tell me about speed limiter???, speed limiter in celica Options

[yuvelq]

please tell me about speed limiter on Celica???

[Magic]

Ehmm....for the JDM cars,all the JDM cars the speed limit is @180Kms For more information i think we should ask the Japanese Goverment!!!

[Supersprynt]

There are people saying that they hit one at 115 and others saying 125, i dunno if it depends on the ST or GT or what. I went to 120 with my GT and was fine. I have an RSM with cuts out the speed limiter on my JDM ecu so ... hehehe

[hata]

since i'm a ST, I hit 115 but that dosent mean shiet...cause if u dont care about the "big jerk" that happnz around that speed...then ur car will keep goin. I didnt go the fastest I wanted 2 go but teh fastest I ever did though waz like 120-ish an the car waz about (what it looked like) 5,700k-ish...

[Coomer]

Moved to engine/performance.

[zigy]

the actuall limiter is around 115 mph for US-spec 7afe

- In first couple months that I owned my ST - I kept maxing it out at 115

all it does is you hear a jerk - comp cuts of ur fuel - and your RPMs go down like crazy -

-then I got 17" Konig Imagine (have 7 of them - 2 are on garage wall "busted" - 1 spare - 4 on)
and with those wheels it threw off the Speedometer @ around 119


*then I had an accident - almost everything was replaced except the engine block
-and SINCE THEN i've went far more then 115-119


I could've never TEST the true capabilities of STOCK - st - ; because after the repair - the car went to Tuner

shop for mods.... BUT I think that stock ST wouldn't go more then 125mph on regular tires/rims

[TigerWoodsJr]

The speed limiter on my 95 was the rev limiter in 6th gear...I had it going 132 down the highway with stock tires and everything, was into redline...and then on ice one time this winter I hit 135 as I banged off the rev limiter in 5th. So thats that.

[madlion586]

What's an RSM and how does it defeat the limiter?

[VietCelicaGt]

i have a 95 gt and i went 140 and was fine..i was racin my bro prelude.his prelude 95 jdm engine 5 spd and so so.mine was hks turbo and injen intake kit

[SpedToe169]

I managed to remove the limiter for free. All you have to do is cut the speed signal just before the ecu. The only downside is it triggers a CEL.

The limiter is at 111.1mph (GPS verified)
My slightly modded ST will now go 123.9 on level ground with no wind.

I'm out of town for work right now, I'll try to get the ECU pin number when I get back.

[97sccelica]

1994-1995 celica ST manual-- orange wire, number 11 on the thrid connector o

1994-1995 celica ST auto-- orange wire, third connector, wire number 9

1996-1998 celica ST both auto and manual-- orange wire, third connector, wire number 9

check this image from the safc2 install how-to the connector on the right is the third connector



when my speedo reads 115, i get the fuel cut at about 4200rpm. i was very tempted to cut the wire and install a switch inline but i rarely hit my speed limiter and i actually see the limter as a good thing.

i wil try to disable it one day and go to the local sheriffs department and see if they can tell me where to go for high speed testing.

[ScoobyDooCruiser]

[Cody]

We seriously need a 6th gear if we wanna go over 115.

[snadman]

I could only go like 120 in my 95 GT. I spose I could've gone faster if it hadn't been for my friend yelling "dude it's a cop in the ditch"...all of a sudden fuzz buster goes crazy...slam on the brakes. Phew. Maybe I could've gone faster?

[97sccelica]

[SpedToe169]

[Guest_Matthew_*]

[97sccelica]

[slowceli]

hey it worked finally no governer. took a whole 15 min. to do cause i put in a toggle switch so my check engine light wouldn't be on all the time. managed to get my st up to 130 mph before i backed off it. little to close to red line for me.

i need taller gears

[Guest_Matthew_*]

i want to see proof of these 130-135 mph runs


i have been in 3 different celica GT's and each one tops out around 120 or so.

