Feeler: Importing ST205 (and others) to US Options

[slyd]

I am thinking of starting a company geared towards importing otherwise unobtainable cars, engines, and parts to the US. The 6gen GT-4, of course, is one of these. Also Nissan S15 Silvias, R32 and R34 Sylines, and other Japanese and European goodies that due to DOT and EPA restrictions are not importable. I already know all the laws and rules and have formulated a method for doing this legally. And it's not easy, there is a lot you have to do to keep them completely legal and road-safe. A few questions, though. 1. How much would you be willing to pay for an ST205? 2. What other cars would you recommend? 3. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

[QuintinGT]

If you could really do it, that would be awsome. For a stock one I would pay 14,000-16,000 maybe I dont
know. How much would It cost to import them?

[chacha]

stock...no more than 5-6K....because you can get them cheap dirt money....our models are old...

[playr158]

i'd like a st205 rear cut

[MaskedMan]

well if your importing r32s and r34s, i think i would take one of those to be honest.

[j0e_p3t]

to be able to legally drive a gt-four in the u.s., i'd pay a lot.

[jdg371]

to be able to legally drive a gt-four in the u.s., i'd pay a lot.

Alright.. let me buy a ST185 and sell it to you for 10x how much I got it!

[94_st_hatchback]

to be able to legally drive a gt-four in the u.s., i'd pay a lot.

Alright.. let me buy a ST185 and sell it to you for 10x how much I got it!

LOL!, yeah i would consider buying a skyline too if you were able to get them

[block]

i was thinking about shipping just the shell over as a car-kit...then ship the engine in later. would that work? i heard that shipping the shell over is the best option..then after u get it, put it together but the dash has to be on lhd..iono about insurance. ehehe lie!

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

FYI:

Theres already a company in the United States that does just this. They get their hands on whatever imported vehicle that you are willing to pay for. The company is called Evolution Imports out of Orlando, Florida and they import many vehicles into North America directly to their lot and are for sale, ready to buy and drive legally.

If you're serious about getting a genuine JDM import, they're the absolute best. They sold a silver 1995 GT-Four for around 19 grand last year if I recall correctly, it was on their site for a while for sale right on their lot in Orlando with a complete registration and everything.

[block]

but the thing is, some states are strict and wont allow certain cars (cough* minnesota)...maybe just leave it in the garage and look at it...i wouldn't mind doing that...

[robdrummer]

if u no how i can get a rear end for my orange celica aka dg's let me no

[Celiracer18]

i wouldnt mind having a GT-4 and an S15 (also maybe an FTO.... that would be something you dont see everyday)

[slyd]

Block, your almost on the right track, but doing it that way violates EPA Regulations. And the EPA will hurt you just for the fun of it.

When I finish importing a vehicle, it will be mechanically sound, cosmeticly excellent, street ready, road worthy, EPA and DOT legal, VINed, registerable, and insurable. And once they have been registered in one state, they are fully transferable to any other, as long as it passes emissions(generally California is left out on this one, but it can be done...$$$). Also, vehicles can legally be left or right hand drive in the US. Left hand conversion would cost extra because of the fabrication required.

Yes you can buy used JDM vehicles on their home market fairly inexpensively. Yes, they could be imported for roughly 5-8k if you plan to only use them for show or race. ***I do not do things illegal and will not be party to any questions as such.*** But if you do plan to show or race only, I can help there, too.

But, it costs me roughly 10-15k to import most vehicles and do it legally. I am building a network of exporters and buyers that can get nearly any vehicle. And if you find a car overseas you want to import, I would be willing to work with you to see it done. Also I plan to run a parts house and shop to round out the business. That way I can do LHD conversion and other customizations at a much lower expense.

For ST205 I was thinking roughly 13-20k depending on year, modifications, and what I can get them for. The Celica is what started my import obsession, and I like the forum, so I'll make minimal profit on the GT-4's and other vehicles sold to 6gc members. I would charge more for other, more popular vehicles like Skyline and Silvia, late models such as NSX and RX-7, rarities such as GT-4 WRC Group A and NSX-R MR, not to mention expensive European toys like TVRs, Maseratis, and Ferarris.

