Sway bar end links, need new ones Options

[orvillescelica]

So like many others on here, during spring/shock install, i had to cut off the sway bar end links to get them off. So of course i need new ones. I would like to upgrade if i can so next time i wont have this problem. Does anyone know if ones from a st185 would work, as in they being a similar length? I have found great ones here:

http://www.twosrus.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=254

If they dont work, ive been told i can call them and they will custom make some to the correct length.

[orvillescelica]

GOOD NEWS FOR US! i got my answer by emailing them:

I was wondering if you made sway bar end links for the 94-99 celica. If not,
can they be custom ordered? They are very similar to your MR2 and st185
ones. link to picture of sway bar end links:

http://www.lewfx.com/6GC/end_links.jpg

the center bar from weld to weld is about 7.7 cm

thank you,
Asher Yap

From: David Hawkins
Club MR2 <orders@clubmr2.com>

It appears to be the same as the ST185 rear link. That's just
over 3" between the ends and the ends face the opposite directions.



Which means.... Cut away at those old crusty ones, cause now you can order these stronger ones with a nut on bolt design so youll never have to use that hex key ever again! I just ordered some, both for $75 shipped. Ill let you all knwo how they work out.

This post has been edited by orvillescelica: Aug 14, 2006 - 12:24 PM

[presure2]

GOOD NEWS FOR US! i got my answer by emailing them:

I was wondering if you made sway bar end links for the 94-99 celica. If not,
can they be custom ordered? They are very similar to your MR2 and st185
ones. link to picture of sway bar end links:

http://www.lewfx.com/6GC/end_links.jpg

the center bar from weld to weld is about 7.7 cm

thank you,
Asher Yap

From: David Hawkins
Club MR2 <orders@clubmr2.com>

It appears to be the same as the ST185 rear link. That's just
over 3" between the ends and the ends face the opposite directions.



Which means.... Cut away at those old crusty ones, cause now you can order these stronger ones with a nut on bolt design so youll never have to use that hex key ever again!

david is a great guy, ive met him in person.
good to know the alltrac rears work....now for the fronts!

[Culpable04]

how can I order them ?

[zipstrips]

so st185 rear links will cross over to fit our 6th gens?!! i think he needs to update hit site now lol, group buy?!

[LewFX]

any update how these compare to stock?
the ones i got do nicely for a stock replacement

This post has been edited by LewFX: Aug 18, 2006 - 9:18 AM

[orvillescelica]

im still waiting for them to get here. It says that it should be here this weekend. I wont be able to install them until mid next week though.

[zipstrips]

im still waiting for them to get here. It says that it should be here this weekend. I wont be able to install them until mid next week though.

keep us updated please, ill order a set once i know yours fit!

[j0e_p3t]

i'd be down for a gb.

[LewFX]

hey joe, maybe upgrade your bushings too...ask chanh where he got his done, i hear it helps allot

[j0e_p3t]

i probably will. but not anytime soon. i've spent my money on other stuff and i need more money so i can install them.

[orvillescelica]

Sorry for the delay with this guys. I got the sway bar end links on friday but was busy all weekend. Ill try to install them later this week, but as you can see, there is no reason why they shouldnt be a direct fit. In addition, you can see they are somewhat adjustable in length although i havent tried it. They are much more beefy than the stock ones as well as better constructed without that stupid allen key point. There is an actual bolt part to hold!!

[Coomer]

Those are nice looking. I'm looking forward to seeing the results.

[Jdog1385]

i just ordered a set as well...ill post pics and reviews as soon as i get them on

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Nice, I'll definately buy a set when I upgrade my sway bars at some point. I absolutely HATE those allen-heads on the stock endlinks....lol.

[Jdog1385]

Nice, I'll definately buy a set when I upgrade my sway bars at some point. I absolutely HATE those allen-heads on the stock endlinks....lol.

i know, they're so annoying. i wish they had a set for the front but o well.

[LewFX]

any new news about these?

[dustin15brown]

Also curious

[netrata]

x2. I need the fronts.

