What kind of gas mileage do you get? Options

[GotToyota]

I'd like to have an idea of what kind of gas mileage you guys get. I'll start:

Year/Model: 1995 GT
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Mods: Stock
Recent tune-ups/maintenance: New spark plugs, Gumout fuel treatment, filter and oil change, Seafoam treatment
Mileage: I just averaged 26 overall on my first tank of gas, this was with aggressive driving, and before the tune-up stuff mentioned above.

-Matt

This post has been edited by GotToyota: Apr 22, 2007 - 12:29 AM

[CelicaZR]

I get about 530kms out of a full tank on my 95sx (auto).

[manphibian]

I'd like to have an idea of what kind of gas mileage you guys get. I'll start:

Year/Model: 1995 GT
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Mods: Stock
Recent tune-ups/maintenance: New spark plugs, Gumout fuel treatment, filter and oil change, Seafoam treatment
Mileage: I just averaged 26 overall on my first tank of gas, this was with aggressive driving, and before the tune-up stuff mentioned above.

-Matt

Wow, so you get about the same MPG with your 130BHP 2.2L engine as i get with my 175BHP 2L engine? How did they manage to make the 5sfe so crappy?

[o0black0o]

You could have a truck like me and get 16mpg.. Spot moaing! lol My celica had 30mpg it was an ST tho.

[Rayme]

I get over 30 mpg on highway only...in city..its pretty bad (very close to the EPA MPG chart)

[jason]

milage i average 25-35mpg depending on my driving, put on a new head on a friends car, his now kicks the **** outta mine and her gets like 30-40mpg too

[GotToyota]

What would be the best way to improve gas mileage? And maybe and wrong about this, correct me if I am, but I thought Toyota 4-cylinders were VERY capable of getting 30+ MPG, maybe the 5S-FE is an exception?

-Matt

[Jeremiah]

I have the ST (7a-fe?), and get 30 MPG wtih lots of city driving. I get 35 MPG on road trips where 90% of the driving is on the freeway (and keeping at 70 MPH or less - speeding kills my mileage). I average 32 MPG.

I also have some pretty tall / wide tires (more rotational weight), and 242,000 miles on my motor, so I'm sure that hurts.

Using 2 oz of Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant per fill-up boosts me about 2 MPG (added to numbers above). Lucas is one of the only (if not THE only) cleaner / lubriator that's a patrolium product instead of a solvent - so it's safe for continued use. It gets great reviews from the chemist nerds @ bobistheoilguy.com

This post has been edited by Jeremiah: Apr 23, 2007 - 2:07 PM

[95st-celica]

when you guys are on the highway though what speed do you travel at??....if your going a long distance...see i travel back and forth on the turnpike at like 80 so i use about a 1/4 tank if not more for about 90-100 miles not to mention im at like 4K....it drives me nuts...need a 6th gear!!

[GotToyota]

when you guys are on the highway though what speed do you travel at??....if your going a long distance...see i travel back and forth on the turnpike at like 80 so i use about a 1/4 tank if not more for about 90-100 miles not to mention im at like 4K....it drives me nuts...need a 6th gear!!

70-75MPH at the most here, and I agree, this drives me nuts.

-Matt

[Jeremiah]

when you guys are on the highway though what speed do you travel at??....if your going a long distance...see i travel back and forth on the turnpike at like 80 so i use about a 1/4 tank if not more for about 90-100 miles not to mention im at like 4K....it drives me nuts...need a 6th gear!!

With gas prices at $3.50 a gal, and cops swarming our area I don't dare go over 70 MPH very often. Look into the lucas stuff. If you're paying more than $2 / GAL at the pump you'll be saving $$$, and you'll notice the engine runs smoother.

[6strngs]

I can only get 22 mpg. all city, half aggressive driving, and the other half as conservative as I can. last summer I was getting like 330 miles per tank, with about 100 or so of it on the freeway at about 65-70 MPH. and the rest in the city. now I get like 230 miles per tank. and it costs like $45 to fill up the tank.

