Need Help!! Electrical problem!!!, radio/clock doesnt work!!! Options

[MarcoGTS]

So yeah i got a blown fuse on my cig lighter/radio and so i replaced the fuse ....BUT the cig lighter works AND THE RADIO/ CLOCK DOESNT!!! I NEED YOUR HELP! does anyone know how to fix it? THANKS!!!

[MarcoGTS]

bump

[mneal2_92788]

i would check the fuses under the hood. if im not mistaken there may be one there too. idk and my entire under the hood fuse bax was shattered or i would look. gl
free bump

[MarcoGTS]

thanks! any other suggestions?? anyone??

[torhne]

im having sorta the same problem, inside lights dont work, window wont roll up, cd player wont work, nothing on the inside, but the air bag light will come on when i turn the key, and the engine will turn over

[MaskedMan]

2 questions.

Question 1. What did you do to blow the fuse in the first place?

Question 2. Does anything else in your car not work? Check your dome light, or your guages.


Diagnosis: There are 3 more fuses you should check and then report back to me your findings.
7.5A Panel
10A Dome
20A Radio

Take a look at those 3 fuses and see if they are blown. If you still can't figure it out, I will take a look at it tomorrow for you Marco. Ok I'm going to sleep now.

[MarcoGTS]

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH DERRICK!!! do you got any extra fuses by any chance? just in case i cant find any at home.... THANKS!!

[MaskedMan]

I have a whole collection of fuses in many different sizes, amperage and color. OOO just thinking about electrical wiring get's me all excited inside!

[MarcoGTS]

UPDATE i changed the nessessary bulbs but it still doesnt work! i checked the radio wiring and it looks fine! dang i dunno what to do now!!! >__<

[bccentaur3]

Does this have anything to do with the relays? I had an issue with the power iwndows and mirrors and also blower motor not work due to the starter selinoid. But this was in a BMW.

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Nov 11, 2007 - 9:36 PM

[lubu]

So yeah i got a blown fuse on my cig lighter/radio and so i replaced the fuse ....BUT the cig lighter works AND THE RADIO/ CLOCK DOESNT!!! I NEED YOUR HELP! does anyone know how to fix it? THANKS!!!

Probably one or more wires are burned...you'll need to trace them and do the necessary surgeries...or just hook the accessory wire (Accessory Gray + at Ignition Harness) to ur clock and radio ,that should do the trick.

[MaskedMan]

Dude Macro, I totally forgot you had this problem! I had all day yesterday that I could have helped you out with it haha. I'm going to come over with an EWD and volt meter and we are going to get to the bottom of this!

[MarcoGTS]

sooo derrick when u wanna come over and do dis??? this sunday?? oh yeah i also bought bulbs for my gauges and i will probably need your help on that too!! haha Thanks!!

[MaskedMan]

Hmm ok Sunday AS OF RIGHT NOW looks good hahaha. I'll let you know as it approaches closer. Remind me like the day before. Your never on aim so call me or myspace me haha. I would be glad to help you out with it, but I need your help with something too. Let me repaint some of your interior pieces please oh please! I will show you in person how to properly paint them and your interior will look fantastico!

[MarcoGTS]

sure u can paint my interiors!! hahaha

[MarcoGTS]

so yeah its been several days now and still.... nothing of it still works...ive also reset the ECU to see if it worked but didnt.....ONE THING ive found out is that, everytime either I or a friend exits the door, after i shut off the engine, we get that static shock when the touch the body on the car...i dont know if it has to do something with it? how can i stop that?

[MarcoGTS]

bump??

[MaskedMan]

I'm sorry I haven't been able to help you out with this Marco. I really want to, but my next availible Sunday will be the Sunday Dec 8th.

[torhne]

did you guys ever figure this out? i am really interested, the guy thats working on my car said something about it maybe being an inline fuse. but the odd thing about mine is my fuse block isnt getting any power, but the car will turn over and start, headlights work fine, etc etc. but no dome lights, no turn signals, no dash lights, no cd player

[BloodyStupidDave...]

In summary, you had a blown fuse, replaced it and now your cig lighter works but your radio and clock doesn't?

Radio needs both the "radio 1" fuse and the "cig. and radio" fuse.
Cigarette lighter needs the "cig. and radio" fuse.
Clock needs the "panel", "cig. and radio" and the "dome" fuses.

Either you have multiple fuses failed, or you have something unplugged (eg. at J/B #3) or you have one or more broken/burned wires, or the fault caused a power surge that damaged both the radio and the clock. The last one seems to be very unlikely to me.

If your horn and hazards work, but your dome and radio doesn't, check the shorting pin. It looks like a regular fuse and is in the main engine bay fuse box. It is usually white in colour.


