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post May 28, 2006 - 3:20 AM
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This thread is going to be updated as I do some bodywork and paint my car. I always love these progression threads myself, so I figured I'd make my own this time. smile.gif

Please post your comments as I go along. Since this is my project car and has a salvage title due to vandalism, I'm not doing things that I would if this were going to be a super nice paintjob, like having the rear side windows removed (Average quoted price was $200 around here) and using urethane base coat/clear coat paint (Expensive! And two different types of coats means twice the chances of me messing up.) I'm going to use an enamel of some sort, and going to stick with yellow probably.

Anyway, on with the project:

Day One

Day one started with washing the car with lots of harsh dishsoap and drying it, to remove dirt and some wax. Don't mind the amateur graffiti or the ugly front wheels...Les Schwab screwed up my alignment and it ate my nice Yokohomas up front. frown.gif But do note those sexy sideskirts in the foreground...DCW JDM dealer option replicas, which fit perfectly and are beautiful! Props to Romas for excellent work on those skirts! biggrin.gif

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I then removed the bumpers, headlights, tail-lights, trunk lid, license plate bezel, and some other things. My front bumper is being replaced with a non-modified '95 bumper, and I'm getting rid of the fog lights. My license plate bezel and trunk lid are being replaced with parts from a '94 coupe as well, since they were both damaged in the horrible vandalism incident last June.

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The next step was to start sanding, so I applied grease and wax remover to the hood and front fenders and wetsanded those with 400 grit sandpaper. I called it a day after wetsanding the front end.


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post May 28, 2006 - 3:39 AM
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Day Two

Day two started with more cleaning with grease and wax remover, and then sanding some of the scratches from when my car was vandalized. I used 120, then 220, then 320, then 400 for these areas, except in a couple areas where the scratches are so deep that it'll be easier to use some body filler.

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I then sanded the roof and sides of the car, fuel door, all that fun stuff. I managed to get fiberglass embedded into my arm from my spot sanding pen, which wasn't much fun.

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Once the whole car was sanded (the stuff off the car still isn't sanded, except the trunk lid), I took a break and then worked on getting the TRD replica wing to fit. My new trunk lid has four holes in incorrect places that need to be filled, and needs four new holes for the wing. I drilled the new holes and laid fiberglass over the holes that are going to be filled from the bottom side of the trunk lid, and tomorrow will fill these holes in completely with body filler.

I also fixed a small chip in a sideskirt caused by shipping, and filled the backside of the antenna hole with fiberglass cloth. From what I read, for a small area such as this, the fiberglass cloth should be fine and shouldn't crack and fall off. Again, this is another corner cut, where the best situation would've been to have sheet metal welded in there.

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At this point, it was late, and I'd been working for a good eight hours or so, so I called it a night.

I'm debating whether or not to shave the sidemarkers. Now would be to opportune time to do it, but I'm not quite sure if I want to. What do you guys think?


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post May 28, 2006 - 3:49 AM
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Nice work Coomer, yeah if I were you I would shave the sidemarkers. Looks cleaner.


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post May 28, 2006 - 3:55 AM
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nice. good to know you're keeping your celica.


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ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts are on. which means i need to update my sig.
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looking nice, hope everyhing comes out great smile.gif


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post May 28, 2006 - 8:01 AM
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You have incredible skills Coomer, I vote get rid of the side markers.

oh yea 1988 called, they wanted their graffiti back wink.gif


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post May 28, 2006 - 8:15 AM
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looks good so far chris, good to see you bringin back the yellow celi!
ditch the markers. =)


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post May 28, 2006 - 8:27 AM
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Keep up the good work Coom. Are you keeping her now?

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post May 28, 2006 - 8:32 AM
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Nice work Coom!! I think u should ditch the side markers smile.gif


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post May 28, 2006 - 10:44 AM
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good lookin coom.

new color? same color? mods?


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I guess im outta the loop? Not selling ne more I'm presuming? Did you decide to go back to the cars natural hair color? Turquoise Pearl ftw.


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post May 28, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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aren't u going with that greenish color?


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post May 28, 2006 - 11:53 AM
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Nice work, can't wait to see it finished.


