alltrac still no go :( Options

[MaskedMan]

Ok i have a dilema, i have not been able to sell my Alltrac, the best, and pretty much only offer i got was from this guy wanting to trade me his 92 miata for it. My Alltrac doesn't run and all, but do you think it would be a even or if anything a good idea to trade?

nonrunning this....


for running this....?


This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 17, 2006 - 5:51 AM

[saleeka]

depends on the condition of the Miata... IMO Miatas are beyond fun, i've tinkered with the idea of owning one for years, but the winters here would be brutal in that car, and im 6'1, so it's not exactly roomy...

[j0e_p3t]

seems like a downgrade to me. but then again, your alltrac ain't getting you anywhere... literally. i say keep trying to figure out what's wrong with it and try to get it to work. take it to a toyota dealer or what-not.

[snapshotgt]

I would not do it.

[sinner96ST]

they're fun but a running alltrac > miata, any day of the week.

doesn't seem like a legit trade, you could probably score a miata for cheap if you saved up your pennies, even a used one wouldn't cost you that much. they've still been making miatas, the same can't be said about the alltrac.

then again, it's your choice. i know what it's like to have a car that isn't running and requires a lot of work - it's easier to get rid of it then to fix it up.

[MaskedMan]

The miata also has low milage for a 92. it has 77k miles on it. I would love to get my Alltrac running and would take an alltrac anyday, but at the same time i dont even want to put any more money into it cuase i need money to pay for insurance and what not on the the BMW. If only i KNEW what was wrong with it, and knew how much money it would take it fix it... . I most likely wouldn't get the Miata to drive, but i would just get the Miata to sell it, becuase i figured a running car would be easier to sell. The Alltrac is near impossible to sell in this condition, or maybe im just asking too much cuz im so attached to it .

[IdiotStick]

Did you seek help on here as to why the ****er aint runnin? Im sure we could help you determine the problem, man.

[MaskedMan]

Well it's just hard to exactly describe the problem online. I say we call a 6gc "fix my Alltrac" meet haha.

[sinner96ST]

is alltrac.net still up? you could try over there, or search for some kind of GT-4 forum to ask questions...

not to disrespect, but this is the wrong forum to ask extremely technical questions about turbo'd AWD cars, most of us are used to our little econobox FWD usdm celica's.

edit: http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/

check that out and ask around on there, those guys would know more about your car & it's quriks.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Aug 31, 2006 - 9:01 PM

[jgreening]

You have another daily driver? Then keep the alltrac. It is going to be a collector car soon! - especially if its a 93. My prediction is that the value on a good condition 93 will exceed 30k in about 10 years.

[MaskedMan]

my Alltrac is a 91, sorry if i posted anywhere that it was a 93. 93's are very rare, weren't there under 100 93 models sold? I have an account on Alltrac.net (same name-MaskedMan), and im actually trying to sell it there and it's where i got the offer for the miata. I think im going to pull it off the for sale list, and just try to fix it again.

[airfron]

my Alltrac is a 91, sorry if i posted anywhere that it was a 93. 93's are very rare, weren't there under 100 93 models sold? I have an account on Alltrac.net (same name-MaskedMan), and im actually trying to sell it there and it's where i got the offer for the miata. I think im going to pull it off the for sale list, and just try to fix it again.

that is a better idea imo

you might be able to get more out of it then a miata..

or be able to fix it easily, keep it, and have fun with awd once again

[MaskedMan]

ok haha this puts me back to square one haha. It's just a pain in the butt cuase even if i do a JDM engine swap to it, it prolly still will have problems cuase i know my engine itself is good. haha ugh i have no idea what look at next. Maybe i'll tow it to school and have my teacher take a look at it. poop.

[asg14]

My friend has the same car. IM me on AIM and I'll see if you can get some help.

[creamed_corn]

Someone is willing to trade you a low-mileage Miata for something that doesn't run.


You're crazy if you don't take the offer.

[hitcachi]

Someone is willing to trade you a low-mileage Miata for something that doesn't run.


You're crazy if you don't take the offer.

bull sh*t. dont do the trade. get the AWD TURBOCHARGED car running as opposed to taking the easy way out and buying some ugly piece of scrap metal that is doing nothing but decreasing in value every year, as opposed to the all trac which, as is gets older and rare, will appreaciate in value. Also, the all trac is just as fun. Its light and nimble and its AWD to boot. +1 for the all trac!

