You're invited to... The Phoenix Tuning 24-hour Engine Swap EVENT Options

[Dr_Tweak]

I was out in the shop today and I had this idea. I thought it might be cool....

I was thinking of having some people come up, someone with a good video camera and editing skills, and doing a monster garage-style engine swap race. Basically a 24 hour straight out engine swap, like start at 7 am and it has to be done by 7 am the next day. I'm thinking something like a 3SGTE swap into an ST, including all the wiring, front mount intercooler, EVERYTHING, in 24 hours straight. Maybe have a bunch of people up to hang out and goof off, whatever.

Then have someone edit the video, speed up parts of it, do some voice-over, and then put it out there on the internet.

Thoughts?

PS: This won't happen until late next year at the earliest.

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Dec 14, 2005 - 3:12 AM

[purplegt4]

sounds like a good idea!! let me know if u need the ST

o yea and make it a 6spd blacktop 20v

[presure2]

sounds like fun, doc.
id love to come by and get a glimpse of the "thrashing"
haha

[Batman722]

including all the wiring ? damn that is something that would be fun

[x_itchy_b_x]

ill come though my car isnt an st im sure itll due. jk jk
but no. ill def come.

This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Dec 14, 2005 - 8:34 AM

[Fate]

i'll come-ill edit and do the swap into my ST.

[ILuvMyCelica95]

oOOoooOoooOOo i wanna come!!

[Jdog1385]

ill donate my car. its a GT so it would also be a little easier. and i have some time to find parts and coordinate things. just let me know

heres what we do:

we use 2 celicas and have 2 teams (we split the teams up as evenly as possible). we have a full day to do the swap and add all of the extra goodies. The 2 teams can use whatever modifications that they want. then we race them the next day to see which one is faster (or to see which one will start for that matter, )

This post has been edited by Jdog1385: Dec 14, 2005 - 9:18 AM

[Batman722]

in all seriousness, there would have to be a lot of preperation to make this happen.

For example, all of the routine maintenance would have to done on the motor (rear main seal, timing belt, tensioners, good vac hoses, ect...), you would have to have ordered the hybrid clutch and have it ready for install, and have all of the IC piping, clamps, IC itself, ect.

with the correct preperation and tools it is very feasible to get the job done rather quickly.

[easternpiro1]

i would be more than willing to donate my car (though youre waaay up there i have a Slow Turismo...but its an automatic...maybe that would add to the challenge?? lemme get the moolah up..IM SERIOUS!!!

[Akimbo]

I'll come if you do my GT. But I don't want it rushed.

[Dr_Tweak]

Well I'm happy to see a good response. The competition idea is pretty cool, I would host that if my shop was bigger.

As far as all you guys who are talking about donating your car, who's really serious? You would still have to pay for the swap, but the labor would only be $500.

I would like to do an ST, but we could always do a GT now and an ST down the road....

[playr158]

i'd be in to compete but wats in it if we win?
cause i know it can be done in less then 24 hours.....

[Jdog1385]

yea im serious...competition or not

[snapshotgt]

i have not seen this mentioned yet . . .

who would pay for the engines?

also...it should be more than a 24hr competition . . . you want to do it right and not screw up . . . so i'd make it longer than 24hrs . . .

. . . i was thinking, someone like the speed channel might like doing a documentary on this? . . . they do like this kinda stuff . . . (building competitions) . . .

~snapshotgt

[Akimbo]

Uhh...whoever owns the car would pay for the engine...

[Supersprynt]

OK ok ok I got it. Doc, Art, Jeff & I vs the world.

[ILuvMyCelica95]

i have not seen this mentioned yet . . .

who would pay for the engines?

also...it should be more than a 24hr competition . . . you want to do it right and not screw up . . . so i'd make it longer than 24hrs . . .

. . . i was thinking, someone like the speed channel might like doing a documentary on this? . . . they do like this kinda stuff . . . (building competitions) . . .

~snapshotgt

hmm thats a lot of "..." Well this is an idea, nothing is final. JDM GUY Yo Bro did turbo in 24ish. Who knows.

OK ok ok I got it. Doc, Art, Jeff & I vs the world.

yeah, that seems a bit one-sided don't ya think?

ooo can we make teams! I wanna be on a team. If i was on the world team would Captain Planet be our group leader?

yeah.. i know... stfu Tina.

[Jdog1385]

OK ok ok I got it. Doc, Art, Jeff & I vs the world.

ok, you could use my car.

[playr158]

i'm seriously up for this if it goes down....but it defenitly could be done in under 24hours if you had a decently sized team (say 6 people) that each had knowledge

aka 1-2 people to do wiring

4 people to install, drop, swap

[MonsterBOX]

Well I'm happy to see a good response. The competition idea is pretty cool, I would host that if my shop was bigger.

As far as all you guys who are talking about donating your car, who's really serious? You would still have to pay for the swap, but the labor would only be $500.

I would like to do an ST, but we could always do a GT now and an ST down the road....

i have 5,000 dollars and an st

[Cutrara]

Would it include removal of the 7A in the 24 hours?

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Hmmmm.....Doc, I've talked to you already in planning a swap for this up comming year, so maybe for times sake we could make it a GT vs. GT swapathon. I'm totally in for something like this, I think its a great idea. So consider me a swap candidate in this battle.

We should lay out some ground rules here and make sure we know what is involved in such an undertaking. But totally possible if we get enough hands to show up.