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About filling in the fender, do you think the fiberglass would hold? I was thinking the same thing, but thought the glass would pull and crack the bondo. whats your thought?
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as long as you fill thr outside of the holes with fiberglass before body filler you should be ok. make sure that the surrounding area is ground to bare metal of course


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QUOTE(b1gr3d @ May 28, 2006 - 10:25 PM) [snapback]438802[/snapback]

as long as you fill thr outside of the holes with fiberglass before body filler you should be ok. make sure that the surrounding area is ground to bare metal of course


Ground to bare metal would not matter, because Glass does not bond very well to metal.. I was thinking of drilling holes and then laying matt and resin
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QUOTE(dustinkemp @ May 28, 2006 - 8:44 AM) [snapback]438650[/snapback]

good lookin coom.

new color? same color? mods?


Same color I think...not entirely sure yet. There will be some extra body parts and shaved stuff. smile.gif

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 28, 2006 - 8:47 AM) [snapback]438652[/snapback]

I guess im outta the loop? Not selling ne more I'm presuming? Did you decide to go back to the cars natural hair color? Turquoise Pearl ftw.


Yeah, I got lots of interest, but everyone kind of fell through, so I'm keeping it.

QUOTE(Digndoug @ May 28, 2006 - 2:07 PM) [snapback]438652[/snapback]

About filling in the fender, do you think the fiberglass would hold? I was thinking the same thing, but thought the glass would pull and crack the bondo. whats your thought?


I'm going to fill mine with fiberglass...hopefully it'll hold up. wink.gif


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Day Three

Day three didn't consist of getting a whole lot done. I started by sanding some areas on the car where I'd missed before. I then sanded down the sidemarker area both on the outside and inside of the fender, taped it off so that resin wouldn't drip down, and applied two layers of fiberglass cloth and resin to the inside of the fender.

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I then put my efforts towards sanding the front bumper and rear license plate holder. It took me forever to sand down the front bumper! Once this was done, I glued a piece of plastic behind the key hole in the rear license plate panel. I'll fill the front with plastic body filler, and it should work perfectly to shave the plate hole. I used this technique on the Yelli Celi's rear plate panel after the car was vandalized, and it held up perfectly.

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I also began sanding down a sideskirt, but by this point my fingers were bleeding, so I called it a day.


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damn... bleeding fingers. that's when you know you're working too hard. nice work coomer.


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Hey Coomer,

good luck and much success with the project. I had no idea you suffered such a vicious attack last summer! It's a wonder the Yelli Celi is still on the road. Many would have given up. I guess you are obsessed as the rest of us wink.gif . I will be flagging this thread because I too am starting a bodywork project, hopefully this week. there are so amny obstacles and life keeps getting in the way. Appointments and shift changes, deliveries and commitements keep popping up. I will start a thread as soon as I start. I am going to fix the bumps and bruises the ol' Celipig suffered in it's previous lifetime ( the last owner was a dick-- neglect, scratches, rust, etc) and repaint it stock colour-- Alpine Silver Mettalic. There is so much to do, and I fear I will suffer withdrawl syndrome when I have to drive my Tracker for 2 to 3 weeks while I get this done. i am seriously addicted to my Celi.

Again, hope all goes well and you have a chance to share your experience with the community.

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Day Four

Today was a very productive day, at least by my standards. biggrin.gif I started by sanding down the areas where I was going to apply body filler, and then filled those areas. I filled the front bumper license plate holes, sidemarker holes, a chip on the hood, a ding on each door (only two dings on the entire car in 3.5 years...parking way away helps a lot,) scratches on the passenger rear quarter panel, the antenna hole, dings and holes on the trunk lid, a chip in a sideskirt, and the shaved license plate holder key hole.

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I used USC Halftime, which works very well as both a body filler and icing. Once the filler was dry, I sanded down the areas with 120 and then 220.

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Finally, once all that was done, I cleaned the areas up and shot them with Duplicolor rattle-can sandable primer and primer sealer.

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Are you relocating the key hole, with the Curren wing on it it wont pop.

Jeez this entire thing would be my nightmare, good work.


