project code name: 3sgte, damn BIG THINGS GOING ON HERE Options

[yungazzdriver]

Well i havent really posted on here lately being the really busy person i am,,......lol but i have been wrecklessely overworking myself at my job doing over time and all this due to the new project i came upon about 2 months ago. well to cut it short i had a e153 converted all trac tranny to fwd platform with a cusco lsd and well to go with it i needed an engine,..... so the guy that sold the tranny to me and also converted it told me about his mr2 and his 600+ HP 3sgte swap and well i asked him about his motor currently in the mr2 turbo (3sgte) and well i ended up buying everything i will ever need for the 3sgte to run in my car,.......and well also advice which was how he blew about 4 3sgte's and it was his first time building one up from scratch and reccomended me to, soooooo after i pulled everthing from the mr2,......i trailed it home and put it on the stand and i took it completely in pieces and well now the block is currently in the machine shop getting bored out .002 over and well i guess i took his advice and well im reaching a goal of 350 whp as a RELIABLE motor at 20 lbs of boost sooo YES i am ready to dump alot of money and btw i have a f10x haltec ems system and here are some pics of me in the gray undershirt and my friend pulling the motor apart








This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Jun 15, 2006 - 10:34 PM

[playr158]

looks good kid...hope ya pull it off

[frosty]

have fun!

[x_itchy_b_x]

nice tranny. clean.

[phattyduck]

Definitely good choice on the tranny.

Good luck w/ a motor from an MR2. Make sure you get all the brackets 'n stuff form an all-trac to convert the motor to work in a front engine platform...

-Charlie

[brianforster]

werent you supposed to send me a money order like 2 weeks ago?

[phattyduck]

werent you supposed to send me a money order like 2 weeks ago?

Who's "you"?

-Charlie

[brianforster]

werent you supposed to send me a money order like 2 weeks ago?

Who's "you"?

-Charlie

yungazz

[WH95TE]

How much did you pay for it? I want to put a 3SGTE into my 95 ST once I get some money, but don't know how much I need to save.

[yungazzdriver]

welllllllll soryy about that brian but i havent been on in a while and moneys been tight on this 3sgte rebuild so i am going custon exhaust manifold (well built one) so i shoudve let you know before. but as for the rebuild thanks all who have left good coments and well i hope i achieve my goal but i have pics of the engine put back together withought internals but just for the fun of learning my engine inside out and well the pic below ( piston's ringland is brocken off and thus the reason why the rebuild is being done) and well rebuild brings better things,................forged internals .0025 over pistons, etc soo look out im trying to get mid 12 sec pass but more importantly,........reliability!

[zipstrips]

nice valvecover

[yungazzdriver]

ive been workin on appearance, since ive been waiting on money soooooo.........my valve cover , intake manifold, exhaust manifold, fuel rail, belt cover and throttle horn are all polished now and lookin sexy!!! butt this friday the block is going to machine shop for boring out cleaning and testing and well the short block will be assembled by next weekend (begining of july). and waiting on goodies ie: arias .0025 over pistons, ats fuel rail, fidanza gears, greddy timing belt, t3/t4 turbo kit, external wastegate Tial. etc i think by end of jusly be ready except wiring

[playr158]

if your going to do all that why get a modified stock fuel rail from ats budget shop?

get a wolfkatz

[presure2]

if your going to do all that why get a modified stock fuel rail from ats budget shop?

get a wolfkatz

my guess would be the extra 300$ the wolfkatz costs.

[yungazzdriver]

yuppp!!! but i am currently taking into consideration a top feed fuell rail........we'll see i just have to get the machine shop business out of the way

[Akimbo]

Nice project.
Are you Mexican?

[yungazzdriver]

well i dont know how to take that question,............offensively or not?!?!?!? but no im not i was born in providence hospital washington dc my background is guatemalan

[Akimbo]

I don't know why you'd find that offensive, I didn't mean it like that. Was just wondering, cuz I am Mexican. Was just curious. Keep us posted on your project bro

[yungazzdriver]

no hard feelings i just didnt really know what you meant at first, (thought it was in a joking way) but its cool ill let yall know whats up because this weekend im heading over to paradise racing to buy the je pistons and arp rod bolts

[Akimbo]

can i ask how much you are putting into this

[yungazzdriver]

well i only need a couple of things left and well it should be about 3500-4000 total just because engine and standalone were very cheap



This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Jun 29, 2006 - 12:10 PM

[yungazzdriver]

well there is a hella big update,........well for one i have the motor in pieces and well heres a list of so far done

-block decked bored pattern honed, hot bathed

-crankshaft polished and balanced

-arp head studs

-stock rods conditioned cleaned

-head cleaned pressure tested/new vlave seals

-powder coated valve cover candy black w/midnight blue flakes

-cleaned intake manifold/new throttle body

-custom exhaust manifold with t3/t4 flange, wastegate for tial.