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Apr 23, 2007 - 11:06 PM

[LewFX]

I can only get 22 mpg. all city, half aggressive driving, and the other half as conservative as I can. last summer I was getting like 330 miles per tank, with about 100 or so of it on the freeway at about 65-70 MPH. and the rest in the city. now I get like 230 miles per tank. and it costs like $45 to fill up the tank.

X2

[j0e_p3t]

about 30 mpg of somewhat "spirited" city driving. i usually shift at around 4000 rpm until i hit about 5 over the speed limit. and then keep it constant around 2500 rpm. don't drive highway too much. but when i do its usually around 70, no higher than 75 mph.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Apr 24, 2007 - 12:58 AM

[eyohannie]

I can only get 22 mpg. all city, half aggressive driving, and the other half as conservative as I can. last summer I was getting like 330 miles per tank, with about 100 or so of it on the freeway at about 65-70 MPH. and the rest in the city. now I get like 230 miles per tank. and it costs like $45 to fill up the tank.

X2

X3. I don't know how you other GT guys are getting such great gas mileage. I routinely get 22-23 regardless of how I drive.

[Jeremiah]

How come you GT guys are doing so poorly? You only have .4 more L than our ST's. Doesn't seem like that should drop you 5-10 MPG. I know in Suzuki's, if things go wrong (like o2 censor goes out), they'll go into "limp home" mode which runs much richer than normal... which makes them eat through gas quicker... I wonder if Celicas do the same thing, or if the 2.2L is just really sucky for gas? I mean... really... that's turbo charged / V6 kind of gas mileage.

What would be the best way to improve gas mileage?

Slow down. The harder the accelleration, the more fuel needed in the Air / Gas ratio to accelerate. Speeds above 55 / 60 MPH start to generate exponentially more wind drag - I think our celi's can get to about 65 / 70 without too much drag.

Reduce weight - ESPECIALLY rotational weight. Tires like mine (tall and wide) require a lot more energy (more gas) to get moving. Dead weight & rotational weight really kill your in-town gas mileage. If I went back to stock wheels, I'd probably see 2 MPG's better on freeway, and 3-4 MPG in town.

Tuneup - Make sure your fluids / plugs / wires / air cleaner etc are all fresh and changed at regular intervals. Make sure your valves are adujusted etc.... maintanence is important.

This post has been edited by Jeremiah: Apr 24, 2007 - 1:32 AM

[6strngs]

the 5sfe does run pretty rich at WOT. part throttle cruising should be at or close to 14.7 though.

when I try to be conservative, according to my AFC NEO the peak percentage that I put the gas down is like 35% thorttle and mostly just cruising at like 5-6% throttle. and peak RPM will be like 3770 but I try to cruise between 2000-2500 and I shift at like 2700.

[Bitter]

your guys transmissions are kill you!
with the A245E gearing im turning about 3500rpm at 70-80mph and i get 35mpg at 70-75mph. around town the best ive ever gotten was 26mpg, but i'm a bit of a lead foot and usually bring 1st to about 3000rpm when leaving a light, 2nd to about 2500, then settle into 3rd/4th.

[Negative]

I just checked mine for you guys and I got 25MPG - all city. Mine's manual and I'm at 4K RPM @ 80MPH which I regularly hit on the freeway. That's pretty decent gas mileage unless you are trying to compare to the newer cars and hybrids and stuff. What exactly were you expecting?
Ya'lls gas is high tho. I pay around $2.95 for Chevron/Exxon 93 octane.

[Jeremiah]

That's pretty decent gas mileage unless you are trying to compare to the newer cars and hybrids and stuff. What exactly were you expecting?

I dissagree - 25 MPG for a mid 90's Japanese 4 banger 2 door coup is really really lame. My best friend's mid-90's Nissan 4 Door Nissan Maxima auto gets 26 MPG, my 97 Tracker 4 door SUV gets 25+ MPG, my '94 Subaru easily got 30 MPG with hard driving, my girlfriends 97 V6 4 door automatic Jetta gets 28 MPG, my roomie's mid-90's (I think 96?) 2.2L Accord 4 door auto is getting 28 MPG.

