Gt-four front end conversion, what has to be done, and the Price? Options

[amdcyrus]

Just wondering what has to be done and the price for this conversion. I've read the sticky on jdm gt-four hood and bumper but do you have to actually buy all the accessories as well? If so is there a cheaper alternative. Im looking to spend like $1200 for this.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Just wondering what has to be done and the price for this conversion. I've read the sticky on jdm gt-four hood and bumper but do you have to actually buy all the accessories as well? If so is there a cheaper alternative. Im looking to spend like $1200 for this.

Please use the search engine. Sorry If I sound blunt, but this is one of the most frequently asked question on the forums and the quality of information in previous replies is very high - full part numbers, pictures, diagrams, suggested suppliers and guideline prices are all there.

[amdcyrus]

I know your right and i should search the forums i learned a bit. I just wanna make sure of one thing. Does the st202 hood fit on a 99gt hatchback, with a c-5 american bumper without a gap.

[D_Dawg]

nvm i think it will fit fine, i read your question wrong. but im not really sure what the c-5 bumper is

This post has been edited by D_Dawg: Jan 3, 2008 - 12:26 PM

[amdcyrus]

c-5 is the bumper tufy uses. But it's designed to fit the st202 so i read so im thinking it should all match up pretty well but hey i could be wrong?

[D_Dawg]

c-5 is the bumper tufy uses. But it's designed to fit the st202 so i read so im thinking it should all match up pretty well but hey i could be wrong?

yea, then it should all match up and fit well.

[amdcyrus]

aight thanks for your help i much appreciate it

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Does the st202 hood fit on a 99gt hatchback, with a c-5 american bumper without a gap.

As far as I know, the Extreme Dimensions C-5 bumper and hood are a clone of the C-One bumper and hood. I was under the impression that Extreme Dimensions only made the GT-Four style version of the C-One bumper.

Now, you can mix and match between the GT-Four bumper/hood and the C-One GT-Four style bumper and hood. So I would expect that the GT-Four hood would fit on a 6gc with the C-5 bumper.

However, you referred to the ST202. The ST202 is the model code for the 6gc GT and ST. ST205 is the model code for the 6gc GT-Four.

If you meant ST205, that is fine. However, if you really did mean ST202 then mixing and matching between the GT/ST (ST202) bumper/hood and the GT-Four (ST205) bumper/hood will leave a gap. With a GT-Four hood and a GT/ST bumper, you get a narrow gap that looks a bit like an air scoop. Some people like the look, others think it looks like a kludge:



With an ST/GT hood and a GT-Four/C-5 bumper, you'll have a ridge in the bumper that won't line up with the hood.

In summary, I would expect the GT-Four hood to fit on a 6gc hatchback, with a c-5 american bumper without a gap. You will need to dig out the GT-Four bumper thread to learn about other parts you'll need. You'll need the GT-Four rubber bumper seal and metal retainer bar at the very minimum (plus some long bolts and some washers). As you said yourself, this is similar to Tufy's setup (he has a GT-Four and the C-One bumper).

This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Jan 3, 2008 - 1:28 PM

[amdcyrus]

Im talking about mixing the st202 hood with the c-5 american bumper

[lubu]

Im talking about mixing the st202 hood with the c-5 american bumper

Tufy has C-1 bumper which he ordered from japan....im pretty sure that there isnt a knock off C-1 (or c-5)bumper for the 205 chasis.

With all that said the ST202 hood will fit fine with the C-1 bumper providing the C-1 isnt for st205. But if the C-1 is made for the ST205 then u'll deff have a gap.

[CelicaST_CALI]

The c-5 bumper is made to fit the gt-4..

[bccentaur3]

isn't the c-5 bumper a knock off of the c one? If so its not made to fit flush with the gtfour hood.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

isn't the c-5 bumper a knock off of the c one? If so its not made to fit flush with the gtfour hood.

The confusing thing is that C-One have two different versions of their bumper, to suit both the st202 and the st205, but the C-5 bumper only appears to be available for one style of hood. From the crappy photos I've seen, it is hard to tell which one.

[bccentaur3]

well of course c-one offers the bumper for both st202 models and st205. for example check out extremedimensions website. they offer the c-5 bumper, but you can definatley tell that its made for the st202 model. Any way what knock off company actually make kits for st205 here in the us?

[CelicaST_CALI]

wickedbodies.com has a c-5,its picture is tufys car..

