Coupes vs. Hatchbacks, It all began with the Coupe! Options

[UTSlickVic]

It all began with the Coupe!

I hate to start this but I'm bored and I like to divided today

PS: I love both hatches and coupes equally. I was just thinking

1) The first Celica was a Coupe... so are the Coupes today "truer" to the original Celica concept?

2) 20 years from now, which will be more rare a 94 Coupe or a 94 Hatchback (not a GT4 )- both in great condition, and assume both are GTs? or STs? whatever


Discuss... ( and please be respectful of eachothers cars )

[trdproven]

The coupe is nice, if fixed up correctly.

[Supersprynt]

I motion to prevent this topic from ever being brought up again.

[JFrost9]

lol this is simply all tastes. Slick has the priveledge of having one of the nicest couples ive seen. (another one is that maroon one with the kit, i dont know whos it is i can never remember). That being said i will always like the hatch body design over the coupes. It wont be as rare, but i like the way it looks =).

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

booooo! you guys forgot the vert!



but yeah, i like all 3 of them. only thing is that hatchbacks have alot of trunk space. but that spare tire hump kills it lol

[MaskedMan]

booooo! you guys forgot the vert!



but yeah, i like all 3 of them. only thing is that hatchbacks have alot of trunk space. but that spare tire hump kills it lol

yes yes go vert! haha

[UTSlickVic]

I motion to prevent this topic from ever being brought up again.

I know Super, this has been done before. Thats why I added sub topics/questions to my main topic. But I'm bored damn it! I exercise my right to repost, its in the Constitution or something. Comon Super you know you like it....

Here is some 1971 or 72 Celica Coupe Pics
I really want one.. some look so beautiful

PS: Thanks Joke





I guess we were the last generation to rock the quad headlights... Im getting tery eyed

[6th_celi_vert]

us vert guys never get no respect...lol.

[j0e_p3t]

i'd choose the hatch over any vert or coupe any day. but all 6gc's are sexy.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Jun 20, 2006 - 7:59 PM

[Rayme]

I had a 5th gen coupe, I loooooooooved it, but now I have a 6th gen hatch, and I looooooooooooooooove it. LOL

[brianforster]

the easiest way to make a coupe look good is the TRD wing, i liked coomers coupe too..

however when i see an entirely stock coupe i cant believe its the same car as my hatchback.. i think stock coupes are just not good looking (no offense to anyone)

convertibles look better than coupes IMO, but i still prefer hatchback (id take a convertible though for the sheer top down factor)

[CLYCK]

Even though mine is no longer on the road i loved the coupe, sure more trunk space in a hatch but i love my coupe because its not another 6gc every other celica i see for sale is a hatch. And dont get me wrong i love the way the hatches look but i believe the stock tailights on the coupe/vert look way better than the hatch and its diffrent i liked being diffrent driving down the road its cool to see another 6gc but its even better to see a coupe which till this day ive only seen 3 including my own.

[purplegt4]

TC's a coupe.

[presure2]

for the 6th gen, i have one thing to say.
94-99 GT-4 = the greatest stock celica ever made. only available in hatch.
end of disscusion.

[brianforster]

for the 6th gen, i have one thing to say.
94-99 GT-4 = the greatest stock celica ever made. only available in hatch.
end of disscusion.

true, i think they only came manual right? another common downside to celicas OUT THE WINDOW! And since its not a base model its guarunteed power windows/locks.. your exactly right

[BluuFire]

I personally like the hatchback over the coupe stock but i think that all look good (including vert). But again, it really depends on whats been done to them. I've seen some trashed up coupes, hatches, and verts. So looks all depend on whats been done. But kinda back to slick's question:

1) I don't think that the 94 coupe is very true to original because original was a little bit of a diferent design. It was not quite as powerful obviously but it started off as a rear-wheel drive (which was soon changed afterwords). The coupe has changed quite a bit since its debut in many ways, but its still a celica and its a sweet car.

