SveNRG GT-Two, Project from the Netherlands: 3S-GTE swap Options

[SveNRG]

Hi all!

"I'm from Holland, ieshnt that weeeeird?" Bought myself a red AT200 Celica in october of 2005. Wow! I love this car. Here's a picture outside the carwash, somewhere in Amsterdam, where I live:



Got used to the available 116 bhp pretty fast though. And also learned more about the different 6th gen versions available. So I started browsing for options to make this a better car. Beginning of 2007 I went down to a junkyard because a friend of mine told me there was a ST205 wreckage there. Needed a rear-stutbar and antenna-unit, so went down to get some parts. But when I saw her, I knew it wasn't a wreck at all!



Just some exterior damage from a front collision and rotten exhaust system. Started the engine up and was running fine. So I bought the whole thing. First considered to get her fixed up and running again. But it was not cost efficient enough. There were no papers with it, so would've gotten a new registration for it. Very strict and expensive procedure here in Netherlands. Also it is a JDM, so right hand drive. So after careful consideration I decided to have it swapped to my own Celica instead. Don't be sad for the GT-Four, it will be restored by a friend, after my swap is done, with a clip from Japan and other parts, so it'll be back on the road soon Maybe converted to left-hand drive as well.

Things to be swapped over:

3rd gen JDM 3S-GTE engine with ct20b turbo
Superstrut suspension
ST205 brake calipers
Bonnet
96+ sideskirts

The bonnet has a nasty dent in it from a collision but will be fixed. New bumper shell. Found a very rare transmission from a '98 JDM SS-II or SS-III Celica. Very strong, low mileage. It's really just like an MR2 tranny. Was my lucky day because it turned out to have a limited slip differential as well. There were some problems with the gearbox though, broken bearing inside, and one axle missing. Had to get the thing opened up and totally refurbished. The bearings and synchromesh cost me a small fortune in itself, but it'll all be worth it in the end. The missing axle will be forged from ST205 and MR2 turbo axle parts. Yes, I'm having the difficult stuff done by someone who knows what he's doing. Same guy who also did Kadett's swap last year.

New clutch install, new brake discs and pads, steel braided brake lines. Exhaust: 3" stainless custom piping all the way to the end, HKS HiPower backbox with 12cm tip. Was missing some bumper parts for the front conversion (donor banged up more than I thought), but thanks to some guys at GT4OC.net I was able to find parts in the UK. Also having the throttle cable adjusted. The one from the donor was way too long.

Idea of what it will look like, just add projector headlights and clear turn signals to it:


The engine is in. Transmission, exhaust, suspension and brakes have been fitted. Some spacers had to be used to fit the huge calipers in my 17" technomagnesio wheels. Also found some lower arms as spares for cheap. New clutch, overhauled gearbox, new belts, sparkplugs, filters, airco removed... this will be one sweet ride! Only waiting on the throttle cable and some little pieces for the bumper now. The new axle will be done next week. And then off to the bodyshop!

Some more pics here: Gallery

This post has been edited by SveNRG: May 12, 2007 - 4:40 PM

[spolski07]

your lucky! lol
congrats man and keep up the good work!

[snapshotgt]

Very nice car.

[goferris]

shoulda just put your tags from the at200 on the gt4 and then put your front bumper on there as well. the authorities wouldn't ever notice.
good find though.
us americans would kill to get our hands on a gt4

[Rockford]

Good luck with your project....

[purplegt4]

nice car/gallery!

[supradog1]

this is going to be be, ONE SICK CELICA!!!

[jason]

i actually like your current side skirts, dont see them too often. congrats and best of luck with the swap!! im sure you'll be happy with all that power!

[SveNRG]

You guys like the european skirt huh? They're ok, but every 94-96 Celica here has them. I like the facelift skirts better. They're up for sale by the way, but shipping is a bitch.

[Valo666]

dibs..lol. check your pm.

[Dub]

SveNRG: does it mean you're doing the engine swap only? Will it be FWD only?

Thumbs up, it will be a nice "innocent looking" drive !