One is my 98 Auto
and one was a 94 gt manual
the other was a 99 gt manual

[97sccelica]

[slowceli]

i will try to get a pic. by next weekend.

[97sccelica]

[slowceli]

sorry guys i havent had a chance to get a pic. but hopefully next week i will have time to jump on the freeway and get a pic

[kamax]

=d this sound kinda bs but i dunno. i have a 94 gt manual with about 70k miles on it. rev limiter is at 5800 or around there on 5th gear and that's about 120-121 or whatever closer. can't go any faster. I did however went up to 125.. took a while but it was down hill also. maybe the celica get go higher top then that but you gotta remove the gonvenor. I dunno how an ST can go 130 .... need some pic or else i would have to call it BS =D no offense

[slowceli]

this is a very busy week for me becasue we are getting ready for a car show at my bosses place but as soon as i find time i will get a pic plus i dont have a digital camera so i will have to wait to get the film back. and yes it took a pretty far distance to get up to that speed. but no bs it will do it

[khye]

I have a JDM (Jap Import) Celica SS-II (3SGE)

The speedo reads in Kmph (180kmph being the uppermost speed on the dial)

So when I bought the car originallly it would hit the 180 limit and power would die, (Fuel being cut once reaching the 180 mark.)

I put bigger wheels on (18") and got a friend to drive behind me, I managed to get 198hmph. (My dial showed 180 but due to the bigger wheel diameter my speedo was out by a few KM)

I Put a speedo cable convertor onto my speedo cable and this has a gearing system inside a small box which when connected, makes the KMPH dials read out in MPH.

i.e. when my clock now shows that I am driving at 80KMPH, I am actually travelling at 80MPH

We use MPH here in Ireland, so most people who buy a Japanese import here usually spend quite a bit of money by replacing their entire dial cluster and fit a new one that reads in MPH.

Anyway..the point I want to make is this.....

Before I could go to 180KMPH (112mph) before the limiter kicked in.
Now with the converter installed, I presumed that I would hit the 112mph mark and would have the same issue........

Nope....the car went up to 138mph and there was still a little left, I'm sure if there was more road it would have gone another 5mph.

So, in my case fitting this simple device (GBP£100 including post and packaging from the UK) seems to have fixed my limiter issue.

Anyone else come across this?

[BlackSTX]

Yeah, I can barely get my auto ST up to 100 on level ground. I think downhill got it like 105, maybe. I may have been able to go a little faster with the OD off and really pushing it, but I think 110, 115 would have been the very upper limit.

[SuperMica]

My ST has an dual mode auto and it can reach 115 before full cut off with overdrive off and with it on it can get up to 125-128 before the car losses all power and it starts costing to a stop... Why because I was drafting my bf and also because my car engine had let go doing it...

[97sccelica]

[SuperMica]

QUOTE (BlackSTX @ Aug 27, 2003 - 7:01 AM)
Yeah, I can barely get my auto ST up to 100 on level ground. I think downhill got it like 105, maybe. I may have been able to go a little faster with the OD off and really pushing it, but I think 110, 115 would have been the very upper limit.


with OD off you will not go faster than 100-105


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Sorry but You are WRONG... did you for get that a 94-95 has 5 horses more, oh sorry mica I did not realize that... and yes my car can do that... Thank you have a nice day...
Mica in Devil mode again...
One more time and I will retire from CELICA's and wip all celicas okay later

[97sccelica]

[BlackSTX]

[NEVERSTOP]

[SpedToe169]

Keep in mind that the factory speedo is WAY off. Mines off by almost 6%. When its reading 133 I'm really only doing 125. GPS is about the only way to get an accurate reading.