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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 30, 2006 - 12:19 PM) [snapback]439387[/snapback]

Are you relocating the key hole, with the Curren wing on it it wont pop.

Jeez this entire thing would be my nightmare, good work.


Nope, my key hole was absolutely destroyed when my car got vandalized. My old trunk wouldn't pop either, so I just prop up the handle on the inside and then open the trunk. I very rarely use my trunk anyway, since it's got a battery, amp, and sub back there.


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I have been recomended to weld shut the sidemarkers and trunk hole.... Is there any reason that you chose not to?


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QUOTE(dustin15brown @ May 30, 2006 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]439399[/snapback]

I have been recomended to weld shut the sidemarkers and trunk hole.... Is there any reason that you chose not to?


Budget. tongue.gif

Like I said in the first post, I cut some corners to save money, since it is just my project car. I read that the fiberglass should hold up, and it has for a long time on my bro's car, so hopefully it holds up. smile.gif


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damn coomer, nice job, this really inspires me to do my own car.. as soon as i fix my headlight issues im gonna be all over this thread for tips and tricks
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QUOTE(brianforster @ May 30, 2006 - 2:03 PM) [snapback]439439[/snapback]

damn coomer, nice job, this really inspires me to do my own car.. as soon as i fix my headlight issues im gonna be all over this thread for tips and tricks


Cool man. smile.gif

Here's some tips I haven't posted yet that I've learned so far:
  • Buy good sandpaper and change your piece out for a new one once it gets dull...sanding with dull sandpaper takes forever...it's worth the extra cost of a bit more sandpaper to get it done much faster.
  • Use good body filler...USC Rage Gold is excellent. I've used USC Half-Time on the Yelli Celi for this project and it's worked very well too.
  • Wear a respirator when wetsanding fiberglass...don't think that the water will contain all the fiberglass...small particles still get into the air and are very bad for you. If you can smell fiberglass when wetsanding, that's a sign that you should be wearing a respirator.
  • Quit when you're tired, and if you start to lose inspiration take a break and go look at some sexy cars online or something...that's always motivating for me. smile.gif

That's all I can really think of now.


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my big problem with my body work right now is my freaking front bumper and headlights, they are so out of wack that im just depressed every time i look at my car.. once i fix the front end the rest of the car will be a piece of cake
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The fender looks good.. Thats exactly what i wanted to do, but wasnt sure if it would hold.. and Dont want to have to re-do it some other time.. Im thinking i might try it aswell, but im going to drill some holes around the outside as well, so when the glass lays and drys will have a better hold.
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Can't wait to see your finished project @ the meet Coomer!

with out the front bumper or heat lights the front end looks kinda like the new mustang hah tongue.gif not the exact same or anything...just kind of reminded me

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close amy ^^^

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QUOTE(Coomer @ May 30, 2006 - 8:25 PM) [snapback]439411[/snapback]

QUOTE(dustin15brown @ May 30, 2006 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]439399[/snapback]

I have been recomended to weld shut the sidemarkers and trunk hole.... Is there any reason that you chose not to?


Budget. tongue.gif

Like I said in the first post, I cut some corners to save money, since it is just my project car. I read that the fiberglass should hold up, and it has for a long time on my bro's car, so hopefully it holds up. smile.gif

wasn't trying to rip on ya.. just offering some advice or looking for some helpful hints the way you were doing it.... good job coom


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QUOTE(Coomer @ May 30, 2006 - 2:12 PM) [snapback]439443[/snapback]

[*]Wear a respirator when wetsanding fiberglass...don't think that the water will contain all the fiberglass...small particles still get into the air and are very bad for you. If you can smell fiberglass when wetsanding, that's a sign that you should be wearing a respirator.
[*]Quit when you're tired, and if you start to lose inspiration take a break and go look at some sexy cars online or something...that's always motivating for me. smile.gif
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That's all I can really think of now.


[*]I used to machine fiberglass bow limbs, it would make a cloud of dust.
wear at the least a particle mask. Nasty crap.

[*]Send some of that motivation my way. Props for the work.
Looking good. smile.gif


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Plans to keep the car after all eh? ...not selling it any more?

