Might need HUGE favor from US 6Gc people, people who have 6gens what are beeing parted out... Options

[doGGy]

Well, im desperate... finding a junked LHD celica here - is near to imposible... I already bought all the parts i need to repair, but RHD to LHD conversion isnt going as i planed Stuck on Firewall, i cant find it ANYTHERE in damn Lith and around all other countrys... Cuz all the Junked Celicas are either from UK or from UK... All LHD ones are already pressed, and are in Celica heaven lol...

If someone would be willing to cut the damn firewall out of the parted out celi - i would be more then happy.... I could show there it needs to be cutted out... I know shipping would be overkill - but i need this damn thing...

Let me know guys.

Thanks,
Romas

This post has been edited by doGGy: Jan 25, 2006 - 6:56 PM

[dustin15brown]

I will help and all that if i can find a junked celi... and I'll ask around... You know i got ur back

[celiracer]

Hey man, There are not a lot of celi's in my town. But i'll look around for you.. And i'll let you know asap if i find anything.

[celicaST]

ill check on a celi this weekend at a dealer. he wont sell it so its been sitting in the lot for a while.

[Coomer]

I have two extra Celis that could be cut apart. How much work is it to cut out the firewall? Because I'm rarely home and when I am I never have much time.

[doGGy]

I have two extra Celis that could be cut apart. How much work is it to cut out the firewall? Because I'm rarely home and when I am I never have much time.

bout hour if Engine is out. Not much to cut, basicly about 5 cuts need to be made.. but i would need to show you how (pics) cuz if done not right - then i will have no use.. Cuts need to be done Lower then the places it is connected, so what the guys at bodyshop could disconect it at the places it was originaly connected and weld it on the stock welding pionts...

This post has been edited by doGGy: Jan 25, 2006 - 7:23 PM

[hitcachi]

Just got a new GT down here at Olstons import auto salvage, i could look into it for you. Lemme know. -Jim

[TheStreetzKing]

i can get u a firewall more than likely, 4 celicas at my neighbors jard

[BBoYRuGGeD]

freds got a busted celi...me and mac might be able to cut that sucker out if no one else can...lemme call mac and fred and ask em about it...

bboy

[yungazzdriver]

damn man i would love to have a lhd celica!!!!!!!! but theres a celica in a junkyard round ma way and well if none of others can i can definately do it!!!

[dustin15brown]

damn man i would love to have a lhd celica!!!!!!!! but theres a celica in a junkyard round ma way and well if none of others can i can definately do it!!!

umm we ARE lhd.....

[TheStreetzKing]

aight doggy im going to the junkyard tomorrow to get a price to see if i can get it cut, i kno the owners so it would be a deal, and shipping shouldnt be to hard for me

[playr158]

well if you wanna swap stuff so i can RHD
i'll cut it out for you tomorrow

[Batman722]

Romas, I will talk to Manny tomorrow about it. We will see what we can do.

[yungazzdriver]

@#%!#% damn ma bad i meant i wish we were rhd...................durrrr i feeel dumb!!!!! well yeah like playa sed man ill trade!!!!!!! rhd for lhd!!!!

[nightrider67]

Well, im desperate... finding a junked LHD celica here - is near to imposible... I already bought all the parts i need to repair, but RHD to LHD conversion isnt going as i planed Stuck on Firewall, i cant find it ANYTHERE in damn Lith and around all other countrys... Cuz all the Junked Celicas are either from UK or from UK... All LHD ones are already pressed, and are in Celica heaven lol...

If someone would be willing to cut the damn firewall out of the parted out celi - i would be more then happy.... I could show there it needs to be cutted out... I know shipping would be overkill - but i need this damn thing...

Let me know guys.

Thanks,
Romas

hey ill get this number 4 you i got a junk yard we call the celica yard cause like every car there is a celica... i donno what the lhd and rhd and that **** is but u can ask them surely 2 god they have it... i'll update u next time im over in that part of town

[celicaST]

just drove by and its still there in the back lot and gunna talk to him tomorrow, but damn, looks like everyone here at 6gc wants to help out! well since youve done the "one for all" with your custom work, its now "all for one". i think im gunna cry

This post has been edited by celicaST: Jan 26, 2006 - 1:07 AM

[jayi12-15psi]

@#%!#% damn ma bad i meant i wish we were rhd...................durrrr i feeel dumb!!!!! well yeah like playa sed man ill trade!!!!!!! rhd for lhd!!!!

man, you're having a hard time around here lately. Could you try and not use all the ............. and !!!!!!!! It's like typing in all caps.

I can't believe you guys have so many celicas just sitting around in junk yards, granted I live in a smaller town, but I called around to the only 2 junkyards I know in the area and neither had seen one in forever. I wish I could just go to the junk yard and find 4 celicas.