This post has been edited by slyd: Oct 1, 2006 - 9:53 PM

[celica47]

hmmmm iam pretty interested. i want more info bro whenever you get it

[FORGMANN]

well if you all are willing to spend 14,000 + for a st205 ..hmm..

so tempting to sell but thrill of driving my own st205 is priceless ..







This post has been edited by FORGMANN: Oct 1, 2006 - 10:02 PM

[block]

LMK on how this goes.

[uberschall]

i wouldn't want to drive a rhd car everyday...but i would be all over a lhd st205...thing is, idk if they were ever offered anywhere in the world. i could do up to maybe 15. over that and we're too close to the price of a nice used (or new, for that matter) us market car.

seems that you've thought this over pretty well...but are you planning to get into p&a as well, seeing as you said you wanted to make sure every car was tip-top before sale? because i think you'd quickly find that it's much more lucrative to deal in parts alone than entire cars. i think you have to either sell cars, as-is...or parts...but doing both is going to be hugely diffcult, imo.

[block]

man i'd take a real gt-four over any car in the US! its rare and awd! but that's just me.

[SinisterWhisper]

I would be willing to pay about 15k *if* the car was in good shape. In other words the engine had been rebuilt or it had less then 75k miles on it. Paint and such aren't a big deal to me, but the car would have to be mechanicaly sound because paying for parts for it would be huge.

[snapshotgt]

thrill of driving my own st205 is priceless ..

haha, I am weeping now.

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Oct 1, 2006 - 10:51 PM

[95celgt]

well i'd like to see some 86-92 rx7's, and cool ST185's, not just gt-fours though, gotta see some ss-ll and ss-lll

[j0e_p3t]

oh yeah... i wouldn't mind an ss-iii either. but i've never heard of any lhd ss-iii's. and when i said gt-four, i meant st205.

[slyd]

Well, as I said, my network of buyers should be able to locate nearly any vehicle. So SS-II and SS-III are definately options, actually cheaper and easier (except for the 3sge-vvt-i models).

As for buying a cosmetically flawed vehicle for customization, we should be able to find a reduced price, well used, fender bender, or something. If your going to replace body panels with fiberglass or carbon, restyle, reupholster, repaint, etc. anyway, why buy a perfect specimen? But I will not sell anything, other than by explicit customer request, that is substandard. Likewise, I will not buy anything that requires anything other than minimal reconditioning. Most vehicles will come with a warranty, probably a year or two. But the lawyers and insurace people will have a lot of say on that front.

As for left hand conversion, there are two ways: 1. Locate new or used dash pieces from a LHD-spec or similar dash from the same manufacturer and extend wiring, fabricate bracketry, ducting, and such. 2. Complete fabrication of mirror image dash. Obviously number 2 is more expensive, but normally we should be able to locate suitabe parts for the conversion. As far as the GT-4 goes, just get a dash out of a wrecked LHD-spec ST or GT and your half done. Making it look stock and pretty is the hard part, wiring and mechanicals (usually) are fairly easy.

[TomPoz]

As for GT4 - in Europe you can get LHD 1994-1996 priced from 10 to 16 k $. Mileage in range of 100-150 k miles. And 96 is the last year for LHD. 97-99 are available RHD only so JDM is the only option. You could get them for around 10-12 k $ but you need to add 2-3 k $ for conversion. Of course shipping to US of 1-2 k $ needs to be added to both options. I am not aware of any of your taxes (import, excise, whatever you may have) which need to be on top of all that.

Ergo, it would be very difficult to get GT4 to US below 15 k $.

Also, remember that spares are original only which means: 1) available in Toyota , 2) priced by Toyota .

This post has been edited by TomPoz: Oct 2, 2006 - 6:54 AM

[doGGy]

GT4 in Japan cost from 2K$ till 8K$ depending on condition and etc. And all this pricing is fo a DAMAGED cars only. SSIII Prices are a little bit lower...

