awd to fwd??, is it possible to do this Options

[hockeyplyr24]

im lookin to put the 3sgte engine in my car..but it does come w/an awd tranny..i was talkin to the guy at the local motorsports place around here..and he said he could convert the awd tranny to fwd bc it'd prolly be alot cheaper for me to do instead of converting the whole car to awd..what are your thoughts on this? can this really be done and should i go for it??

[dustin15brown]

wtf? Just buy a new tranny

[hockeyplyr24]

wouldnt it wind up costing more to buy the tranny when i can get the engine and tranny and everything for around 2 grand?

[eggman40]

You might wanna duck cause i smell some flames coming.

get a different tranny, but before you do anything you might wanna search

[lilsteeg]

or since you have a 5sfe now, use your stock tranny and dont drive hard

[XXX_Mina]

okay, the awd to fwd can and has been done, but you lose half the HP... so its pointless... the best thing to do is go with the mr2 turbo motor/tranny... mounting the mr2 is defenatly allot easier than awd to fwd and the mr2 tranny makes one of the strongest FWD trannies ever...

Mina

This post has been edited by XXX_Mina: Feb 15, 2006 - 8:24 PM

[hockeyplyr24]

yea idk if i'd wanna stay w/the stock tranny..im over 162,000 miles right now and thats an aweful lot of miles in my opinion..but im not quite sure..

would u really lose that much hp from converting it?

[lilsteeg]

no, not if he takes off the transfer case

[burneeed]

theres a post on it. The awd tranny is pretty much the same as the e153 mr2 turbo tranny. The only differences is the open differential in the awd version. Taking out the diff in the awd and replacing it with a diff in the mr2 turbo tranny will run you around 200 at a toyota dealership. I forget what other steps have to be made?

[Supersprynt]

okay, the awd to fwd can and has been done, but you lose half the HP... so its pointless... the best thing to do is go with the mr2 turbo motor/tranny... mounting the mr2 is defenatly allot easier than awd to fwd and the mr2 tranny makes one of the strongest FWD trannies ever...

Mina

Lurker.

[XXX_Mina]

who or what is lurker?

Mina

[Drocay]

lurker as in one who lurks, what happend to you man nice to see u back none the less.

[hockeyplyr24]

so from what i understand..it'd be pointless to change it i guess? im still not really sure what i should do..

[lilsteeg]

get a turbo mr2 tranny

[team_omega]

im lookin to put the 3sgte engine in my car..but it does come w/an awd tranny..i was talkin to the guy at the local motorsports place around here..and he said he could convert the awd tranny to fwd bc it'd prolly be alot cheaper for me to do instead of converting the whole car to awd..what are your thoughts on this? can this really be done and should i go for it??

So i guess From what u are saying is that you want to run the awd system on your 6gc? Well you better have a whole lot of money to do that. I is not easy to convert a FWD to an AWD. You will need to cut some parts off from underneath your car and you have to get some parts off the 94-99 gt4. Correct me if im wrong.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Check this out.

[yungazzdriver]

it is definately possible and has been done, better yet ima get the lsd alltrac tranny already converted to FWD and put in my celica (done in a corrolla FX-16) and is sold to me!!! but,...........no it does not lose any power what so ever and IMO is better than mr2 tranny or stock trannies but all this is true if and only if done correctly

[Kwanza26]

it is definately possible and has been done, better yet ima get the lsd alltrac tranny already converted to FWD and put in my celica (done in a corrolla FX-16) and is sold to me!!! but,...........no it does not lose any power what so ever and IMO is better than mr2 tranny or stock trannies but all this is true if and only if done correctly

Umm... the alltrac tranny is basically the same thing as the MR2 T tranny... both are E15x tranies... alltrac just has a transfer case to the rear...

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I should have clarified in my last post. That's a guide on how to turn the awd transmition to a fwd transmission.

[snapshotgt]

You might wanna duck cause i smell some flames coming.

~snap

p.s. sorry for the pointless post, just had too!