[doGGy]

Ohh guys I aint thought i will get so much response... Well, shot me prices, and we will be able to start this...

[dustin15brown]

romas... people are willing to help you out so much because you're a great guy and provide such great services to us

[playr158]

i'd say i'll just straight swap you your parts for mine so there is only shipping...

oh and BTW...in disassembling frame and such i notice most everything is tack welded...i'd assume the firwall might be as well..which would require just drilling the tackwelds and removing cutless..but i'm not sure on that one

This post has been edited by playr158: Jan 26, 2006 - 11:49 AM

[TheStreetzKing]

ok got a price.. its gonna be like 500-750 for the firewall to be cut out and given to me, and then i would have to ship it so depending on shipping i dont kno the final price, i can have this thing in like a week though so if ur looking for something quick i got it, idk if u wanna spend 5-750 hundred seeing as i have no other estimate, everyone i talked to *3 junkyards and a foreign car garage* said its such a waste so i guess the price i got wasnt so bad, i was expecting like a 1000 or something, so yea lemme kno and i got it

[Batman722]

Romas, don't worry about it. Manny and I have discussed it and we will ship the firewall. Done.

[snapshotgt]

Dustin to the rescue!...yet again

~snap

edit: Dustin (and any others)...since you guys are beasts at helping ...click this link! http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33111

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Jan 26, 2006 - 1:52 PM

[doGGy]

ok got a price.. its gonna be like 500-750 for the firewall to be cut out and given to me, and then i would have to ship it so depending on shipping i dont kno the final price, i can have this thing in like a week though so if ur looking for something quick i got it, idk if u wanna spend 5-750 hundred seeing as i have no other estimate, everyone i talked to *3 junkyards and a foreign car garage* said its such a waste so i guess the price i got wasnt so bad, i was expecting like a 1000 or something, so yea lemme kno and i got it

LOL here it cost about 100$ but it is difficult to find it... Nope thanks, for what kind of money i can get a trashed 6GC here lol most expensive piece of metal i guess. But thanks anyway

[TheStreetzKing]

alright well thats what he told me, lol i knew it was gonna be some stupid number and he told me it wasnt worth it lol

[celicaST]

talked to the guy today and he said he wont part it out, wants to sell it whole for 3500 (doubt thats going to happen considering the shape its in). sucks because i wanted the bumper and 2 post wing also . im sure someone here will hook you up with a firewall though.

[dustin15brown]

Romas, don't worry about it. Manny and I have discussed it and we will ship the firewall. Done.

are you just going to send him one out of ur parts celi and ship it and all that on goodwill? If so, I commend you, that is amazing. Granted we do not get along well at all together, but that would be simply amazing and make me have the utmost respect for you.

[Batman722]

Thank you Dustin

The date is set. I believe Sunday morning we are going to cut the firewall out. I will be sending it to Romas but he is going to pay the shipping and probably pay for a few new Sawzall blades

This what the car looks like now...



in a few days, it will be chopped into pieces

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jan 26, 2006 - 11:35 PM

[dustin15brown]

wow man thats awesome

[TheStreetzKing]

good luck i got a list and a half when the guy was telling me what he had to remove.. also dont forget gas lines he said lol

[playr158]

dustin if you can i would look for tack welds and buy a set of nice bits and drill it out...thats just wat i've learned from working on mine....the celica is like 99% tack welds btw and once you drill it out pieces come out very easily.......

[doGGy]

dustin if you can i would look for tack welds and buy a set of nice bits and drill it out...thats just wat i've learned from working on mine....the celica is like 99% tack welds btw and once you drill it out pieces come out very easily.......

Daniel, this job needs to be done profesionaly, whats why i asked Dustin to cut a little bit more out of the weld, just what the guys at the shop here could undrill the firewall them self..

Dustin: YOU DA MAN!

Guys, just be carefull, overlook all the places where it is connected, cuz even today and local junkyeard i examinated the UK junked celi, and it seems like the firewall is sealed everythere with the silicone, and in some places it will be hard as hell to disconect it...

HUGE thanks. As about shipping - dont hurry - cuz i have to figure out the cheapest ways as posible...

[doGGy]

I will be sending it to Romas but he is going to pay the shipping and probably pay for a few new Sawzall blades

I will be more then glad to pay

[Hanyo]

i would like to see pictures of the firewall getting cut out. It would be enterianing to see.

Thank you Dustin

The date is set. I believe Sunday morning we are going to cut the firewall out. I will be sending it to Romas but he is going to pay the shipping and probably pay for a few new Sawzall blades

This what the car looks like now...



in a few days, it will be chopped into pieces

[snadman]

i have my 95 that is just sitting. offer me a price and tell me how to ship it and its yours

[GMoney]

i found a celi that just got wreck couple weeks ago ......i am goin to check him out today for you

[presure2]

guys, this is taken care of,
dustin and i will be @ my house in a bit chopping the car up, and getting it ready to ship off to romas.
dustinbrown:
its just how we do here on the EC

[97lestyousay]

Werd Manny.
Post some pics.