[Jdog1385]

torn ligaments in my wrist has prevented me from working on the car. hopefully this weekend ill get them in.

[playr158]

oo they look very nice

added to my list of parts

do we know anything about the fronts? or should i contact them and send in a stocker?

[Jdog1385]

oo they look very nice

added to my list of parts

do we know anything about the fronts? or should i contact them and send in a stocker?

yeah they dont sell the fronts so that would be a great idea. im sure they are willing to do it. let us know

[baddisintegra]

is there a specific adjustment we have to set these at or do we just go with what feels best for us?

[playr158]

ok well i will send them an Email later today and see if can work something out for the fronts

[mikew04]

since no one else has put anything up..
i ordered some and installed them, they fit up great. i also replaced my rear top mounts (they didnt look too bad tho) and the rear end quieted up completey; got rid of the clunking noise.
didn't adjust them, they came at the same length as stock so i just left them there.
so, how about some fronts?

[99GT]

Do you need these to replace the stock ones? Or do you still need to buy if you were to say buying a new set of suspension tech's sway bars? Can someone clarify, thanks.

[playr158]

these are just an upgraded OEM replacement thats it...u can use them stock or uprated suspension

[playr158]

i'm sending stock front links up to Dave today. He's going to compair then to ST185 front if they work he's going to let me know if not he's going to make me some

[99GT]

Any word on the front?

[ExSane]

OoOoO! I want! Mines got damaged while installing springs.

[playr158]

i'm mailing it out later today i'll have an answer next week for you guys

[99GT]

Any word? haha

[CelicaGT04]

since no one else has put anything up..
i ordered some and installed them, they fit up great. i also replaced my rear top mounts (they didnt look too bad tho) and the rear end quieted up completey; got rid of the clunking noise.
didn't adjust them, they came at the same length as stock so i just left them there.
so, how about some fronts?

How much did you pay for the end links and top mounts?

[mikew04]

The endlinks were 75 here
The top mounts were KYB and around 90 for the pair at Advance Auto Parts (website part # SM5087)

[snapshotgt]

i'm mailing it out later today i'll have an answer next week for you guys

Any word on the fronts Dan?

[urbandork]

ill be doing a full suspension revision and am collecting parts these endlinks front and rear would be first on my list. Put in the word that if they could get a set for the front ill buy them as well as a set for the rear.

[playr158]

when i talked to them the ST185 fronts should work fine with the AT200/ST20X

[snapshotgt]

I have already ordered and gotten a full set of st185 links. We'll see about how they fit .. i don't think we'll have any problems. Btw, they look REALLY sweat!

[urbandork]

I have already ordered and gotten a full set of st185 links. We'll see about how they fit .. i don't think we'll have any problems. Btw, they look REALLY sweat!

woot woot keep us posted

[snapshotgt]

here is a teaser cell phone picture:

[Slick]

Wow! how much was the whole set?

[urbandork]

here is a teaser cell phone picture:

on their site its said that they only have the rear links how did u get the fronts. I am confident that the st185 fronts will also work for us as they look to be the exact same length

im going to buy mine this week



This post has been edited by urbandork: Feb 14, 2007 - 12:51 AM

[snapshotgt]

on their site its said that they only have the rear links how did u get the fronts. I am confident that the st185 fronts will also work for us as they look to be the exact same length

im going to buy mine this week

I'm testing st185 fronts out on my celica for them.

[urbandork]

on their site its said that they only have the rear links how did u get the fronts. I am confident that the st185 fronts will also work for us as they look to be the exact same length

im going to buy mine this week

I'm testing st185 fronts out on my celica for them.

cool please keep us updated as to how things are going

[playr158]

they have offered the fronts for awhile

[snapshotgt]

they have offered the fronts for awhile

You're right .. but no one knew for sure (100%) if they'd work since they have not been tried out.