-egr block off plates

-distributor eliminator kit

-king bearings std size

this is so far what i got but im waiting on the arias pistons and the holset hx35 turbo.
heres a pic of the motorless celica

[playr158]

nice!

now show us part pics!!!


keep goin strong

[celicast3sgte]

dude you have said arias pistons and JE pistons. which are you getting? and you said t3/t4 kit but then say holset hx35 (turbo from a cummins diesel).

just observing. lol

nice build.

[x_itchy_b_x]

going hx35 also lets see this

[97lestyousay]

arias .0025 over pistons,

I think you need to drop a zero there.

[yungazzdriver]

yeah i wanted to go garrett t3/t4 and it was going for 600 dollars but a buddy of mine was telling me he could find holset turbos brand new for 500 dollars and he told me of the reliable of these cummins truck turbos then my mind was made up for the holset. as for je over arias pistons,......arias pistons is distributed by paradise racing here in Maryland and i can get them for a good price pics of parts will most likely go on tonight

[celicast3sgte]

very nice, is there a reason going .025 over as to the more common .020?

[yungazzdriver]

well theres been a few updates, just been working alot lately so post have been hard to do......... but well heres the update

-cometic 1mm headgasket purchased
-2 pistons in the motor (forged from top line) (other two arent in because i lost the pin locks.....ooops)
-oil pump on aswell as fresh water pump and lines
-oil cooler on
-bearings on and blue printed
-piston rings..........toyota dealer piston rings
-front main seal and rear main seal on ( toyota) and gaskets/hardware
-arp studs on
-head cleaned and fresh seals
-fidanza gears purchased (waiting for arrival)
-pending on sale for a t04z turbonetics turbo with custom manifold, downpipe and wastegate for 1100 but worried about other components at the moment
as well as an electromotive ecu already tuned for 330 whp at 18 lbs of boost
-lsd transmission in the celica with mounts off of a camry mixed with st mounts/ one custom mount
- truck bed coated the engine bay black ( sexy looking!!!)

heres pics of the two pistons and block

[y2komar]

wow sexy engine

[celicast3sgte]

lookin good dude, about what my motor looks like... lol but im still tearing down

[Glitch001]

so this "guy" and his 600hp mr2, do you have any other details on it?

Personally 20psi is a LOT of boost to daily drive at, a dual setting would be better. Especially in a fwd platform, i know at 22psi my first gear is nonexistant.

also are you going to be changing the intake manifold, any headwork and what injectors do you plan on using. Im assuming you have 93 octane where you live, and 22psi (without water injection) on 93 on stock injectors will kil that motor. Not putting you down or anything, just convo about 3sgte. My goal was turnkey 420hp with NO extra maintance work (i.e. retorque headstuds, oil change, coolant flush) basic things. and i finally acheived that just wondering your path to take to perhaps change some of my own setup.

[Punisher]

Cams, intake manifold, throttle body would help that engine breathe easier so you could get your HP # easier.. probably on less boost = more reliable.

You want to use as little boost as possible.

[yungazzdriver]

yeah mos definately but i want reliability with that power,............seeing around here you need to have a reliable fast car or else its just another full race vehicle not a fast ass street car and around here theres alot of top dog street daily driven high hp cars so might aswell beef out the internals but yeah i really wish i had the money for cams or custom intake manifold, that way i wouldnt need to boost too much but to a surprise i went up to paradise racing to pick up a cometic 2mm head gasket and well he gave me a deal on eagle rods i could never say no to,..............EVER!!!! so well i tore the block apart again so i can replace the stock rods with eagle h-beams and arp bolts included and well put it back together in no time and well finding the right socket to fit those damn arp head stud nuts is hard as crap because clearance in the bolt bore in the head is highly restricted and especially cuz i need a 12 point 12mm socket restricts it even more!! grrrr but this bad boy will be torqued down asap aswell as oil pan on and cam shafts on aswell but still need lower idler pulley from toyota and i can finally put it to top dead center and put the timimg belt on and need purchase of clutch from competition clutch( 6 pluck race kit) and this monster will go in the celica,..........oh yeah and now i need a custom manifold for the borgwarner t3/t4 i got from paradise aswell ( paradiseracing.com--excellent parts for toyotas ---best prices---highly recommend) and still need more money in my little piggy bank for the haltec ems (e6x)1200-1400bucks well i definatly am getting alot of great feedback from pro toyota builders and they're letting me know i will definately be hitting the goal of 350whp at about 18 lbs of boost (plan to run 24 lbs of boost at the track) well i wanna say i really want the celica to break the low 12 high 11 sec barrier with drag radials and my tranny with a cusco lsd.