[GMoney]

aiight kool man yeah post up some pics let me see the destruction

[Batman722]

pics ? we've got pics

We didn't really think to get too many pics, we were more concerned with cuttin this mutha up.

A lot of interior was already removed so it was pretty easy to get to what we wanted. Started like this



First we removed the heater core, streering column, main crash support bar, and some other interior goodies to make it look like this



shot from the rear



then step 2, cut



front removed



Manny with the Tweak pose



step 3 cut more



end result







I forgot to take a pic of the actual firewall, I will get one tomorrow and post it up.

When JDM guy yo is on the job, the job gets done. That's how we do it on the EC

[Defgeph]

Thats awesome. Thats what this site is all about, helping other members.

Good work guys

[97lestyousay]

SWEET, that is what this site is about.
I wish I was there.

[JoKeRkId613]

OMG! I looked everywhere for that! dustin, how much for that windshield?!?!? I'll give you $200 shipped. lmao. jk. awesome work guys.

[presure2]

dude, was that FUN or what??? =)

[doGGy]

Whats all i could say right now...

Thank you Manny and Dustin - you are now in my Special people list

[presure2]

haha doggy...NP man.
we'll get a couple solid pics of it, and you can show us what else we can trim down to save on shipping costs.

[Batman722]

Whats all i could say right now...

Thank you Manny and Dustin - you are now in my Special people list

Just tell us where to trim

[celicaST]

i dont think ive ever seen a bare firewall like that. you two are awesome, much respect for stepping up and getting it done.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

i dont think ive ever seen a bare firewall like that. you two are awesome, much respect for stepping up and getting it done.

yap true dat yo! lol

bboy

[dustin15brown]

about how much does that badboy weigh?

[Sr_Ric]

"oh noes you've cut it wrong!!"

lol

This post has been edited by Sr_Ric: Feb 7, 2006 - 8:46 AM

[BacerTune]

Hey doGGy, you can cut it to a smaller piece, here's a pic of it



you also need all the blue circled parts



That are the parts only for the firewall, but don't forget you'll need a lot more if you go from RHD to LHD!!!
I got my clip without engine for 500 euro from: Deijne

I even went back to get some parts witch I forgot.
Here is my Rebuild:

Rebuild ST205 WRC

If you need more pic of thing you need or a list of what's different just email me!!

[presure2]

bach-
nice pics. thats exactly what we're basicly planning to do, we're just waiting on the dogmister to forward us back some pics with what exactly he wants cut off.

[OrbitalGT95]

I jus wanna throw this out cause im kinda confused about it...I know some kid who did a rhd conversion in his silvia..(went from left to right hand), and he didn't have to use a rhd fire wall. from what i can remember he jus cut holes where they needed to be cut in his ldh firewall and transplated parts...do you guys understand what im trying to say?, well if you do..why couldn't doggy jus do this...it seems alot easier and from a safty stand point, the structural integrity of the car is deffenetly not what it use to be. so if you could please clear up this confusion i would be thankful
-Jack

[presure2]

actually jack, with the way we cut it out, and the way doggy is having it welded in, it will be just as strong as OEM.
and, id imagine, doggy wants it to LOOK stock.
and this way, it will.

[OrbitalGT95]

actually jack, with the way we cut it out, and the way doggy is having it welded in, it will be just as strong as OEM.
and, id imagine, doggy wants it to LOOK stock.
and this way, it will.

thanks for the insight manny

[doGGy]

Exactly what Manny said and not only this - on Subarus, Nissans and few other cars Firewall is "universal" basicly there are holes for both LHD and RHD side, only thing what one side is Closed, so all you need is to Pop up the holes out and you set.... And Toyota did it "wrong" way for us Conversion people )

BacerTune

Damn man you saved me Now i will know exactly where and how to make everything Thanks ALOT

Manny & Dustin - tonight i will send pics with all the areas marked where the cut needs to be done Thanks THanks AND THANKS

actually jack, with the way we cut it out, and the way doggy is having it welded in, it will be just as strong as OEM.
and, id imagine, doggy wants it to LOOK stock.
and this way, it will.

[doGGy]

And BaseTuner - could you post more pics of your firewall cutted out? And did you Cut out your front window while replaceing firewall??

What about the Top part of the firewall? It does have the different opening for the Heater core (different side) what did you do abou tthis? What about Wipers? Top piece what Wipers goes in?

