 4AGXX with auto tranny !, why isn't this possible ? |
 Oct 5, 2006 - 4:47 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%)  |
I would like to know what are the reasons why a celica ST with auto tranny can't use a 4AGXX engine without having to swap the tranny ?
or is this possible ? --------------------  |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 5:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes... but you'll have to find the right ECU to run the tranny... which could be troublesome because there are several different auto trannies and several different electrical set-ups for each...
Performance-wise... less gears = less revs = less performance. Not worthwhile IMO... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
well, I have access to a 4AGE black top, but I don't have money for the tranny right now and if I don't install the engine on my car I won't get it free. so what should I do ? I have 3 weeks to take a desicion
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
A blacktop? Find an auto AE111 ecu and splice...
-------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Oct 5, 2006 - 6:05 PM) [snapback]488169[/snapback] A blacktop? Find an auto AE111 ecu and splice... ok I'll try that. -------------------- |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
but let me also say dropping the engine in is the EASY part... wiring can become a nightmare if you don't know what you're doing... good luck.
-------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
I have no experience on non of this, that's why I have a couple pleople helping me on this. they know a lot more than me. once we start we have to finished some how
hoping for the best. -------------------- |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 6:48 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
don't depend on people that say they will help to always help you...just make sure that you have a way to get out without them...
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Oct 5, 2006 - 7:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '06 From Maui, Hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
It would be a smarter deal to let someone who already has the experience on making the wiring conversion do it for you. Also, find out what code the auto tranny from the ae111 was so that you can find a good matching tranny from a domestic model. I'm pretty sure you will be able to find a tranny for cheap.
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Oct 5, 2006 - 7:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
the thing is I don't wanna change my tranny right now, well I can't afford the tranny right now so what I'm trying to do is install the engine with tha auto tranny from my ST, later on in a couple months upgrade to a manual tranny.
I'm thinking to send the wiring to someone with experience. my friends and cousins are gonna help me, but just as a reference in case I don't know what to do at some point. but i'm trying to have as much info as possible so I'll prolly be able to complete this myself. -------------------- |
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Oct 5, 2006 - 7:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you'll need to get as much info about the the A246E and the A241E (i think its the trans that would be mated to the 4age in most applications) and determine if the trans controls are similar as are the final drive and gear ratios. if it all matches up then it could be possible for the 4age pcm to control the A246E.
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Oct 6, 2006 - 12:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Oct 5, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]488212[/snapback] the thing is I don't wanna change my tranny right now, well I can't afford the tranny right now so what I'm trying to do is install the engine with tha auto tranny from my ST, later on in a couple months upgrade to a manual tranny. I'm thinking to send the wiring to someone with experience. If your ALREADY typing something like this you havn't thoughtout swaps enough...WAIT, SAVE your money until you can AFFORD to do everything that is needed at the SAME TIME...you really want to do wiring harnesses 2 times? i have a 7afe manual tranny i could sell you for cheap if you want to cut costs... |
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