What next, GT4 or Beams Options

[magnum]

96 GT4 or 99 Beams Celica which should i go for next?

This post has been edited by magnum: Jan 22, 2006 - 10:45 AM

[LewFX]

both!

[magnum]

I wish............

[CelicaZR]

Both for sure
But thats a hard one.
I would probably go GT-4,
but the ss-III is a very very close 2nd.

[Celica_Fan]

Beams if you want to be unique every man and his dog has or wants a GT-FOUR.

[dustin15brown]

BEAMS

[x_itchy_b_x]

GT4 awd ftw

[lagos]

you really cant beat awd and turbo...get the GT four.

[OrbitalGT95]

u r stupid if u dont get a gt4...awd>then fwd

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I absolutely love NA horse power. But I awd is a bigger passion of mne. I vote GT-4, even if everyone has one. Not everyone has one with 400hp. That's how you be unique.

[Hanyo]

blow off valves rock!

[Driveby]

GT4 all the way, if you want to be different get a WRC model

[doGGy]

Lol just got my Beamsy, and i totaly love it, and i aint upset at all what i aint got GT4.... "4" is a good thing if you want AWD turbo, but.... blah, i wount say it, cuz i will get banned off the site... Maybe im just the person who isnt all up on the GT4 after test driving it and working on it.....

[vangSTa_celica]

I'd say get the SS-III.

I kinda realized alot of ST guys like the NA power vs. GT guys who like the AWD Turbo power.

This post has been edited by vangSTa_celica: Jan 22, 2006 - 12:45 PM

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I'd say get the SS-III.

I kinda realized alot of ST guys like the NA power vs. GT guys who like the AWD Turbo power.

I haven't noticed this. I'm a GT guy and I like NA power.

[doGGy]

Just in case SSIII comes with the LSD as stock... so the power delivery to the ground is wayyyyy better then on normal non LSD gearbox

[Magic]

96 GT4 or 99 Beams Celica which should i go for next?

Both cars are great and rare pieces It depends what you like to drive and to feel too

1996 JDM GT4 = 4WD 255bhp
1999 Beams = 2WD 200bhp

[Celica_Fan]

front wheel drive good for skids lol.

[dan4]

Just in case SSIII comes with the LSD as stock... so the power delivery to the ground is wayyyyy better then on normal non LSD gearbox

stock gt four has lsd.....

[GT4WRC]

Beams if you want to be unique every man and his dog has or wants a GT-FOUR.

How many ST205 GT-Fours have you seen in NZ - especially compared to EVOs and GTRs for example? And how many seriously modded GT-Fours here too? Could probably count them on one hand. They are not that common which is why I like owning one. It's different
Gary

[Celica_Fan]

What I mean't is in other countries people always put in GT-FOUR motors or want to import GT-FOURS. Yeah GT-FOURS are quite rare in NZ. There are lots of beams ones around coming in from the dealers at pretty good prices and also private sales I don't know what makes them rare. There was a GT-FOUR at a dealer with the spoiler removed that looked horrible and how could anyone remove that trademark wing.

[popstar]

Go SS III mate !

GT 4's are good, but not all that when yoou put them next to a Evo or scooby !!

but the Beams in a FWD is one hell of a car (as long as it's not auto!!!)
and you won't get all the stress from the boy racers at the lights.....

[tangcla]

GT-Four.

But then again, Gary and I might just be biased

and actually they aren't that common, there's only 5000 real GT-Fours worldwide...

[doGGy]

Go SS III mate !

GT 4's are good, but not all that when yoou put them next to a Evo or scooby !!

but the Beams in a FWD is one hell of a car (as long as it's not auto!!!)
and you won't get all the stress from the boy racers at the lights.....

Finally SOME ONE steped out and said this..

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Go SS III mate !

GT 4's are good, but not all that when yoou put them next to a Evo or scooby !!

but the Beams in a FWD is one hell of a car (as long as it's not auto!!!)
and you won't get all the stress from the boy racers at the lights.....

Finally SOME ONE steped out and said this..

Which part of this is most significant to you?

[Driveby]

GT-Four.

But then again, Gary and I might just be biased

and actually they aren't that common, there's only 5000 real GT-Fours worldwide...

There are a lot more than 5000 GT4's mate, the one 6GC with a bit of rareity is the WRC model, of which 2,500 were built.
For me I would go GT4 every time over the SSIII as it has the total package and ticks every box
Power - check
Speed - check
Handeling - check
Stopping -check
4WD - check

Youve got to remember a lot of the ST205s - mine for instance - will be 12 years old this year and for their age are fantastic. Yes there are alot of newer models that can match and beat the 4 but if it was still in production today, would get my money yet again.
I maybe a little biased as an owner but I call it as I see it

[tangcla]

Who says they lose to Scoobies?