I am doing the same in 1-2 months and will add front differential (dunno it's written correctly) to prevent slipping wheels.

[SveNRG]

SveNRG: does it mean you're doing the engine swap only? Will it be FWD only?
Thumbs up, it will be a nice "innocent looking" drive !
I am doing the same in 1-2 months and will add front differential (dunno it's written correctly) to prevent slipping wheels.

Innocent? I think it's pretty agressive looking with the full front conversion and all Yes, the Celica will remain FWD. The diff will help keep all that meaty power on the road. The gearbox and axles are finished now. They go in this thursday. Should be totally finished by next week. Stay tuned for pics by then!

[Negative]

SveNRG: does it mean you're doing the engine swap only? Will it be FWD only?

Hence the nickname - GT-TWO. That's what most of us used to call the swap back in the day before they got common.

[Dub]

Innocent? I think it's pretty agressive looking with the full front conversion and all

Nah, it looks awesome, just it does not have the huge rear wing and so from back rear it seems as "ordinary GT", but from front seems like hiding beast inside

BTW, will engine have stock HP ? So that means standard 245HP ? Or you plan on tweaking it up ?

[SveNRG]

Nah, it looks awesome, just it does not have the huge rear wing and so from back rear it seems as "ordinary GT", but from front seems like hiding beast inside BTW, will engine have stock HP ? So that means standard 245HP ? Or you plan on tweaking it up ?

I don't like the huge rear wingm or raiser blocks as they are called. Makes it look like a toy car in my opinion. I am going for the GT spoiler though. The one I have now is the ST model, it's slightly smaller. Power? It's the japanese engine. So rated at 255 HP. Should mention that they have higher octane fuel overseas in Japan though. RON100. We only go up to 98 or 99. The catless exhaust should make up for the loss. Did I mention it's a whopping 200 pounds lighter than it's GT-Four counterpart?

We'll put her on the dyno some day, and we'll know for sure.

[Bigwaaagh]

Nice work, it's good to see dutch Celica action!

My celi still has a long way to go...

[SveNRG]

Today I've been to bring some last parts with a friend. The Celica is as good as finished, technically speaking! First run today, without hood or bumper Another week for the body work and paint job, and then it's finished! The exhaust sounds great, the transmission is excellent. It goes like a devil!

Pics! Youtube! Download video

Sorry for the soundtrack rip-off

[Valo666]

lol..i love the running with no front any thing..lol

[Dub]

SveNRG: I would have a couple of questions:

- clutch - which one you installed? stock for 3SGE? or 3SGTE? If not stock, what brand?
- transmission - is this the stock one? for 3SGE?

Thanks.

[SveNRG]

- clutch - which one you installed? stock for 3SGE? or 3SGTE? If not stock, what brand?
- transmission - is this the stock one? for 3SGE?

The clutch is 3S-GTE. Pressure plate and disc, all stock.

About the transmission. Like I saidin start post: "... a very rare transmission from a '98 JDM SS-II or SS-III Celica. Very strong, low mileage. It's really just like an MR2 tranny. Was my lucky day because it turned out to have a limited slip differential as well." - It's a 3S-GE transmission, but special edition.

[Dub]

"... a very rare transmission from a '98 JDM SS-II or SS-III Celica. Very strong, low mileage. It's really just like an MR2 tranny. " - It's a 3S-GE transmission, but special edition.

I'm curious, cause I have a SS-II edition and am wondering if my transmission will fit the 3SGTE.
Regarding the clutch, so it seems i need to purchase a stock 3SGTE clutch (engine does not come with clutch installed). I was also curious, as the diameters of 3SGTE clutch are different to the ones of 3SGE.

[SveNRG]

"... a very rare transmission from a '98 JDM SS-II or SS-III Celica. Very strong, low mileage. It's really just like an MR2 tranny. " - It's a 3S-GE transmission, but special edition.

I'm curious, cause I have a SS-II edition and am wondering if my transmission will fit the 3SGTE.
Regarding the clutch, so it seems i need to purchase a stock 3SGTE clutch (engine does not come with clutch installed). I was also curious, as the diameters of 3SGTE clutch are different to the ones of 3SGE.