This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 7, 2007 - 1:57 PM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

im having sorta the same problem, inside lights dont work, window wont roll up, cd player wont work, nothing on the inside, but the air bag light will come on when i turn the key, and the engine will turn over

Windows need the "Door", "Gauge" and "Power" fuses as well as a correctly functioning "power main relay".

For your problem, it would be useful to have a more complete list of exactly what is still working and what isn't.

[torhne]

alright, here is the list of the non-working

blinkers
dash lights
cd player
window roll up/down on both sides
brake lights
Tachometer
Fuel Gauge
Temp Gauge

WOrking:
High Beam indicator on dash
Door Ajar indicator
dome lights work

[BloodyStupidDave...]

alright, here is the list

Few more to check:

Healights (the actual headlights, not the tell-tale)
Horn
Hazard
Tail lights
Stop (brake) lights
Heater
Rear defogger
Air conditioning
Wipers
Cigarette lighter
SRS tell-tale on dash
Charge (battery) indicator on dash

Regarding the dome lights - did you do something to get them working or did you mis-remember whether they worked or not?

(My notes:
Looks like the dome and headlight circuits are working
Looks like panel and gauge circuits are not)

This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 7, 2007 - 8:39 PM

[punkuup5150]

so yeah its been several days now and still.... nothing of it still works...ive also reset the ECU to see if it worked but didnt.....ONE THING ive found out is that, everytime either I or a friend exits the door, after i shut off the engine, we get that static shock when the touch the body on the car...i dont know if it has to do something with it? how can i stop that?

dude i get this also its kinda funny stings a bit. lol but i woudl check all of your power and grounds use a volt meter not a test light so u dont hurt your computer and if u trace the wireing u should be able to find the problem. our cars rnt that bad in the wireing department so u shoudl be able to find the problem it could be that u have a loose connection a coroded wire from water or battery acid or a secondary blown fuse i knwo i have 3 fuses for my cd player in my car i have 2 inline and the factory fuse so just trace the power and ground with a volt meter and u shoudl find the problem

[MarcoGTS]

haha wow thanks guys for all the info, ill try and look into it tommorow, but the weird part is that all my fuses are all good, i dont know if there are any "hidden" fuses that i dont know about?

the things that dont work are:
side door courtesy lights
dome light
Radio CD player
the light in the trunk

and the weird thing about these is that all the fuses for these are good, and i even installed new fuses just in case, and it still doesnt work! >_<

oh yeah, forgot to mention, im not an electrical guy so i dont want to mess with the wiring haha all i know is the basic stuff...dont wanna mess it up more ya know?

[torhne]

yeah marco, sorry to jack your thread but we are having just about the same problem. the guy thats working on it said that toyota dealer might have to fix it, said something about an inline fuse thats basically hidden. but yeah... i am still not getting any power to my fuse panel, but the dome lights work, so im really not sure what the crap

This post has been edited by torhne: Dec 8, 2007 - 12:15 PM

[MarcoGTS]

hahah wow, its okay torhne at least im not the only one having this problem,...the only thing is i dont feel like bringing my Celi to a Toyota dealer and spend a crapload of money on something very minor...i got one of the 6gc guys to hopefully to comeover and help out to fix the problem.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Marco, can you tell me if your horn and hazards work? Have you located the shorting pin? It looks like a regular fuse and is in the main engine bay fuse box. It is usually white in colour.

Torhne, if you can check those items I listed and let me know which are working and which aren't I may be able to help you further also.


This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 9, 2007 - 5:20 AM

[MarcoGTS]

BloodyStupidDavey my horn and hazards work perfectly. shorting pin? is it located in the main fuse box? ill try and look into it today. Thanks

[BloodyStupidDave...]

BloodyStupidDavey my horn and hazards work perfectly.

Shorting pin is the most likely culprit then.

is it located in the main fuse box? ill try and look into it today. Thanks

Yes, the main fuse box. The one near the battery. On the diagram on the fuse box lid, it is represented as rectangle with a diagonal line through it. You may even find that the shorting pin is missing.

[MarcoGTS]

what happends if it is missing, can you buy it anywhere like an auto zone/pepboys/kragen??

through it. You may even find that the shorting pin is missing

[MarcoGTS]

OH MAN!!! BloodyStupidDavey! UR RIGHT!!! HAHA THE PIN IS MISSING!!! ahhh!! lol i found the pin inserted in the "reserve" spot!! hahah thanks sooo much!!! dang thank god for the 6gc family! wow......dude ur awesome! hahaha oh one last question, whats up with the whole electric static thing you get when you get out of your car??

[BloodyStupidDave...]

one last question, whats up with the whole electric static thing you get when you get out of your car??