All of the above are mid-90's imports, most of which are 4 doors and / or V6 powered, and none are hybrids. A I-4 2 door coup should be comfortably in the high 20's with agressive city driving, to mid 30's on the highway. My 242,000 mile engine MUST me tired by now, it's only .4 L smaller, and I'm getting 10 MPG better than the 2.2L? Unless they're around 200 HP (which the yota 2.2 isn't even close to), 25 MPG is pretty pathetic.

Ya'lls gas is high tho. I pay around $2.95 for Chevron/Exxon 93 octane.

It's $3.50 here for the cheap gas, and $4 a gal for Chevron 93! The joys of living in California



This post has been edited by Jeremiah: Apr 24, 2007 - 11:22 AM

[Rayme]

The rating for 94 celicas are as follow :

ST 1.8 City: 26-27 Highway: 32-32
GT 2.2liter : City: 23 Highway 29/30

My celica with 250 000 KM+ is pretty spot on with that (even better when I'm careful). And when I mean highway Its purely highway (over 5 hours of 60+). People not getting the proper mileage you just need a tune-up, it's all the same engine...or change your driving habits.

[6strngs]

People not getting the proper mileage you just need a tune-up, it's all the same engine...or change your driving habits.

I'm pretty sure I don't need a tune-up. I have new-ish spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor, synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K) EGR valve, thermostat, coolant, radiator, clutch, flywheel, tranny fluid, axles, and probably other stuff I can't remember. the only thing is the air filter has like 12,000 miles on it, but it doesn't appear dirty.

I'm seriously considering using my AFC Neo to pull some fuel at low throttle bewlow 4K rpms. I'm kinda scared though, how much do you think I could do it safely? I don't have a wideband on yet. I was thinking only like 5%.

[Bitter]

People not getting the proper mileage you just need a tune-up, it's all the same engine...or change your driving habits.

I'm pretty sure I don't need a tune-up. I have new-ish spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor, synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K) EGR valve, thermostat, coolant, radiator, clutch, flywheel, tranny fluid, axles, and probably other stuff I can't remember. the only thing is the air filter has like 12,000 miles on it, but it doesn't appear dirty.

I'm seriously considering using my AFC Neo to pull some fuel at low throttle bewlow 4K rpms. I'm kinda scared though, how much do you think I could do it safely? I don't have a wideband on yet. I was thinking only like 5%.

i'd suggest you dont mess with low throttle at all till you get a wideband, it bounces around pretty perfect at part throttle here, maybe even slightly on the lean side with the header.

[Negative]

x2

[Rayme]

People not getting the proper mileage you just need a tune-up, it's all the same engine...or change your driving habits.

I'm pretty sure I don't need a tune-up. I have new-ish spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor, synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K) EGR valve, thermostat, coolant, radiator, clutch, flywheel, tranny fluid, axles, and probably other stuff I can't remember. the only thing is the air filter has like 12,000 miles on it, but it doesn't appear dirty.

I'm seriously considering using my AFC Neo to pull some fuel at low throttle bewlow 4K rpms. I'm kinda scared though, how much do you think I could do it safely? I don't have a wideband on yet. I was thinking only like 5%.

It could be anything, a mechanical defect, like a malfunctioning map sensor, coolant sensor or o2 sensor or even a leaky fuel injector up to a sticking brake (I doubt it).

You said you get 22 mpg? Thats 1 less mpg than the EPA rating (which is always said to be too high), must just want to relax on the accelerator a bit

This post has been edited by Rayme: Apr 25, 2007 - 9:28 AM

[LewFX]

has in so cal is 3.25...i over maintain my car and get 22-23 mpg...beams engine will surely help!

