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post Oct 30, 2007 - 9:03 PM
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There's been a lot of talk going around that the world will end in the year 2012. The famous prophet Nostradamus and also the Mayan Calendar have predicted the fate of the world will end on this year. Eerily enough, the lost book of Nostradamus predicts a lot of events in history including the Assasination of JFK, World Wars 1, 2, Adolf Hitler, Sadaam Hussein, assasination attempts of Pope John Paul II, bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the beheadings of Marie Antoinette and King Louis, Christopher Columbus, Napoleon, and obviously the infamous 9/11 attacks.

The lost book of Nostradamus was recently discovered in some major library in Italy. All the images that were drawn in this book have some relation to events that have occurred in recent history and many people believe that it was Nostradamus's premonition that we found the book at this exact time during all the chaos that our world is going through and that time would be 2012. Obviously astrology and the stars plays a big part of his predictions of armageddon but his track records of predicting major historical events is pretty good.

Anybody buy into this stuff?


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post Oct 30, 2007 - 9:08 PM
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No, its very easy to make connections after something occurs. When Nostradamus, and the Mayans can tell me something is going to happen (date, time, location) BEFORE it happens......then maybe ill begin to believe it.



edit: very interesting topic. To bad it will get out of hand and be closed in 3 days. :-(

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No.


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post Oct 30, 2007 - 9:15 PM
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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Oct 30, 2007 - 8:08 PM) [snapback]609879[/snapback]

edit: very interesting topic. To bad it will get out of hand and be closed in 3 days. :-(


laugh.gif Is that what Nostradamus says? laugh.gif

Edit: I don't believe in this stuff btw.

Nostradamus also predicted I'd edit my post 5 minuets after posting original comment. wink.gif laugh.gif

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post Oct 30, 2007 - 9:29 PM
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would not buy into it if they gave me an alltrac.

the world ended on january 1st, 2000..

don't yall remember?

or was it 2000?

actually, when it was 2000, the predictions really meant for 2001, the end of 2000..

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post Oct 30, 2007 - 9:39 PM
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Nostradamus didn't predict anything. His writings are so vague and encoded they can be taken as anything. The world has been predicted to end dozens of times.


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as far as i know the Mayan calendar doesnt really predict anything. it just happens to stop on 2012.


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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Oct 30, 2007 - 7:39 PM) [snapback]609894[/snapback]

Nostradamus didn't predict anything. His writings are so vague and encoded they can be taken as anything. The world has been predicted to end dozens of times.


Or so i thought so too until they discovered the actual book that nastradamus wrote. There are tons of illustrations in this manuscript and was recently discovered. Please explain the pictures of mushroom clouds in the actual book itself which is shown in the one of the last pages of the book. How the hell does a man that lives in the 16th century know what a mushroom cloud looks like? Also in the manuscript, every illustration depicts a crescent moon which we all know is a symbolism for Islamic faith.


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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 30, 2007 - 10:39 PM) [snapback]609911[/snapback]

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Oct 30, 2007 - 7:39 PM) [snapback]609894[/snapback]

Nostradamus didn't predict anything. His writings are so vague and encoded they can be taken as anything. The world has been predicted to end dozens of times.


Or so i thought so too until they discovered the actual book that nastradamus wrote. There are tons of illustrations in this manuscript and was recently discovered. Please explain the pictures of mushroom clouds in the actual book itself which is shown in the one of the last pages of the book. How the hell does a man that lives in the 16th century know what a mushroom cloud looks like? Also in the manuscript, every illustration depicts a crescent moon which we all know is a symbolism for Islamic faith.



he doesn't! thats exactly the thing. its like an ink blot test. the picture is what you want it to be. there is absolutely no way he knew about nuclear physics. unless Super Mario's Time Machine made it back to the 16th century and Mario chatted with him. cause we all know thats real too even though it was a video game right? tongue.gif


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post Oct 30, 2007 - 11:07 PM
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i myself was extremely skeptical on all this stuff and i usually dont buy into it. I thought the whole 2000 thing was b.s as well. But after seeing some of these illustrations on TV, it kinda makes u think about his predictions. LOTS of symbolism in these illustrations.