[MaskedMan]

Someone is willing to trade you a low-mileage Miata for something that doesn't run.


You're crazy if you don't take the offer.

bull sh*t. dont do the trade. get the AWD TURBOCHARGED car running as opposed to taking the easy way out and buying some ugly piece of scrap metal that is doing nothing but decreasing in value every year, as opposed to the all trac which, as is gets older and rare, will appreaciate in value. Also, the all trac is just as fun. Its light and nimble and its AWD to boot. +1 for the all trac!

thanks for the input everyone , I will just have to find some other way to pay for stuff. Atleast im not in debt..yet. =X. haha. Well i have been trying to get help from Alltrac.net but like it's just hard to get help from people that aren't here in person. The people there are great knowledgable people, but i have no idea who can help me, becuase most of if not all the people i knew with Alltracs have sold them and moved on .

My friend has the same car. IM me on AIM and I'll see if you can get some help. smile.gif

thanks man, i'll IM you in a bit.

[97sccelica]

ok, found out whats wrong

electrical problems.

i'll take a blown motor over electrical problems any day.

as for the trade, i honestly we go into the garage and test every single wire on the car before i give up. after that, swap out the ecu and injectors

This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Sep 1, 2006 - 12:18 AM

[Akimbo]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

[mbaran]

/\ yeah, cause i'd buy it.

[MaskedMan]

whats wrong with the car?

Well let's see...

Car smokes a lot from exhuast, smells like fuel. Oil smells like fuel and i just changed the oil.

Car will start up fine but will not idle unless you give it throttle. New plugs, and i have an MSD high vibration coil installed. I know the car is getting spark, originally i thought it was a coil or igniter problem cuase i wasn't getting spark, but then found out it was just a grounding issue. I still think i have a grounding issue becuase for some reason when i have the distributor turned all the way advance and then i try to start the car, the thin ground that connects to the alternator will heat up and smoke. I am suspecting the ground behind the intake manifold to be the culprit but havent been able to check it out since its in such a tight space. With all the white smoke out of the exhuast i thought that it could have been burning coolant, so i suspected headgasket/low compression. But then i checked compression and it is 150psi on all 4 cylinders. This isn't PERFECT, but the car should still run fine. Sooo i pretty much narrowed it down to a fuel problem. It's just pouring it in there like there's no tomorrow. I could check for leaky injectors, and i have a whole nother set that i could try, but it's going to be some work to switch them since it's like way down there. And i dont think they are leaking, but something is activating them due to a short or something. There is a broken wire that looks like it connects to some sort of sensor, but i have posted pictures on Alltrac.net and i had a mechanic look at my car and no one was able to help me out on that or tell me what the sensor was or what it did. There is also another broken wire but it is a different color that the wire leading to that sensor so i do not believe they go together. I am getting check engine code #21 i believe, the one that says there's something about my AFM.

[burneeed]

hrrrmmm... well how much where you asking for your at?

[asg14]

He's keeping it now!

[MaskedMan]

hrrrmmm... well how much where you asking for your at?

i was asking 4k. i think i have it set at $4400 on Alltrac.net but wouldve went down alot lower had someone actually even given me an offer for it. I prolly wouldve sold it for 3k =X with a spare 3sgte parts engine, cuase i was that desperate for the money. But i don't think im selling it anymores. =/.

[CelicaGT04]

No.

[airfron]

No.

don't worry guy

i don't think he's gonna do it...

i hope




gl with getting that thing running MaskedMan

[MaskedMan]

thanks guys for the input and advice, i just had second thoughts when i had people telling me my car is pretty much worthless, when i get no offers for it but a miata (not to say miatas are bad cars), and then having a guy with a stock ae86 tell me that my car isn't as good as his. Im just like wth... I mean, i like ae86's but in my opinion the price of them has skyrocketed to an unreasonable price now, and some of their owners are becomming full of themselves. No offense to anyone owning one, cuase there are a lot of 86 owners that are really nice people, about 5 of my friends have them. but ugh some can be quite mean , but i guess you'll get that with any car. Anyways im getting off topic. Thanks for all the support guys, and hopefully i can get this Alltrac running

[IdiotStick]

Im not trying to start something, but since we on the topic for Miata's...


http://www.monstermiata.com/

[Mynzeyes]

30k dollars for a 93 all-trac!