[Jeremiah]

synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K)

Why? Even crapy synths are good to 6,000 miles, and the better ones go to 15,000 miles. Get a good quality filter (stay the hell away from Fram, they're CRAP - NAPA Gold is REALLY nice) and good synthetic (Pennzoil Platinum) and change it every 10,000 miles. Anything more frequent is a total waste, and doesn't protect your engine any better at all.

Go here for good oil data.

[GotToyota]

synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K)

Why? Even crapy synths are good to 6,000 miles, and the better ones go to 15,000 miles. Get a good quality filter (stay the hell away from Fram, they're CRAP - NAPA Gold is REALLY nice) and good synthetic (Pennzoil Platinum) and change it every 10,000 miles. Anything more frequent is a total waste, and doesn't protect your engine any better at all.

Go here for good oil data.

That's completely true. Synthetic oils are known to actually last longer, and that is even way too short for NORMAL oil change intervals (Toyota encourages every 7500 miles). You can easily hit 10k miles and be just fine. And good suggestion on the Pennzoil Platinum, I use it in mine and it's a great oil. Also, change your oil filter every other oil change instead of each time, it saves you money and you're not wasting perfectly good oil filters.

BTW, I recently got 27MPG staying at 70MPH or below on the highway. Can't wait to get a K&N replacement filter to see if the mileage goes up.

-Matt

This post has been edited by GotToyota: Apr 25, 2007 - 8:40 PM

[WannabeGT4]

19mpg

3SGTE on low boost.
Automatic transmission.
No 2nd gear or torque converter lockup at the moment.

[6strngs]

toyota recommends 7500 under normal use and like 3750 under severe conditions. what most people don't seem to realize is, that just driving your car around the city or stop and go traffic (is there ever anything else in california?) are all considered severe conditions.

according to my auto class instructor, synthetic oils claim to be able to last longer between oil changes but he says the additives in the oil wear out just as fast which is why he said you change your synthetic just as often as regular oil. now, I don't claim him as being the ultimate authority on everything, but he was a GM service technician for 10 years and has been teaching college level automotive classes for several years since.

anyway, after seeing this thread, I've been determined to try to get better gas milage. so I've been driving as conservative as possible. it's boring as anything and takes all the fun out of driving this car, but so far I've gone about 250 miles on this tank and I still have more than a quarter tank. (I usually fill up as soon as the fuel light comes on for the first time. which is a little less than a quarter tank) so I'm expecting it to be like 24-25 mpg. lol. the first 200 or so miles of this were driven how I normally drive though.

[Bitter]

nah, additive packages now last the life of the oil really. more frequent changes now are needed when the oil becomes contaminated with fuels or particulates.


i dont doubt he knows his stuff well, but dealers like to change oil often since it puts customers at ease. one of my teachers was also a GM tech, but he taught at their training center as well (gets his hands on all the new models). he told us that 3k miles is baloney unless ALL you do are short stop and go trips on a cold engine, just a few miles at operating temp will start to boil off the gasoline thats washed into the crank. he said that convention oils now (good ones) will do 5k change intervals for a commuter no problem, its the soccer moms you gotta watch out for.

[6strngs]

nah, additive packages now last the life of the oil really. more frequent changes now are needed when the oil becomes contaminated with fuels or particulates.


i dont doubt he knows his stuff well, but dealers like to change oil often since it puts customers at ease. one of my teachers was also a GM tech, but he taught at their training center as well (gets his hands on all the new models). he told us that 3k miles is baloney unless ALL you do are short stop and go trips on a cold engine, just a few miles at operating temp will start to boil off the gasoline thats washed into the crank. he said that convention oils now (good ones) will do 5k change intervals for a commuter no problem, its the soccer moms you gotta watch out for.

well there you go. 99% of my driving is less than 5 miles. but it takes like 15 minutes to go those 5 miles. so my car usually reaches normal operating temperature for like 10 minutes. but it's still mostly stop and go.

[Bitter]

ya, thats what he calls 'soccer mom' driving.