Good work. Keep the updates coming! woot.gif

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Coomer what year bumper do you have? And are you selling it? Also I noticed you got rid of your sidemarkers... hahah, I'll take those too.

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QUOTE(dustin15brown @ May 30, 2006 - 9:30 PM) [snapback]439544[/snapback]

QUOTE(Coomer @ May 30, 2006 - 8:25 PM) [snapback]439411[/snapback]

QUOTE(dustin15brown @ May 30, 2006 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]439399[/snapback]

I have been recomended to weld shut the sidemarkers and trunk hole.... Is there any reason that you chose not to?


Budget. tongue.gif

Like I said in the first post, I cut some corners to save money, since it is just my project car. I read that the fiberglass should hold up, and it has for a long time on my bro's car, so hopefully it holds up. smile.gif

wasn't trying to rip on ya.. just offering some advice or looking for some helpful hints the way you were doing it.... good job coom


welding would be the way to go...but also takes time and can be a pain (if you don't tig) cause fenders are fairly thin...fiberglass probably the quickest, cost efficient and easiest...cause don't forget you have to form the metal a little bit to the contour of the fender curve before you weld it in..
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This weekend I'm going to have lots of free time, so I'm considering filling in the license plate panel and putting the plate below the rear bumper, possibly attached to a linear actuator so that it can retract into the bumper for pictures and stuff.

What do you guys think of this idea? I did a rough Photoshop rendering:

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And if I choose to go this route, what would be the best way to go about doing something like this? Someone mentioned filling the panel with Great Stuff expanding foam, then shaving it down, then fiberglassing over the foam, and then applying body filler and sanding to finish it off. But I'm not sure if that's the best way to go.


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Honestly, I really dislike that. I'm not fond of shaving the plate location, but the hanging plate just looks "dirty." If you know what im saying. If your going buckwild I'd cut out a new place in the rear bumper and keep the plate from hanging below the bumper.

But thats just my opinion. I am sure I dont have to say how much that doenst make a difference when its your car.

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i dont really like the shaved liscence plate AT ALL, sorry coom
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i like the shave plate...well cause i did it...expanding foam, glass and filler are the way i did it and turned out pretty good...for the license plate hinge you'd want to use something like a small cabinet door hinge and probably gorilla glue it to the inside of the bumper (to prevent screws or wat not)...but good luck project seams to come along nicely
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^^ what he said. but i think a uk plate surround would look much nicer! all of this reminds me of my old 4th gen project.. oh the memories..


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I dont like the rear plate hanging off the back like that, it just looks misplaced to me


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Thanks for the comments. smile.gif I'll probably just go with a normal plate panel with the shaved keyhole, since it'd be a lot of work to make the panel look perfect if it were flattened anyway. If I get a hold of an extra, perhaps I'll do it on the extra panel, paint it (I'll have leftover paint,) and then throw it on to see how it looks.


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Christian, what are you going to do for paint? (color, technique, clearcoat, etc)


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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 2, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]440480[/snapback]

Christian, what are you going to do for paint? (color, technique, clearcoat, etc)


I'm not entirely sure yet. I think I'm going to use an acrylic or synthetic enamel single-stage gloss paint, which I'll color sand and buff and polish afterwards. There will be no clear coat.

I'll be painting with a small-ish Craftsman air compressor and a HVLP gun in my garage which will be turned into a makeshift paintbooth, so we'll see how that goes. The hood, bumpers, rear plate panel, trunk lid, spoiler, extensions, sideskirts, and fuel door will be painted off of the car to make painting easier for me.


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Christian, what are you going to do for paint? (color, technique, clearcoat, etc)


I'm not entirely sure yet. I think I'm going to use an acrylic or synthetic enamel single-stage gloss paint, which I'll color sand and buff and polish afterwards. There will be no clear coat.

I'll be painting with a small-ish Craftsman air compressor and a HVLP gun in my garage which will be turned into a makeshift paintbooth, so we'll see how that goes. The hood, bumpers, rear plate panel, trunk lid, spoiler, extensions, sideskirts, and fuel door will be painted off of the car to make painting easier for me.


Did you see the 3rd post in this thread?