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Nov 5, 2006 - 11:20 PM

[playr158]

borgwarner is a GREAT turbo....looks like your coming along very well since the first time we met lol

i'm gonna have to take a looks see at your stuff when i'm up there some time!

screw the DOT drag radials full slicks ftw

[yungazzdriver]

well i put it all together but awaiting the custom manifold which is said be ready for pick up by friday and the fidanzas havent come in yet either so i have the manifold for sale to whoever wants it,...........gimme 65 shipped for it and its yours and if some one is interested in stock rods, EXCLLENT condition,.....make offer, aswell as a 3sgte oil pan but well heres a pic of the motor put together with the stock cam gears so i can top dead center it.

[Jeremy1210]

Looking really good man. Going to haul @$$ with that motor

[vsideboy]

that motor looks sweet.

sounds like you've done alot of work there (several times for some of it too lol.)

[madmods]

Yung,
Good to see all the hard work your putting into that motor. Very impressive. Take your time and do it right.

[yungazzdriver]

well i got the new manifold in and let me tell yall they did a SEXY job becuase all ports and runners look sexy as shyt and smoooooth!!!!!! and its meant for a t04 z and a tial 38mm wastegate port

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Nov 20, 2006 - 2:18 PM

[yungazzdriver]

wellllll everyone i know its been a while and i havent posted anything recent........sorry bout that, but its just ive been working alot and well three 3sgtes later i went with a jdm mr2 3sgte with 40k miles on it because the other two motors went out becuase of the freakin oil pumps, well this motor is greaaaaat!!!! love it! well all i can say is that friday october 5th i took it to the dyno and got this motor retuned by NTO motorsports.........specializing in toyota motors and Haltec ems'.......................outcome????????

293 whp and 263ft lbs of torque,..............all at freakin 12 psi peaking at 13 on a t3/ t4 turbo all bone stock motor except for fuel pump and turbo kit( custom) and haltech ems with sensors!!!!!!!! gotta love toyotas,............because i beat the crap out of a k20 powered civic hatch running 13.1 in a quarter mile and i smoked a crx with a b20 vtech spraying 75 shot of nitrous and all this done on all-season tires (btw this did happen at the track) man people finally respect young drivers and toyotas round my way

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Oct 6, 2007 - 8:19 PM

[celicast3sgte]

sorry to hear about the miss fortunes.. dont suppose you are parting the ARP rod bolt out of the original motor (assuming theyre still good?)

[99GT]

Dang three 3sgte later haha, I'm still saving for my first. Good numbers and good luck man!

[yungazzdriver]

naw sorry man sold the bolts already! got a couple studs you can use for the head, you need to buy like 4 new ones

heres some pics and a vid later aswell as the dyno sheet




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWgW5hn8MGw

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Oct 7, 2007 - 8:06 PM

[celicast3sgte]

aw no problem man. lookin good! atleast she runs now! good numbers too.

[99GT]

Flat black is sexy!

[Punisher]

Interesting.. any more specs on that turbo? I put down the same numbers at 14PSI on a gt2871R completely untuned stock ecu...

[1bwilson]

What shops are you using for dyno runs? Im a MD'er and need to find a place to tune my 5sfte soon.

[yungazzdriver]

see tuning is everything man!!!!!!!!!! its a borgwarner t3/t4 super 60 and NTO is the name of the toyota guys who tune my car and we used swift racings dyno (srt) both on rt1

[frosty]

Very nice man. Good numbers.

Get some more pics of it all and some full body of the celica. (I love the flat black!)

[lagos]

dyno sheet? run files?

[CelicaSTX02]

Awesome stuff man, any updates with videos and pictures of your dynos??

[playr158]

ha so i did see him the other night.

[Fr3AkAzOiD]

Wow, that was fast!

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=53305

[tim86]

great job, looks like your hard work paid off and im glad u beat some hondas at the track haha... thats the way it should be

[95celgt]

so how exactly did 2 3sgtes blow due to oil pumps?

[snapshotgt]

dyno sheet? run files?