I'm pretty sure that if your inner axles are as thick as 3S-GTE, you will need the 3S-GTE clutch too.
Here they are compared. Left side is thickness of 3S-GTE axle, right side is normal 3S-GE axle.



This post has been edited by SveNRG: May 18, 2007 - 7:29 AM

[Toyoca]

nice car man.

so you live in amsterdam huh....hows life there =)~

[SveNRG]

nice car man.

so you live in amsterdam huh....hows life there =)~

How life is here? For cars: not very good...


Otherwise great!

[Toyoca]

nice car man.

so you live in amsterdam huh....hows life there =)~

How life is here? For cars: not very good...


Otherwise great!

hehe.

do you enjoy the coffeeshops?

[SveNRG]

Actually getting a bit tired from all the "Oh, you're from Amsterdam!" reactions on international forums. Seen some of my project topics go AWOL after some folks lose it and completely go off-topic, raving on about marihauna and hash for (p)ages, and with it, killing my thread.

Nevertheless, the Netherlands is a nice country, and our drugs policy is one of the best in the world imho. But give me a break, okay?

[Bigwaaagh]

Lol, I know those speedbumps.

Coffeeshops are so stereotipical, the're not only in Amsterdam, the're in almost every city in the Netherlands.

I for one do not enjoy the coffeeshops, I don't even smoke, but that certain "aroma" does waft around the office every once in a while .

But anyways, back to the topic at hand, really like how the car is progressing, I'd love to see the finished car.


This post has been edited by Bigwaaagh: May 18, 2007 - 12:22 PM

[Dub]

Sven: nice video, it seems when you pushed full throttle the tyres did not smoke at all, right? How's the handling with that torque upgrade?

And yes... pls post any update.. am curious how you progress, if the tranny holds

[SveNRG]

Got my car back on monday. It's a dream! I still have to get used to all the violence that it puts on the wheels. It's crazy fast! Already smoked a 2003 Subaru STI the same day, on an empty road. He got off to a better start thanks to his 4WD, but then I just smoked him. The limiter cut me off at 200km/h though.

Driving without rear spoiler atm, new one coming a.s.a.p. Found out that the late-spec 3-post spoiler doesn't fit on my rear end, where the ST spoiler was attached. The holes are too far apart. I'm guessing that I would've needed the late-spec trunk with 3rd brake light for it. Als still waiting for the bumper bar where the fogs are to be attached to. It's coming this week I hope.

You want pictures? You get pictures!



And here's the lot:
http://www.svenrg.nl/gallery/?folder=conte...;showmenu=false

[lagos]

car looks great man. enjoy your new found power.

[Kadett]

Yup car looks great, now we need to meet up very fast for our GT Two photoshoot

[3SGTE]

Nice SveNG, now you got more than double bhp output, from 116bhp - 255bhp, awesome eh!! just keep that baby ON the road.....

This post has been edited by 3SGTE: Jun 13, 2007 - 10:24 AM

[tomazws]

Damn that's one HOT CAR!

[SveNRG]

Thanks people! Martinking is getting me the GT spoiler when I am at JAE this july. I'm not fitting it with riser blocks. Not my taste.

I'm looking for some wheel adjustments now. Short term: The front wheels are too much outward with spacers (25mm) but to fit the ST205 calipers in there, only half is really needed. Will need some longer lug nuts to fit 15mm spacers someone told me. The rear wheels don't have spacers but I want to bring them outward so they flush with the chassis.

Long term: Looking for 18" wheels. I want to flush the wheels without having to use spacers at all. Also need 8J on all four to make for 225 or 235 tires. Front is 7J now, that's maxed out at 215 tires. Choosing wheels is hard.