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
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What you SHOULD do coomer is wire in a couple of reverse lights into the shaved license plate panel. That might look sweet!.


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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 2, 2006 - 5:18 PM) [snapback]440500[/snapback]

QUOTE(Coomer @ Jun 2, 2006 - 7:10 PM) [snapback]440495[/snapback]

QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 2, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]440480[/snapback]

Christian, what are you going to do for paint? (color, technique, clearcoat, etc)


I'm not entirely sure yet. I think I'm going to use an acrylic or synthetic enamel single-stage gloss paint, which I'll color sand and buff and polish afterwards. There will be no clear coat.

I'll be painting with a small-ish Craftsman air compressor and a HVLP gun in my garage which will be turned into a makeshift paintbooth, so we'll see how that goes. The hood, bumpers, rear plate panel, trunk lid, spoiler, extensions, sideskirts, and fuel door will be painted off of the car to make painting easier for me.


Did you see the 3rd post in this thread?

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Makes me wonder if this isn't a good way to go? IPB Image


I actually came across that thread a couple months ago, and I tried it a few weeks ago on an old hood, but couldn't get the paint to look right at all. I tried a few times but had no luck at all.


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Are you staying yellow? I know you hated it because you got hasseled.


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Are you staying yellow? I know you hated it because you got hasseled.


I'm not sure...I now live in a different city and haven't been pulled over once, so harassment isn't a problem until I get back to Yakima. Last weekend I didn't make it through two stoplights before I got pulled over immediately after coming into town.

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I know this seems like a stupid question, but why are you being pulled over?
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Because Yakima Cops are scared of real criminals. So they
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thats yakima..... I mean just look at Coomer.... and his whip.... together they scream the attitude of doing something wrong.... So the police just get him ahead of time..... Kind of like minority report laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Coomer @ Jun 2, 2006 - 11:58 PM) [snapback]440615[/snapback]

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jun 2, 2006 - 6:16 PM) [snapback]440525[/snapback]

Are you staying yellow? I know you hated it because you got hasseled.


I'm not sure...I now live in a different city and haven't been pulled over once, so harassment isn't a problem until I get back to Yakima. Last weekend I didn't make it through two stoplights before I got pulled over immediately after coming into town.



The rear bumper is my old Spa Yellow Pearl color. The fender was shot with synthetic enamel paint tonight, but I don't like the lightness of the new yellow, so tomorrow I'm going to go check on other colors I could go with.



i love your old yellow color. i say stay with that, unless you decide to change the color completely.


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I Agree, old color is better. Looks smoother, dont have a better word for it.


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get a sexy euro plate holder smile.gif
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QUOTE(Hanyo @ Jun 3, 2006 - 2:38 PM) [snapback]440724[/snapback]

get a sexy euro plate holder smile.gif


I don't like the euro plate holders with USDM plates, but that's just me. wink.gif

And my old color would be very expensive and hard to shoot, since it's a tri-coat pearl. It should be decently close though once I'm done. smile.gif


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Nicely done. You are doing front and rear extensions along with sideskirts, right? Or just sideskirts?


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wat happened to the honda color you were discussing awhile back...
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QUOTE(BLINKYxMUNKEY @ Jun 3, 2006 - 3:15 PM) [snapback]440733[/snapback]

Nicely done. You are doing front and rear extensions along with sideskirts, right? Or just sideskirts?


Yep, front and rear extensions and sideskirts. I was trying to fit my rear extensions on today but they're such poor quality that they look horrible. frown.gif I have a lot of work to get them to fit.


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Yeah mine are not great either so I've decided to mold them.

But - I hate bodywork so I'm not doing it, when I get my car painted it will all be done.



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Thats strange, mine fit nearly perfectly.


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Day Five

Today was a long day. I started by sanding the sideskirts, cleaning and sanding extensions and the spoiler and the front bumper, and then disassembling the mirrors and cleaning and sanding those. I also worked with the rear extensions and managed to get them to fit somewhat decently.

The most time consuming part of the day however was building a home-made paint booth in my garage. First I cleared out an area.

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Then my mom and dad and I put down plastic for the floor and ceiling and north and south walls.

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Then we put in the east wall and the filter.

