Dodge Neon SRT-4 VS Celica GT NON-TURBO, CHECK IT OUT Options

[yamir1985]

when the green light shows we both start racing u can see a lil difference when he on first shift start passing my car slowly when i changed to 2nd shift the guy PSSSSSS on 2nd shift he won the race he was like 7-10 cars away from me, im so desapointed lol i knew he was gonna win but not that fast :S i realize my car goes to 100 MPH normaly a lil fast when i'm racing but DEFINATELY too SLOW after 100 MPH UP i'm planning to do an swap got $1790.00 cash. where i can find a good 3sgte to buy it, is a 2nd gen 3sgte good for a celica GT year 99 or definately a 3rd gen 3sgte for it ? where can i find it please >? i see ebay hardly sell those only 2nd gen ones. any advise

cars who actually beat my celica, some of them are:
new civic 2006 manual tranny
accords manual tranny
mustangs v6 & up manual tranny
maxima 2000 & up manual n auto tranny
rx7s
and some more.

[Supersprynt]

I cant believe that SRT4 beat you, who would have thought a 240hp 3000lb car would rape the crap outta you?

Search the forum.

Edit: I gotta laugh at the cars that "actually beat my celica." I giggle @ you. Why are you racing cars that are absolutely positively out of your range? Start with Geo Metro's and Ford Festiva's and perhaps it'll boost your confidence.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 6, 2006 - 3:07 PM

[yamir1985]

dont trust me huh ? i wish i could take a video of the race but two hands were busy one on the steering wheel the other one on the shifter:( but yea too much power on the srt-4 and the guy just bought the car no add-ons on it.

[Supersprynt]

What do you mean dont trust you? You didnt say anything outrageous. I believe you lost, and my first comment was sarcastic (thought I layed it on pretty thick.)

What would you put on the forum: Hey guys check out how badly I lost to a car thats stupidly out of my league!

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 6, 2006 - 3:20 PM

[playr158]

#1 wrong section (well moved now)
#2 you don't have enough money
#3 search function
#4 that list is MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH bigger

read some of the FAQs all the 3sgte swap information you need is there

i love reading the "i just lost a race i got 2 pennies and i need a swap" threads

[lagos]

i beat an srt4 before

[TheStreetzKing]

i beat a civic.. and lost to a 320hp eclipse gsx ..

thread is pointless, stop racing outta ur league, in fact stop racing

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Wow, I can't believe you guys. What has this site come too? Everyone is acting like a bunch of jerks. Are we getting that high in numbers that we're going to start acting like the Honda guys? For the record, I love Hondas, just not their forums. It disgusts me. It's been all over, but this thread is one of the worst.

[yungazzdriver]

well actually let me tell some guys here that with 1700 you can put a 3sgte in that celica GT (notice the gt)
engine ,...........can be found for 1200 in my area
harness conversion,..............300 tweak style
forget powersteering and ac, i can live withought them i believe anyone can
get a used starion intercooler and buy piping and bam your done

[Supersprynt]

Yeah its that easy too.

[boosted_K2]

well actually let me tell some guys here that with 1700 you can put a 3sgte in that celica GT (notice the gt)
engine ,...........can be found for 1200 in my area
harness conversion,..............300 tweak style
forget powersteering and ac, i can live withought them i believe anyone can
get a used starion intercooler and buy piping and bam your done

and thats also the exact sound your $1,200 3sgte motor makes when you run it for a few thousand miles...


BAM!!!!!!!

[Blakout16]

lol, to be honest keep with cars like tegs, civics, crx's... nothing like a srt-4, 350z, v6 stang (and up), and some other higher hp cars cuz u'll just get blown away. im not saying u'll win against the tegs, civics or crx's but it'll be alot closer ... i mean u might as well put ur car in reverse against the higher class.

This post has been edited by defgeph: Mar 8, 2006 - 11:03 AM

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Haha....This thread made me laugh. Theres definately a sharp difference in responses between those who 'have' and 'have not' when a topic like this comes up.