Other plans:
Blitz replacement air filter
Motul 300v 10w40 oil
Fitting those damn fog lights once the crash bar arrives
Getting some recaro's or refurbish the seats
3-point Strutbar for the engine bay
Maybe stiffer springs, thinking TRD for a slight drop also
Doorhandles and mirrors getting sprayed

[shin]

is it just me or does he have huge brakes in the front? Hot Celi man!

edit: nvm. just read his post before mine.

This post has been edited by shin: Jun 13, 2007 - 5:39 PM

[GreenyST204]

dat is één aardige auto SveNRG
Ik hoop dat mijn Nederland niet aan slecht
ik spreek beter dan kan ik schrijven.
ook speel jij Tiesto binnen jouw nieuw GT4
ik mis de muziek
JaMes

[Bigwaaagh]

Strakke auto SvenRG!

dat is één aardige auto SveNRG
Ik hoop dat mijn Nederland niet aan slecht
ik spreek beter dan kan ik schrijven.
ook speel jij Tiesto binnen jouw nieuw GT4
ik mis de muziek biggrin.gif
JaMes

Dat is niet slecht geschreven, en goed te snappen!

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Tight car SvenRG!

dat is één aardige auto SveNRG
Ik hoop dat mijn Nederland niet aan slecht
ik spreek beter dan kan ik schrijven.
ook speel jij Tiesto binnen jouw nieuw GT4
ik mis de muziek biggrin.gif
JaMes

That isn't badly written, and very understandable!

[GreenyST204]

Thanks Bigwaaagh,

us Aussies arn't to bad
wij Aussies niet te Slecht

[SveNRG]

Going to lower the car. But not too much!
These TRD's give a 20-25mm drop on a ST205. Stock feel.



TRD Low Height Spring Set 48130-ST021
Set of 2. Front. K=43.1N/mm. Using the ST202 TRD springs for rear.
Also ordered Ichiba spacers plus longer bolts 5x100 15mm for all wheels.
I've currently got 25mm spacers on the front. Way too much.

In other news: found my dreamwheels.
Gram Lights 57 maximum-pro. 18"/7.5J custom offset. I'm gonna save up for these!

Click!

This post has been edited by SveNRG: Jun 15, 2007 - 9:44 AM

[snapshotgt]

Looks amazing. Congrats on the power as well.

[Fate]

looks great! would you happen to have more pics of the car as it sits right now? i' trying to figure out if i still want the spoilerless look with my gt4 front. thanks.

[Kadett]

looks great! would you happen to have more pics of the car as it sits right now? i' trying to figure out if i still want the spoilerless look with my gt4 front. thanks.

If the rains stays away you will have enough pictures of the car in about 5-6 hours. Gonna place the GT4 Crashbar/fog lights on his ride when he comes here.

[Kadett]

We couldn't place the crashbar since the bolts to bolt them were missing. I can't drive my car because of a rubbing issue in the back (225/40/18 Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres does rub on a 7.5 ET 28 rim ) Anyhow, sun was shining so we made a few pics next to each other.













This post has been edited by Kadett: Jun 17, 2007 - 11:19 AM

[SveNRG]

And here's some more! I'm not in the pictures. But Kadett is.
He's the one with the blue skies in the back.

























This post has been edited by SveNRG: Jun 17, 2007 - 4:53 PM

[tim86]

nice pics!!! both celicas look great, they go very well together...

[Kadett]

In 2 weeks they will look more the same Hopefully my 3" Exhaust system with the HKS Hipower is finished then

[SveNRG]

Because spacers with longer studs are not an option for superstrut suspension, I'm forced to get some new wheels. Oh no, what a punishment!

Here's some candidates...

WedsSport tc10sN


5zigen FN01RC


OZ Ultraleggera


Work CR-KAI


What do you guys think? It's gonna be 18" 7,5 or 8J, 35ET

[Kadett]

OZ Of course

[G3D45]

5zigen FN01RC?

[Davesceli]

wedsports or the works...either one would be hot

[jason]

x2 for the oz's

[Valo666]

x3 of OZ...my next set of rims are gonna b OZ ultraleggara's in matte black.

[goferris]

for not wanting the risers i think your choice of spoiler is perfect. the euro 2 poster. looks great.