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post Feb 16, 2006 - 2:48 PM
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hey guys is this the rare BLACKtop 3sge

http://www.jrautoparts.com/detail_toyota_3s_lexus.htm


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 2:57 PM
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Yup
post Feb 16, 2006 - 3:36 PM
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Will that go in a celica? How easily?
post Feb 16, 2006 - 4:11 PM
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QUOTE(lumbercis @ Feb 16, 2006 - 3:36 PM) [snapback]395083[/snapback]

Will that go in a celica? How easily?


Yup. Not so easy.
post Feb 16, 2006 - 4:17 PM
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couldnt use the tranny.


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 9:46 PM
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i know that BITCH is rare as HELL TOO, iam suprised nobody has found it yet either, because most common or redtop.


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 9:50 PM
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6 speed tranny? Dunno about that working or not?


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 9:57 PM
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QUOTE(burneeed @ Feb 17, 2006 - 2:50 AM) [snapback]395248[/snapback]

6 speed tranny? Dunno about that working or not?

it's rwd... a definate NOT


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 10:17 PM
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yah i didnt even look at the tranny... but whats that from? am is?


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post Feb 16, 2006 - 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(burneeed @ Feb 16, 2006 - 10:17 PM) [snapback]395260[/snapback]

yah i didnt even look at the tranny... but whats that from? am is?


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post Feb 17, 2006 - 5:05 AM
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QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Feb 17, 2006 - 3:34 AM) [snapback]395276[/snapback]

QUOTE(burneeed @ Feb 16, 2006 - 10:17 PM) [snapback]395260[/snapback]

yah i didnt even look at the tranny... but whats that from? am is?


Altezza



Just Japanese Altezza? What about our IS?


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post Feb 17, 2006 - 5:37 AM
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QUOTE(tomazws @ Feb 17, 2006 - 5:05 AM) [snapback]395388[/snapback]

QUOTE(Boss-Celica @ Feb 17, 2006 - 3:34 AM) [snapback]395276[/snapback]

QUOTE(burneeed @ Feb 16, 2006 - 10:17 PM) [snapback]395260[/snapback]

yah i didnt even look at the tranny... but whats that from? am is?


Altezza



Just Japanese Altezza? What about our IS?


Yup. Our IS came with the 3.0L 2JZ-GE.
post Feb 17, 2006 - 8:34 AM
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I thought the us is300 came with a v6.

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post Feb 17, 2006 - 2:02 PM
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QUOTE(recneps @ Feb 17, 2006 - 8:34 AM) [snapback]395405[/snapback]

I thought the us is300 came with a v6.

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Nope, its an inline 6


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post Feb 17, 2006 - 10:09 PM
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Okay, so how do we cram one into a celica? Just change trannys?
Also, wouldn't these be more common than a redtop? How many years did they put them in the Altezza?

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post Feb 18, 2006 - 2:23 AM
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This would be a very difficult and expensiv swap. First, it will be damn near impossible to find a black top and if you do find one it will probably cost more than you paid for your celica. I don't even want to get into how hard it would be to complete the swap.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 3:19 AM
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I don't get it? They say there were only like 1000 redtops, but these are even more rare than that? How many altezzas did they put these in? They must be alot more numerous than redtops or else why would they have alot more aftermarket support?

Also, exactly why is it so hard to put one in a celica? Its still a 3sge isn't it?
post Feb 18, 2006 - 3:50 AM
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eh why would you pay the money when you can get a 3sgte for the same price and a 3sgte has tons of aftermarket supprt + has alot of potential.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 4:40 AM
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QUOTE(burneeed @ Feb 18, 2006 - 3:50 AM) [snapback]395795[/snapback]

eh why would you pay the money when you can get a 3sgte for the same price and a 3sgte has tons of aftermarket supprt + has alot of potential.


agreed.
post Feb 18, 2006 - 4:49 PM
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Cause I already own a 5th gen alltrac, and want to try something different?

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post Feb 18, 2006 - 7:08 PM
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oh sexy smile.gif
Lumbercris: are you sure their are 1000 redtop beams? I'm sure there is more than that.
they were available on SS-III celicas and they were also in MR2 I believe.
I think the 3sgte would be cheaper than the blacktop. But that will depend on what gen it is.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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there were only 1000 beams mr-2's, i think


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 8:43 PM
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They were also in the RAV 4 but the red cover was a dark grey/black.


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post Feb 19, 2006 - 6:34 PM
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QUOTE(lumbercis @ Feb 18, 2006 - 3:19 AM) [snapback]395780[/snapback]

.... How many altezzas did they put these in? They must be alot more numerous than redtops or else why would they have alot more aftermarket support?

Also, exactly why is it so hard to put one in a celica? Its still a 3sge isn't it?


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post Feb 21, 2006 - 10:00 PM
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I think like Kwanza said about the tranny, but you could probably make it fit. All that i know is that the intake manifold wont fit because itd hit the strut tower, but you could easily change that out with a red tops. Then, the other problem is the cam gears, i think thers not much clearnce between that, itd be so tight there wouldnt be room for chassis flex. Im not sure, just what ive been reading up on. Not that im interested though.

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