Intake add - Spiral Max, Has anyone else tried this? Options

[lipweb]

I just purchased 2 Spiral Max inserts for my Injen intake. I put them in yesterday and didn't notice much of a difference at first. I reset the computer and instantly noticed a difference when I took it out again. More power and torque. I even got pulled over by a concord cop. Guess I was having to much fun. I don't know about the gas mileage yet though.

I'll tell you this though. There is no more hesitation in the high RPM range.

Does anyone else have this product?

[Bitter]

all of those things could be caused by resetting the fuel trims.

[lipweb]

all of those things could be caused by resetting the fuel trims.

I thought the same thing at first, but I've reset my computer everytime I've added something and again recently before I added the Spiral Max.

It feels like a whole new car. It drives better and responds so much faster. Plus there is no hesitation in the RPM range.

Even with my exhaust and injen intake it still lagged from 5000-6200 rpms. Definately not now.

[devilsden97]

the car goes nuts when u reset the ecu....pm lewfx about the "power" when u reset your ecu, he either can explain it or will give u examples from him

[lipweb]

the car goes nuts when u reset the ecu....pm lewfx about the "power" when u reset your ecu, he either can explain it or will give u examples from him

What are you saying??

[LewFX]

o man, how did i get involved in this!
anytime you do anything to your intake system and leave the battery off or reset the ecu your car will fly for a day or two...its the feeling of a new car but after that it realizes that its a slower car then it thinks and it performs back to normal speed. if your spiral max keeps going for more than a week, let us know...maybe you found something we all havent...someone said the tornado works but maybe a 1/2 gain...just remember your car isnt as fast as we want it to be unless you pay over 2 grand to boost it. ive modified my injen as well but thats my lil secret.

[lipweb]

o man, how did i get involved in this!
anytime you do anything to your intake system and leave the battery off or reset the ecu your car will fly for a day or two...its the feeling of a new car but after that it realizes that its a slower car then it thinks and it performs back to normal speed. if your spiral max keeps going for more than a week, let us know...maybe you found something we all havent...someone said the tornado works but maybe a 1/2 gain...just remember your car isnt as fast as we want it to be unless you pay over 2 grand to boost it. ive modified my injen as well but thats my lil secret.

Ok - first thing - I'm dieing to know what you did to your intake. What's that little secret? 2nd - I hope that these things last because i'm having a blast with the extra power gain and I've been driving it all day and the gas needle has barely moved. I'll tell you this if in a week it's still working then I'm buying some for my Eclipse GT too!
Plus if in a week it doesn't work i'll just return it with the money back guarentee.

[j0e_p3t]

what's a spiral max?

[devilsden97]

o man, how did i get involved in this!
anytime you do anything to your intake system and leave the battery off or reset the ecu your car will fly for a day or two...its the feeling of a new car but after that it realizes that its a slower car then it thinks and it performs back to normal speed. if your spiral max keeps going for more than a week, let us know...maybe you found something we all havent...someone said the tornado works but maybe a 1/2 gain...just remember your car isnt as fast as we want it to be unless you pay over 2 grand to boost it. ive modified my injen as well but thats my lil secret.

from what uve told me, it seems lame to me...but i could be mistaken

[Bitter]

what's a spiral max?

a tornado...but different!

[jdg371]

I have the same feeling with my car after a light rain.. When the atmosphere is cool.. hehe

[Shocker]

here what i did to my intake system

[Shocker]

when i removed my air box in the fender i got some 3 inch aluminum flex pipe..and ran iit from the front bumper throught the fender and connected it to where the air box in the fender connected to the air filter box and that just so happens to be where i have my heat sheild over it and all cool the air blows in it from me driving and i dont have a bad throttel response from have such a long intake pipe so its kinda like a cold air intake..prolly not much hp gain but i thought it couldnt hurt..also i noticed all day of driving my engin bay was hot as hell but my heat sheild was very cool so must have done something right..
call me lame if you want..but us celica owners try to squeez as much performance into our car as we can ya know..lol

This post has been edited by Shocker: Aug 25, 2006 - 11:01 PM

[devilsden97]

^ i might have to try that

[LewFX]

your filter is gonna get air coming from all over anyways...now if you make a heat box for it then it might change things...
i couldnt do that setup since i got fogs.

This post has been edited by LewFX: Aug 25, 2006 - 11:10 PM

[devilsden97]

show us your set up

[LewFX]

muwahaha, top secret til the meet

[Shocker]

your filter is gonna get air coming from all over anyways...now if you make a heat box for it then it might change things...
i couldnt do that setup since i got fogs.

what you cant see is that i have the aluminum going around the other side of the heat sheild to so it only getting hot air when im not moving when i do move it fills up with the cool air andim good to go..i didnt want to completely enclose for fear in lose of throttle respone...this was really kind of pointless though cuz ill be turboed by the end of the month

This post has been edited by Shocker: Aug 25, 2006 - 11:24 PM

[devilsden97]

muwahaha, top secret til the meet

im gonna **** u up

[Shocker]

yea i wanna see what it is too..i wont be at the meet

[LewFX]

o cmon now, nothing to see but a c-one strut brace, ooooo aaaaa, no one wants to see my "heat box"!!