Mine has beaten every WRX thrown at me - beaten Evo6, beaten a few STIs....

[Magic]

Ehmmm maybe some owners trying to compare Evo 7-8-9 and WRX 7-8 with ST205 of 1994-1999!!
Its hard for a Mitsubishi or Subaru owner to discover that Mitsubishi or Subaru just release a version newer than the one he is having now.....

[tangcla]

... sorry don't quite follow what you're trying to say there...

[popstar]

Go SS III mate !

GT 4's are good, but not all that when yoou put them next to a Evo or scooby !!

but the Beams in a FWD is one hell of a car (as long as it's not auto!!!)
and you won't get all the stress from the boy racers at the lights.....

Finally SOME ONE steped out and said this..

doGGy as you know i own a '4' and wouldn't part with it for the world
but yes i'll step up and be counted as saying there not the be all and end all,
but blin there a damn nice car

Who says they lose to Scoobies?

Mine has beaten every WRX thrown at me - beaten Evo6, beaten a few STIs....

i never said they loose to them, you just get a lot of attention from them
on the road.......
and when i'm not in the mood to play silly b*&^*s it really can get on your tits !!
oh they hold there own with all but the top of the ranges (depending on the driver)
but there over ten years old in design now..........

This post has been edited by popstar: Jan 25, 2006 - 9:06 AM

[Magic]

... sorry don't quite follow what you're trying to say there...

What i am trying to said is that Subaru and Mitsubishi are having new version almost once every year for Evo and Wrx

[magnum]

i think that i've opened a can of worms

[popstar]

maybe mate

but it good to get these things out in the open.........

is the SSIII stick or auto ??

[magnum]

yep she's Manual

[popstar]

well in that case mate, i'd have the SS III

cause with the fun i've not been having trying to keep an AWD on ice covered road
this winter..... when you start to slide you can try putting you foot down in to a nice power slide
but once you go, really go.......

in the summer

I recon a high powered FWD, 6 year old Celica would be the catch of the month mate

what's the milage on the two cars ??

[magnum]

53000 mls on the Beams,73000 on the GT4

[popstar]

so much of a muchness then really !

it's your call now mate, only one thing else white cars (SSIII) look lovely when there clean, but if she's your daily drive you'll be washing every other day if you like a clean car !

wahtever thou, i bet you end up with the '4'

[magnum]

you might be right

[popstar]

'The four is with you'

and once you've seen it there's no good back.

good luck mate, keep us posted on what one you get

[zachattack15]

GT4, turbo yuummmm

[doGGy]

Go SS III mate !

GT 4's are good, but not all that when yoou put them next to a Evo or scooby !!

but the Beams in a FWD is one hell of a car (as long as it's not auto!!!)
and you won't get all the stress from the boy racers at the lights.....

Finally SOME ONE steped out and said this..

Which part of this is most significant to you?

The part what the ovner of the "4" isnt only telling how his ccar is good and etc..

yes, the "4" is good thing, good looking and etc - but stupidly overpriced (IMHO). SuperStrut makes it even more complicated... Not counting CT26... Im working with lots of rally guys who Prepare / work / drive cars what are Turbo and AWD. I test drove / drove GT4 - All track and FOR ME this is not the car what i would want (i would LOVE to have a combo of a ST202 + 3SGTE engine and brakes from the "4" and LSD tranny).

This is just my opinion, and as much as i love all Celicas, but im not what "crazy' about the "4".. Maybe im just scared of the hastle what Turbo / AWD car could bring... And maybe im not what Rich to handle all the hastle??

This IS JUST MY opinion - all this based on MY experience with this car, and im not TRYING to make a statment here.

[Driveby]

To be fair, if high running / maintenance costs scare you then the 4 isnt for you as it can be crippling to run/repair bearing in mind they are getting long in the tooth.
Mine has cost me £25 in necessary repairs (broken thermostat) in the last 12 months but I can also show you people whove spent over £5,000 to keep their cars on the road this year.
Im sure which ever one you do decide on, itll rock your world and become the love of your life

[popstar]

Hey the expence is with any car you have when they get to our age.....

Hey doGGy ! i thought the SS III came with super strut ????

[doGGy]

Hey the expence is with any car you have when they get to our age.....

Hey doGGy ! i thought the SS III came with super strut ????

Yes it did.... And on my SSIII first thing on the list is to Change it to good old Macpherson...

[popstar]

Hey the expence is with any car you have when they get to our age.....

Hey doGGy ! i thought the SS III came with super strut ????

Yes it did.... And on my SSIII first thing on the list is to Change it to good old Macpherson...

i've not driven a 6th gen without Super strut, but i'm told you can feel the difference when pushing the car ! why not just change it all now then your good for at least 150,000km ???

