full rebuild and upgrade Options

[playr158]

ok here is a list of parts and pieces i have so far that i'm goin to replace and/or upgrade and who makes it

Coilover Sys.----------TEIN
EDFC-------------------TEIN
SwayBar F&R----------Susp. Tech.
Pillowball, Front-------Cusco
Pillowball, Rear--------Cusco
Brake pads Rear------EBC
6gc RR caliper---------Bendix
6gc RL caliper---------Bendix
6gc R rotor------------SP Perform.
7gc big brake(Front)----------ROTORA
Wheels-------------------------STERN (ST2)
Tires Front---------------------BFGOODRICH------------KDW2 215/35YR18
Tires Rear---------------------BFGOODRICH------------KDW2 245/35YR18
Axel Left-----------------------CROWN
Axel Right---------------------CROWN


so basically what i'm asking is....
what would you add/change/remove to/from this list
and WHY would you do so......

if you can't say WHY i don't want a post....lookin for some good reasons and so forth
(oh BTW i don't need strut bars )

This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 29, 2005 - 1:58 AM

[purplegt4]

why would you need to replace your axles? what kind of 400+ hp motor u putting in there?

[Jeremy1210]

how good are the pillowball mounts? what are they supposed to do?

[purplegt4]

adjust camber

[playr158]

cusco upper pillow ball mounts are not only stronger and pretty but they allow camber adjustment.....

and why replace axels? cause i have 2 broken ones

[nik]

cusco upper pillow ball mounts are not only stronger and pretty but they allow camber adjustment.....

and why replace axels? cause i have 2 broken ones

how did you brake 2 of them even when i was turboed and did 1/4 at spokane speed way i never had a problem with my stock axels

and thats a nice list of parts there about $4000

[playr158]

more then 4000$
and the driver side inner CV boot was broken just because it did....
and then i intensionally trashed the passenger side

[95CelicaST]

What Stern's are you looking at? Since most of their wheels are 8.5" or wider, and meant for RWD applications

[Cutrara]

Why do you need a big brake kit, unless you're producing massive amounts of power or autocrossing? If you're just looking for better handling I'd go with:
Rear Disc conversion
Cross drilled/slotted rotors all around
Some type of high performance pads
Stainless Steel Braided Brake lines

I can understand how the 7GC big brake kit could be a nice addition, but to me, not worth the some $1200 it costs.

[playr158]

unless you seen an autocrosser running 18" chrome rims i think your goin on the wrong track

and i already have wats on your list minus the SS brake lines but good idea i'll add them to the list...

big brakes are for the fact that they are big brakes and freakin sweet....
honestly do dinky lil ST rotors look good behind massive 18s? nope.... i need sumthing to fill the space

[playr158]

http://photobucket.com/albums/y174/srplayr...w¤t=JC2077.jpg
stock 6gc front brakes with 18s..............

7th gen AEM big brakes with 18s............
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_image...9/473030_32.jpg

which looks better

[Cutrara]

First pic doesn't work, but damn, they do look sweet in that second pic. Can't wait to see it finished, it will be badass.

[macavely]

while your at it dan .. replace all your suspension bushings ... your sturt monut tops .. get the adjustable ones...

[playr158]

mac read the list....

cusco upper pillowball mounts
adjustable in the front
fixed in the rear

[SHERMAN]

Does Tein even offer a electronic damping force controller that works with their SS coilovers for the Celica?

[Cutrara]

Does Tein even offer a electronic damping force controller that works with their SS coilovers for the Celica?

I think theres some problems with hood clearence, you need to use the GT-FOUR hood, because it gives some extra room under the hood for the controllers.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Dan, I think 95CelicaST is right....Sterns start at 8.5" wide, so just consider that when you shop. I love Stern wheels too, but thats alot of rotating mass unless performance and fitment is a secondary concern.

[playr158]

yea my fronts are 8.5" wide and the rears are 9.5" wide

performance haha thats joke

and fitment well thats wat offset is for....that and nothing a little bodywork couldn't help if needed

Does Tein even offer a electronic damping force controller that works with their SS coilovers for the Celica?

I think theres some problems with hood clearence, you need to use the GT-FOUR hood, because it gives some extra room under the hood for the controllers.

oh you have to use the ST185 EDFC system and need a hood change/cut to allow for the extra height of the EDFC

[purplegt4]

performance haha thats joke

do i know u?

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

yea my fronts are 8.5" wide and the rears are 9.5" wide

performance haha thats joke

and fitment well thats wat offset is for....that and nothing a little bodywork couldn't help if needed

Uh oh, Dan.....I have a feeling thats how your last project got into trouble. "....nothing a little bodywork can't help....."

9.5" wide wheels are going to rub like mad, I can't see them fitting withough hitting the inside of the strut on bumps or griding against the wheelwell. I mean, not to rain on the parade here....it'll look great with deepdish wheels like that, but I think the drivability of your car will suck hardcore if you use such a wide wheel.

[nik]

Coilover Sys.----------TEIN $1100 shipped ebay

EDFC-------------------TEIN $340 shipped ebay

SwayBar F&R----------Susp. Tech. $254.39 + ship Nopi

Pillowball, Front-------Cusco $215 +ship www.cyberauto.com

Pillowball, Rear--------Cusco $???? www.cyberauto.com
Brake pads Rear------EBC
6gc RR caliper---------Bendix
6gc RL caliper---------Bendix
6gc R rotor------------SP Perform.
6gc big brake(Front)----------willwood about $2000 +ship


This post has been edited by nik: Dec 29, 2005 - 5:36 PM

[Kwanza26]

I can only imagine you guys sitting on Santa's lap...