[slowceli]

took the pic. got the film back today and it was one big blur so i will try to borrow one of my friends digital camera and try it again

[97sccelica]

[thedevilmaycrie]

ummm i hit 135mph on the I-15 south from fallbrook to san diego all i had was a air temp mod, cold air intake, and exhuast(2 1/2 inche pipe). no fuel cut off occured just the rev limiter kicked in and wouldnt let me pass 6,800 rpms

[snadman]

No. That's all BS. You guys sure you're reading the MPH and not KMPH? My GT won't go past 120. I've tried prolly two dozen times. Your ST's won't go no 130 if mine doesn't go 120. That's with a stock ECU, I haven't tried with the upgraded ECU.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

[97sccelica]

i know for a fact that my ST can hit 115 and if it didnt have the speed limiter it would go a little faster and thats on flat roads/highways.

now that i have the turbo on, i dont question the fact that i can go faster if the limiter was cut

This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Sep 21, 2003 - 11:28 PM

[snadman]

agreed with you GT2GT4...you're eactly right. It doesn't really bog out, it just won't go past 120...it like sits there and jitters on 119 and 120.

[bigwerm]

SEE i don't think the speedo is that off, cause everyday i work, i go pass a poll mounted radar gun, and ive done about 85-90 past it, and it always says the same speed as my speedo..

[bg_driver]

My AUTOMATIC 3SGE japan celica go to 190 km/h and hit the limiter ...very easy...
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC4VCTWBoRA

how to cut this limit becouse on 3-th gear the car goes to 180 km/h and on 185 km/h just put hte 4 th gear and i thing there is more to show on the way...

cheers

[playr158]

winner of a 5 year old thread revival

[Promasta]

haha awesome thread
do cdn cars have a limiter? cause my car does 195km/h
on the track of course

[richee3]

Agreed with all the talk about ST's being able to do 130 being BS. My GT 5-speed will always hit 115 then won't go anymore. There's no rev limiter, it just won't go any faster. I've been going down a hill and hit 126. And I've ridden in my brother's friend's GT that has been treated better than mine ever since it rolled off the car lot and he got 135 down a really big hill. So if our GT's don't want to do it, why in the hell would a slow a** ST do it with ease? No offense guys, I know I'm sounding like a douchebag here, but I've had an ST and now I have a GT. I don't believe for one second that my ST would do anything over 115.

[silverceli09]

i want to see proof of these 130-135 mph runs


i have been in 3 different celica GT's and each one tops out around 120 or so.

One is my 98 Auto
and one was a 94 gt manual
the other was a 99 gt manual

i've had my 99' GT up to 135 and it was still slowly pulling...i cant remember where it was RPM wise. but i was at 135. i had to slow down due to a curve up ahead....so it is possible. my GT has never shut off. oh and this wasn't down hill. this was on a flat straight stretch. call me a liar....but i have no reason to lie to you all

[PHLCELICA]

I've been able to hit 125 on my 5 Spd 95 GT. Needle gets a bit slower but it does reach. Never had a cutoff.

[BonzaiCelica]

Well by the way guys. I have a 94 celica with cold air and headers. Now my limiter stops me at 115 mph at about 5700 rpm. So ya there is no way you can up to 130 on a st celica. Now i plan on getting 17'" rims and new tires and taking off the limiter within the next 2 weeks. So i'll get some pics of my toping out my car before and after i take of the limiter. Now my bro has a 95 camry dx manual transmission with 5sfe engine. He can go 125 tops on flat road and was able to go about 130-132 going downhill. So thats just goes to show the gt celica can indeed hit 130 mph....

[99GT]

what the hell do you guys need to go that fast for?

[richee3]

what the hell do you guys need to go that fast for?

Good question. I did it just to find out how fast my car would go. Quite frankly, going that fast in a car this small scares the hell out of me. I'd rather have my car shut off at 90 but get there faster than everything else. That's just me though.

[slick_celica]

i have an RSM on my car that wires into the ecu and cuts out the speed limiter and i'm going for a rolling road, bhp, torque and top speed run on the 7th of december so we'll see what she hits then but she is what she is, as long as she can overtake the car in front i'm happy

[99GT]

If I had a GT4 I'll be worth testing. But my Gt I'll save my gas.

