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post Mar 13, 2006 - 10:25 PM
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Just wondering, but why is it that such a nice car and promising platform as the 6GC is that the aftermarket seems to completely deny it's existence. I mean you search anywhere and there's a gap in parts availability from 1994 to 1999. Anyone care to offer some insight?


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post Mar 13, 2006 - 10:28 PM
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as much as it sucks its a good thing, u dont see chrome tail lights running around as much, i rarely see a 6gc on the road to, and i never ran into one hooked up cept for rims and exhaust.. so i guess its cause there arent that many, also i have only seen 1 other 6gc in like 50 shows..


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:14 AM
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To be honest. I dont mind it either. Our cars speak for themselves without a massive aftermarket. If we had it then we would be no different and wouldnt turn heads.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:25 AM
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Because the 6GC isn't much of a promising platform.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:26 AM
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because they want you to have an st205.
post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(TheStreetzKing @ Mar 13, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]407221[/snapback]

as much as it sucks its a good thing, u dont see chrome tail lights running around as much, i rarely see a 6gc on the road to, and i never ran into one hooked up cept for rims and exhaust.. so i guess its cause there arent that many, also i have only seen 1 other 6gc in like 50 shows..


i think it is a very good thing. around where i am i VERY rarely see another 6gc, and while the stock ones look good, when you see a done up one, it definatly stands out for itself, im so tired of seeing 7g's with there all the same aftermarket tails and big spoilers.

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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:54 AM
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i bet back in the 90's there was plenty of aftermarket support for the 6gc... but now that its a new year and a new generation the support has died and product lines have been discontinued to keep up with the new stuff
post Mar 14, 2006 - 1:08 AM
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i don't mind too much either. i like that our cars are more on the rare side. its crazy how many hondas and acuras and what-not i see everyday.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 2:36 AM
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QUOTE(dlx742 @ Mar 14, 2006 - 4:54 PM) [snapback]407283[/snapback]

i bet back in the 90's there was plenty of aftermarket support for the 6gc... but now that its a new year and a new generation the support has died and product lines have been discontinued to keep up with the new stuff


I agree with this concept.
Maybe the some of the aftermarket stuff werent selling so well so they
stopped it. Like the RIPP supercharger kit for the 5sfe.
But what other aftermarket stuff are you looking for.
I've found that it might be hard to source stuff, but they are there.
The parts database we have, cover most if not all the parts we could ever want.
If it doesnt we could always improvise like some members here wink.gif


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 11:35 AM
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The only thing i don't like is that practically no one makes clear turns for the 94-95 bumper, that said, that bumper style was only made two years, so that is why it is not produced by procarparts etc...

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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:01 PM
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celicas are the macintosh of the car world.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:03 PM
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Yeah, I like not having our cars done like the hondas and acuras, but still, you wish to see one a little more often.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:11 PM
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Well, I figured at the least we'd have a slew of brake and suspension options out there, but there's really not a lot. It's a shame too. Had Toyota offered these cars with some power from the factory (thing 3S-GTE) in the states the aftermarket would probably be HUGE still.


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 12:53 PM
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there is A LOT of suspension out there

H&R, intrax, ground control, TEIN, and like 30 others
minimum of 4 different strut types
all types of rotors even wavy ones...big breaks are there too

you just gotta look smile.gif
post Mar 14, 2006 - 1:07 PM
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QUOTE(bloodrain @ Mar 14, 2006 - 12:01 PM) [snapback]407421[/snapback]

celicas are the macintosh of the car world.

Id say Linux since its very reliable lol


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 2:44 PM
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there just wasnt a demand for such aftermarket support. toyota dosent really want aftermarket support and people werent really into it as much as they are now... i see a celica at LEAST twice EVERY DAY. weve got great cars but nobody really hooks them up because toyota dosent have much foresight and made a lame attempt with scion... kindasad.gif


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 3:11 PM
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Macs are Linux (now) !