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Then we put a fan in, which sucks air out of the booth.

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Then finally we put in the west wall and I made a door and finished sealing it off.

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The idea is to get the overspray to flow upwards and out of the paint booth so it doesn't fall on the paint. I tested out the booth a few minutes ago though, and it just sucked the plastic walls in. I need to put weights on the floor on the outside to hold that down and probably put a fan blowing air in behind the filter. I'm going to do that tomorrow though, since I'm crazy tired.


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nice work chris, your definetly gonna want to get some form of filtered air in as well.
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nice. looks like professional work. keep it up. i already know your car will turn out even more awesome than it already is.


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Day Six

Today I got the paint booth to work reasonably well by setting up another fan behind the filter.

I then laid out parts and cleaned them again.

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Then I painted. This is where it got bad. The gun I was using sucked and everything has tons of orange peel, and the rear bumper will have to be repainted because the gun malfunctioned and shot globs of paint everywhere. frown.gif

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I'm going to send you some parts ok?



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Coomer what gun are u using for your spraying and what kind of Air compressor do you use to powe ryour spray gun.
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if u got that much orange peel it was probably becaues you didnt spray the coats wet enough. and the spatter coming from the gun is either because it wasn't clean, the gun wasnt working right or the paint was too thick in parts


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Coomer you are doing an amazing job! Keep it up man


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Check what Air pressure your Paint gun requers - is it low pressure gun or high press. I would suggest you getting some Low pressure gun (bout 1.5-2bar) and not a big one, they are easy to work with, do not requer big air compressor.

You got orange peal just cuz your air pressure was too low for your paint or gun, or either your paint was not so liquid.

Ussualy take a sample metal sheet - and before painting test everything out on it.



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Hey Coomer,

keep at it man! That yellow fender is really bright. Reminds me of Lissa's new toy smile.gif .

i finally got going with my bodywork too. Slow and steady wins the race, eh? Started sanding the engine bonnet-- big job, many surprises!! Right now i'm fighting with the adhesive residue on the sideskirts. RockGuard panels peeled right off but left a real sticky mess behind. Tired everything i had in the house. Rust remover + rubbing compound + elbow grease works best but is slow.

The spray booth rocks. We are going right to the garage walls with the plastic and venting to the outside through a couple of furnace filters. Hope to paint this weekend.

Anyway it's still raining here so i guess i'll work on the skirts some more.




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Hey Chris nice project. Long time no type. I'm glad to see your keeping the car. It was always inspiration for me to DIY on mine. The STi project is coming along nice. I'll have to send you a few links to check out.

Are those the power-fold mirrors? I never got to see an end result with those. I'll check back and read up the project thread. Your making me wish I still had my Celica. tongue.gif
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wow blast from the bast, whats up ti smile.gif
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Great work Coomer, I'm following this closely because my car also needs to be painted.....very badly. This is inspiration and education for me to take on the job myself, and take my time to make it look as good as possible.

Can't wait to see the end result, its going to look excellent. thumbsup.gif


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Any updates yet Chris, or have you been busy lately? I've had the habit for the past week of checking the exterior forum to see if anythings changed, looking foward to seeing more. smile.gif


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Bump. Updates?


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Awesome man, I'll be shortly starting my own bodywork project, though of a quite smaller scale...hatch and doors, but I'll take notes of your work , thank you for all the info!


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I'm a bit discouraged. I sanded everything down that I painted and re-sprayed some parts with a better gun and compressor, but still came out with lots of orange peel.

And on the parts I tried sanding with high-grit sandpaper(800, 1000, 1500, 2000,) I couldn't buff them to look ok for the life of me. I tried three different rubbing compounds and three different polishes both by hand and machine and my paint looked like it had really, really bad swirl marks no matter what I did. I'm wondering if a bodyshop could buff the car for me once I've got it all sanded down.


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hang in there buddy.



i started my project http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=38095&st=0 almost a month ago and thought i'd be done by father's day at the very latest. it is slow going and, like you, things aren't going as smooth as planned. seems orangepeel is a viscosity issue. make certain you spray thin even coats, your reducer is not flashing off too quickly, is well mixed and humidity is below 85%. these are the only constants i could find when looking up the problem on the web.