It should read something like....."6GC Presents....The First Annual Swapathon 2006". I think the idea kicks ass. Lets do it.

[playr158]

i would assume the motor drop would count as thats 1/4 of the work needed to be done...

but charging 500$ for free labor is just retarded.....i say the owner of the car must buy all the parts...and labor is free since well if your not paying the contestants then your just pocketing money for doing nothing and thats wrong....

[Jdog1385]

i would assume the motor drop would count as thats 1/4 of the work needed to be done...

but charging 500$ for free labor is just retarded.....i say the owner of the car must buy all the parts...and labor is free since well if your not paying the contestants then your just pocketing money for doing nothing and thats wrong....

things obviously need to be worked out

[blu94gt]

I'd be willing to wield a camera while guys are doing the swap. I don't have a video camera (yet) or if someone would have one to provide that would be awesome too. This sounds like it could be a ton of fun.

[Batman722]

Would it include removal of the 7A in the 24 hours?

I could remove a 7a in about 15 minutes

[dustin15brown]

hey i'm game.... the real trick would be to get celiman there and have him attempt and awd conversion in the 24 hours

[jayi12-15psi]

I'll do it, definately, I'll drive all the way from Missouri. I'll of course pay for all the parts.

[jdg371]

This could be like Junkyard Wars cept only 24HRS to build your vehicle hehe!

Make a documentary and send it to TLC!

[Supersprynt]

Would it include removal of the 7A in the 24 hours?

I could remove a 7a in about 15 minutes

Yeah you did that at Applebees that one time, then we all played soccer with it.

[lagos]

umm whats the point in doing it in 24hrs? id rather take my time and do it right, instead of having something just thrown in there.

and like dustin said, you would really have to make sure you have a full check list of parts and **** ready cause normally its something small that creates the big hold ups.

[MonsterBOX]

do it over a week but cut the video to make it seem like 24hrs

[ILuvMyCelica95]

i'm seriously up for this if it goes down....but it defenitly could be done in under 24hours if you had a decently sized team (say 6 people) that each had knowledge

aka 1-2 people to do wiring

4 people to install, drop, swap

psst Dan you forgot 1 person to stand around and look pretty... confused.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

u know im down doc.

bboy

[Kwanza26]

*kwanza twitches and looks at his two bay shop with two lifts... points and laughs*

*kwanza stops to think... considers wiring nightmare... cries and bows*

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Dec 15, 2005 - 2:50 AM

[Fate]

blue, i can lend you a video camera because ill edit your footage and make a nice video.

tweak i already talked to you about a swap(into my ST) and i'm as serious as ever.

[blu94gt]

I think this would be awesome. Now we will have the 3sgte rebuilt before the swap correct?

[Jdog1385]

great, now we got 20 people that want to do the swap on their cars...look what you started tweak,

[Dr_Tweak]

great, now we got 20 people that want to do the swap on their cars...look what you started tweak,

No kidding, eh?

Well I think it's cool that there's so much interest. I ran it by my wife today (who's the realist among us), and she actually thought it would be a good idea.

Anyway, I think a lot of you missed the original point. The idea is for Phoenix Tuning to do a swap in 24 hours. I would need someone to bring their car up for the swap, to pay for the parts and labor (yes, $500 of MY LABOR), someone to run a good video camera, and several people to fool around and make it more fun. At least, that was the ORIGINAL idea.

This whole idea of having a competition is pretty cool too though. I would be interested in doing it, but it would take a lot more planning, and we would need a larger shop than mine, I think.

Let's take this one step at a time though. Who has a video camera and knows how to run it?

-Doc

[playr158]

ok this isn't a competition then.... its you getting paid more money, for you and some free labor.

This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 17, 2005 - 11:58 PM

[Cutrara]

ok this isn't a competition then.... its you getting paid more money for free labor...GHEY

It's fair for him to charge it if he rebuilds two 3S-GTEs and sets up the whole contest.

And Dr. Tweak has to buy lunch

[Dr_Tweak]

ok this isn't a competition then.... its you getting paid more money for free labor...GHEY

You're not very smart, are you? I suggest you go back and read my posts and try to think about what I'm saying.

THE ONLY PERSON WORKING ON THE CAR WOULD BE ME.

At least, that was the ORIGINAL idea. MY labor. So yes, I would not be working for free. Of course, now it's taken a different twist so we'll have to see how things develop... I'm working on a couple things here to make this possible.

-Doc

[jayi12-15psi]

ownage by tweak
= +1

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I understand the Dr Tweak is doing everything, but even if it was him getting others to help him, and it being free labor. I think we should appreciate the oppertunity to learn something. That's how you learn things, from doing them. That's how colleges work.

[Fate]

i can edit and weild a camera...it's what ill be going to school for in the fall. tweak, you know how bad i want a swap on my car, afterall we already talked about it so hopefully i can be one of the ones whos cars get swapped.

[playr158]

and several people to fool around and make it more fun

the wording makes it sound like more then you were just working on the car....

[Dr_Tweak]

and several people to fool around and make it more fun

the wording makes it sound like more then you were just working on the car....

Well the idea was more along the lines of having a big party at the shop with people keeping me pumped up all night as I bang out a swap in 24 hours straight... that sorta thing.

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Dec 18, 2005 - 12:00 AM

[playr158]

ah see thats cool....
but man 24 with 1 person i dunno lol