Theres an open road in Northern MN, it's paved also, and no speed limit posted and its an public road!

[RickJamesBish]

Fairly sure I topped out at around 115 as well, but I think it was rev limited. Flat highway.

[silverceli09]

what the hell do you guys need to go that fast for?

because its f'in awesome...its a rush...i see these cars that break 200 MPH and im just like "wow, that would be amazing"...i just love speed...yeah it will probably be the death of me some day lol, but i still love going fast. but also as richee3 said, i would love to have a car that can beat anything to 90, but i still want a car with a high top speed.

This post has been edited by silverceli09: Nov 25, 2008 - 9:58 PM

[richee3]

If I had a GT4 I'll be worth testing. But my Gt I'll save my gas.

Theres an open road in Northern MN, it's paved also, and no speed limit posted and its an public road!

What are the laws concerning unmarked speed limits in MN? I know here in Illinois, if the speed limit isn't posted, it's automatically 55. I'm just curious if it's like that in other states or if that's just here. I know Illinois is more strict than other states on a lot of laws.

[BonzaiCelica]

if i were to post any pics of me topping out my celica this post would get closed right???

[Promasta]

no because it will be "on the track" right?

[Mk4_30R]

i had my 97 ST up to like 110.. thats enough in that thing.

the 94 GT i took up to about 110 as well.. thats plenty fast in one of these cars when they are all stock. it takes a while to get up to that speed.

my GTI i can do 120 in 3rd gear.

[luisXRceli]

ya i was letting it open up last night and i was going 125 in 3rd before the engine cut me off... hahaha

[jason]

lmao 125 in 3rd gear???? 3rd takes me up to about 90 or so max iirc

you must have one of them crazy high revving celica's

[luisXRceli]

oh sorry didn't read the whole thread.

i have a 3SGTE swapp:)

[DEATH]

Doesn't have much to do with what your speeds are - more likely you are running an e153 tranny right? That has a direct effect on topspeed.
Still even then - 125MPH is very near the top of 5th for the S54 tranny - are the gear ratios that much different?

This post has been edited by DEATH: Dec 8, 2008 - 4:13 PM

[GriffGirl]

He's got Supersprynt's Celica IIRC

[DEATH]

He's got Supersprynt's Celica IIRC

He does.

[luisXRceli]

i do.

[richee3]

He does?

I wanted SuperSprynt's Celica, but I already had one of my own My car gets in the way of better cars too often lol.

[BonzaiCelica]

so from what ive read the 3rd gen 3sgte hits about 143 mph top speed. is this true. I believe the same goes for the SS-III with beams engine. I even asked a few members that had beams and they at 142 mph or 228 km/h they topped out.

But wondering about the speed limiter on the ST. they said they put the fuel cut at 111 mph cause of low speed rated tires. So even though it says 115 when i hit governor i guess its actually 111 mph. So anways looking at this website its about taking off the governor, but i was wondering if this is the right way to do it and if it is safe???

http://evilspeed.com/Speed_defeat.htm

[lagos]

i was wondering if this is the right way to do it and if it is safe???

No, it is not safe.

[95st-celica]

anyone ever top out the 3s..either 2nd or 3rd gen?

[BonzaiCelica]

oh really darn. Cause i was hoping that i could get rid of the governor this way. I think i saw that link posted on here a year ago. So the only way to get the governor cut off is by buying this.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetail...ers/Run_Up/8304

[stephen_lee]

no way would i spend that much on that

cut the wire
run thin gauge speaker wire between thw two sides of the cut wire
put a switch on it in the blank spaces under the steering wheel

i did. its not worth it though. STs will hit 120-125 downhill with help from wind.
Its not worth it, its not safe. DON'T do it.