[boosted_K2]

im currently 5 points behind a miata in ES for the season... damn miatas...

alltracs arent as "light and nimble" as you may think. i smoke my buddy in his street alltrac at the autocrosses (was ~250WHP), he also is a rally driver in another alltrac, so its not like he doesnt know how to handle the car.

[hitcachi]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

when it comes to celica or xxx vehicle, im really not bias at all. I'll tell you straight up, but i just hate miatas.

[Rjb23]

Have you checked your resister packs or FPR?

[MaskedMan]

Have you checked your resister packs or FPR?

no i havent, i have no idea what to check about them or what tools i need to do it, since i have only a few basic tools.

[Chanh55]

Where did you get that alltrac from?

[asg14]

We spent a while talking last night and he said it was pulling CEL #21, AFM. It also is pumping in gas to no end. My guess is the AFM is bad. Anyone have any input?

[Akimbo]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

when it comes to celica or xxx vehicle, im really not bias at all. I'll tell you straight up, but i just hate miatas.

Why?

[MaskedMan]

We spent a while talking last night and he said it was pulling CEL #21, AFM. It also is pumping in gas to no end. My guess is the AFM is bad. Anyone have any input?

actually i went back to some of my old posts on Alltrac.net, and it looks like i pulled codes 31 and 24. Sorry for the mistake, but it's still for AFM.

Where did you get that alltrac from?

I got the Alltrac from a guy in Pomona named Jose.

This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 1, 2006 - 12:11 PM

[Chanh55]

My first guess is the AFM as well... I was having similar problems as you, changed the AFM and all was well.

You should check the boards Alltrac boards and pick one up. One question... why don't you find a mechanic to take a look at it?

[asg14]

Found this on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFM-AirFlow...sspagenameZWDVW

[Chanh55]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFM-AirFlow...022733309QQrdZ1

[asg14]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFM-AirFlow...022733309QQrdZ1

I beat you by a few seconds Great minds think alike.

[MaskedMan]

I had a mechanic look at it, and i was very disappointed by his "work". My family pretty much all drives toyotas, so my aunt said that she would ask her toyota mechanic guy come over and check it out. I wasnt exspecting him to come over and magically fix it. But we scheduled a time for him to come over. So that time came and then he had to reschedule, ok so no big deal. And then when he does come over, he like brings his whole family over, and like looks under my hood, and just asks me like, "did you check spark? fuel?" whatnot pretty much everything ive been looking at for months, but yeah i understand he wasn't there and he was just trying to get an understanding. So then he starts connecting some of the broken wires together and told me that sometimes it will fix the problem, but im like "but those wires aren't even the same color..." Then he tells me to just do a JDM swap to it. And he's like, i can't fix this, and he leaves. It's not like i wasn't paying him or anything. I could understand if i asked him to do it for free or as a favor, but when i was paying to him, he help me out with something atleast ya know? Sorry bout the rant.

and about the AFM, it's a good price, but how can i be sure if it works? Cuase i can see a lot of sealant on top of it, and usually i only see that if someone has taken the AFM apart in attempt to fix it or something. But hey, i could be wrong, i'll have to consider it and take a chance if i ever want to get this car running.

This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 1, 2006 - 3:10 PM

[Chanh55]

Get it towed to my place. They'll get it working.

[MaskedMan]

Get it towed to my place. They'll get it working.

Any idea what it would cost me to get it working?? Celica doesn't like to sit on the street, it gets dirty, and i had to take some of the lights off and bring them inside cuase someone tried to steal them before >=(. See, it's sitting there all sad =(.



sorry for the random pic, but i just washed the bimmer and was taking pics. im going back out now cuase it's the celicas turn for a bath. it might not run, but that doesn't mean it can't be sexy too!

[Rjb23]

Have you tried posting on mr2oc.com? A 3s is a 3s, and all trac.net is never much help when I post over there, I find mr2oc to be a much better place, and maybe you can find someone in so cal with a mr2 or alltrac to come over and hook their afm up and see if that is your problem or not. I kinda think you need to ditch your aftermarket coil and get a oem one.