2) As far as which will be more rare in 20 years, I would imagine that there will be less coupes than hatches becuase I believe that there were more hatches sold in 94 than coupes (correct me if im wrong) But Toyota soon found out that the hatchbacks were more well sought after and is why they began to only sell the hatch and vert and totally ditched the coupe in 99'.

Either way, no matter hatch, coupe, or vert, its still a celica and all of them are way cool.

But thats just my 2 cents...

[vincent_doggy]

us vert guys never get no respect...lol.

Vert guys get a lot of respect all over the world...lol.

Again, all 6GC are sexy.... .. especially for those with Projectors head and JDM/Curren tail...

This post has been edited by vincent_doggy: Jun 20, 2006 - 8:48 PM

[jdg371]

I had a 91 Celica Coupe.. that was nice.. then my 97 Celica HB.. Im not really a fan of the coupe 6gc in the beggining.. especially the wingless ones.. they just looked naked! (goes for the 4,5,6gc) Then when I saw some with a wing they started looking alright.. HB ftw!

[celicasteve]

i like coupes becuase they handle better, thats why i have a 91 silvia (its a coupe)lol

its stiffer and lighter!!

Steve

[j0e_p3t]

coupes are lighter? i always thought they were heavier. but then again, i also thought they had more trunk space.

[BluuFire]

Yes I do believe tha coupe is lighter but the hatch sits a little lower which helps a little. In my oppinion though, I think that the hatch handles a bit better than the coupe. I drove a coupe with the same basic suspension setup as mine and the hatch had quite a bit of a handling advantage. But again it does depend on many factors like tires, suspension, options (leather, sunroof, things that add weight), and things like that. With all of these factors in mind it is pretty dificult to compare the coupe versus the hatch in handling unless you had the exact same setup and weight.

[jdg371]

Coupes are lighter because they dont have the huge glass in the back..

[j0e_p3t]

makes sense. so where does the vert stand in all of this? i used to think it was the heaviest, but i dunno what to think anymore.

[kenjamatic]

i prefer the hatchback because i think it looks a little sportier...they both are good cars though..
according to msn the 1996 celica hatchback is 2580lb, the vert is 2782lb, and the coupe is 2560lb...
i don't think there's much difference in 20lbs but then again that's $0.02...
reference

[hitcachi]

Im sorry but you are not going to notice any difference what so ever in 20 pounds. Toyota dropped the coupe version in the later years of the 6GC for a reason. Coupes= eh i guess your car is nice. Hatchbacks= holy crap, is that a supra!? And i also back what Manny said.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

verts = what the hell is that??? wow is it a camero or a mustang. lol

ive gotten my car confused with a camero or a mustang sooooooo many times b4 its not even funny, the top looks the same from the camero. but i remember once i got a "hey its a convertible supra wtf" lol and i pointed at the badges, they felt dumb lmao

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Jun 22, 2006 - 3:10 PM

[snapshotgt]

Hatchback all the way. It looks so much hotter! (no offence)

~snap

[hurley97]

for the 6th gen, i have one thing to say.
94-99 GT-4 = the greatest stock celica ever made. only available in hatch.
end of disscusion.

^agreed

i <3 my hatch

i just really like that nice flowing line the hatch makes as opposed to the abrupt stop and flat trunk on a coupe...but thats just what i like in a car in general, nothing against 6gc coupe/verts
but all 6gc's have a place in my heart lol

[LBCxGUY]

i love my coupe. its so damn sexy....well to me it is at least. as long as i like it.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

eh i like my vert cause its rare.

when was the last time uve seen a limited edition celi vert? lol its cali spec too so i get that 5+ torque lol...

[2003cbgts]

i personally like them all, but ended up with a vert. for some reason, id rather have a coupe or hatch though . seems like there isnt that many kits/stuff u can add to a a vert. and its heavier .. dammit...

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

yeah im with you, i wish i had a hatch lol cause i like the backseats, they look wayyyy nicer.