[x_itchy_b_x]

horrible gas mileage here. just idling i can notice the needle going down... Very very slowly but still. boosting it drinks gas. but its not my daily anymore so its all good in the hood.

[Negative]

synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K)

Why? Even crapy synths are good to 6,000 miles, and the better ones go to 15,000 miles. Get a good quality filter (stay the hell away from Fram, they're CRAP - NAPA Gold is REALLY nice) and good synthetic (Pennzoil Platinum) and change it every 10,000 miles. Anything more frequent is a total waste, and doesn't protect your engine any better at all.

Go here for good oil data.

synthetic oil (changed religiously every 3K)

Why? Even crapy synths are good to 6,000 miles, and the better ones go to 15,000 miles. Get a good quality filter (stay the hell away from Fram, they're CRAP - NAPA Gold is REALLY nice) and good synthetic (Pennzoil Platinum) and change it every 10,000 miles. Anything more frequent is a total waste, and doesn't protect your engine any better at all.

Go here for good oil data.

That's completely true. Synthetic oils are known to actually last longer, and that is even way too short for NORMAL oil change intervals (Toyota encourages every 7500 miles). You can easily hit 10k miles and be just fine. And good suggestion on the Pennzoil Platinum, I use it in mine and it's a great oil. Also, change your oil filter every other oil change instead of each time, it saves you money and you're not wasting perfectly good oil filters.

BTW, I recently got 27MPG staying at 70MPH or below on the highway. Can't wait to get a K&N replacement filter to see if the mileage goes up.

-Matt

You should see my oil at 2500miles [Granted I live in Houston where there is traffic at 9PM on a weekday]. I use Mobile1 fully synthetic 15w-50 with a Toyota filter and change it at 2500-3Kmiles everytime. The oil is thin and black and the engine feels so much smoother after the change.
Furthermore I'm a lubrication engineer for large engines and compressors in the oil and natural gas industry. Unless you make mostly long highway trips you're above info is just dead wrong. The worst of which is the bit about reusing your oil filter. You can starve your motor for oil on an older engine with higher milelage like that.

[6strngs]

You should see my oil at 2500miles [Granted I live in Houston where there is traffic at 9PM on a weekday]. I use Mobile1 fully synthetic 15w-50 with a Toyota filter and change it at 2500-3Kmiles everytime. The oil is thin and black and the engine feels so much smoother after the change.
Furthermore I'm a lubrication engineer for large engines and compressors in the oil and natural gas industry. Unless you make mostly long highway trips you're above info is just dead wrong. The worst of which is the bit about reusing your oil filter. You can starve your motor for oil on an older engine with higher milelage like that.

x2 I use mobil one synthetic 10w-30 and toyota filters. when I change my oil after 3K it's usually way way darker than the brand new stuff I put it.

and I use a new filter everytime. it's not like changing the oil is a hard or expensive job, and it's not like you hurt anything by changing it more often.

[GotToyota]

For those that are doubting me, read this forum here:

http://www.supramania.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=108

Very good info, you'll learn something.

-Matt

[Negative]

I'm not doubting you - we just obviously drive differently. I told you I am an Engineer at a lubrication system Manufacturer [Engineering Manager to be exact] and I'm fully aware of the benifits of synthetic oils [also the downsides] - that's why I use them religiously. But my oil is pretty broken down @ 3K miles and that's why I change it then. You do what works for you.
BTW - Check the viscosity , just with your fingers, the next time your odometer gets to 3K. Be sure to have some fresh oil to compare to. I think you will be able to feel the difference. For people who are fanatical about maintaining their engines like 6strings and I - thats reason enough to change out more often. And certainly never to reuse oil filters.
BTW2 - Just because they drive Supras doesn't make them experts on lubrication.

This post has been edited by Negative: Apr 26, 2007 - 4:28 PM

[Jeremiah]

Can't wait to get a K&N replacement filter to see if the mileage goes up.