[MaskedMan]

Have you tried posting on mr2oc.com? A 3s is a 3s, and all trac.net is never much help when I post over there, I find mr2oc to be a much better place, and maybe you can find someone in so cal with a mr2 or alltrac to come over and hook their afm up and see if that is your problem or not. I kinda think you need to ditch your aftermarket coil and get a oem one.

I still have the OEM one and i can splice the connector back on. I made sure to cut it off so i could have enough wire to do so just incase i wanted to switch back . I got ripped off a few times on Alltrac.net and it was kinda upsetting. I asked people for help and they were like, "Oh i have that part, i can help you out." and then i would end up buying it, and then the part i get isn't even the right part for the car. Like when i wanted another OEM coil and ignitor to try. This guy said he had one from his 91 Alltrac that he did a swap to, so im like ok and i bought it, and he sent it to me and it looks like he sent me one off a different toyota. Im not sure, but it definatly was not for my alltrac and the coil wire wouldn't even plug into it. He was giving me excuses on the late shipment too, like "oh i have the ignitor, but i cant find the coil right now, give me a few more days". But the thing was when i recieved them, they were connected together, and you could tell from the screws that they were never even separated. Another guy sold me a steering column that "would fit for sure", i got it, took my old one out, try to bolt the new one in, and it does not even line up the same way. I never heard from either of them again. So this is the only reason why im skepticle when buying used parts from people . i've had bad experiences. sorry for the rant again =/. i just got in from washing the celica, and now that i seen it clean again.. there's no way i can let it go.. hahaha

But i might check out MRoc.com. i have never been there before, but i heard that there are some very knowledgable people over there. thanks for the advice.

btw.. hehe, i know it's off topic completely, but here's a pic of my celi after the bath and with the lights in




sigh... why wont she run... sniffle..


EDIT: hey i found a picture of that sensor with the broken wire i took awhile back. It's that sensor on the top left of the picture, if you follow the wire you can see that it connects to a connector, and the other end connects to nothing. And you can see the other broken wire poping out of the loom. touching these two wires together does nothing to affect how the car runs becuase ive tried it. The wires are also not the same color so they prolly don't even go together (but i could be wrong). If you cant tell where this is located at, it is located on the right side of the engine (looking from the front) right in front of the distributor. Does anybody know what sensor that is?



This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 1, 2006 - 7:47 PM

[slvr_celica_GT_8...]

calica alltracs are sick i hope you get yours running again man.

[DomGT]

I say keep the Celica and get her running, I know pay for diagnosis sucks, but it's a great car (much better than a Miata).

With that said, a friend of mine sold his early 90s 170whp turbo miata, and has been regretting it ever since.

[MaskedMan]

I say keep the Celica and get her running, I know pay for diagnosis sucks, but it's a great car (much better than a Miata).

With that said, a friend of mine sold his early 90s 170whp turbo miata, and has been regretting it ever since.

Hahah everytime i see an early 90's miata, i think of the movie "Cars" hahaha. i saw a really nice looking miata when i was out today. it was lowered and was like a gun metal color. the only thing i don't like is the convertible top rear window, im not a fan of soft plastic rear window, but i also wouldnt spend the money for the hard top haha. I like my celica vert's glass rear window . But the decision is im keeping the Alltrac (unless i get like a really amazing offer for it hahaha)

This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 2, 2006 - 12:29 AM

[creamed_corn]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

I didn't wanna say it, but I agree with you. Waaaay too much bias for the altrac on this site because kids see "AWD" and "turbo" and automatically think it's god. I love celicas, I love Altracs, but I'm willing to admit it's too heavy and underpowered for what it is, and that AWD is faaaaar more overrated than most people make it out to be. Then throw in the fact that Miatas are very very good at what they do, and it's really no competition.

Yea the altrac is sexy, yea it's rare, yea it's more than most ricers have; it's a special car..... but that doesn't make it superior. If the darn thing isn't running, I'd be all over that Miata, because cars come and go, and you'll be far better off and happier in the long run knowing you tried some of everything.

[Rjb23]

Have you tried posting on mr2oc.com? A 3s is a 3s, and all trac.net is never much help when I post over there, I find mr2oc to be a much better place, and maybe you can find someone in so cal with a mr2 or alltrac to come over and hook their afm up and see if that is your problem or not. I kinda think you need to ditch your aftermarket coil and get a oem one.