BTW, just for reference a clip costs about $1700-2000+ so unless you cut corners or get an amazing deal or don't plan on using a good motor, you shouldn't count on having a good swap for that little money.

[yungazzdriver]

hahahaha i know alot about swaps and uhm forget the clip f-it if anyone is round the MD area hit me up and ill show yall a real 3sgte swap!!! but it isnt a celica and he will hit 10 secs soon and the swap cost him around 2 grand and well let me tell you guys he has a haltec ecu system

[Jen]

People come to this website because supposedly everyone here is nice and supportive.. and not like the assh-les on other forums that turn almost every thread into a flame thread. Obviously.. we're proving them wrong.

Just because some of us don't know as much as those who have done swaps, and whatever else.. doesn't make you better than anyone else on this site. It used to feel like a family here.. now it is turned into almost every other car forum.

Flame me if you must.. it's just my input.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

People come to this website because supposedly everyone here is nice and supportive.. and not like the assh-les on other forums that turn almost every thread into a flame thread. Obviously.. we're proving them wrong.

Just because some of us don't know as much as those who have done swaps, and whatever else.. doesn't make you better than anyone else on this site. It used to feel like a family here.. now it is turned into almost every other car forum.

Flame me if you must.. it's just my input.

I'm backing you up 100%. Some of the flamers are just doing it to try and look like they know what they're talking about. I think it's time to bring back some first posts of people. Everyone, please remember were you were at at 16 years of age with your first car.

[BLACKcelicaGT]

i dont think a v6 stang is all that out of a gt's league my friend has one and when we first got our licenses we use to race all the time and i would get him off the start and he wouldnt pass me again until around 70 or 80 his car is auto but on a 1/8 mile track that would be a real close finnish

[yamir1985]

now anymore i dont feel good posting something here, just 2 -3 guys supporting out of the crowd

[Defgeph]

Dont let other people's attitudes discourage you. Most of the members here are not fans of street racing. If you looking to do an engine swap I would recommend you research. Take a few months read everything you can, save up some money. By the time you have 4 to 5 grand saved up, you'll be ready to do the swap with money to spare.

[pure_dx]

we're telling you the truth kidd, if you guys havn't figured it out yet, celicas are slow unless major modding and major money $$ was spent on it, the guys above me are right, stop racing cars out of your league before you blow up your motor or mess something up

This post has been edited by defgeph: Mar 9, 2006 - 12:41 AM

[DG_Performance]

I used to race faster cars all the time....then i swapped in a 3s and now it seems like i am racing alot of slower cars lately
DG

[tomazws]

I raced a Tercel, and it surely did boosted my ego

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

now anymore i dont feel good posting something here, just 2 -3 guys supporting out of the crowd

I worry about a lot of people getting turned away. Please stay. There are nice members who will be willing to help you.

we're telling you the truth kidd, if you guys havn't figured it out yet, celicas are slow unless major modding and major money $$ was spent on it, the guys above me are right, stop racing cars out of your league before you blow up your motor or mess something up

Be careful what you say please. Not only did you swear, which wasn't nessisary, you made yourself look unintelligent with your comments. The Celica is a slow car without moddification. Heck, it's not too fast with them. But I could race F1 cars every day without "blowing my motor or messing something up." I would lose every time. Major money doesn't need to be spent unless you want a drag car. Look at my car, I don't have much, but it's still fun and quick. With the investment of some sway bars (Soon to come), and some lowering springs and shocks, I'll have a nice car for the track. I haven't spent to much either. But if you are going to do the swap, like defgeph said, it's best to have around $5k just in case. I'm sure everything will work out fine.