This post has been edited by doGGy: Feb 7, 2006 - 1:43 PM

[BacerTune]

I didn't remove my front window, but be careful while welding, put something in front of it. I did not remove it because I didn’t replace the hole window wiper bucket. It to must work and there’re coming sometimes more then 4 layer of metal together. Here are some pics of what I picked up.






also needed: wiper arms, engine and everything off it, control pedals,ect
even your chair, don't forget, you can use your old chair pilow (got draws)



here some of the remove







everything you see you'll need!! ecept the rear part for the hand break, I left it on the right side. Same as my mr2.

wiring , better cut it behind the chairs less work than inside the dash



I'm gone for few hours, but if you need more pic, Ill post it later for you. I also got every oem books for the celica so If you need diagrams or pic of that just name it!!

greetz

[doGGy]

Thanks man.

Only thing what is not compleatly sure for me now - is this part, i made pic, and drawed areas what i dont understand how you did it... If you can explain this would be great.

Another thing - wiring behind CHAIRS??? hmm you mean Engine Wiring or what?

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[BacerTune]

no thanx, this way it's easer to start for me it was sometimes a big puzzle.

I know what you mean, it’s the inlet for the fan from the climate system. The boll shape is the same on each side. So I closed the right side with the peace from the LHD car and cut a hole with a example from the inlet of fan I made of the LHD car. It save you a lot of troubel than replacing the whole thing.



So you need the inside part that makes sure no water comes in. The one on the left side you'll take out, its welt on 2 place an some glue around. The big blue part I put in is some kind of anti vibration part.You'll need it. It's clued and fit perfect in your RHD car.

Than the other side





So the wiper engine goes from left to right. It's different so you need it from the LHD car, with the wiper arms and the arm inside. also the plastic hood for it.
From the LHD car you need the inside piece that makes the wall stronger to mount the wiper engine. You can also use this part as an example for cuting a the holes. The right side you close by welding.

With the arm in side you can drill the other holes for mounting en flip the to in the middel. On the right side there's also a piece inside that makes the mounting place stronger. so you'll need the from the LHD car.
Finaly you close the hole on the left and cut a hole on the right see photo.

the wire thing:



It's the wire behind the chairs or at the B-style. This connects the rear with the fusebox on the left side in the LHD car. So you have to make about +/- 20 wires a bit longer.

I used the all the RHD wires and inside parts of the fusebox. In the dash you take the RHD wire and let it make the way of the LHD wire.
looks like this at the end:



The big engine wire that comes strait of the engine goes later trough the firewall on the right side. I did it this way because it saves on the cutting of the wires.

[doGGy]

Ahh, now i get it Does engine wiring need to be extended too? or there is enouth of lenght?

And im gonna make Fuel door and trunk opener on motors, so what i could place 2 buttons instead of these handles

Another thing - how did you figured out the Heater problem? you just found the LHD air conditioning heater or what? cuz im still dont know what to do about this...

This post has been edited by doGGy: Feb 8, 2006 - 2:09 AM

[doGGy]

Dustin - you'v got Mail. And hit me up on AIM once you online - need to talk

[BacerTune]

I think the engine wire is just going to make it to the middle under the dash. On the RHD cars it's going in on the left and for the LHD on the right. I have some pics for you how the wire mast go in LHD and RHD.














Good idea about to put some motors to open the trunk and fuel door. Are you also going to use a remote and door poppers to open your doors and to make the door cleaned?

In my JDM ST205, I have te full automatic climate control, see pic



I used Everything of the dash of a LHD Celica, accept wiring. So I got the 3 parts of the climate system: Fan, air-condition unit and middle unit witch controls the air flow.

The fan of the LHD car I left original, is good as it is and no difference.

The air-condition unit I made open and replace everything of the wiring and radiator of the JDM unit. Because the JDM had some censors and wiring. But if you do not have the same control unit it is already good. Because this one works with electronic and the other one manual.

The middle unit I switched the to servo’s from the JDM to the LHD, you have to make one servo extension own custom made. It’s the one that moves the big valve to let outer air in (no problem for you I think )

So yes you need the complete system of an LHD car and it has to have air co other wise you missing one unit. And it’s not possible to make the RHD one work because it’s totally mirrored.

I gonna search for some drawns in my oem books and post them than for you!

[recycle]

there is a mistake here.... the gear shifter bend should face the opposite site of the steering wheel...

[BacerTune]

true, but it isn't a problem for shifting and because I let the handbreak stay on the right side!

[doGGy]

Damn BacerTuner whats a perfect info.. And yes i do have the same Climate control unit as you do...

As i dont understood ne thing - do i need to cut and make the Engine wiring longer or not? Of all i need is to re-route it ?

[BacerTune]

Yesterday I measured the engine wiring, it’s to short so yes you’ll have to make it longer!!