I still have the OEM one and i can splice the connector back on. I made sure to cut it off so i could have enough wire to do so just incase i wanted to switch back . I got ripped off a few times on Alltrac.net and it was kinda upsetting. I asked people for help and they were like, "Oh i have that part, i can help you out." and then i would end up buying it, and then the part i get isn't even the right part for the car. Like when i wanted another OEM coil and ignitor to try. This guy said he had one from his 91 Alltrac that he did a swap to, so im like ok and i bought it, and he sent it to me and it looks like he sent me one off a different toyota. Im not sure, but it definatly was not for my alltrac and the coil wire wouldn't even plug into it. He was giving me excuses on the late shipment too, like "oh i have the ignitor, but i cant find the coil right now, give me a few more days". But the thing was when i recieved them, they were connected together, and you could tell from the screws that they were never even separated. Another guy sold me a steering column that "would fit for sure", i got it, took my old one out, try to bolt the new one in, and it does not even line up the same way. I never heard from either of them again. So this is the only reason why im skepticle when buying used parts from people . i've had bad experiences. sorry for the rant again =/. i just got in from washing the celica, and now that i seen it clean again.. there's no way i can let it go.. hahaha

But i might check out MRoc.com. i have never been there before, but i heard that there are some very knowledgable people over there. thanks for the advice.

btw.. hehe, i know it's off topic completely, but here's a pic of my celi after the bath and with the lights in




sigh... why wont she run... sniffle..


EDIT: hey i found a picture of that sensor with the broken wire i took awhile back. It's that sensor on the top left of the picture, if you follow the wire you can see that it connects to a connector, and the other end connects to nothing. And you can see the other broken wire poping out of the loom. touching these two wires together does nothing to affect how the car runs becuase ive tried it. The wires are also not the same color so they prolly don't even go together (but i could be wrong). If you cant tell where this is located at, it is located on the right side of the engine (looking from the front) right in front of the distributor. Does anybody know what sensor that is?

That sensor is the tempature gauge sensor. That doesn't effect how it runs. I would fix those wires and then find someone with an mr2t or alltrac and swap out afm, coil etc.. till you find the problem.

[hitcachi]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

I didn't wanna say it, but I agree with you. Waaaay too much bias for the altrac on this site because kids see "AWD" and "turbo" and automatically think it's god. I love celicas, I love Altracs, but I'm willing to admit it's too heavy and underpowered for what it is, and that AWD is faaaaar more overrated than most people make it out to be. Then throw in the fact that Miatas are very very good at what they do, and it's really no competition.

Yea the altrac is sexy, yea it's rare, yea it's more than most ricers have; it's a special car..... but that doesn't make it superior. If the darn thing isn't running, I'd be all over that Miata, because cars come and go, and you'll be far better off and happier in the long run knowing you tried some of everything.

your totally right. If its broke and not running, dont even try to put any effort or anything into it. Because anything that you have to put some time into isnt worth it anymore. God forbid you should ever have to try to get something the way you want it.

[MaskedMan]

thanks for all the info guys, im going to see if i can find an mr2 or Alltrac guy and see if he can lend me his AFM to try.

[Glitch001]

If your in no rush, you can borrow mine sometime next week. I wont be needing it anymore. just make sure you dont unscrew the side clips ONLY pull it out, thats the biggest mistake people make.

[MaskedMan]

If your in no rush, you can borrow mine sometime next week. I wont be needing it anymore. just make sure you dont unscrew the side clips ONLY pull it out, thats the biggest mistake people make.

i can wait . thanks i bunch! i will not unscrew the clip. i ASSUME thats what the previous owner did, becuase it looks like the screws on the AFM have that nice slightly stripped look Im in no rush at all

[Glitch001]

that damages the insides, if it was only slightly removed it could be damaged. my firends mr2 did that, it ran like ass randomly turning off and on. but when the screwed were removed, thing never ran. In the end you want to sell it, if my financial situation is in order, id like to purchase it to. Either way, it would be cool to help you get it running agian.

This post has been edited by Glitch001: Sep 3, 2006 - 12:40 PM

[MaskedMan]

that damages the insides, if it was only slightly removed it could be damaged. my firends mr2 did that, it ran like ass randomly turning off and on. but when the screwed were removed, thing never ran. In the end you want to sell it, if my financial situation is in order, id like to purchase it to. Either way, it would be cool to help you get it running agian.