[bccentaur3]

Well the only way to know for sure is if someone orders that kit from them. I wouldn't do it, because they are probably just doping someone into thinking that thats what their car will look like when ordering the kit.

[Batman722]

Just wondering what has to be done and the price for this conversion. I've read the sticky on jdm gt-four hood and bumper but do you have to actually buy all the accessories as well? If so is there a cheaper alternative. Im looking to spend like $1200 for this.

back to the original question...

what accessories are you talking about ?

[lagos]

hes talking about all the grills, vents and misc things that are in the parts list.
yes, you do need all of them.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

wickedbodies.com has a c-5,its picture is tufys car..

Which is a bit cheeky as I'm pretty sure that Tufy has a C-One, not a knock-off.

[amdcyrus]

hes talking about all the grills, vents and misc things that are in the parts list.
yes, you do need all of them.

Bumper Parts Cover, front bumper 52119-2b905 $223.27 This is the bumper (Thanks to jgreening for the correction) Absorber, front bumper energy 52611-20150 $62.76 This is the foam that goes behind the bumper Seal, hood to front end panel 53395-20020 $19.92 This is the rubber seal where the hood and bumper meet
retainer, front bumper upper center 52521-20200 $25.44 this is the metal thing that holds the rubber in place Grill, sub-assy, rad., center 53101-20500 $46.29 This is the upper grille Grill, radiator, lower 53111-20750 $125.08 This is the lower grille Bezel, grille, lower RH 53112-20240 This is the right-hand bezel for the lower grill without fogs Bezel, grille lower LH 53113-20180 This is the left-hand bezel for lower grill without fogs Front turn signal, RH 81510-20750 Front turn signal, LH 81520-20750


Hood Parts Hood sub-assy. 53301-20500 $444.22 This is the hood Plate assembly, hood bulge 76190-20010 $ 42.95 This is the middle hood vent Bulge assembly, hood 76180-20010-XX This is the hood bulge. The -XX after the part number is a paint code, if you know your Toyota paint code, insert it there. Below are the part numbers, with color codes.
76180-20010-F0 576, Super Bright Yellow
76180-20010-H0 752, Deep Teal Metalic
76180-20010-H1 753, Graish Turquoise M.M.
76180-20010-B0 183, Dk. Bl. Gray Me
76180-20010-G0 6M1, Dk Green Mica
76180-20010-G1 6R0, Lt Green Me.
76180-20010-A0 040, Super White 2
76180-20010-B0 199, Silver Me.
76180-20010-C0 202, Black
76180-20010-D0 3L2, Super Red
76180-20010-J0 8L5, Blue M.M. (perfect Blue) Ornament sub assy, hood RH 75033-20030-XX This is the right-hand rear vent. The -XX after the part number is a paint code, if you know your Toyota paint code, insert it there. Below are the part numbers, with color codes.
75033-20030-F0 576, Super Bright Yellow
75033-20030-H0 752, Deep Teal Metalic
75033-20030-H1 753, Graish Turquoise M.M.
75033-20030-B0 183, Dk. Bl. Gray Me
75033-20030-G0 6M1, Dk Green Mica
75033-20030-G1 6R0, Lt Green Me.
75033-20030-A0 040, Super White 2
75033-20030-B0 199, Silver Me.
75033-20030-C0 202, Black
75033-20030-D0 3L2, Super Red
75033-20030-J0 8L5, Blue M.M. (perfect Blue) Ornament sub-assy, hood LH 75034-20030-XX This is the left-hand rear vent. The -XX after the part number is a paint code, if you know your Toyota paint code, insert it there. Below are the part numbers, with color codes.
75034-20030-F0 576, Super Bright Yellow
75034-20030-H0 752, Deep Teal Metalic
75034-20030-H1 753, Graish Turquoise M.M.
75034-20030-B0 183, Dk. Bl. Gray Me
75034-20030-G0 6M1, Dk Green Mica
75034-20030-G1 6R0, Lt Green Me.
75034-20030-A0 040, Super White 2
75034-20030-B0 199, Silver Me.
75034-20030-C0 202, Black
75034-20030-D0 3L2, Super Red
75034-20030-J0 8L5, Blue M.M. (perfect Blue) Guide,air to cowl 76191-20901 This if the optional hood spoiler



Those kinds of acccessories, and yea extremedimensions i believe makes the c-5 for the US model st202,st204.