Shipping from Japan to almost any country is the same (almost the same) Shipping from Japan of 40ft container including 4 cars would cost somthere near 5-6K$ range. so even if you buy a well used GT4 lets say of 97 for about 5$ with little cosmetic damage + add another 1.5K for shipping, add customs fees, papers and etc and im well sure you will be standing in about 10-12K$ price range with it RHD.

I did imported already 6 JDM cars, and will do more in future, so im a bit familiar with all the stuff and etc.. And to get best prices of the JDM cars you have to have a really really good source - cuz otherwise Add another 1-1.5K of dealer fees...

[slyd]

Unfortunately, in the US we have different import laws than our European friends. Please, if you are not from the US, you probably don't understand what we have to go through, so don't confuse the issue with non-US importation laws and regulations. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just different here.

As an individual, you can import a car illegaly (to the US) by doing a few things to it. Then you have to do illegal things to register and insure. Good luck ever selling it. Furthermore, if a cop, dmv, epa, dot, etc. ever gets a suspicion of what you did, bye bye car, and hello prosecution.

In Japan there are many electronic auction houses. All cars are rated on a scale and have pictures so that the buyer knows what they are getting. And my buyers have been instructed to inspect each vehicle that they buy before finalizing. I will not buy substandard cars unless my customer has instructed me to. Nearly 70,000 cars per week go through the auctions and private sale houses my buyers have access to. I am working to expand that. According to the pricing information they have given me, add to that processing and shipping, add to that various other things that have to be done to keep it legal. It can be done for what I have priced, but like doggy said, you just have to have the right source.

[Celiracer18]

You have PM.

[celica47]

so slyd are you speculating about all this or are you actually ready for business?

This post has been edited by celica47: Oct 2, 2006 - 5:44 PM

[BBoYRuGGeD]

driving a real st205 sounds mighty appealing...hMmMm

bboy

[D_Money5042000]

I'm interested

[j0e_p3t]

off topic... but hey doggy, whatever happened to your lhd conversion project with your ss-iii?

[slyd]

As of now I am in the late planning phase. It is on hold until I get final OK's from lawyers, officials, and such. I think everything will be a go, but there is a lot of running around before I even accept the first order. It has to be perfectly legal and ironclad before I will risk accepting anyone's money, making a mistake, and the resulting lawsuits. So although I appreciate your enthusasim (I want a real ST205 also), lets hold off on the orders at the moment.

This topic is simply a feeler to guage interest and such. Please no more PM's or emails until everything is finalized. Feel free to post interest, suggestions, questions, wish lists, etc. I will answer them as best I can.

I could start in as early as two weeks if everything progresses like I think it will.

[celica47]

DAmn dude....you better be ready for a headache because as soon as somebody gets the first GT-4 youre gonna have half of 6gc asking you lol.

[block]

thats how he be making money..duh hehehe

As of now I am in the late planning phase. It is on hold until I get final OK's from lawyers, officials, and such. I think everything will be a go, but there is a lot of running around before I even accept the first order. It has to be perfectly legal and ironclad before I will risk accepting anyone's money, making a mistake, and the resulting lawsuits. So although I appreciate your enthusasim (I want a real ST205 also), lets hold off on the orders at the moment.

This topic is simply a feeler to guage interest and such. Please no more PM's or emails until everything is finalized. Feel free to post interest, suggestions, questions, wish lists, etc. I will answer them as best I can.

I could start in as early as two weeks if everything progresses like I think it will.

is there a time set to do this? like next year or in 10 years or what? i know you're still planning but give us a date so we can save dough!

[celica47]

oh yeah i agree duh....Hopefully hes serious and can make this happen, maybe this thread wont disappear :::::KNOCK ON WOOD::::::

[block]

oh yeah i agree duh....Hopefully hes serious and can make this happen, maybe this thread wont disappear :::::KNOCK ON WOOD::::::

hell yeah i agree with u...i have about 14K right now..if i save up to next summer i'd proly afford it

CRAP!