[magnum]

Have a look at this ,,,,Click below

http://carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fusea...ar&carID=346208

[celica47]

OH MANNNN, i AM MOVING To ireland AS SOON AS I GRADUATE COLLEGE! lol. How much does that transfer to Amercian dollars? €14,750

This post has been edited by celica47: Jan 26, 2006 - 10:52 AM

[magnum]

Live mid-market rates as of: Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:05:03 AM EST

14750 EUR
EURO
1 EUR = 1.2251 USD = 18070.225 USDUnited States Dollar
1 USD = 0.8163 EUR

This post has been edited by magnum: Jan 26, 2006 - 10:58 AM

[UltimatePrince]

I would have to agree with everyone else and say gt4, but which ever one you like. both have their advantages and disadvantages, fewer with the gt4 though. Peace.

[SHERMAN]

AWD. go for the GT4

[Celica_Fan]

No offence but some of you americans are funny as lol.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

No offence but some of you americans are funny as lol.

How so?

[popstar]

98 GT 4..............

at that price you gonna get it

i thought you said it was a 96 first of, or this is another one ????

buy the bitch

[Celica_Fan]

Lil off topic but had to share this doesn't it look mean http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...on-43422010.htm Anything Toyota turbo is cool. What I mean't about some of you americans are funny as is that some of you say I will move to whatever country has GT-FOURS just to get one lol No offence though.

This post has been edited by Celica_Fan: Jan 27, 2006 - 1:41 AM

[magnum]

98 GT 4..............

at that price you gonna get it

i thought you said it was a 96 first of, or this is another one ????

buy the bitch

Yep it is a different one much better than the last one i think

[CelicaZR]

Magnum, you are very lucky to get to choose between
two stunning cars.
I dont get that choice over here
Whichever one you chose I'm VERY sure you'll
be HAPPY with

[popstar]

if you can afford it, get it and join the club ?

that looks so nice and clean mate

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

What I mean't about some of you americans are funny as is that some of you say I will move to whatever country has GT-FOURS just to get one lol No offence though.

I'm very in love with cars, so I feel the need to move somewere were I can get ahold of some good ones. The GT-4 would be nice, but we don't get very many high end sports cars here. Cheaper ones at least. We don't get some of the expensive ones either though. TVR for example.

[purplegt4]

1 vote beams!

I'd say get the SS-III.

I kinda realized alot of ST guys like the NA power vs. GT guys who like the AWD Turbo power.

yea im one of those ST guys...

[magnum]

I went for a gt4 the one i was after the 98 was sold so i went and got a 97 GT4 in white ,i will get up some pics when i get my new wheels and projectors fitted

[popstar]

Hey congrats' mate

glad you got something in the end i was stsrting to think you'd fallen for a 'Honda" and were to ashamed to tell 'lol'

so what are you plans for your new baby now ?

if i where you i'd just enjoy it for the moment

any way take care, and have fun mate

[GT4WRC]

I went for a gt4 the one i was after the 98 was sold so i went and got a 97 GT4 in white ,i will get up some pics when i get my new wheels and projectors fitted

Common sense prevailed then
Gary

[magnum]

The main thing is to get used to the BOOST first. It already has an Apexi ECU with FC Commander also sports Exhaust...But one question i have to ask is what is this behind the front grill...
Its like a little jet with a rubber hose attached which goes down the side of the washer bottle reservoir...?

[GT4WRC]

Water sprayer for the WAI pre-rad. Probably activated by the headlight washer switch on the dashboard.
Gary

[magnum]

i was going to cut it off is it of any use ,it is only held on with cable ties,
where is it supposed to be mounted

[BBoYRuGGeD]

i hate u guys...u guys get to have both the 4 and the beams and us US guys dont

bboy

[magnum]

[GT4WRC]

i was going to cut it off is it of any use ,it is only held on with cable ties,
where is it supposed to be mounted

In its current state, it is probably not at all effective. A properly set up system will help reduce inlet temps but that won't do much IMHO.
Gary

[dlx742]

i was going to cut it off is it of any use ,it is only held on with cable ties,
where is it supposed to be mounted

In its current state, it is probably not at all effective. A properly set up system will help reduce inlet temps but that won't do much IMHO.
Gary

i dont know much about your's but my buddy with a turbo civic got 20ish hp (dyno proven) from his IC sprayer kit...

[GT4WRC]

Re-read my post and you'll notice that I said 'properly set-up' system will help reduce temps. The one magnum has there is not 'properly' set up.
I have a Cusco water spray controller currently on its way from Japland to use in conjunction witha custom set-up I'm going to be using.

And what do you mean by '20ish bhp'? Either it made 20hp or it didn't Assume that the test was done back-to-back at the same session with no break in between - ie run without spray and then run with? Otherwise it is meaningless.
Gary