Thanks, any help is greatly appreciated. In the end im looking to sell/trade this Alltrac becuase i've always wanted a white one instead .

[GMan]

The repair manuals are online at CelicaTech.com.
Or you could Buy the paper manuals ?
Great to have the diagnostic steps at your finger tip.

Wiring diagrams are Priceless too.
The ST185 has the wire locations and wire color codes.

The unconnected blue/red wire makes me nervous.

Grounds are a Real PITA. A bit of rust and you car
may not start or run right.

Start with the simple cheap and keep trying. Good luck,

Regards;

[MaskedMan]

The repair manuals are online at CelicaTech.com.
Or you could Buy the paper manuals ?
Great to have the diagnostic steps at your finger tip.

Wiring diagrams are Priceless too.
The ST185 has the wire locations and wire color codes.

The unconnected blue/red wire makes me nervous.

Grounds are a Real PITA. A bit of rust and you car
may not start or run right.

Start with the simple cheap and keep trying. Good luck,

Regards;

Thanks for the advice , i have no idea where to start on finding out which blue wire that is for though. I have the EWD, and i have both of the BGBs for the 1991 celicas. Those books have gotten me this far, even though the car still doesn't run, it has come a long way from when i purchased it. The problem im facing is that the is EWD divided up into sections. And then from there it helps you diagnose the problem. However, i have no idea what section that blue wire is found under. It could be under fuel control, under engine management, ignition, or even just a light. I have no clue, but there could be a blue wire under all of the diagrams. Do you think that it's time for me to just start cutting loom and follow that wire somewhere? But then again...where is the other end of the wire? so confusing...

[Rjb23]

I would first check that sensor that has the crappy connector coming off of it and see where that goes to in the ecu then get a multi meter and hook it up to that blue wire and see if you get a connection to that pin on the ecu. It looks like to me that the wire with the crappy connector is supposed to be attached to that blue wire.

Also I would test your AFM with a multi meter and see if it checks out per the bgb if not you might as well open it up and see what is going on and if you can fix it, if its busted you need a new one anyway and you can't bust it more.

[MaskedMan]

ok well i completely lost contact with the guy that said i could borrow his AFM. so im AFMless at the moment. i PM'd him but i got no reply . Right now i don't have money for one, but i would like to know if it's really my problem or not... Im afraid my neighbors are going to start to complain that the car's been sitting on the street for so long....

[creamed_corn]

ok well i completely lost contact with the guy that said i could borrow his AFM. so im AFMless at the moment. i PM'd him but i got no reply . Right now i don't have money for one, but i would like to know if it's really my problem or not... Im afraid my neighbors are going to start to complain that the car's been sitting on the street for so long....

The street is public domain.

As long as your car is satisfying all local parking regulations they can complain all they want to no success.

Now if it was sitting in your lawn and causing an eyesore, then, THEN (retardedly enough) they would have rights to file a complaint with the community.... but it's such a pretty car, how could they complain?

[MaskedMan]

well it looks nice and pretty to us haha, but my neighbors might see it another way haha. It would be nice to get it up and running asap though, before any complaints start coming even if they can't do anything about it, i would rather avoid the drama.

[creamed_corn]

well it looks nice and pretty to us haha, but my neighbors might see it another way haha. It would be nice to get it up and running asap though, before any complaints start coming even if they can't do anything about it, i would rather avoid the drama.

Kind of a dumb thing, any kind of neighboring influence that devalues your property is grounds for a [successful] lawsuit (for insance if you had seven rusty cars parked withing five feet of your neighbors lawn). I saw this a lot growing up in Wisconsin, where some farmer would put in a manure pit and the wind would carry the smell a quarter mile down the road and stink up the neighbors home, and in turn the farmer would get sued.

But I wouldn't worry. I live in downtown chicago now and there's a Subaru SVX that has been parked right in front of my building (the sweetest spot) for the past four months and it hasn't moved an inch. The car is still there, and no one has done anything (not even a key scratch).

[MaskedMan]

i was kinda worried that someone backed up into the side of car, cuase from the reflection it looked dented in, but i can't even tell cuase the car has too many curves on it the reflections are all weird already haha.