This post has been edited by block: Oct 2, 2006 - 10:32 PM

[Kwanza26]

I'd like an AE111 Levin/Sprinter and am willing to pay upwards of FIVE... yes... count them... FIVE United States Dollars. Seriously now... there are only a handful of people really capable of actually buying an imported JDM car.

[slyd]

you better be ready for a headache because as soon as somebody gets the first GT-4 youre gonna have half of 6gc asking you

As I said, I plan to sell to 6gc members cheap. Lower profit per unit is offset by volume and advertisement. And I like you guys.

there are only a handful of people really capable of actually buying an imported JDM car

Until some rich guy buys one, wrecks it or gets tired of it, buys another, and sells the old one on the US market cheap. And who wouldn't like to start a build with something like that. And if your out there, rich guy, I don't mean this as an insult, in fact I'd love to do business: minimum order say...10 cars.

Seriously, once I get a bit bigger and have more cash flow, another option for the more financially strapped enthusiast could be payments. But that is probably a year or so down the road.

As far as time goes, if all goes well, I could be open for business in about two weeks. But I'll keep the board informed as to the timetable.

[Toyoca]

cool

[Kwanza26]

Until some rich guy buys one, wrecks it or gets tired of it, buys another, and sells the old one on the US market cheap. And who wouldn't like to start a build with something like that. And if your out there, rich guy, I don't mean this as an insult, in fact I'd love to do business: minimum order say...10 cars.

Seriously, once I get a bit bigger and have more cash flow, another option for the more financially strapped enthusiast could be payments. But that is probably a year or so down the road.

As far as time goes, if all goes well, I could be open for business in about two weeks. But I'll keep the board informed as to the timetable.

I believe the market is there... but you're looking at the wrong pool of people. No offence to you. Realistically speaking... if people here can barely afford 3SGTE swaps and turbo kits... I doubt many or any can afford a 12-20K used car without any sort of major financing help. The age group here just isn't very financially able.

[chacha]

i wish you the best and may your buisness be successful, let's just knock off all the negatives and support with the positives...we have a guy trying to pursue his dream and ours if we have the money...keep us posted

[Celiracer18]

Mitsubishi FTO <suggestion

[D_Money5042000]

do we have a final price? And how long do we have to wait b4 we get it after we pay?

This post has been edited by D_Money5042000: Oct 4, 2006 - 9:15 PM

[celicaST]

id be interested... after im out of college. i have to agree with what kwanza said above. most of us here just cant afford it. but still, itd be awesome if you could get gt-4s here legally

[SiN_CeLi]

I would be interested in a st205. I was just looking at how much it would cost to import one and such. And for u guys looking for skylines already imported legally and registered in the U.S. if I remember correctly the site is modifiedcartrader.com. I saw a couple of skylines on there from 23K and up.

[slyd]

UPDATE:
My import process has been cleared by government officials I have contacted.
Paperwork still processing to become broker/dealer.
Waiting on lawyers approval, miscellaneous business stuff, and insurance underwriters.
Estimated time 1-5 weeks.

Contacts in Japan say 6gen GT-4, S15, R32, R34, FTO, NSX-R and other desirable JDM-only and JDM-spec vehicles are available, although specific examples come and go, the supply is fairly constant, they just need money and a little time to buy them. Few good contacts for European cars yet, most people are way too expensive, so no good places for diesel VW or Audi, yet. Australians are starting to talk, so Nissan RB30 engines and Holden vehicles look promising.

All in all, a good week. Thank you for your support.

[SinisterWhisper]

I think what should be corrected is that while few of us can drop the money *today* we are a future market. We are diehards here and many us are going to be getting to the point in our lives where we have the cash in a few years. As for myself I know that if I wanted a gt4 badly enough I could probably afford half of it in a year and get a loan for the rest. Don't think I will, but more realisticly if I get a scholarship I could probably get the car without any issues (parents rock some times)

[6strngs]

hmm... probably couldn't afford one for several years, but I'd take a GT-four... I'd sooner take a skyline though.

[SiN_CeLi]

If u accept credit cards then I could buy one . I Have a 15 grand limit on my AMEX.

