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For the past year ive HATED driving my car at night especially if it was raining. I get terrified of driving and start freaking out because i get visions of getitng in a horrible accident but dont have them when I drive my dads solara. So im talking with my parents to see if maybe I can get my G35 sooner and if they'd co-sign and they said its possible but theyd like me to try glasses for driving first. lol. which is understandable and maybe ill feel a bit safer if I can see the lines of the road. My dad however is against me getting a Nissan. Tells me if I want a more luxury car then go for Lexus and I would agree if I wasnt madly in love with the G35 but he is my mechanic so I will have to take his opinion into consideration. Sorry guys and gals but the car wont be getting rid of or parted out. It will become the back up car for when my car, my bros car or dads car is under the knife for something or other.
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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Infinity/Nissan isnt bad. well thats what most say.. We have bad luck with Nissan [200SX and 96 Pick up] LOL
Go with Lexus. I drove an ES350 and wow.. that is a beast! |
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it would def help to see the road... i wear glasses but dont wear them normally because my vision isnt too bad... but rain/night/blurring from rain would def be why ur freaking out and feel unsafe without ur glasses... i wear mine all the time when i drive, to see signs and idiot drivers
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Why do you feel unsafe in the celica? I dont see how going from FWD in bad weather to RWD will make you feel safer...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I dont know why. Just in the past year I get freaked out and start not being able to breath if im driving in the rain or at night in general. It was pouring this week and was driving my dads car and I had no problem. I guess I just trust a newer car over an older one. My parents asked if it would help if I got my new engine soon but I dont think im afraid of breaking down or anything. Im afraid of crashing. I have two fears in my life 1. Car accident and 2. being kidnapped
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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hehe its washington! you should be use to the rain lol
![]() but no I could understand why it'd be scary driving at night especially in the rain... sometimes its gets really bad. >_< but I dont see how gettin a new car would make ya feel safer, but ya know whatever makes ya feel better, right? -------------------- ![]() 2003 Nissan Murano SE |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I dont know something about the celica doesnt feel right ..im just creeped out by the car. Yeah I hate driving in the rain and should be used to it but I try to keep off freeways in general cuz i dont have the patience for the freeway when its going under 60 mph and no one else can drive in the rain either here! :-)
I just dont feel comfortable in that car anymore :-( i really think its cuz its an older car. -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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a RWD car will do worse in the rain then a fwd one.
if you have problems with your eye sight, then i don't think a brand new luxury car will help cure that. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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^ its not my eye sight. its the car. I have said that driving my dads solara i have no problems with driving its the celica..something about that car feels unsafe.
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 20, 2006 - 4:44 PM) [snapback]494242[/snapback] a RWD car will do worse in the rain then a fwd one. if you have problems with your eye sight, then i don't think a brand new luxury car will help cure that. x2 |
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QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:06 PM) [snapback]494222[/snapback] I dont know why. Just in the past year I get freaked out and start not being able to breath if im driving in the rain or at night in general. It was pouring this week and was driving my dads car and I had no problem. I guess I just trust a newer car over an older one. My parents asked if it would help if I got my new engine soon but I dont think im afraid of breaking down or anything. Im afraid of crashing. I have two fears in my life 1. Car accident and 2. being kidnapped I have two fears in life too. 1. Wrecking My Celi 2. Micheal Jackson ![]() -------------------- ![]() Cuz Thats How Us Country Boyz Roll Growing up racing motocross, i learned one thing..."Always wear clean underwear, you never know when the Paramedics are gonna have to cut your pants off of you" |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined May 8, '06 From Irvine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
get the lexus, g35s are ehhhh but a spankin new lexus will get you the chicks.
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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 4:15 PM) [snapback]494252[/snapback] get the lexus, g35s are ehhhh but a spankin new lexus will get you the chicks. She is a chick But if she's down with picking up Hot chicks too, then i completely understand ![]() -------------------- ![]() Cuz Thats How Us Country Boyz Roll Growing up racing motocross, i learned one thing..."Always wear clean underwear, you never know when the Paramedics are gonna have to cut your pants off of you" |
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1. Who ever tells you nissan quality sucks....theyre wrong....nissans have turned their crap around since carlos ghosn took over. from 2002 and up nissan quality has dramatically risen. I beat on my Z day to day and no problems to complain about.