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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 30, 2007 - 10:39 PM) [snapback]609911[/snapback]

QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Oct 30, 2007 - 7:39 PM) [snapback]609894[/snapback]

Nostradamus didn't predict anything. His writings are so vague and encoded they can be taken as anything. The world has been predicted to end dozens of times.


Or so i thought so too until they discovered the actual book that nastradamus wrote. There are tons of illustrations in this manuscript and was recently discovered. Please explain the pictures of mushroom clouds in the actual book itself which is shown in the one of the last pages of the book. How the hell does a man that lives in the 16th century know what a mushroom cloud looks like? Also in the manuscript, every illustration depicts a crescent moon which we all know is a symbolism for Islamic faith.



he doesn't! thats exactly the thing. its like an ink blot test. the picture is what you want it to be. there is absolutely no way he knew about nuclear physics. unless Super Mario's Time Machine made it back to the 16th century and Mario chatted with him. cause we all know thats real too even though it was a video game right? tongue.gif


Have u actually seen the illustrations??? I have seen it on tv and its CLEARLY...and i do mean CLEARLY show a mushroom cloud. Its no inkblot.


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pole shift son. or the subterranean watchers that live in the hollow earth will come out and reveal all. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 30, 2007 - 11:39 PM) [snapback]609911[/snapback]

Or so i thought so too until they discovered the actual book that nastradamus wrote. There are tons of illustrations in this manuscript and was recently discovered. Please explain the pictures of mushroom clouds in the actual book itself which is shown in the one of the last pages of the book. How the hell does a man that lives in the 16th century know what a mushroom cloud looks like? Also in the manuscript, every illustration depicts a crescent moon which we all know is a symbolism for Islamic faith.

Who are "they"?
Has the book been authenticated?
If so, by who?
When was it written? Who wrote the book?
How do we know for sure the book was written by Nostradamus?
Do you believe everything they show on TV?

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QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 30, 2007 - 11:11 PM) [snapback]609920[/snapback]

pole shift son. or the subterranean watchers that live in the hollow earth will come out and reveal all. biggrin.gif

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I'll stick to hand palm readings, fortune cookies & astrology instead of this Nostradomus BS thank you.


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It's not "predictions" when you skew vague period quatrains to fit with History. To "predict" something, one must emphasize the "pre" portion of said diction. It certainly doesn't help when all of Nostradamus' "predictions" are "fulfilled" or "proven/interpreted"after the fact. Might as well call John Titor a "predictor" of our yet to be determined history.


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you said symbolism..

with symbolism, it depends on who you are, your background, n your feelings..ultimately, like tony said, it can be seen as anything! just depends on the person.

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thats jus my opinion tho..

the world will end........


someday.


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post Oct 31, 2007 - 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Oct 30, 2007 - 9:15 PM) [snapback]609922[/snapback]

QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 30, 2007 - 11:39 PM) [snapback]609911[/snapback]

Or so i thought so too until they discovered the actual book that nastradamus wrote. There are tons of illustrations in this manuscript and was recently discovered. Please explain the pictures of mushroom clouds in the actual book itself which is shown in the one of the last pages of the book. How the hell does a man that lives in the 16th century know what a mushroom cloud looks like? Also in the manuscript, every illustration depicts a crescent moon which we all know is a symbolism for Islamic faith.

Who are "they"?
Has the book been authenticated?
If so, by who?
When was it written? Who wrote the book?
How do we know for sure the book was written by Nostradamus?
Do you believe everything they show on TV?