There were a bit more suspension and exhaust components available in the past, but as said earlier, the Celica was not meant to be a performance car. It was designed to have great handling and be ultra reliable. Just look at the Supra and MR2 - both cars have far more aftermarket support because they are sports cars. Even the All-Trac wasn't meant to be a sports car - Toyota didn't even bother to give it a BOV.

The other factor is price. The 6GC Celica's were over $20K new. My All-Trac cost almost twice as much as a Civic and about $3k more then a 5.0 Mustang convertable. Those that could afford the car and could afford to modify it would just buy a Supra.

Toyota also engineered the 5S motor for a good balance of performance and reliability - there aren't too many 'legal' modifications you can do to really increase power and maintain driveability. Whereas Honda's are generally able to get decent power increases due to the factory level of detuning. Just the amount of dampers to quite the Honda motors is pretty amazing. When I worked at AP, Honda was the only company to complain about the loudness of the squeek the clutch actuator makes when being depressed (rubber moving against plastic - its going to squeek). The engine noise from every other manufacture made the squeek inaudible, but not the Hondas!


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 3:32 PM
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I'd like to see better choices of anti-sway bars..theres whiteline I think..and ???


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 4:42 PM
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suspension techniques is where its at for sways smile.gif
post Mar 14, 2006 - 5:09 PM
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Options, options, options.....

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/catal...hp?category=121


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post Mar 14, 2006 - 5:38 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 14, 2006 - 4:42 PM) [snapback]407568[/snapback]

suspension techniques is where its at for sways smile.gif


You hit the nail on the head there.


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after market support is there and parts are available only problem is that 6gc owners are just plain cheap. i hate to say it but its true. turbo kits/super chargers , fully adjustable coilovers and after market parts are out there only problem is they cost more then average.

for example theres a performance mod out there or about to be made and the community is quick to say "oh it cost to much i would rather (insert part here) instead of (insert part here)"

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post Mar 14, 2006 - 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(RedSunCelica @ Mar 14, 2006 - 5:48 PM) [snapback]407598[/snapback]

after market support is there and parts are available only problem is that 6gc owners are just plain cheap. i hate to say it but its true. turbo kits/super chargers , fully adjustable coilovers and after market parts are out there only problem is they cost more then average.

for example theres a performance mod out there or about to be made and the community is quick to say "oh it cost to much i would rather (insert part here) instead of (insert part here)"



well i guess you MUST have a MONEY TREE in your backyard! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
post Mar 15, 2006 - 3:40 PM
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QUOTE(easternpiro1 @ Mar 14, 2006 - 7:16 PM) [snapback]407730[/snapback]

QUOTE(RedSunCelica @ Mar 14, 2006 - 5:48 PM) [snapback]407598[/snapback]

after market support is there and parts are available only problem is that 6gc owners are just plain cheap. i hate to say it but its true. turbo kits/super chargers , fully adjustable coilovers and after market parts are out there only problem is they cost more then average.

for example theres a performance mod out there or about to be made and the community is quick to say "oh it cost to much i would rather (insert part here) instead of (insert part here)"



well i guess you MUST have a MONEY TREE in your backyard! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif



not no money tree, but if you want to play with the big boys get ready to pay.
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QUOTE(RedSunCelica @ Mar 15, 2006 - 3:40 PM) [snapback]408035[/snapback]

...if you want to play with the big boys get ready to pay.


QUOTE(Fastbird @ Mar 14, 2006 - 5:38 PM) [snapback]407591[/snapback]

You hit the nail on the head there.


post Mar 15, 2006 - 4:30 PM
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I can understand that if you want to play with the "big boys" BUT there is a difference in being CHEAP as stated, and items desired being EXPENSIVE. because somecant afford them dosent mean that theyre cheapskate, its just that the items sought after are EXPENSIVE. biggrin.gif normally i would be offended being called cheap, but its a forum and i respect all opinions and besides... i like u guys!

