snapback] Toyota gave GT4s 5 spoke 16 x 7.5" alloys later in life - post '96/97 IIRC. Gary Yup. Those look better. I wonder if anybody has those in the US? I guess I'll start asking around with importers... -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 6, 2005 - 8:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 6, 2005 - 4:15 PM) [snapback]364066[/snapback] They won't work on the camry because these calipers are designed and offset to fit only the super strut suspension. To even bolt on the celipers will require modification to the caliper brackets. I believe on most toyotas, the bolts bolt onto the bracket, but on these calipers, the bolts bolt onto the knuckle. Assuming you can get these to bolt, the knuckle offset wouldn't be right so there's no gurantee you can even run the ST205 rotors. To finish off... you cannot swap over the super strut front suspension without much of the steering rack. There is no way to get the superstrut suspension to work on my Camry. The front suspension design is significanly different between the Celica's and my gen Camry. The hubs are almost the same though... (non-superstrut, I mean) Trust me, I'll figure out a way to get these brakes on my Camry... Custom brakets are no problem. That is a project for AFTER the rest of the swap though.
-------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 7, 2005 - 8:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(GT4WRC @ Dec 7, 2005 - 12:40 AM) [snapback]364142[/snapback] Toyota gave GT4s 5 spoke 16 x 7.5" alloys later in life - post '96/97 IIRC. Gary Yup. Facelift cars got 6 spokes. I have a set in my garage. The problem isn't the offsets as such, it's that the calipers are bloody huge and a lot of spoke designs foul them. I tried a set of 18x8 split rim Racing Harts that didn't go on. Not even close. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
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Dec 7, 2005 - 1:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Mr_E @ Dec 7, 2005 - 8:08 AM) [snapback]364354[/snapback] Yup. Facelift cars got 6 spokes. I have a set in my garage. Heh... how much you want for them??  -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 7, 2005 - 3:48 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
u got any idea wut it would cost to ship rims from UK to Cali.
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Dec 7, 2005 - 4:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Drocay @ Dec 7, 2005 - 3:48 PM) [snapback]364496[/snapback] u got any idea wut it would cost to ship rims from UK to Cali. haha.  -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Dec 7, 2005 - 7:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Here's what they look like....
 Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
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Dec 8, 2005 - 8:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(phattyduck @ Dec 7, 2005 - 9:36 PM) [snapback]364506[/snapback] QUOTE(Drocay @ Dec 7, 2005 - 3:48 PM) [snapback]364496[/snapback] u got any idea wut it would cost to ship rims from UK to Cali. haha. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
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