The book is authentic written by somebody else, but there is factual proof that Nostradamus was the author of the book. The book went through tests to see if it was actually written by him (tests as in testing paper, ink, handwriting, illustrations, etc). The paper that was used was available during his time and quite commonly used during his time, however the last couple exerpts from the book were most likely not written by him because there was a high level of Zinc found in the ink which was an extremely expensive mineral at the time so it was unlikely that it was written in his lifetime. Im not saying i believe it 100% but I do find these discoveries interesting.

Even though i dont believe 100% of it, i can see myself believing a decent amount of it after seeing the book itself. There are not many words in this book but more symbolic illustrations because he didnt want the church to decipher his "predictions" because he was considered by the church to be an outcast. I think through words, its a lot easier to kinda manipulate the predictions, but its a lot harder to do that with images...for example, he had an illustration of a tower burning...right beside the burning tower, he had an illustration of 2 identically looking men (twins) jumping from the burning tower.

And nobody here has explained to me how theres an illustration of a mushroom cloud in this book?

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personaly..i dont think any of this stuff people "predict" is true. Yea he may have had some pics that resemble a mushroom cloud, etc..but he didnt say that Japan would get bombed..or the twin towers in NYC in what will be known as America will fall. 2 building any where in the world at any time could have been taken as his perdiction.

personaly, i think that people should live their lives and not worry about when the earth is gonna b done. Its like trying to perdict when or how you will die, one day, it will just happen and you shouldnt spend your life worrying and wondering about it.
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its human nature to think we know more then we do. One of the brains most basic, and exploited reactions, is to fill in blank parts of a story to find a solution. Thus when a book or person gives us vague facts, our brians want to fill in the blanks and make it true. This whole prophet thing is just a way to give human life a rhyme and reason, to show it follows rules, when in all actuality, there is no meaning to life, nor the end of it. Once people realize life can not be understood only then will we stop the impossable task of micro-managing every part of it. face it, we have no control over life, there is no grand and meanigful reason to life, other then to live it.


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QUOTE(SlickRick @ Oct 31, 2007 - 5:42 PM) [snapback]609983[/snapback]

........ there is no meaning to life.....we have no control over life...


Scientifically speaking the purpose of anyone's life is to live and pass on their's genes, thus "the survival of genes".

I dunno abt you but i can certainly control my life, of course not how my life will turn out but at least I can control whats happening now thus resulting the future's outcomes.

Abt the predictions, Im sure some of it are true but really we dont wanna know what will happen. But right now the best predictors would be Issac, Hiro and Peter (well Issac is dead)..LOL


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QUOTE(lubu @ Oct 31, 2007 - 10:01 AM) [snapback]609991[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlickRick @ Oct 31, 2007 - 5:42 PM) [snapback]609983[/snapback]

........ there is no meaning to life.....we have no control over life...


Scientifically speaking the purpose of anyone's life is to live and pass on their's genes, thus "the survival of genes".

I dunno abt you but i can certainly control my life, of course not how my life will turn out but at least I can control whats happening now thus resulting the future's outcomes.

Abt the predictions, Im sure some of it are true but really we dont wanna know what will happen. But right now the best predictors would be Issac, Hiro and Peter (well Issac is dead)..LOL


well u say u can control life, but no one can, you can only hope to control your thoughts and actions. Life is what is passing u by as your read this, you nor I can control that.


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no what he is saying is that he can contoll HIS life.. I can contoll MY life also.. I make the desicons the actions etc.. what i cannot controll is the outcome, but yes anyone can controll their life if chosen to do so.


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QUOTE(cnelson @ Oct 31, 2007 - 10:46 AM) [snapback]609996[/snapback]

no what he is saying is that he can contoll HIS life.. I can contoll MY life also.. I make the desicons the actions etc.. what i cannot controll is the outcome, but yes anyone can controll their life if chosen to do so.


thats what i am saying desicons and actions is not controlling life, that is only controlling yourself. But as a society would all like to think we have some say in what happend to us, but we dont. Even if we do good things and make good choices that is no guarantee that bad things wont happen. We all would like 2 think that if we do and act good, good will come, but it dont bcuz life does not make sense there is no reason to what life gives you. If u live your whole life in a forthright and kind manner and then one day u get killed by a drunk driver how did u choose that? Life is not what u plan on it to be, but more how u react to it. You can only hope 2 control yourself the rest is out of your hands. I see what u mean. I mean I choose not to do drugs, or get in to crime, but that only means i am good, not my life.


