 FS: 98 celica BEAMS swap |
 Jul 14, 2003 - 10:07 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jul 2, '03 From midwest Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)  |
hey,
anyone interested in a 98 Celica Beams motor swap please email me .. the nice BEAMS GAUGE CLUSTER IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS WELL..will not sell seperate unless buyer of motor passes on it.. I will have more details and pricing soon ..motor will be here in late AUG .. kanji92@yahoo.com thanks derek This post has been edited by 95WRC: Jul 14, 2003 - 4:15 PM |
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Jul 14, 2003 - 12:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 8, '03 From NorCal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If it's a complete clip... I'll offer quite a bit for it... |
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Jul 14, 2003 - 3:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
complete like axles, tranny, ecu, wiring harness, engine, all the sensors, etc.? -------------------- 1994 Lexus ES300
1989 Supra Turbo 1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec |
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Jul 14, 2003 - 4:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 2, '03 From midwest Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
hey,
ok i was slightly misinformed by my supplier .. i just got pix today .. it is a motor , harness , ecu, and sensors ..motor has 96k or around 55,000miles cluster my be available for sale seperately .. has same mounting as 3sgte .. i thought it had tranny but is does not .. for tranny you will need to use a mr2 turbo or st185 or st205 tranny .. make and offer and when i get my cost i will let anyone know .. please email me with offers . will have pix posted very soon thanks derek .. BTW complete 98 mr2 BEAMS swap is also for sale on mr2 board.. it is a clip and has 28k miles . This post has been edited by 95WRC: Jul 14, 2003 - 4:30 PM |
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Jul 14, 2003 - 9:48 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From So Cal,CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
pictures pls.. |
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Jul 14, 2003 - 9:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '02 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
offer...give us a ballpark figure....so we don't throw you a lowball
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Jul 14, 2003 - 11:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Um... no... a ST185 / ST205 tranny will not work for a FWD setup... But like you said, the MR2 Turbo tranny should work... and so will a Solara tranny. |
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Jul 15, 2003 - 12:18 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
whats a BEAMS swap?
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Jul 15, 2003 - 1:33 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Beams engines are 3sge's with VVTI(valve lift and all that good stuff. I hate to say this, but it's Toyota's version of VTEC)
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Jul 15, 2003 - 10:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so this is a godo engine to do a swap with?
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Jul 15, 2003 - 12:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes, but less potential than the 3sgte. It'd got the neat looking valve cover though!
-------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Jul 15, 2003 - 10:14 PM
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you can use 3s-gte parts for it which would lower the compression thus making better for boost.
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Jul 16, 2003 - 4:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I disagree... there are various differences b/w the Beams motor and a 3S-GTE. The main problem is compatibility in the electronics of the Beams, limitations in the crank design, *probably* with the oil coolers, etc. I know that alot of parts will swap over, but the internals of a 3S-GE cannot handle the same boost as a 3S-GTE. Besides being a pain and expensive to do, coverting a 3S-GE to a 3S-GTE (spec) is a high risk project; what I mean by this is that a 3S-GE will more than likely blow up, unless heavy modifications are done to the internals. I believe the 3S-GTE will out perform a turbo'd Beams motor any day... especially a 3rd gen 3S-GTE... This post has been edited by kuya1284: Jul 16, 2003 - 5:10 AM |
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Jul 16, 2003 - 3:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes, and why deface such a rare engine to turbo it? if you want to boost, just get a 3sgte, don't mess up that beautiful motor. in the end it will cost way less to go 3sgte than to turbo a 3sge. -------------------- 1994 Lexus ES300
1989 Supra Turbo 1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec |
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Jul 17, 2003 - 8:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I plan on going with the 3s-ge, turbo kinda just creates problems and you have to keep your oil really clean, which i'm not good at doing... Rivo was saying something about a supercharger for it. Besides with the 3s-gte you have to swap in the hood and bumper also for the clearence...
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Jul 17, 2003 - 9:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From North Bethesda, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not the 2nd gen 3sgte, if you swap that in, and go with a FMIC, you'll be fine. -------------------- 1994 Lexus ES300
1989 Supra Turbo 1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec |
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Jul 18, 2003 - 1:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
How much of a power sacrifice would that be though?
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Jul 19, 2003 - 6:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Whats the power output on the Beams? What cars had this engine?
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Jul 20, 2003 - 11:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
the ss-III, had the beams red top, 200hp. The beams engine also came in the altezza, black top with 210hp... not that far behind the 3s-gte.
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Jul 21, 2003 - 12:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
And with just a (simple) boost controller, the 3s-gte will blow the 3s-ge out of the water. 
This post has been edited by kuya1284: Jul 21, 2003 - 1:58 AM |
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Jul 21, 2003 - 1:18 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '02 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
er, not quite - check this out   This is from the Toyota Altezza (not lexus) TOMS 280T. It is the 3SGE BEAMS engine turboed. The 280 in the name stands for 280ps (about 277 hp). It seems TOMS, TRD and TTE all took altezzas and produced small numbers of limited editions. The TTE version is superchanged and the TRD version is Turbocharged. Reports from those lucky enough to own or have driven the TOMS 280T say the car is very quick with a lot of potential. Along with the turbo, TOMS also made modifications to the suspension, handling, weight, added a subtle body kit etc. Mmmm, Turboed RWD 3S BEAMS, to my ears the only thing sweeter is 2JZ-GTE --------------------  |
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Jul 21, 2003 - 1:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Maybe I should have included "mod for mod", the 3s-gte will out perform a 3s-ge anyday...
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Jul 21, 2003 - 2:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So this engine is a good swap choice without the hassle of the turbo stuff.... How much they cost? and where to get one? Were they ever released in the US?
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