[95celgt]

I prefer the vert, when I drove mine around town, man it was an attention grabber:)

[BlackSTX]

Mmmm, the convertible IS a coupe, with the top chopped off. The coupe's better handling, stiffer body and lighter. The tall rear end of the hatch gives it a sportier look, but I like the simplicity of the coupe, more like a true sports car. Easier to see out the back I bet too.

[ILuvMyCelica95]

1994-99 Toyota Celica: Specs & Safety
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 2-door convertible 2-door coupe 2-door hatchback
Wheelbase, in. 99.9 99.9 99.9
Overall Length, in. 177.0 177.0 174.0
Overall Width, in. 68.9 68.9 68.9
Overall Height, in. 51.6 51.0 50.8
Curb Weight, lbs. 2755 2395 2415
Cargo Volume, cu. ft. 6.8 10.6 16.2
Standard Payload, lbs. -- -- --
Fuel Capacity, gals. 15.9 15.9 15.9
Seating Capacity 4 4 4
Front Head Room, in. 38.7 34.3 34.3
Max. Front Leg Room, in. 44.2 44.2 44.2
Rear Head Room, in. 34.1 29.2 29.2
Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 18.9 26.6 26.6


This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Jun 23, 2006 - 1:14 PM

[UTSlickVic]

1994-99 Toyota Celica: Specs & Safety
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 2-door convertible 2-door coupe 2-door hatchback
Wheelbase, in. 99.9 99.9 99.9
Overall Length, in. 177.0 177.0 174.0
Overall Width, in. 68.9 68.9 68.9
Overall Height, in. 51.6 51.0 50.8
Curb Weight, lbs. 2755 2395 2415
Cargo Volume, cu. ft. 6.8 10.6 16.2
Standard Payload, lbs. -- -- --
Fuel Capacity, gals. 15.9 15.9 15.9
Seating Capacity 4 4 4
Front Head Room, in. 38.7 34.3 34.3
Max. Front Leg Room, in. 44.2 44.2 44.2
Rear Head Room, in. 34.1 29.2 29.2
Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 18.9 26.6 26.6

Overall Length is the same between HB and Coupe? and Vert is less? That seems counter intuitive. I thought for sure a cuope/vert is longer than a hatch. And the 360 lbs LESS than a hatchback!!! Damn homie. Diffantly will make a diff on the track.

Yeah I agree with most that a Hatch looks better than a "stock" coupe. But I still love my car.

[hurley97]

1994-99 Toyota Celica: Specs & Safety
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 2-door convertible - 2-door coupe - 2-door hatchback
Overall Length, in. 177.0 - 177.0 - 174.0

Overall Length is the same between HB and Coupe? and Vert is less? That seems counter intuitive. I thought for sure a cuope/vert is longer than a hatch. And the 360 lbs LESS than a hatchback!!! Damn homie. Diffantly will make a diff on the track.

no... overall length is the same btw vert and coupe. hatch is 3 in less
you thought right the first time

This post has been edited by hurley97: Jun 23, 2006 - 2:03 PM

[DomGT]

I like all 6GC but I do own a hatch. One thing I love is the trunk space! 16 cubic feet and I use EVERY inch of it. My hatch is filled ALL the time.

[snapshotgt]

eh i like my vert cause its rare.

when was the last time uve seen a limited edition celi vert? lol its cali spec too so i get that 5+ torque lol...

Yesterday.

[tomazws]

for the 6th gen, i have one thing to say.
94-99 GT-4 = the greatest stock celica ever made. only available in hatch.
end of disscusion.

doesn't this applied to the 5th gen too?

