quicker revving, more "punch" please! Options

[Stuart]

I have recently purchased my celica,perhaps i shouldnt have bought the 1.8, i dont know. its just not revvy enough.Too smooth and laid back. Any ideas! Be gentle with me it's my first time!

This post has been edited by Stuart: Jul 22, 2003 - 12:49 PM

[Supersprynt]

Get a flywheel.

[Stuart]

Thanks for that supersprynt.Should i get a lightened and balanced flywheel. Thats the sort of thing we get in the uk? or can i buy one off the shelf in the us?

[ghostdog]

the 1.8 puts out 115 hp, what do you expect.

some mods you can start with to make it more responsive:

tighten the throttle cable
install a high flow air filter

[95STHATCH]

Go get a high flow filter and see if its enough rev. I also have the 1.8 and I know what you are saying,I bought a high flow filter and revs higher,,,quicker but always remember that its a 1.8

[97sccelica]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Jul 22, 2003 - 11:50 AM)

the 1.8 puts out 115 hp, what do you expect. some mods you can start with to make it more responsive: tighten the throttle cable install a high flow air filter

i see no point in tightening the throttle cable unless it is VERY VERY loose, to the point where you have to press the pedal half way down to get anything above idle.

my cable is a little loose but when the car is off and im messing with my safc, if i put the pedal to the floor the throttle percentage still reads 100%.

a drop in air filter will help, but dont expect huge gains from any bolt on mods for the 7afe engine.

FI is the only way to get a decent amount of power out of the engine.

[Supersprynt]

u have an ST - power is hopeless. Mod it to make a nice sound and quicker pick up, the flywheel is going to give you quicker revs, the lighter it is the quicker they are, but its alot of money (250+) just for the flywheel to get quicker revs and a lil more power to the wheels.

[HyperDeathKill]

Yea, you need to consider FI or no2. Anythign else, expect to see minimal gains.

[Stuart]

Thanks for the advice guys.I approached a engine specialist 2day who seemed to know a bit about 6gc's.If i have the flywheel lightened and balanced,the cylinderhead ported and flowed, bronze guides,kent cam and a vernier pulley, he recons i should be pushing 140bhp.what u say?

[HyperDeathKill]

Hmmm.... it could happen.

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (Stuart @ Jul 23, 2003 - 11:56 AM)

Thanks for the advice guys.I approached a engine specialist 2day who seemed to know a bit about 6gc's.If i have the flywheel lightened and balanced,the cylinderhead ported and flowed, bronze guides,kent cam and a vernier pulley, he recons i should be pushing 140bhp.what u say?

how much is all that going to cost? you could spend 3k USD and get a turbo kit or engine swap. both of those options will net you about 200 bhp. think about it.

[Uppitycracker]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Jul 22, 2003 - 11:50 AM)

the 1.8 puts out 115 hp, what do you expect.

From what I have read about the st is it only has 100-110hp stock? I saw this on consumerguide.com, and they have pretty accurate information.

[Inferno]

Yeah, I think Ray was saying something about this the other day. I think it has something to do with having the UK ST or being out of California. Not sure. Anyhow, power is not going to come cheeply. My answer is the same for everyone, do the swap.

[FAQdaWorld]

Doesnt the 1994 Celica ST put out 115 HP, and i forget the GT's number; anyways after that the HP dropped for both types of Celica (GT & ST), and from then on the ST Celica had 110 HP. I forget why tho... I am pretty sure that is on here somewhere on this site....

I dont know...


-Ryan

[HyperDeathKill]

All 6th Gens:
ST204 USDM GT: 135 horse
ST200 UDSM ST: 115 horse, 110 in CA due to emissions.

[BlackSTX]

96+ ST's make only 105 HP and 117 ft./lbs. of torque.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

QUOTE (Stuart @ Jul 22, 2003 - 1:46 AM)

Be gentle with me it's my first time!

like a virgin doin it for the very first time

[HyperDeathKill]

Black, that's not what it says in my Chiltons.

[HyperDeathKill]

lemme check it again tonight, but I'm almost 100% sure I'm right.

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (Stuart @ Jul 22, 2003 - 3:46 AM)

I have recently purchased my celica,perhaps i shouldnt have bought the 1.8, i dont know. its just not revvy enough.Too smooth and laid back. Any ideas! Be gentle with me it's my first time!

i don't know if this has been pointed out, but the 7afe is not a high-revving engine like a honda. it's a torque engine, with not a lot of torque. i mean, even if you had quicker revs, the redline is still at 5800 RPMs, nothing you do to the flywheel or anything else will change that.

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (Stuart @ Jul 23, 2003 - 1:56 PM)

Thanks for the advice guys.I approached a engine specialist 2day who seemed to know a bit about 6gc's.If i have the flywheel lightened and balanced,the cylinderhead ported and flowed, bronze guides,kent cam and a vernier pulley, he recons i should be pushing 140bhp.what u say?

that's probably a ridiculous amount of money for 30 HP. i dunno, if it's like 1500 for that stuff, just put the $$ towards a swap. you'll never get really good NA numbers out of a 7afe.

[Striking4]

I disagree that you cannot get good numbers out of the 7A-FE engine. It just takes a little more work.

One of the easiest and cheapest ways to make your engine quicker is to go down the road of lightened parts. By using lighter parts the engine has to use less force to get the parts moving and can therefor transfer more energy to the wheels. It is all about inertia and momentum. Some of the parts that you can get are the lightened flywheel that you were talking about. Also, lightened underdrive pulleys and cam sprockets. You will notice a definate difference with even just one or two of these things. OBX offers the pulleys and sprockets and several companies offer the flywheels.

Other things you can look at that are not overly expensive are a high flow air intake or a piggy back module for your ecu. Both of these can help to add 10-25 horsepower depending on what you get.

I hope this helps out a bit.

This post has been edited by Striking4: Aug 1, 2003 - 3:28 PM