2. going to a celica to a G35 you will probably kill or really hurt you/your car in the rain.. Even with tcs/vdc the rear end can still get out on you in the rain.....I have read numberous horror stories of people who dont know how control a rwd and they end up in a ditch or a median. trust me ...unless your celica is spewing bolts out the muffler...or catches fire...you are very safe.....if you really want to feel safe in the rain...buy a fwd/awd unless you a experienced. rwd will hurt you in the rain This post has been edited by fastgt: Oct 20, 2006 - 4:19 PM -------------------- 2011 Spice Orange Mini Cooper
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 16, '06 From Kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) ![]() |
QUOTE(fastgt @ Oct 20, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]494255[/snapback] 1. Who ever tells you nissan quality sucks....theyre wrong....nissans have turned their crap around since carlos ghosn took over. from 2002 and up nissan quality has dramatically risen. I beat on my Z day to day and no problems to complain about. 2. going to a celica to a G35 you will probably kill or really hurt you/your car in the rain.. Even with tcs/vdc the rear end can still get out on you in the rain.....I have read numberous horror stories of people who dont know how control a rwd and they end up in a ditch or a median. trust me ...unless your celica is spewing bolts out the muffler...or catches fire...you are very safe.....if you really want to feel safe in the rain...buy a fwd/awd unless you a experienced. rwd will hurt you in the rain Very true...my 95 Camaro friggin' sucked massive ones in the rain. I hit a guard rail once, and had to replace the whole doghouse. This post has been edited by 6th_celi_vert: Oct 20, 2006 - 4:22 PM -------------------- ![]() Cuz Thats How Us Country Boyz Roll Growing up racing motocross, i learned one thing..."Always wear clean underwear, you never know when the Paramedics are gonna have to cut your pants off of you" |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Hell no with FWD again. Im not putting up with my dad saying he wont do anything to my car cuz its FWD. This time its going ot be RWD.
I think you guys are missing hte point - its not my eye sight or any of that its I DONT FEEL SAFE IN THE CELICA CUZ ITS OLD. lol. I can see fine in any other car -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 4:27 PM) [snapback]494262[/snapback] Hell no with FWD again. Im not putting up with my dad saying he wont do anything to my car cuz its FWD. This time its going ot be RWD. I think you guys are missing hte point - its not my eye sight or any of that its I DONT FEEL SAFE IN THE CELICA CUZ ITS OLD. lol. I can see fine in any other car im not trying to be a smartass, but in 13 years, are you going to feel unsafe in the G35? -------------------- ![]() Cuz Thats How Us Country Boyz Roll Growing up racing motocross, i learned one thing..."Always wear clean underwear, you never know when the Paramedics are gonna have to cut your pants off of you" |
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QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:27 PM) [snapback]494262[/snapback] Hell no with FWD again. Im not putting up with my dad saying he wont do anything to my car cuz its FWD. This time its going ot be RWD. I think you guys are missing hte point - its not my eye sight or any of that its I DONT FEEL SAFE IN THE CELICA CUZ ITS OLD. lol. I can see fine in any other car i find your reasoning kind of strange, but whatever. -------------------- ![]() I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. |
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QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 2:27 PM) [snapback]494262[/snapback] Hell no with FWD again. Im not putting up with my dad saying he wont do anything to my car cuz its FWD. This time its going ot be RWD. I think you guys are missing hte point - its not my eye sight or any of that its I DONT FEEL SAFE IN THE CELICA CUZ ITS OLD. lol. I can see fine in any other car dont take this the wrong way but it just seems like you want a new car. there are some very great fwd....camry/maxima.....if buy a new car who cares if your dad works on it ..its under warranty...take it to the damn dealer....if you are worried about safety why are you modding cars? i strongly suggest an awd....suby wrx/sti(if u can afford), evo, g35x(sedan)...audi? im sure theres nothing wrong with your celi....just in your head... And of course i mean no disrespect by all this -------------------- 2011 Spice Orange Mini Cooper
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Your alignment might be off causing your car to feel strange in the rain. When I drove it it felt fine though.
Does your dad's Solara have HID headlights? I bet that the headlights, combined with the tires, are biggest difference between the two cars while driving at night. I fail to really see the appeal of a G35 myself, but I think Nissans are great cars. Both of the ones I've had have been excellent. I wouldn't want to be in debt at this point in my life though just for another car. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Its such a beautiful car, you should keep it for fair weather use only.
![]() -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
^ thanks Randy. yeah it will be kept.
Yeah I want a new car and id probably feel 100 times safer in a new car. The celica has 230k miles on it...thats a lot of miles and yeah its been driven hard but its been well maintained but it still scares the crap outta me. -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 13, '03 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
you wanna be scared....take a ride in my car!
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nat, what are your tires like?
i cant tell you how much better the car feels in the rain with the michelin pilot sport a/s i bought a couple months ago. as far as lighting, i find the celica somewhat lacks there, unless you aim the lights up higher than they should be. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I think everyones misunderstanding. When I have a fear in my head it will consume me. Ive been afraid of being kidnapped since I was little that I would sit there and cry about it in the middle of the night. once I have that fear its set.
QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 2:55 PM) [snapback]494285[/snapback] nat, what are your tires like? i cant tell you how much better the car feels in the rain with the michelin pilot sport a/s i bought a couple months ago. as far as lighting, i find the celica somewhat lacks there, unless you aim the lights up higher than they should be. I have brand new tires. So those are good. yes it needs an alignment tho so my dads going to pay for that sometime in the next week or so. The lights are fine when its dry but those damn orange street lights make it so i cant see the road at all as well as when its wet i cant seem to find the lines. -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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buy a new car, the g35 has a lot of new safety features the celica doesnt, and if you enjoy it, just stay with the community. But im telling you, g35's are LAAME get a lexus!