[devilsden97]

If u accept credit cards then I could buy one . I Have a 15 grand limit on my AMEX.

how the hell did u do that!? thats insane for your average joe

[Zimluura]

very interested. here's how i'm feeling about prices. if it were 6-12K i'd buy it in a heartbeat. more than that and i'd probably still buy, but i'd have to think about it more.

questions:
would being an importer/dealer enable you to dot register the clear headlight lenses. and, if so, would you be able to dot register hids for use with them. it'd be nice to have street legal hids. lhd would be damn nice to have as well. if lhd was taken care of it'd increase what i'd be willing to pay (of course).

This post has been edited by Zimluura: Oct 7, 2006 - 2:36 AM

[celicast3sgte]

i would love to see the imported cost of an R33 skyline mid 90s. Stock of course.

[celiracer]

Yea i wouldn't be able to afford one. But then again just getting them into the states would be sweet. Because the people that do buy them will hopefully sell and then other 6gc people would buy. So i'd probably just wait till someone else gets one and sells it then i would take it up cause 15k is way to exspensive for me. Specially when i think i could make my celica a full GT-4 conversion for that price.

Actually how much do you think it would cost if you imported a front half cut of a ST205? Thats what i would like is a half cut.

This post has been edited by celiracer: Oct 7, 2006 - 11:04 AM

[SiN_CeLi]

If u accept credit cards then I could buy one . I Have a 15 grand limit on my AMEX.

how the hell did u do that!? thats insane for your average joe

I co-signed on a house for my brother and he hasn't missed any payments. And I paid for my celi for 6 years under my name, registation and insurance and never missed a payment. and I co-signed for my wife's galant. And she has never missed a payment. Oh and by the way I knew toyotas were reliable but never did I realize that fact so much till my wife got her galant.

[Jeremy1210]

If u accept credit cards then I could buy one . I Have a 15 grand limit on my AMEX.

how the hell did u do that!? thats insane for your average joe

Its not hard to get credit limits like that. I have 3 cards with over that much spending limit

[playr158]

lol 15k limit is nothing....


although can you get a GT4 rear cut, i'm interested in one of those

[D_Money5042000]

patiently waiting

[pokemeintheeye]

but the thing is, some states are strict and wont allow certain cars (cough* minnesota)...maybe just leave it in the garage and look at it...i wouldn't mind doing that...

Not true. If I had $15,000 I'd be driving in my own ST205 right now. My friend is the only person in Minnesota with a '96 JDM Type-R.

[block]

but the thing is, some states are strict and wont allow certain cars (cough* minnesota)...maybe just leave it in the garage and look at it...i wouldn't mind doing that...

Not true. If I had $15,000 I'd be driving in my own ST205 right now. My friend is the only person in Minnesota with a '96 JDM Type-R.

really? it better not be a lie cause i know of 3 people with RHD real type R s in minnesota...its not even rare here in mn

This post has been edited by block: Oct 13, 2006 - 6:41 PM

[ra65_22re]

any updates from slyd on those jdm beauties?

[slyd]

UPDATE:
Trying so hard to get everything taken care of, I've neglected to keep everyone informed.

The business is still mired in paperwork. And will be for a short while. I have to mail things back and forth to Japan, so it can only be rushed so much. I could take a couple of filghts, but that gets expensive quickly, feel free to donate if you want to expedite the process. I'm sorry if anyone thought that there would be a jump start to this. That's why I titled this a "Feeler".

The interest from this forum has helped me get closer to realizing my vision. I had to have demonstratable interest in my services before a few people instrumental in this affair would be commited. There is a lot to do before I can risk anyone's money or reputation.

That being said, so far, there hasn't been much negative from the people that could kill the business, but suggestions have been in abundance. I feel that I could start fairly soon. Only a few hurdles are left. Last week I said possibly 2 weeks. Now: possibly just over 1 week. Something happens in 1 week that is important.

Please stay tuned. I will try my best to get things done so that I can begin taking orders.