[anubis0108]

yea bud we dont want to discourage ya from talking on the frums. its just some people will easily diss you when they dont think youre doing something sensible (racing cars out of your league) heh you deserved to get burned a lil bit for that. but overall were all good guys on here. I havent posted on the forums much, but everyday im on here reading and reading. I don htink youre ready for a 3s swap yet, ive been researching for 6months and saving for the same amount. I kno thatz a long time but theres prob nothing you cant tell me that i havent learned form these fourms over that time. ya man but everyone is right $ 1700 is going to be very hard to pull off a swap. Most 3s'(2nd gens) cost around 1,800 to 2,000. even on top of that youre going need money for extra knick nacks that you never planned to buy then past that labor?(def not cheap) unless you can do it yourself. Tranny? Tune up? Timing belt? Wiring harness?
im sure im missing a billion other things but best thing you should do is search the fourms first then ask some of the guys whohave done the swap presonally any questions you might have. but save ya cash too cause 2k its just gonna make ya have a bad day when you find out a part was broken and you need more money to fix it. Keep ya head up man save up and wish you the best of luck on gettin it done someday.
Lee

[anubis0108]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 hey read this forum this should help you out a lot in your research turst me, familarize yourself with it "real good" that should help you out a lot in your research. also it would help if ya read some of the other forums from guys who wrote up list on how they did their swap. happy hunting man

[pure_dx]

we're telling you the truth kidd, if you guys havn't figured it out yet, celicas are slow unless major modding and major money $$ was spent on it, the guys above me are right, stop racing cars out of your league before you blow up your motor or mess something up

Be careful what you say please. Not only did you swear, which wasn't nessisary, you made yourself look unintelligent with your comments. The Celica is a slow car without moddification. Heck, it's not too fast with them. But I could race F1 cars every day without "blowing my motor or messing something up." I would lose every time. Major money doesn't need to be spent unless you want a drag car. Look at my car, I don't have much, but it's still fun and quick. With the investment of some sway bars (Soon to come), and some lowering springs and shocks, I'll have a nice car for the track. I haven't spent to much either. But if you are going to do the swap, like defgeph said, it's best to have around $5k just in case. I'm sure everything will work out fine.

im sure your car handles very well, but it's just not fast on the 1320 AKA a straight line (where most street races occur and ironically enough where this thread originated from) if nothing major was done it. Read my post again, i said "major modding and major money", major was the key word there (forced induction, engine swap, cams, etc etc) sure, do the typical I/H/E on the 5sfe and 7afe, it still wouldn't stand a chance against an srt4. Sorry if i offended anyone, but im telling the guy to be more smart out there and try racing someone closer to your league, unless you're looking for a new engine, or feel like wasting gas ($2.50 per gallon where I live)

This post has been edited by defgeph: Mar 9, 2006 - 12:42 AM

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

^^Once I get my sway bars on, and my springs and shocks, I'll take on a srt-4 on the road course. Or any 3sgte for that matter. It's not all about hp unless it's a drag. Most street races are drag races, but with the Celica, you have to consider other types of racing. I do love a high hp car, but it's really not going to help too much unless you get to some big strates.

[slipgun]

^^Once I get my sway bars on, and my springs and shocks, I'll take on a srt-4 on the road course. Or any 3sgte for that matter. It's not all about hp unless it's a drag. Most street races are drag races, but with the Celica, you have to consider other types of racing. I do love a high hp car, but it's really not going to help too much unless you get to some big strates.

Man I wish that was true but you're delusional, I don't care what you have handling wise if you have a 3 second lead on an srt-4 at the end of the course and he gets a small strait away your dead. I'm sure you're going to come back "You don't know how to drive" blah blah but seriously, you just don't stand a chance. Additionally the previous poster Pure_DX did not make himself look unintelligent but every post I have seen you make recently has done just that, I don't post often but I am honestly getting tired of your dreams you insist upon explaining every topic I have read you post in, your car is slow! ACCEPT IT OR SWAP IT!

Additionally "But I could race F1 cars every day without "blowing my motor or messing something up."" That’s not true, every race mile is equal to something like 100 or so miles on your engine, so if you race an f1 every day you would probably either blow something up, or mess something up, your car doesn’t like strain. Stop giving it to it.

That being said we are missing the family atmosphere we used to have, but frankly the lectures don't help, no one needs a dad in this family unless its an admin. Just be ready to learn, stupid questions should not and will not be insulted, its only comments that really arouse the crowd.