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post Mar 15, 2006 - 5:05 PM
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you are cheap just admitit lol wink.gif

you pay for wat you get.....if you want cheap...apc is more then there for you

but the 6gc world is normally comprised of pretty quality pieces IE: Jspeed, C-one, Varis, Tein, Koni, Suspension Techniques, so i'm pretty greatful we're a small under marketed group

are pieces are nice, quality and do a good job at upgrading what we need

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Everyone on this forum bought their celicas for a certain reason, everyones reason is different.

When you buy a car you deal with the parts and stuff that you can get for it. There maybe cars with other cars with lots of parts for them and at half the price. Why dont people buy them instead of celicas?
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I agree. I love the fact that we don't have much aftermarket parts. Ya we have some. But they are costy, and are hard to find. And thats mostly why there isn't many in the tuner world. Because people take the easy way and buy a mitsubishi, honda, or acura, or nissan, when they are already fast, and you go to our cars in the states and the people that are looking at them don't want to spend so much time and money on it. When we do, and look at us we have a lot of nice cars on this site, and may have spent a pretty penny on them, but who cares we are rare smile.gif


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matt........are you talking out of ur ass again? haha. Actually i didnt even read what you posted. To much to read, i have better things to do like clean my underwear drawer. OWNED! smile.gif

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QUOTE(hitcachi @ Mar 16, 2006 - 2:08 AM) [snapback]408427[/snapback]

matt........are you talking out of ur ass again? haha. Actually i didnt even read what you posted. To much to read, i have better things to do like clean my underwear drawer. OWNED! smile.gif



who me? i dont talk outta my ass!!! i just chew gum with my ass and pop sh#t!!! lol biggrin.gif wink.gif


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post Mar 18, 2006 - 12:11 PM
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At first I really hated it, but now I kinda like it too. About 3 month ago I was planing on selling my Celica (yea I was beeing weird) and getting an Integra. But then integras are so overpopulated, they are everywhere and no body looks at them because they are everywhere. My celica never got any attention from people before but in the last couple of month I had like 6 people saying oh you bought a new car (any by new they were actually saying "new" NEW) and I was like NO its a 1995. I think its all because of my paint, its really shiny for a 1995. And I had like 5 people asking me if I want to sell my car (yea weird ****!!!). Now after checking out some integras and civic's I realized that Celica has the best interior that I've ever seen on an older car. Its just nice looking and doesn't feel cheap like honda interior does.


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Jim, what am i gonna have to do with you. LOL.. No i'm not talking out of my A&& i'm just saying our cars are rare. There is only two other celica's in my town and they are old people. so a lot of tuners see my celica and half the time don't even know what kind of car it is. untill they get up close to it.


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its good that we dont have the aftermarket of a civic, i dont like to see riced 6gc's and i dont, we have more class than that, and we also dont have the parts to do it like the altezza's and stuff like that
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QUOTE(easternpiro1 @ Mar 17, 2006 - 10:51 AM) [snapback]409073[/snapback]

QUOTE(hitcachi @ Mar 16, 2006 - 2:08 AM) [snapback]408427[/snapback]

matt........are you talking out of ur ass again? haha. Actually i didnt even read what you posted. To much to read, i have better things to do like clean my underwear drawer. OWNED! smile.gif



who me? i dont talk outta my ass!!! i just chew gum with my ass and pop sh#t!!! lol biggrin.gif wink.gif

lol! Na i was talking to celiracer. Sorry so many matt's! But celi's were ment to be clean, with the massive 3S-GTE to back the fine a$$ up!


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You guys are not seeing the big picture. Like we all know, the 6th Gen Celica population is far far smaller than say the Civic or Accord. In terms of aftermarket companies, this gives us less choices. And we don't have support for a lot of the big ticket items like turbo kits or superchargers b/c a company would have to put a lot of research and development costs into something like that, and they risk the demand being too low to offset the costs. I think this is one of the major reasons.

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