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I too agree with Lexus.
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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:01 PM) [snapback]494289[/snapback] buy a new car, the g35 has a lot of new safety features the celica doesnt, and if you enjoy it, just stay with the community. But im telling you, g35's are LAAME get a lexus! i would like to hear your reasoning as to why a g35 is lame -------------------- 2011 Spice Orange Mini Cooper
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined May 8, '06 From Irvine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Actual tangable evidence? None whatsoever
![]() I dont like it, thats all, I hate the look of it, it reminds me of the 350z. I just dont like certain cars, but thats why there are many diff makes and models right? |
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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:05 PM) [snapback]494293[/snapback] Actual tangable evidence? None whatsoever ![]() I dont like it, thats all, I hate the look of it, it reminds me of the 350z. I just dont like certain cars, but thats why there are many diff makes and models right? you not liking the way it looks has no bearing on the car itself....the look of a car does not make it lame -------------------- 2011 Spice Orange Mini Cooper
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Lol relax dude, she asked our opinion and I gave it to her. I think its to big, heavy and bubbly for my tastes. Hense in my book lame = not spending money on it. If you like it that doesnt mean EITHER of us is wrong, like I said. There are many makes and models lol, but seriously Blackcelica go get a new car. test drive it, if you actually FEEEL better in it, then get it. Cars are for transportation and enjoyment if you dont enjoy it, then dont suffer through it.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 13, '03 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Oct 20, 2006 - 3:11 PM) [snapback]494303[/snapback] Lol relax dude, she asked our opinion and I gave it to her. I think its to big, heavy and bubbly for my tastes. Hense in my book lame = not spending money on it. If you like it that doesnt mean EITHER of us is wrong, like I said. There are many makes and models lol, but seriously Blackcelica go get a new car. test drive it, if you actually FEEEL better in it, then get it. Cars are for transportation and enjoyment if you dont enjoy it, then dont suffer through it. i actually dont like the look of the G but i dont consider it lame....hell i think the evo looks like a$$ but i respect the car.. and nat i would seriously reconsider the g35 ...or at least test drive it on a rainy day -------------------- 2011 Spice Orange Mini Cooper
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yeah imma go test drive it this weekend in non rain weather and then test it again in rain if i like it. I want something new as in something new to play with and newer as in years. I <3 my celica and I probably wont ever get the feeling I do when I see it just right as the sunsets and its parked. Its a sight for sore (or in my case blind) eyes. lol.
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined May 8, '06 From Irvine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
As long as your tires are good, rain shouldnt be a problem if your a careful driver. I dont drive my rwd car in the rain, to spin happy T_T
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Lexus FTW!
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my Z is my Daily Driver so rain or shine im out there....i have the base model so traction control...but fortunatly i can control my car so i dont really get scared....unless there are puddles on the freeway...thats some scary crap right there
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QUOTE yes it needs an alignment tho so my dads going to pay for that sometime in the next week or so. man, your poor dad. whos going to be making the high payments on the new car? your looking at something like 600 a month on that car. if your car feels unsafe and needs an alignment, then thats probably why it feels that way. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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My poor dad? He enjoys working on the cars this is why he doesnt let me touch em. He likes doing the work. Ill be paying the car payments. They pay my insurance so ill pay the payments. He wants me in a lexus so he said I need to test a IS300 and 350 before I make any decisions.
-------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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both of those cars are beautiful, but i didnt like the is300's backseat. Since my car HAS no backseat the 2nd needs to be able to lug around sacks of junk (a.k.a. my lazy friends)
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This sounds like a sociological problem that is probably backed by alignment issues. Another reason you may feel "safer" in other newer cars is that they are generally bigger, and have much more sound deadening …thus, rain and lightning do not stand out as much.
Personally, I see it quite silly to buy a new car just because you freak out sometimes ...next, you'll end up locking yourself up in a cell so you cannot be kidnapped! jk, lol. ![]() ![]() p.s. Not in anyway saying newer cars are not safer! ![]() -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
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i dont get this thread one bit..very confusing but sell me the car!!!!! haha good luck
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QUOTE(block @ Oct 20, 2006 - 9:57 PM) [snapback]494359[/snapback] i dont get this thread one bit..very confusing but sell me the car!!!!! haha good luck ![]() She has already stated she isn't selling it. Good thing you have parents that can help you in these kinds of situations. My parents can't co-sign for me and I can't find anyone who would. So my only option right now to keep my car running is putting a new engine in. Have you thought about actually trying to work through your fears? I mean, why let them control you when you can control them. Don't let them run your life. Go see a doctor or something. This post has been edited by JonCars17: Oct 20, 2006 - 9:06 PM |
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i know...hahaha its a joke!
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