This post has been edited by slipgun: Mar 9, 2006 - 2:13 AM

[Supersprynt]

^^Once I get my sway bars on, and my springs and shocks, I'll take on a srt-4 on the road course. Or any 3sgte for that matter. It's not all about hp unless it's a drag. Most street races are drag races, but with the Celica, you have to consider other types of racing. I do love a high hp car, but it's really not going to help too much unless you get to some big strates.

Have you ever seen/been in/driven a 3sgte celica, or been in/driven an SRT4? Its like night day, and the extra skidpad you may receive from the sway bars isnt going to make up for the 100hp difference which will just totally annhialate you.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 9, 2006 - 12:15 PM

[yarik83]

Ok fine since we are on a subject I beat a lamborghini cause I was flying over in in a 747 boing, I beat a mustang.. on foot yes on foot.. he was stuck in traffic and yes I had the pleasure of beating integra once because he raced off the traffic light got pulled over before reaching the second and i merely beat him by 30 or so cars doing the speedlimit. In all realism racign a car outside your hp range and outside your class is useless...
A stock celica gt will never beat srt4 because its almost 1/2 hp of the dodge. Secondly he can beat you on and off road because of his car build, even when stock. Lastly I have to apologize for all of us bashing you but we just convey the truth.. some of us are being polite about it.. some are not so polite

[playr158]

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This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:43 PM

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

^^Once I get my sway bars on, and my springs and shocks, I'll take on a srt-4 on the road course. Or any 3sgte for that matter. It's not all about hp unless it's a drag. Most street races are drag races, but with the Celica, you have to consider other types of racing. I do love a high hp car, but it's really not going to help too much unless you get to some big strates.

Man I wish that was true but you're delusional, I don't care what you have handling wise if you have a 3 second lead on an srt-4 at the end of the course and he gets a small strait away your dead. I'm sure you're going to come back "You don't know how to drive" blah blah but seriously, you just don't stand a chance. Additionally the previous poster Pure_DX did not make himself look unintelligent but every post I have seen you make recently has done just that, I don't post often but I am honestly getting tired of your dreams you insist upon explaining every topic I have read you post in, your car is slow! ACCEPT IT OR SWAP IT!

Additionally "But I could race F1 cars every day without "blowing my motor or messing something up."" That’s not true, every race mile is equal to something like 100 or so miles on your engine, so if you race an f1 every day you would probably either blow something up, or mess something up, your car doesn’t like strain. Stop giving it to it.

That being said we are missing the family atmosphere we used to have, but frankly the lectures don't help, no one needs a dad in this family unless its an admin. Just be ready to learn, stupid questions should not and will not be insulted, its only comments that really arouse the crowd.

I'm just trying to say that hp doesn't matter too much on a tight track. You can't agrue with that. But you are right, if a swapped Celica had enough of a strate, I wouldn't have much of a chance. And by your logic, the racing an F1 car thing, even if I does put 100miles on the car per race, my econo motor should handle the high milage better than a turbo motor. I know my car is slow. That's an unargueable fact. I just would like people to take these cars as they are. You can still have fun with them and make them handle nice. No need to be depressing about it.

As far as the family atmosphere going away and me lecturing, I'm just trying to do my part. Just because I'm not a modderater doesn't mean I don't have the right to say something. Modderaters have pm'd me and thanked me for doing what I have before. It's not like I'm doing anything that is anti productive. If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll stop. You're the first person to say something negative about my attempts to bring this site back to the point it was.

[Supersprynt]

I prefer accurate knowledge rather than nice people tbh.

[playr158]

your still wrong bulldog
you celica will never ever ever have a chance no matter wat kinda track against a 3sgte celica

local fastest car in autox is a BOOSTED s2k

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

your still wrong bulldog
you celica will never ever ever have a chance no matter wat kinda track against a 3sgte celica

local fastest car in autox is a BOOSTED s2k

Even on a solo track I wouldn't have a chance? I know my car isn't fast at all. A lot of autoX tracks have big strates, in which case I would not hold a chance against a boosted Celica. Who was it saying awhile back that they had a 3sgte mr2, and their friend had a 5sfe mr2, and it was hard to the 3sgte to loose the 5sfe on the streets? Again I'll say, I don't think my car is fast, but there's more too it than strate up hp. Otherwise, you might as well get a muscle car.