[celicast3sgte]

the half the hp theory is bull****, some of the 185 trannies have a awd/fwd switch which disables the transfercase gear and like kwanza said theyre similiar trannies with the exception of the transfer case. now it has been said this is not safe for the tranny and should be used only for diagnostics. but as i see it the only way it can fail is if you are driving and the switch mentioned slips from fwd to awd while driving could be what does the harm. if somebody would like to prove me wrong then show some facts or some live testing (i have a 185 tranny i can test if it really comes down to it) atleast something will be accomplished.

[nightryder]

stop me if this is a stupid idea, but i think if i were you I would buy the awd tranny w/ the engine, then just pull the tranny, sell it, and pick up the mr2 fwd. no?

[hockeyplyr24]

u do make a good point..but then comes more of the hassle to get one lol..i'll have to find the right mechanic around here to do the awd to fwd for me so i know its done right..good to know i wouldnt lose any power....i'll also look into the mr2 tranny..now i just have to find a good place to do this around st.louis

[Negative]

On the MR2 tranny there is also the issue of the custom rear tranny mount (the one to the rear of the car). The stock GT one does not fit and the stock MR2 one does not fit either. Saynug and I made one for his car at my shop but it took a few hours of cutting up the two stock mounts and welding certain peices back together and some custom stuff on top of that. In the end it worked great but it's not very feasible for someone who does not have the benifit of having a fab shop to go to for free shop time and labor.
The MR2 tranny is the best way to go though. Try to make sure you get the one with LSD - some don't have it ('90-'92 i believe though I could be wrong about the years). And make sure it is the Turbo one - the N/A one will be the same as your stock tranny but with the headache of the rear mount problem.

This post has been edited by Negative: Feb 16, 2006 - 5:23 PM

[yungazzdriver]

this is really wierd though has anyone done the mr2 tranny,......i have never seen pics of it at all but im not doubting but my friend said there was and issue of to where the oil sending unit was facing becuase the mr2 tranny gets it from the front to back and the all-trac tanny from back to front any issues on this??? someone should do a write up detailed with good pics......

[hockeyplyr24]

what if i just went w/the mr2 turbo engine? would this work out better?

[Kwanza26]

what if i just went w/the mr2 turbo engine? would this work out better?

just buy an MR2 turbo tranny or a Celica GT tranny... why are you making this so hard for yourself? A celica GT S54 tranny isn't more than a couple hundred... at the MOST.

[hockeyplyr24]

i know..im just wanting to be sure i get all this done right and that i make the decision..especially when i'll be puttin out the money i've been saving forever

[Kwanza26]

i know..im just wanting to be sure i get all this done right and that i make the decision..especially when i'll be puttin out the money i've been saving forever

that said... an MR2 clip is gonna require you to do more in the end than buying an alltrac clip and a tranny...

[Jdog1385]

lurker as in one who lurks, what happend to you man nice to see u back none the less.

yea, whats up with the celi mina, definitely been a while

[Negative]

On the MR2 tranny there is also the issue of the custom rear tranny mount (the one to the rear of the car). The stock GT one does not fit and the stock MR2 one does not fit either. Saynug and I made one for his car at my shop but it took a few hours of cutting up the two stock mounts and welding certain peices back together and some custom stuff on top of that. In the end it worked great but it's not very feasible for someone who does not have the benifit of having a fab shop to go to for free shop time and labor.
The MR2 tranny is the best way to go though. Try to make sure you get the one with LSD - some don't have it ('90-'92 i believe though I could be wrong about the years). And make sure it is the Turbo one - the N/A one will be the same as your stock tranny but with the headache of the rear mount problem.

this is really wierd though has anyone done the mr2 tranny,......i have never seen pics of it at all but im not doubting but my friend said there was and issue of to where the oil sending unit was facing becuase the mr2 tranny gets it from the front to back and the all-trac tanny from back to front any issues on this??? someone should do a write up detailed with good pics......

read my post above yours. Saynug and I did his. It really was no sweat for us but of curse he's a tech at a Toyota dealership and I have a machine shop where I can make just about anything custom.
It'd be a lot harder for the average person. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few other people on here that have done this.

what if i just went w/the mr2 turbo engine? would this work out better?

just buy an MR2 turbo tranny or a Celica GT tranny... why are you making this so hard for yourself? A celica GT S54 tranny isn't more than a couple hundred... at the MOST.

He already has one on the car I think. I think he just wants something better.