[UTSlickVic]

1994-99 Toyota Celica: Specs & Safety
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 2-door convertible - 2-door coupe - 2-door hatchback
Overall Length, in. 177.0 - 177.0 - 174.0

Overall Length is the same between HB and Coupe? and Vert is less? That seems counter intuitive. I thought for sure a cuope/vert is longer than a hatch. And the 360 lbs LESS than a hatchback!!! Damn homie. Diffantly will make a diff on the track.

no... overall length is the same btw vert and coupe. hatch is 3 in less
you thought right the first time

oops ur right hurley... may bad. Got vert / HB switched

[6strngs]

I like my hacthback. trunk space galore, and if you flip down the back seats you have soooo much storage space it's not even funny. I bag groceries at a grocery store, and we offer to help customers take their groceries to their cars. well, one night I helped out this lady and she had a white coupe. she didn't have very much stuff, but I still had trouble fitting it all in. anyway, that brings me to my next point, how come everyone that I ever see driving a 6th gen around my town (there are at least 7 or 8 in my city besides mine) is some middle-aged lady? *sigh* our cars deserve better.

other than that, I just like the way the hatch looks a little more. but I still respect the coupe and have seen some sweet ones. I just wouldn't want to own one since I wouldn't be able to fit my guitar and amp in the back!

[LewFX]

theres auto gt-4s correct?

[runningaddict6]

i must say, as a coupe owner, that IMO hatches are sexier stock. when modded correctly both hatch and coupe are equal, but in my budget range, the sexier car would have been the hatch. but i was naive when i got the car and didnt know about the hatches, and the coupe is still sexy, just not as much as the hatch.

This post has been edited by runningaddict6: Jun 24, 2006 - 5:06 PM

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

eh i like my vert cause its rare.

when was the last time uve seen a limited edition celi vert? lol its cali spec too so i get that 5+ torque lol...

Yesterday.

boo you spoiled my moment... lol but yeah

which is more areodynamic coupe or hatchback or verts.

[rudeboy3d]

theres auto gt-4s correct?

Far as I know, the Caldina is the first vehicle to pair an auto tranny and the magnificent monster known as the 3SGTE... Every single All-Trac is a manual... hatchback too... cough liftback cough....


My "two cent", the 5th gen coupe w/three piece spoiler looks the best... My All-Trac was heavy as F-word, and yeah thats the motor, options, drivetrain, etc, but that friggin hatch didnt help. The 5th gen GT hatches are a blast. Sadly, I don't know what its like to drive a 6th gen... ... But I think the hatch looks the best... Personally, I don't like the sideways lights, but thats me... if they were done up like the 99-00 Civic Si with the red and white, itd look a lot better...



What will I be getting in the near future? A hatch... I bought the TRD quick shifter for it when I had my Trac, and planned on getting the car to match the shifter...


And yes I am dead serious about that






No matter what you own, be it a 1st gen or a 6th gen, coupe vet or hatch, beater or show winner, stick or auto... You are part of a family... Long live the dragon

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

i dont think 7th gens sported the dragon.

did they?

[2003cbgts]

no^^^ no dragons on the 7th gens... well ive seen a few people add them , but not quite the same.

[uberschall]

a couple days late, but here goes.

technically, the coupes are *better* handling cars, because the plenum under the rear window acts as a brace between the shock towers on the rear. hatches, which lack any rigidity between the upper mounts, should technically suffer from less body rigidity.

the cargo capacity of coupes is laughable, i should know. i loved the way mine looked, but due to the high trunk sill (and consquent shallow trunk opening), cargo volume was insufficient. there was a lot of space back there, but if you couldn't fit it through the narrow trunk opening, game over. the hole in the panel behind the seats further limits cargo input.

the hatch has fewer interior obstructions, as well as a much larger opening. while i realise that this is a sporty car and was never intended to substitute for a pickup truck, moving back and forth to college a couple times a year would be much easier in a hatch. not to mention having space for a bmx bike, guitar amps, and anything else remotely cool one might want to carry along.

i'll have to do some research on the weight distributions, but i should think that they're about the same. the 6gen is an uncommonly well-balanced car at nearly 50/50.

on looks, i say they're totally tied. on practicality and functionality, hatches hands down.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

verts = the fat asses of the celi family

well n/m about the fat part, but they are overweight lol

lol if i get locked in the trunk im dead cause i dont have that thing where you could get out. lol but with so little space, especially since i got the subwoofer box that isint even big, it takes up like 3/4th of the space.

i hate going to cosco in my vert cause i gotta play tetris in the trunk to get everything to fit.