[6strngs]

if business is still going strong in a few years I'll take a st205.

[celicast3sgte]

if its going srtong in a few years ill be buying a couple 205s.. possibly a skyline if my shop permits the allowance.

[RbrtNdrws]

I am definitely interested.. I'm not able to spend more than 12-13k for a stock gt-four

[celica47]

hey iam curious if youre going to be able to get any LHD st205s?

[SiN_CeLi]

So any news on whats going on. I am seriously very interested

[spunky393]

I really REALLY can't believe that nobody has asked or even thought out loud "what if this guy is just a really clever scammer?" I mean, come on guys, i don't mean to be a bastard, but the internet is full of scams now days. This guy Joined Jan 26, '06, that makes him completely cool to send big amounts of money to. "I like you guys" etc, etc, that kind of stuff just screams scam out loud to me, i had to turn my speakers down.

Just my .02 cents

6gc ghost - Spunky393

[D_Money5042000]

I guess i never thought of that since i wasn't sure how the process is gonna work yet. like he gets the cars and sell them or do i give him a deposit and he imports and then i pay the rest. So i dunno

[slyd]

I understand being wary, feel free to visit once I get set up for business. We are dealing with large amounts of money, not as large as my future NSX customers, but still big enough to make sure there are no shady operations. The reason I like you guys is I bought a 6gc and this forum served as a repository of knowledge for when it decided not to run very well and I couldn't afford anyone other than myself.

The reason it is taking so long is I'm in Arkansas, my contacts for most vehicles are obviously in Japan, and my lawyers are in Texas (had to get lawyers experienced in customs). Oh, and I'm running the computer shop to pay the bills until everything gets going, so my 9-5 is largely taken. Once again, I am currently refusing orders. I can't afford mistakes. I can take a loss on everything I've invested so far, it will hurt, but once I accept an order it's another ballgame entirely.

[spunky393]

At least you didn't say you are located in nigeria.

[D_Money5042000]

any updates?

[D_Money5042000]

still nada?

[spunky393]

maybe i called him out and scared him off

[SinisterWhisper]

grow up the guy never asked for a dime from us. As to whether or not he will be back who knows, but hey if there is a chance at we might see these in the us be supportive.

[ra65_22re]

grow up the guy never asked for a dime from us. As to whether or not he will be back who knows, but hey if there is a chance at we might see these in the us be supportive.

X2

id love to just see one drive by me. though id sht my self if i could owned one. but if there is even a slim chance that slyd could get a hold and import some over here we should support him for the thought and hopfully he will beable to show us that he can import these overseas beauties to us.

[4g-gt-four]

grow up the guy never asked for a dime from us. As to whether or not he will be back who knows, but hey if there is a chance at we might see these in the us be supportive.

I second that notion. The thing i would caution everyone who is a potential buyer about, is the fact that it is rare to be able to get full cars into the states these days. My buddy Ryan just tried to get an evo4 into the country from who he researched was a reputable seasoned importer. He had to pay the guy 80% up front. As it turns out the guy ended up screwing it up and the car was taken by Canadian customs and auctioned off as an export only sale(evo4 went for $1400.. ). They are suing the guy right now for the money, but who knows how that will go... I consider any man who can get a jdm car into the country fully legalized and in one peice a godsend. But the buyer should not have to assume any financial responsibility until they have a US title and set of keys in hand. Importers need to realize they are rolling the dice when they attempt to get a car in the country, and it could potentially pay off or not. But they need to assume full responsibility. If I were in the position to buy a new car, I would be willing to pay $20,000 for a fully legalized left hand drive st205(yes they exist. They are in Europe) in excellent condition. But i would be very very worried about getting into an accident considering the structural integrity of the st205 bumper beams

[spunky393]

You guys are freaking idiots, telling me to grow up? How many people that posted in this topic saying "i want this and that" could actually get the money to get "this and that." And also, like my first post says, i was surprised that no-one even had the idea of a scam.

Now, my idiot comment, if you read my second and third post, you will notice that there does happen to be a degree of sarcasm.