I hope that's K&N air filter only *shudder*. Their Oil filters are the only ones as bad as Frams. They're total crap.

toyota recommends 7500 under normal use and like 3750 under severe conditions.

Keep in mind, many factory recommended service intervals are just plain wrong sometimes.

Your change interval should take into consideration the following:
1) Your driving conditions. Sever driving (Stop & Go, Short-Trips, High Temp, Forced Induction, Racing, 4 Wheeling...) conditions will require more frequent changes.
2) The quality / type of your oil & filter.

what most people don't seem to realize is, that just driving your car around the city or stop and go traffic (is there ever anything else in california?) are all considered severe conditions.

Yes and No. Stop and go driving is more harsh because:
1) During idling, the engine oil pressure is at it's lowest. However, this isn't as big of a factor for most Toyota engines. Honda & Toyota engines run more volume / higher pressure oil pumps than other manufacturers, so even at idle the internal bits are well lubricated.

2) During acceleration, more gas is needed to get an engine moving, so there's a higher percentage of fuel/air ratio (I think yota's are 14.5:1) during acceleration. This extra gas bathes off more oil from the cylinder walls, and more fuel "seeps" into the oil system (which makes it go bad sooner). It's the latter we're concerned with when addressing change intervals. Newer formulations of oil (including conventional oil, but especially synth oil) are WAY WAY WAY better at handling extra fuel / moisture in them than the oils of old.

he was a GM service technician for 10 years and has been teaching college level automotive classes for several years since.

Oil analysis tests done after oil was pulled from an engine says otherwise. Trust whatever source you wish.
What is oil analysis
Several charts & graphs and other fun data sources

Unless you make mostly long highway trips you're above info is just dead wrong.

Do you have any data to support this? I ask because other engineers in the oil industry don't agree with you.
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http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/pos...&Board=UBB6
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http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/index.aspx
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Throwing out blanket statements without regard to build quality, formulations, or brands discredits your statements. It stands to reason (and there's tuns of oil analysis to back this up) good quality oils & filters will have longer service intervals than poor quality ones.

I use Mobile1 fully synthetic 15w-50

It's hard for me to take you seriously when you're using a crappy oil (Mobile 1 re-formulated a while back, and it sucks now), and anything higher than 10W-30.

The worst of which is the bit about reusing your oil filter. You can starve your motor for oil on an older engine with higher milelage like that.

It's completely clear to me you have no fundamental knowledge of how oil filters work. You're inferring to the oil filter getting too clogged to allow proper oil flow through the oil system. In the US, oil filter manufacturers are required by law to have bypass filters specifically to make sure the engine doesn't fail due to oil starvation.

The worst that can happen is that the filter will get clogged with contaminants, and the bypass filter will allow unfiltered oil to flow through the system. In the hundreds of oil filter tests I have read about, none - not a SINGLE oil filter (not even the HORRIBLE QUALITY ONES) had got so many contaminants in it that it was starving the engine, or even utilizing the bypass valve as long as the filter was changed before 10,000 miles. Amsoil EaO, Purolators and Wix (Also sold under Napa Gold label) are known to easily reach 15,000 miles and not be anywhere near clogging - even with guys who are 4 wheeling (which makes for some of the dirtiest oil).

That said, I change my oil filter at every oil change anyway 'cause I run a K&N air filter which dirties up the oil 2x faster than a paper filter

[GotToyota]

Negative: I never said that they were experts because they drive Supras. Look for a guy named "JDUB" on that forum, tell him what you told me and I bet he'd laugh at you.

Jeremiah: I'm talking about the air filter, trust me, I know K&N oil filters are crap. And thanks for bringing up factual info, a lot of people can talk but don't have facts to back it up.

-Matt

[Jeremiah]

And thanks for bringing up factual info, a lot of people can talk but don't have facts to back it up.

No problem. I'm not claiming to be an expert here - but I'll trust the people claiming to be experts, and who have data that's been repeatable from other non-biased sources to back up their claims and theories.