Change your shoes or change your location

[torhne]

can someone up a picture of this jumper that you are talking about? i cant seem to find it on my car

[BloodyStupidDave...]

can someone up a picture of this jumper that you are talking about? i cant seem to find it on my car

It looks just like a fuse. Look at the diagram on the inside of the fusebox lid. The shorting pin has a different symbol to the fuses. However, I am pretty sure that you have a different problem to MarcoGTS. If you let me know which additional circuits (above) work/don't work I may be able to narrow the problem down further.

[torhne]

thats all i can find that doesnt work, have been over testing it a lot and still nothing new besides what i posted earlier. this is so freaking strange. ughhhhh always happens to me

[MarcoGTS]

hey BloodyStupidDavey! haha i also noticed you took out your srs airbag warning fuse! haha got a aftermarket steering wheel on?? im planning to put mines on soon but ive already took out the srs fuse because of a previous steering wheel swap, i had to put back the stock because i didnt have a spacer and i kept on hitting the turn signals everytime i turn...but now i got a quick release and it gives a lot of space now....now another problem....i dont know how to re-wire the horn button, its sorta confusing, all i know is not to mess with the yellow wire because that goes to the airbags....which wire goes to the horn? and how do you install it with the aftermarket horn button? THANKS!!

This post has been edited by MarcoGTS: Dec 9, 2007 - 11:09 PM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

i dont know how to re-wire the horn button, its sorta confusing, all i know is not to mess with the yellow wire because that goes to the airbags....which wire goes to the horn? and how do you install it with the aftermarket horn button? THANKS!!

Sorry, I can't help with that. The pic isn't of my car, I borrowed it from the website it says on the image To sound the horn, you want to short the green wire on the A plug (pin 5) to ground through the horn switch.

I did have an SRS warning light at one point but that was a loose plug in the drivers' kick panel.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

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This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 10, 2007 - 2:18 AM

[torhne]

well my problem started when i was trying to install my cd player, i think one of the DO NOT USE wires from the installdr website pdf might have touched bare metal or a 12v current, thats the only thing i can think of

[trdproven]

Just a thought, make sure under your hood, fuse box, in the center there is a fuse thats labeled as X make sure this fuse is good. I removed this before because I thought it was a spare, and the things your mentioned did not work.

[torhne]

ugh no luck on it. i mean i could drive the car without cd player or ac or heat, but its december and my window HAS to be up to drive. its like 10 degrees out right now. i just checked the fuse box beside the battery and the jumper is fine, so i dont know what to do. if anyone has any other ideas.

trdproven. where about is that X in relation to teh jumper fuse in the picture above? or is it that fuse?

[torhne]

bumpage!

[torhne]

ok just got done working on it. and i was using a multimeter to test the wires that plug into the bottom of the fuse block, there are 2 that are getting power, a black one with a red stripe and a black with pink stripe. and in the other group of cables that plug into the bottom of the fuse block, one of the pure white cables are getting power, but none of the other 5-6 are. i also pulled out all the BIG fuses in the block, and none of them are getting power to either side of the contact, and the 2 black fuses are in the same boat, no power to either side. and as an reminder, none of the small fuses are working either, no power to either side. someone pleassssseeeee help me

[stephen_lee]

i THINK all the white wires should be getting +12v, but im not sure.
if so something could be disconnected/broken at somepoint between there and the battery

[trdproven]

ugh no luck on it. i mean i could drive the car without cd player or ac or heat, but its december and my window HAS to be up to drive. its like 10 degrees out right now. i just checked the fuse box beside the battery and the jumper is fine, so i dont know what to do. if anyone has any other ideas.

trdproven. where about is that X in relation to teh jumper fuse in the picture above? or is it that fuse?

If you look at the diagram on the fuse panel cover, it tells you where the X is. Its somewhere in the center of all the small fuses.

[torhne]

i got it fixed! it was the 100 amp fuse underneath the hood. but now im having a problem with headlights causing the cd player to shut off i made another thread about it. but yeah, anyone that looks att his thead that would have an idea, the help would be appreciated

[BloodyStupidDave...]

i got it fixed! it was the 100 amp fuse underneath the hood. but now im having a problem with headlights causing the cd player to shut off i made another thread about it. but yeah, anyone that looks att his thead that would have an idea, the help would be appreciated

Have you up-rated your headlights or are they standard wattage? Have you tried putting a voltmeter over the battery when the car is not running, when it is running, and when all your lights are on?

My guess is that your battery is nearing the end of its life. The Celica (all modern cars actually) are pretty demanding on batteries. They tend to last around 3 years on average. If you have accessories such as neon or el-glow lighting; powerful car audio; or up-rated headlights, that can make the problem worse. I tend to notice that my battery is coming to the end of its life when I flash my high-beams and my mp3 player reboots.