[JoKeRkId613]

^lmao

[kevstir]

if i was doing a full rebuild i would replace the stabilizing bushes on number 1 arm at the hub (circled in blue) and replace the whole number 2 arm (the adjustable one ) both sides, i replaced them on mines and the difference was amazing , granted mine were shot and knocking like a bugger but if your going to put performance suspension on the car then these bushes should be replaced as the harder suspension is only going to wear them out sooner or later i found out the hard way

Here's a picy of what I'm talking about , the bush circled in blue can be replaced on its own but the one in red cant you need to buy a whole new arm (in the UK anyway )



This post has been edited by kevstir: Dec 29, 2005 - 8:42 PM

[jgreening]

The EDFC is a toy. As infrequently as you would change suspension settings, I think you would be better off with just the SS coilovers or the D2 coilovers for the 6gc. I am not positive but I think the D2's come with the pillow ball mounts. Research it in the suspension forum of the mr2oc.com and you will find the answer.

[playr158]

yea my fronts are 8.5" wide and the rears are 9.5" wide

performance haha thats joke

and fitment well thats wat offset is for....that and nothing a little bodywork couldn't help if needed

Uh oh, Dan.....I have a feeling thats how your last project got into trouble. "....nothing a little bodywork can't help....."

9.5" wide wheels are going to rub like mad, I can't see them fitting withough hitting the inside of the strut on bumps or griding against the wheelwell. I mean, not to rain on the parade here....it'll look great with deepdish wheels like that, but I think the drivability of your car will suck hardcore if you use such a wide wheel.

LOL, well in the relation to the rubbing it defenitly depends on the offset i chose, the ride height and if needed i'll have the rear fenders rolled or cut (professionally) i already know of people running 9 inch wide on the celica so hopefully the half inch won't aggrevate too much...just have to do some measuring and so forth to see how it will fit

and if i need to get a low offset/spacers and push out the rear quarter panels well then just more reason to save up and have someone make me a widebody

if i was doing a full rebuild i would replace the stabilizing bushes on number 1 arm at the hub (circled in blue) and replace the whole number 2 arm (the adjustable one ) both sides, i replaced them on mines and the difference was amazing , granted mine were shot and knocking like a bugger but if your going to put performance suspension on the car then these bushes should be replaced as the harder suspension is only going to wear them out sooner or later i found out the hard way

Here's a picy of what I'm talking about , the bush circled in blue can be replaced on its own but the one in red cant you need to buy a whole new arm (in the UK anyway )

hrmm dually noted and thanks for the input!

and NIK



This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 30, 2005 - 12:52 AM

[celiracer]

I'm pretty sure playr knows what he's doing. I mean come on he did the supra conversion. And look pretty good. I got faith in you Dan. Lets hope to see it all done.

[playr158]

haha thanks but corey is playing the guy who sits on your shoulder and tells you wat to do.....a Conscience i do believe
and i thank him for it....always good to have someone beating you with a baseball bat when something could potentially turn out....well like my supra project lol.....let it rest in hell

[SlowCelica94]

Ok, player, if I don't bust your balls who will?

Your setup actually sounds great. I'd ditch the EDFC, cuz like lagos said, you dont adjust it that much and it's just more money.

As for the brakes, sure big brake kits look nice, but brakes for stopping, not looks. I think you'd be satified with a nice rotor/pad combo. SS lines aren't any where NEAR worth the time and effort in installing em. I'd recommanded DOT 4 fuild as well, but I'm sure you already know that.

New bushings will statisfy you, altho once again, a real big pain to install.

And wheres the LSD?

[playr158]

lol LSD nah....

but EDFC is basically a nice toy that i want cause none of you have it

big brakes are more for style and look then pure functionality although it will be an increase in stopping power...yet one more thing yall don't have
SS lines well lets just say i don't have any to start


i mean after all this entire build is things that i don't "have to have"


This post has been edited by playr158: Jan 3, 2006 - 11:25 AM

[95CelicaST]

As for the brakes, sure big brake kits look nice, but brakes for stopping, not looks. I think you'd be satified with a nice rotor/pad combo.

big brakes are more for style and look then pure functionality although it will be an increase in stopping power...yet one more thing yall don't have

I agree with Slow, none of us (including you playr) need to come to a stop any faster than whats given. If you want fancy brakes then do a rear disc conversion and put on a set of slotted crossdrilled rotors, save yourself some money. I understand the rareness factor that no one has it, but no one has it because we arent needing to go from 150MPH to 0 in a few seconds.

[playr158]

rear disk conversion is already in the works
the big brake kit is to fill up space inside my 18s
celica rotors just are small plus 4 pod calipers are sexi

[dustin15brown]

I'd put the big brake kit in IF your swapping

[playr158]

i am

[blu94gt]

I plan on doing a rebuild and upgrade like this too. Not quite to the degree you are though lol. I just figured I can do all of my suspension, brakes, and sway bars in one blow. I just want to do some ceramic pads, brembo rotors, KYB's and Tein S-tech's, and suspension technique sway bars.

I do want to see how the EDFC works though, sounds cool

[droptopGT]

damn dan, always twerkin that baby of yours, well i hope that i can see her when everything is done. i gotta head down to VA or something to hang out with you, catch you lata boss

[purplegt4]

And wheres the LSD?

lol LSD nah....
EDFC is basically a nice toy that i want...

big brakes are more for style and look then pure functionality...
...the big brake kit is to fill up space inside my 18s...

lsd would make it worth it...

and uhh if youre going for looks (suspension wise) - move this thread to off topic

This post has been edited by purplegt4: Jan 10, 2006 - 3:30 AM

[Cutrara]

Bump, how's this project going? Any pics?

[LewFX]

if you need a suspension arm #2, i have a brand new one available.