[playr158]

so what are you waiting for since you have them mr. baller

[azian_advanced]

just a quick question about the rear links, i just bought myself two sets (i thought putting 2 in the qty field would give me 2 links, not two pairs).. anyway, it seems that they can be adjusted.
would making them shorter make cornering a little stiffer and improve balance?

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Feb 16, 2007 - 12:04 AM

[Batman722]

just a quick question about the rear links, i just bought myself two sets (i thought putting 2 in the qty field would give me 2 links, not two pairs).. anyway, it seems that they can be adjusted.
would making them shorter make cornering a little stiffer and improve balance?

I think it might buyt don't quote me...I also think it would were out the bushing back there much quicker.

and if you want to get rid of one of those sets, I would be happy to take them off your hands

[azian_advanced]

bah.. my bushings are probably already done for. i hear clunks nearly every little bump.. one of these days, i'll have it all fixed..

in regards to the extra set of rear links, i was gonna wait and make a huge FS thread with all my spares, but i can let it go early. they're still in the bubble envelope and never touched.

[playr158]

i highly doubt making them shorter will change anything.

[GTS13]

Ok so I'm just guessing but I would think that changing the size wouldn't be the best idea since we're all trying to see if our OEMs are the same size so that they'll fit? What's the point of making sure they're the same size if you can just get any old size and use it?

This post has been edited by GTS13: Feb 16, 2007 - 4:49 PM

[playr158]

well the sway bar rotates up and down so you can make it longer or shorter and it could still very well fit....the performance of the sway bar is really a twisting motion as i see it (could be wrong)
but to gain any performance outta it the mounting point of the endlink has to be moved either farther in (stiffer) on the sway bar or farther out (softer)
up and down = not so much effect

[GTS13]

You are correct sir, twisting is what our sways do which is why we get thicker ones to help reduce the amount they bend. So the only thing I can think of to modify performance would be to make one endlink shorter so that the bar is somewhat bent and then you would have a little stiffer turning when trying to bend it more? or the other way? I think my logic might be a bit off, I've been working too long. lol. I'm gonna shut up now.

This post has been edited by GTS13: Feb 16, 2007 - 7:32 PM

[playr158]

i don't think you would want to offset the endlinks in length as the sway bar is designed to be level at normal ride..."preloading" it could cause adverse effects and potential tire wear possibly?

[brianforster]

is there any noticeable change in the aftermarket ones? or is it just like the if your gonna lower your car you mid as well throw these in and do it right type deal.

[azian_advanced]

maybe if you get aftermarket sway bars, you may as well change the links for these aftermarket ones while you're at it. these are so easy to install and remove.

[brianforster]

well im going to be lowering my car soon and i was thinking about buying these, but i dont really wanna just throw away 150$ bucks if i wont notice anything at all, but im pretty sure just by looking at them that it would show minor improvements in overall suspension feel.

[azian_advanced]

actually i haven't felt any noticeable difference.. i bought these links thinking that my old ones were the cause of my rear clunking all the time.. i guess i need new suspension arms.

btw, i don't think these endlinks create a noticeable increase in handling and stability.. as previously mentioned, they're just aftermarket OEM replacements. imo, you're better off putting that money for strut/sway bars if you're looking to stiffen your suspension.

[Batman722]

if you're getting clunking when going over any bumps (like something is knocking around back there) then it's more than likely the sway bar bushings, about $6 each from the dealer.

[brianforster]

i dont really wanna stiffen my suspension, i just get tons of horrid noises and vibrations that werent solved by a wheel balancing/rotation, so im trying to get the ride quality improved and im researching little by little

[Starcraftjunkie]

Would I save a lot of time/effort if I replace both the endlinks and the rear sway bushing at the same time?

[Batman722]

Would I save a lot of time/effort if I replace both the endlinks and the rear sway bushing at the same time?

sway bar bushing are easy, end links are a bit harder.

[azian_advanced]

if you're getting clunking when going over any bumps (like something is knocking around back there) then it's more than likely the sway bar bushings, about $6 each from the dealer.

i will try that, thanks.
just a quick question though, i've never taken a close look at those bushings, but would i have to unbolt the endlink-to-sway bar connection and slip the bushing through the sway bar? either way, i'll probably figure it out myself.