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i predict your world will end, soon as i convince you to try and walk across a 6 lane high way laugh.gif
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i dont believe it, but if it is true we will find out in 2012 then wont we.


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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Oct 31, 2007 - 3:08 PM) [snapback]610029[/snapback]

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I like SlickRick's assessment.

I think things like predictions, as vague and broad as they are, need a warning:

*subject to interpretation


I just drew a couple pictures in a book at work here. I think my coffee gave me driving clarity into the future so I thought I'd make a couple Nostradamus-ish predictions myself.

One is of the sun exploding and the earth being destroyed, but I'm not going to say when.

I also drew one of someone killing someone else and indicating that the person being killed was of some significance to the world. Not going to say who it is or exactly what he does, nor who kills him, nor when nor where, but I swear, it's going to happen! The coffee tells me so.


I also think you watch too much TV, but if you choose to find a bunker and hide out until 2012 comes and goes, that's your choice.



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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 31, 2007 - 1:33 AM) [snapback]609955[/snapback]

And nobody here has explained to me how theres an illustration of a mushroom cloud in this book?

Well, mushroom cloud can be caused by large impact (meteoroids, asteroids or comets) or volcano eruptions.

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every possible way the world will end


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this thread has 2 days to live....nostrodomous told me...and plyr go involved in it so its destin to come true!

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we will all soon be divided into four nations, and the quest for middle earth will begin.

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The world as we know it, will not end. Human civilization probably, if we keep killing the planet. Lets keep on using more gas rolleyes.gif

are San diego fires the first ?

I predict that nostradamus was right and wrong. He may have been high when he wrote. anyways nevermind to what i wrote since its all nonsense...... biggrin.gif


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looks like you just watched the history channel lately.
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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Oct 31, 2007 - 1:33 AM) [snapback]609955[/snapback]

And nobody here has explained to me how theres an illustration of a mushroom cloud in this book?


ooooo a mushroom cloud. oooohhh eeemmmm gggggeee. i can draw a picture of a flying hippo and maybe it will be a reality 1000000 years from now. I just predicted the future.
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quite true..we duno what those crazy cats used to do back in the day biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

omg..end of ze world..

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Unless something big all of a sudden I doubt the world will end in a blink in 2012...maybe the start of the end of the world????

How we define the start of it? lol

I personally don't care about the end of the world, nothing I can do about it, I'm in for the ride! The worst that can happen is I die....! w0tt!


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we have more stuff to worry about w/ that dumbass in the office than any **** in the future. Worry about now people. Pay your bills, Love your family, eat ice cream!

****, if the world was gonna end, then why the **** is anyone bothering to do ANYTHING at all?



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all you dummies that think things will end in 2012, look I have a propisition for you...the day before the "end" I'll buy your cars from you. You won't need them anymore right ?

the history channel is all about that, ancient history. If these "great" cultures can predict when the world will end, why couldn't they predict that their own civilization was going to dissapear ?

believe what you want, the world needs knuckleheads to laugh at smile.gif


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the end is near!


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post Nov 1, 2007 - 11:22 AM
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isn't the end tomorrow?


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QUOTE(shin @ Nov 2, 2007 - 1:22 AM) [snapback]610368[/snapback]

isn't the end tomorrow?


no actually it was yesterday..but then again we'll always have tomorrow.


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IDK.. keep buying loto tickets and showering. it ain't gonna happen tomorrow.


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Gotta love the Illuminati.

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