FYI:

http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/referenc..._peel/index.cfm



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Day Seven

Today consisted of sanding everything down completely in preparation for more paint, that hopefully goes on correctly this time. kindasad.gif

The sanded part pictures are at home on the other camera, but I'll show you the aftermath on my body at the end of the day. I told my mom to rub sunscreen on my back this morning, but she failed to get my spine area, so now I have a nice painful Christmas-tree shaped sunburn on my back.

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OUCH! kindasad.gif Try to get some aloe on there Chris! Your doing a great job though!! Keep it up man...no matter how painful it may be. smile.gif
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instead of aloe, try hanging a few lights and some garland-- no one will notice laugh.gif Christmas in July, yeah!!!

when i saw the pic i thought of a camping so long ago...we were canoeing down the Miramichi River and we were all too MALE to ask each other to apply lotion on our backs. did our GFs laugh at us when we emerged from the wilderness on Sunday? YES!! 8 guys with matching sunburns...how odd.



hope you get to work on the car this weekend. are you taking Monday off to stretch it into a long Fourth of July weekend? i will be spending a lot of time this Canada Day weekend working on my Celi. hope to fnish masking today and get to the task of painting finally.



the yeloceli is so sharp looking! best of success.



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Chris - about orange peel - either you are using too thick paint and you need to ad some dissolvent to them - or your pressure on your compressor is too low. These are 2 main issues.

About swirl marks, are ya using Clear coat? Or you get swirl marks on your Acril paint? If the swirl marks are Under clearcoat - you aint sanded primer good. As for referance - once you primer your parts - take a ratle can (pref Black) spray really really thin coat of the back paint over your primer (i ussualy dont even cover the surface, just cover it with some small spots of the paint) and then start sanding - you will see all the inperfections on your surface cuz they all be black, this way you will determinate where and how much you need to sand and if you need another coat of primer or not.



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Day Eight

Today was a good day...I finally got the paint to apply correctly, and it looks great so far on the parts I've painted. biggrin.gif I sanded down the underside of my trunk lid so that I could test the paint on that.

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I then cleaned it off and painted it, and it turned out well.

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So I went ahead and painted the rear bumper, rear extensions, and fuel door, and all of them turned out good as well. biggrin.gif I'm so happy that I finally got my painted parts looking good. Tomorrow I'm hoping to get a lot more parts that are off the car painted. smile.gif

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Day Nine

Day nine was tons of work, but I got a lot done. I sanded down my front extensions, sideskirts, and rear spoiler pieces since they were painted, and then I shot some parts.

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For the most part, things went well. You can see most of the parts above.

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I put too much paint on and got a run on the corner of the front bumper though. You can also see some orange peel.

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The trunk lid had quite a bit of orange peel. Flat surfaces are hard for me to shoot. kindasad.gif

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You can see the sideskirt in some detail above. They turned out well.

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The mirrors turned out well too.

Jfrost, I used a different sort of paint together with more thinner.

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QUOTE(Coomer @ Jul 3, 2006 - 7:43 PM) [snapback]451785[/snapback]

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Rayme, I'm using a synthetic enamel single stage paint.

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lookin great Coom! I'll glad you didnt give up after havin some probs biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(NEVERSTOP @ Jul 4, 2006 - 1:41 AM) [snapback]451860[/snapback]

lookin great Coom! I'll glad you didnt give up after havin some probs biggrin.gif

Wanted to ask where you got the sideskirts from??

Romas (Doggy)


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post Jul 4, 2006 - 8:18 AM
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Day Ten

Today I painted the last of the parts off of the car. Again, I had trouble with the pieces with large horizontal surfaces getting lots of orange peel. kindasad.gif

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In the photo above, you can kind of see the orange peel.

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In this one, you can see it in closer detail.

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The vertical pieces, like the spoiler posts and center section, came out well though.

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post Jul 4, 2006 - 11:36 AM
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Coomer, I am so looking forward to seeing the finished product. Stuff like this amazes me.


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post Jul 4, 2006 - 11:35 PM
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are you putting on a different spoiler?


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