[tufy]

wickedbodies.com has a c-5,its picture is tufys car..

Which is a bit cheeky as I'm pretty sure that Tufy has a C-One, not a knock-off.

i buyed my bumper from japan. its orginal c one. but c one also makes bumper for st202 that will have no gab.
c-5 is copy of c-one
wicked bodies and a few more sites like extremedimentions stole my cars photo and use it as i am their costumers.

[bccentaur3]

Suit them dude. They didn't get your permission to advertise your car as their product. And they aren't even made for the st205 they are made for 202's and 204's. Get money out of them man and give me half because I gave you the idea. Serious.

[lubu]

Suit them dude.

Suit or Sue??

[amdcyrus]

I think id just gonna go ahead and get the gt-four conversion parts then from toyota world.. i'd rather have quality.

[bccentaur3]

My bad Lubu. Didn't really do that well in spelling. I guess asians are only good in math, lol... Toyota World FTW.

[tufy]

Suit them dude. They didn't get your permission to advertise your car as their product. And they aren't even made for the st205 they are made for 202's and 204's. Get money out of them man and give me half because I gave you the idea. Serious.

i have the idea but,
they stoled the model from c-one. c-one must sue them first.. then me

This post has been edited by tufy: Jan 8, 2008 - 6:33 AM

[bccentaur3]

Tufy, you mean Will right? Lubu just corrected my spelling.. lol.

[SteveHall]

I'm looking to do my GT4 styling conversion soon. I've been looking into the front crashbar issue which I didn't reaslise until after buying the bumper. There seems to be three approaches:
1) Cut the standard ST / GT square crash bar. To me this has Bad idea written all over it so this is out.
2) As per Azian advanced, use a GT4 crash bar and cut the ends to mount to the ST / GT bracket. Seems better but I'm still not convinced about this one
3) I haven't seen a write up on this one, but just heard mention. Get a GT4 crash bar and the right (GT4?) frame brackets:
Frame Bracket RH 57201-20060
Frame Bracket LH 57202-20070
This is the option that I'm interested in doing, but can't find enough information.
Could someone clarify that if I get at GT4 crash bar and the two frame brackets everything will just bolt together and fit propperly on my ST. i.e. Will the GT4 frame brackets fit onto the ST frame bracket mounts. (Accepting that I will have to extend safety latch and support raised rubber seal)

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this.

This post has been edited by SteveHall: Jan 8, 2008 - 8:20 AM

[presure2]

I'm looking to do my GT4 styling conversion soon. I've been looking into the front crashbar issue which I didn't reaslise until after buying the bumper. There seems to be three approaches:
1) Cut the standard ST / GT square crash bar. To me this has Bad idea written all over it so this is out.
2) As per Azian advanced, use a GT4 crash bar and cut the ends to mount to the ST / GT bracket. Seems better but I'm still not convinced about this one
3) I haven't seen a write up on this one, but just heard mention. Get a GT4 crash bar and the right (GT4?) frame brackets:
Frame Bracket RH 57201-20060
Frame Bracket LH 57202-20070
This is the option that I'm interested in doing, but can't find enough information.
Could someone clarify that if I get at GT4 crash bar and the two frame brackets everything will just bolt together and fit propperly on my ST. i.e. Will the GT4 frame brackets fit onto the ST frame bracket mounts. (Accepting that I will have to extend safety latch and support raised rubber seal)

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this.

yes, that is the correct way to do it.
it will fit like it came from the factory that way.

[SteveHall]

Cheers, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I was considering selling on the bumper as the idea of loosing so much strengh in the crash bar by cutting seemed like such a bad idea.

[trdproven]

What is truly needed for a GT-Four Front conversion? I know there are some clips and things you don't really need. Also what is the difference from cutting the st202 crash bar if you are still going to cut the gt-four crash bar, all in all, cutting is still needed. What is the cheapest way to convert?

[Daftboy]

I did mine with a actual gt4 parts hood, hood scoops, cowel, gt4 hood latch, gt4 crash bar,gt4 reinforment brackets. gt4 fogs and mounts, gt4 foam thing behind the bumper....etc... i think in all it cost me about 1500 before paint.

[azian_advanced]

I saw this thread and made me write a how-to: How-To Convert to a GT-FOUR Front End

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Nov 15, 2008 - 10:36 PM