[BonzaiCelica]

haha alright alright. I think i get the point but thx for that info. Helped me out a lot. wishing i could go a little faster. Just gonna have to wait for my swap later on

ya i see what you mean presure2. I would probably only go like 5 mph faster to like 120 on the speedometer and after that i'd probably be wasting gas.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 3, 2009 - 4:57 AM

[presure2]

seriously, who wants to drive 125+mph in a ST?
god it must take 10 miles of open, downhill road to get there.
i know the 5s was a DOG above 80mph before the turbo.

[playr158]

haha i was somewhere with a looooooong straight road i think i went WOT for 10 min or so and never went above 110-115 in the ST


However i have hit 154 in just about a mile w/o hitting the rev limiter....eerr sorry that was in the M3

[st18]

i hit 105 on the interstate and thats if im lucky! has any one thought about asking one of these guys with the venom 4oo if they have a higher speed i mean if im right its a stand alone? wouldn't that help?

[lagos]

Whats with all these automatic ST guys trying to go as fast as possible all of a sudden.
The problem is that you guys have 90hp under the hood going through an automatic trans. Stop putting your life in danger by trying to floor your car for 10 miles, just for some bs bragging rights. Grow up... really.

[st18]

Whats with all these automatic ST guys trying to go as fast as possible all of a sudden.
The problem is that you guys have 90hp under the hood going through an automatic trans. Stop putting your life in danger by trying to floor your car for 10 miles, just for some bs bragging rights. Grow up... really.

some times its not for braging wrights its for info, st gt it dont matter man i like to drag at the track and one day i hope my auto st is got enough power that i might need to go faster than 105 on the 1/4 mile

[Batman722]

one day i hope my auto st is got enough power that i might need to go faster than 105 on the 1/4 mile

[playr158]

Whats with all these automatic ST guys trying to go as fast as possible all of a sudden.
The problem is that you guys have 90hp under the hood going through an automatic trans. Stop putting your life in danger by trying to floor your car for 10 miles, just for some bs bragging rights. Grow up... really.

some times its not for braging wrights its for info, st gt it dont matter man i like to drag at the track and one day i hope my auto st is got enough power that i might need to go faster than 105 on the 1/4 mile

you'll need a 3s swap or a gooood turbo setup.
105 is a good mid 13 sec. 1/4

This post has been edited by playr158: Jan 4, 2009 - 12:07 AM

[Rayme]

what the hell do you guys need to go that fast for?

darwinism.

[stephen_lee]

Whats with all these automatic ST guys trying to go as fast as possible all of a sudden.
The problem is that you guys have 90hp under the hood going through an automatic trans. Stop putting your life in danger by trying to floor your car for 10 miles, just for some bs bragging rights. Grow up... really.

I have a 5 speed ST. and when i was 16 i HAD to try it out. Getting to 100 wasn't too bad, but after was a frozen bottle of molasses. Def didn't do it for bragging rights, but more out of curiosity.



EDIT: pic removed. bad idea

This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Jan 4, 2009 - 11:43 PM

[Zeros2]

just wanted to add but i got my 97 celica st up to 120 then the engine lights came on and wouldn't go any faster. And no it wasn't on 10 miles of flat ground i actually didn't take as long as i was expecting.

[barterj]

The speed limiter on my 95 was the rev limiter in 6th gear...I had it going 132 down the highway with stock tires and everything, was into redline...and then on ice one time this winter I hit 135 as I banged off the rev limiter in 5th. So thats that.

6th gear? Huh? you mean 5th?


mines a totally stock 94 GT. The fuel cut off (or something did) at 125mph. It just wouldn't accelerate anymore, even though it wasn't red lined yet. Oh well.

I have a 95 Celica GT, the reason your car won't go any faster stock is because at 125mph your engine is taching right around 5800 rpm, which is the end of the power band for the 5sfe. I get irritated cause civics have longer gear ratios and can get up to 135 stock, that's crap