[Bitter]

so lets compare gearing, my 4spd in the prizm at 60mph in OD with TCC on is running at just about 2100rpm. how about the 4spd or 5spd's in the celicas?

[GotToyota]

so lets compare gearing, my 4spd in the prizm at 60mph in OD with TCC on is running at just about 2100rpm. how about the 4spd or 5spd's in the celicas?

At 55mph I'm at about 2100-2200 RPM in 5th gear.

-Matt

This post has been edited by GotToyota: May 1, 2007 - 10:53 PM

[6strngs]

I shift into 5th at 40 mph to cruise at 2000 rpms... 5th gear at 80 mph is 4000 rpms.

nice for accelleration, terrible for gas milage!

[GotToyota]

UPDATE! I just averaged 32MPG on my last tank of gas. 400 miles lasted me 3/4 of a tank (I fill up right around 1/4 tank left). I have a 5 speed, and shifted at 2500RPM in between every gear instead of the 3k like I used to do. I also went the speed limit, and was semi-light on the gas. Just wanted to let you guys know it is possible to get great gas mileage.

-Matt

This post has been edited by GotToyota: May 10, 2007 - 10:36 PM

[6strngs]

I just filled up tonight and calculated it out to 21.17 MPG....

[Daftboy]

no idea...company pays for my gas...:lol:

[95CelicaST]

I do mainly city driving (having to drive from school to school in the district) but sometimes I get on the freeway. I generally average 32-37MPG

[GotToyota]

I generally average 32-37MPG

Yes, but you're also an ST, I'm a GT.

-Matt

[Valo666]

I do usually 120km/h on the highway and i can get from here to Toronto *430KM* on 3/4 of a tank..so i could probably get around 520KM to a tank...so i donno what that is as L/KM pr MPG

[bman]

average city driving/some highway

very high 20's/low 30's depends how i drive

I'll get around 400 miles per fill up (running the tank bone dry)

[86atc250r]

I just skimmed this thread and am very surprised at the mileage many GT owners are getting.

I've owned my 94 GT since late 94. When I got it, it had 264 miles and had been hit hard in the front (dealer demo car). We repaired it & I've been driving it since.

I don't think in the 140,000 miles I've driven it, I've ever averaged less than 25mpg under any driving conditions (and the first 100K miles rarely saw a shift below 5000 RPM in the first few gears).

I typically get about 28 to 29mpg under my driving conditions which range from 50/50 city hwy to probably 20/80 city hwy. The vast majority of my fill ups are probably at around 28mpg. Rarely I get as low as 27 and I've seen as much as 30.

If these cars were equipped with another gear to get the RPMs down, I bet mid 30's on the road would be commonplace.

I typically get around 330 to 350 miles before filling up. I've had 400+ mile tanks rarely. Doesn't seem to matter much how I drive it - mileage will only vary a little.

This post has been edited by 86atc250r: May 24, 2007 - 11:21 AM

[NaderG]

i get 300 miles out of 12.4 gallons , mixed freeway /city driving , not aggressive driving but i usually drive not less than 75 miles per hour on the freeway ... my car is a GT with auto tranny and i am avergin 24 MPG ( not good !)

[Racer_J]

Let me work this out... For comparrison:-

I filled my car the other day, cost £45.

Petrol/gas is £0.939 a Litre in UK at moment, so

45/0.939 = 47.9233 Litres bought.

UK Imperial Gallon is 4.54 Litres.

47.9233/4.54=10.555 Gallons

I get aroung 300 miles on a full tank too so

300/10.555 = 28.4225 Mpg Average.

[Eds94GT]

I just bought a 94 GT and I do not care what the milage is because the car I am driving now gets between 6-8 mpg. Its a 1969 SS chevelle with an LT4 pushing out 425 rwh. Thats why I got the celica. Be happy with what you have because it could be worse.