Now get off my back and try to figure out how much extra money you're going to be spending on a loan, on fix-its, and how in the world are you going to be able to pay off the whole loan, are you moving into a house soon, are you still in college, kids, marriage, etc? etc? Granted, if one had money, and lots of it, one could do what one wants. But come-on.

6gc Ghost
Spunky393

[4g-gt-four]

You guys are freaking idiots, telling me to grow up? How many people that posted in this topic saying "i want this and that" could actually get the money to get "this and that." And also, like my first post says, i was surprised that no-one even had the idea of a scam.

Now, my idiot comment, if you read my second and third post, you will notice that there does happen to be a degree of sarcasm.

Now get off my back and try to figure out how much extra money you're going to be spending on a loan, on fix-its, and how in the world are you going to be able to pay off the whole loan, are you moving into a house soon, are you still in college, kids, marriage, etc? etc? Granted, if one had money, and lots of it, one could do what one wants. But come-on.

6gc Ghost
Spunky393

he's not scaming you, so you get off HIS back. Once again, grow up, and let the guy figure out if he wants to start importing st205's or not. You are the one who had the childish ass comment "maybe i called him out and scared him away". That dumb comment is why your getting flame. Its one thing to call fishy on a guy thats asking out of nowhere for money to import you an st205, but completely uncalled for to accuse him of a scam when he has entered into contract with noone. He is fishing for I wants, and people want these cars. So, the fact that most of the people that said they wanted an st205, will never buy one is irrelevant. If he imports these cars, at the least some wealthy guy will buy them if not enthusiasts. why would you want to clutter up some guys thread that has a legit business purpose for it and potentially get it locked just because you said something stupid

[spunky393]

Alright, sounds good

[JoKeRkId613]

any updates? i want my beams ss3 already!

[Valo666]

Hate to pop the bubble here, but importing cars such as the ones hes mentioning into Canada(where we are pretty lax about stuff like this) is a pain in the ass. Im working for my buddies company, SMP motors. Right now we are importing cars into Canada from Japan. The newest car/latest model he can bring in is IRT's. Thats for like 95 or 96 ITR thats done stock. It takes about 4 months of paper work and legal battels to bring it into the country and about another 2 months of batteling with the gouvernment registering it. As of now in Canada, the only cars that are legal to import from Japan at this time are cars 15 years to the month. Also, for certain cars, you can get them relatively cheap. FD RX-7 twinturbos are going for around $10K landed in Canada. As for U.S. law, what i know is unless you register the car as a show car/track car, the car can only be in the country for 6 months. After that the car is deported, if you dont deport the car, it gets crushed and it still needs to be deported. We had a guy from New York state try and get in the company because he found the U.S. law very quickly. As for importing a car into canada, then to the U.S... i would A. check with U.S. Coustoms, B. the DMV and C. your state's laws.


As for pricing for cars...
*these are rough prices*
NSX - $20-50K CND landed
Skylines - $4.5-30KCND Landed (depending on the models, from GTST 4doors - GTRs)
Celica GT4 - 5th Gen - $2-10K CND Landed
Celica GT4 - ST205 *been lookin into this my self* - $3.5-25K CND Landed
Supra - MKIII - 2.5L TT - $4-30k
Supra - MkIV - $7-50K
Soarers - 2.5L TT - $4-30K
FD RX7 - TT - $8-60K
Roadster - Miata - $2-35K

These are rough prices based on the prices of cars in Yen converted to Canadian + rough shipping costs.

Cars costs depends on modifications, condition of the car (auction grade), mode of transportation (shipped with other cars, or by its self), models, etc.

Also for LHD euro GT4s, very hard to find *well at least in France, Germany and Italy*.

Not to hijax of n e thin, if interested in importing cars to canda *once again if planning to import cars from CND to US, check with local and federal laws*, please contact me via PM. And no we do not import parts, just cars.

[JoKeRkId613]

i have confidence in slyd. he can legally get me a 98-99 ss3 beams celi for under 15k.

[D_Money5042000]

there hasn't been updates for a while