[Shocker]

um...........yea..... i do lol

and would it be ok ife i did this kind of thing when i ihave my filter on my turbo like have the cool aair blowing on it or heck just make a box or somting

This post has been edited by Shocker: Aug 26, 2006 - 12:38 AM

[lipweb]

o cmon now, nothing to see but a c-one strut brace, ooooo aaaaa, no one wants to see my "heat box"!!

So for us who don't go to the meet... Are you going to tell us after?? I've gotta know!

um...........yea..... i do lol

and would it be ok ife i did this kind of thing when i ihave my filter on my turbo like have the cool aair blowing on it or heck just make a box or somting

So is the extra pipe attached to the filter or just positioned under it?

[Shocker]

it positionrd IN the heat sheild but not to the filter

[lipweb]

I'm on day 3 now and my celica is running better than yesterday. Power is still strong and I can already see a change in the gas mileage. I think this thing works!!

[LewFX]

here is my engine bay

[devilsden97]

nice lew. Fully adjustable C-One Strut brace

[hitcachi]

holy clean! Nice work tho. And was that your secret. Your custom made cold air box thingy.

This post has been edited by hitcachi: Aug 28, 2006 - 10:33 AM

[LewFX]

ya the "heat box"!!! and i made a hole on the top of the filter and put a screen on it for more air flow

This post has been edited by LewFX: Aug 28, 2006 - 10:40 AM

[6gcSTVT]

what did you make that heat box out of? And Shocker... could we get a pic of the piping that extends the stock air pipe through the fender?

[LewFX]

corrugated plastic

[hitcachi]

actually I'll bet with the c-one CF hood, you get really good airflow into the heat box.

[pure_dx]

its all in your head lipweb, or............prove us wrong and dyno it, one time with it and one time without

[kenjamatic]

i have a tornado in my intake system...i'll admit that it does improve slightly and not all that ...after a few months i decided to take it out and there was a slight lag in the mid range ....on top of everything i never reset the ecu or taken off the battery terminals until i got my headers a couple months ago...the heat box is a good idea though...i think if you really want power then it's best off to boost...

This post has been edited by kenjamatic: Aug 28, 2006 - 12:08 PM

[lipweb]

its all in your head lipweb, or............prove us wrong and dyno it, one time with it and one time without

Don't worry about the dyno. I'm a month away from that. I'll tell you that it's not in my head when I can see that on day 4 my rpms are hitting 6and 1/2 rpms when I could barely hit 6 before. The car picks up much harder at 3000 rpms. I could barely feel it before. I'm giving it a week though just to see what my gas mileage will be. My average is 347 a tank with my driving style. If it hits over that then it's worth every penny.

[lipweb]

i have a tornado in my intake system...i'll admit that it does improve slightly and not all that ...after a few months i decided to take it out and there was a slight lag in the mid range ....on top of everything i never reset the ecu or taken off the battery terminals until i got my headers a couple months ago...the heat box is a good idea though...i think if you really want power then it's best off to boost...

I have to agree with that but every little horse counts until you get the boost.

[LewFX]

actually I'll bet with the c-one CF hood, you get really good airflow into the heat box.

i know she whistles when i accelerate...not sure about the airflow from the hood.

[devilsden97]

actually I'll bet with the c-one CF hood, you get really good airflow into the heat box.

i know she whistles when i accelerate...not sure about the airflow from the hood.

mine whistles too at about 5k till redline...sounds like a turbo spooling.

[Bitter]

i hate to say it, but the geo has the same 'turbo' sound at the top end of its power band. but im sure its much less with my mostly stock intake.

[Negative]

ya the "heat box"!!! and i made a hole on the top of the filter and put a screen on it for more air flow

You do know they sell them like that right? I got one for my ex-girls tC and it whistles all through the RPM range anytime you increase throttle. The ones I buy have a second smaller cone inverted in the middle for increased intake area. Either will make a LITTLE throttle response diff. A friend of mine tried the Tornado thing and I'm inclined to agree with the resetting of the ECU explanation. After a few days it was no faster or more fuel efficient than before. If you want gains like this that you can actually feel and play with: get a SAFCII and have it tuned on a wideband o2 at minimum by someone who actually knows what they are doing. I did and I felt REAL gains that can be measured at the track - where it counts. Obviously a dyno tune would be way better.
Should say I have not even checked out theSpiral Max though. Good luck. Hope it actually does something. As stated above: Even if it's only an increase in gas mileage that would be worth it in this day and age.