I prefer accurate knowledge rather than nice people tbh.

I nice person will always try to help, if they know or not. This leads to searching for more information and working together. Which is the whole point of the website. Acturate info is great, but if people continue to be mean with one another and drive people off, we lose researchers. Everyone driven off is a potential knowledgable person. There has to be some smart people drove out of here, and they probably could have given us all some accurate info. Even some of the younger ones who don't know anything have the desire to try, and should be given a chance. Remember a while back when someone met a Celica owner and invited them to the site and the person said something like, "Oh, 6gc, one of those F'ers." Person obviously had a bad experiance here. I really don't want to be associated with a site that's thought to be mean/stuck up. I loved this place when I was a community, and I just want it to be like that again. It's funny, all the bashing on the Honda people and Honda forums, and that exactly what some people want to be like.
^Stupid lecture

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Mar 9, 2006 - 3:45 PM

[jdg371]

your still wrong bulldog
you celica will never ever ever have a chance no matter wat kinda track against a 3sgte celica

local fastest car in autox is a BOOSTED s2k

Theres a AutoX guy in my area that use to race his 88? Tercel HB.. he told me he was probably pushing 100whp in his 3EE, He use to beat 911s and S2Ks

I also saw a MKI.5 catch up on a Talon? (the AWD ones) in a road course. they had a 10sec difference at start
^
that part isnt really relevant since the MKI is swapped

[scothaniel]

Sorry, just had to do it.....

[bloodrain]

your still wrong bulldog
you celica will never ever ever have a chance no matter wat kinda track against a 3sgte celica

local fastest car in autox is a BOOSTED s2k

Theres a AutoX guy in my area that use to race his 88? Tercel HB.. he told me he was probably pushing 100whp in his 3EE, He use to beat 911s and S2Ks

I also saw a MKI.5 catch up on a Talon? (the AWD ones) in a road course. they had a 10sec difference at start
^
that part isnt really relevant since the MKI is swapped

sorry but i call bs. The ONLY way the Tercel with 100 whp could catch a 911, which depending on the year, comes with about 260 hp and is MADE for cornering. Unless the Porsche blew an engine or a nuclear missile hit his car, there is no way the tercel could catch up.

[anubis0108]

your still wrong bulldog
you celica will never ever ever have a chance no matter wat kinda track against a 3sgte celica

local fastest car in autox is a BOOSTED s2k

Theres a AutoX guy in my area that use to race his 88? Tercel HB.. he told me he was probably pushing 100whp in his 3EE, He use to beat 911s and S2Ks

I also saw a MKI.5 catch up on a Talon? (the AWD ones) in a road course. they had a 10sec difference at start
^
that part isnt really relevant since the MKI is swapped

sorry but i call bs. The ONLY way the Tercel with 100 whp could catch a 911, which depending on the year, comes with about 260 hp and is MADE for cornering. Unless the Porsche blew an engine or a nuclear missile hit his car, there is no way the tercel could catch up.

hey man i saw that race for real a nuclear missle hit it sent the 911 flying across the track. noone knew where it came from it just hit the car out of nowere. the crowd was all stunned hell i was too but lol that lil tercel was still puttin along and a few minutes later it crossed the finish. he was all happy that he won but everyone else was in shock. Im still in shocked to this day that the tercel beat the 911 wow what an event. ROFL i mean a tercel actually beat a 911. (wha were they doing racig against each other anyway?) damn terrorist alwayz blwoin stuff up witht their missles. wish i had a missle id blow one of their camels or two ROFL. just playin guys hope no one takes offense to this just makin comedy cuase this forum is getting a little too heated.

[bloodrain]

i still dont see how a 100 whp tercel beat a a 911 :-/ unless the 911 driver SUCKED A$$ BADLY