[Batman722]

if you're getting clunking when going over any bumps (like something is knocking around back there) then it's more than likely the sway bar bushings, about $6 each from the dealer.

i will try that, thanks.
just a quick question though, i've never taken a close look at those bushings, but would i have to unbolt the endlink-to-sway bar connection and slip the bushing through the sway bar? either way, i'll probably figure it out myself.

here's a quick link
http://www.colin99.co.uk/home_car.html

[snapshotgt]

Sway links work.

[urbandork]

Sway links work.

who do we talk to in ordering them?

and where can i get the bushings from? Would they come with the ST swaybars if i got the full set?

thanks

This post has been edited by urbandork: Feb 28, 2007 - 5:31 PM

[snapshotgt]

Call twosrus, and ask for Dave. Toll free: 1-(877)-328-9285

[urbandork]

Call twosrus, and ask for Dave. Toll free: 1-(877)-328-9285

that number was for an mr2 club thingy i left a mesg but i dont think it was the right number.

[playr158]

can't you just order off the twosrus website?

[snapshotgt]

Call twosrus, and ask for Dave. Toll free: 1-(877)-328-9285

that number was for an mr2 club thingy i left a mesg but i dont think it was the right number.

I got that number from the website .. i think they're the same thing - or something like that.

[eggman40]

so did anyone find out if the 185 front endlinks will work for our cars??

[Valo666]

will front end links from a SW20 work on our car??? I got a guy who lives 10 min away from me back in toronto whos got a set from twosrus for cheap.

[urbandork]

dave called me back and let me know that hes collecting the parts to get the links built and hopfully will have them on his site soon.

[Valo666]

i was on twosrus.com yesterday and they are listing them for the ST202 now. Time for me to order some up.

[baddisintegra]

i was on twosrus.com yesterday and they are listing them for the ST202 now. Time for me to order some up.

is there a discount on them or do we pay the full price...

i'm about to order my ST sways, along with installing my springs and most likely get these while i'm at it

[Valo666]

ordered mine..and no discounts..only person who got one was the first person to try em cuz they were the giunie pig. Should b here next week, will post pics when i get them.

[Davesceli]

Just to make sure...the front and rear links are compatible with our 6gen, right???

[snapshotgt]

Just to make sure...the front and rear links are compatible with our 6gen, right???

Yep, Dave has got the perfect setup.

[FORGMANN]

here you go ..

rears and fronts straight bolt on .. fronts are a tad bigger than oem but i dont think you will notice any diff

will driving

[bccentaur3]

Pure sex.

[baddisintegra]

i received my set friday...hopefully install them by this wknd

btw anyone know a good places/prices to get the ST sway bars? anyone have deals on them now?

[95celgt]

dam, these look cool, but i just ordered oem replacements for $30 shipped for the pair....stupid hex was stripped already when i started my bilstien strut-setup:(

[Batman722]

installed (rear)







^^ those are loosly fitted

then I tightened them and here's a shot 100% done

[elvasoshexai]

if you're getting clunking when going over any bumps (like something is knocking around back there) then it's more than likely the sway bar bushings, about $6 each from the dealer.

i was just wondering... didn't everyone's sway bar set come with new bushings/brackets? cause i think mine did... (was a while ago when i got them) i get some sounds in the rear when going over bumpy roads but i never looked into it bcuz it sounded like my spare tire jack

[urbandork]

ordered mine today woot woot.

[elvasoshexai]

crap... i completely forgot about this thread... i just bought new oem endlinks because mine were messed up after someone hit me...

i have ST sway bars. i know you can't feel it, but are they actually stronger so a stiffer sway bar won't cause it to wear/break as easily?

if so i think i'm gonna refund the ones i just bought and get these instead.

or since i got new ones anyway will they hold up just as good as these?

[Slick]

Was there a noticable difference when you installed them?

[netrata]

Did anyone install the front sway bar end links?