[Rayme]

I just got from a long highway trip, and got 675 KM on a tank, probably 700 if I were to run dry (7.8l/100 km,, 30 mpg)...I was impressed..I even took a picture hehe.


Just to say GT can have good gas mileage, even with a supposely drag inducting gt-four wing.

This post has been edited by Rayme: May 25, 2007 - 11:05 AM

[topshed]

Well I get average 450 miles between fill ups, thats filling to brim and its usually about 50 litres I put in. Thats a mixture of motorway and town driving, stick to speed limits going to work but "spirited"driving back Yo!

keith

This post has been edited by topshed: May 26, 2007 - 12:28 AM

[stephen_lee]

sadly i get about 21 mpg. but thats w/ alot of "spritied driving" and too much idling. i think im running a little ritch too.

[GTS13]

I get about 25 in city, but I have a soopa kick ass crack in my exaust manifold and lead foot. I usually cruise around 2500-3k rpms, usually 3k because I like to hop on it and go.

[stephen_lee]

yeah i knoe what you mean. i did tht for awhile and dipped to 18 MPG
around 3K is where our engine wakes up/is most efficient

[mneal2_92788]

hmm, i usually get about 25-32, depends on my method of drivin.
usually i go about 55-60 most everywhere(countryside) and i am in 5 gear at 55 at 2700 rpms. at 62 i am at 3k. ive gotten as much as 450 in a tank, but that was a one time week of highway driving.

[devilsden97]

gonna bump an oldie

326.4miles on 13.174gallons for 87oct with the 5sfe (injen intake only mod), auto, 87k miles on car.

24.78 MPG (combo of highway and stop and go)

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Aug 20, 2007 - 11:44 AM

[cHinaman727]

it seems to me like im getting 20 in my 5sfe, why would this be? mneal has a 94 gt just like me and i drive the same way, but you get 5 more...

im jealous

[95CelicaST]

With my black ST I'm getting ~450 to a tank. Thats mixed city and highway. My best gas mileage was 37MPG and average ~34

In the yelli Celi (which I was afraid for the gas mileage) I am getting about the same. Slighty less of course, but still in the low 30's. I had my worst mileage last week (lots and lots of traffic) and that was 28MPG. I am getting ~32 on average.

[OOBE]

A full tank of premium lasts me a bit over 200 miles. Boosting or not, it burns gas bad.

[mneal2_92788]

it seems to me like im getting 20 in my 5sfe, why would this be? mneal has a 94 gt just like me and i drive the same way, but you get 5 more...

im jealous

lol. well mine is kept up regularly and i have no mods under the hood. its all stock, and kept maintained. i get the best after my new plugs, wires, oil/oil filter, air filter, a complete tune up and new gaskets. i never drive it hard either, unless i got the extra money to pay for premium and take it to the track

[lagos]

i just checked mine the other day. had the AC on all week, and did mostly city driving with lots of boosting..... 15mpg!

[6strngs]

i just checked mine the other day. had the AC on all week, and did mostly city driving with lots of boosting..... 15mpg!

I haven't had a chance to check mine yet since I put the turbo on, but I've gone a little over 100 miles on half a tank... so my guess is about 15-ish too. lol

[xs94st]

i got like 330 miles on a full tank las time. duno what fill capacity is, but i know that i burn gas like no other. i gun it at signals n on freeways i average 90mph (with little traffic)

question tho..do yall drive with the OverDrive button on all the time? i put it on once i start reachin about 4500 rpm goin roughly 75mph.

[NgoFcukinWay]

about 25MPG mixed driving. ~240-265miles @ ~10.7gallons fill-ups. Usually shift by the time I hit 3000RPMs.

Highway's a different story. 80MPH @ ~3800-4000 RPMs FTL.

[Aleksander]

I use about 0.65 liters per 10 km when driving long. Google http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&q=0....n+mpg&meta= says that is around 36 MPG. I'm sure I could do better if I don't drive past people all the time and drive more economicaly.

I think it's strange how almost all you americans use one liter of fuel per 10 km All the time!?