Lets talk body kits~ Options

[D-Man]

okay, i know this is covered in the sticky; "The more you spend the better"

However; out of a few brands, i am trying to figure out witch i am going to purchase. I'm looking for the Blitz front with the invader sides and rear. Now, i WILL NOT buy theese off of ebay. Yeah i could get em for 100 bucks, but will it be anything decent? NO~

Body-Kitz.com offers a nice selection, but due to the fact they wont even give you the name of the manufacturer, I dont really want to trust them to deliver a quality product. Plus One member of this fourm (I forget the name) had a really bad experience with Body-kitz.com.

So I've been looking at Andy's wares, and it would seem there are a few good buys. I dont want to spend $1000 for this... So my question is if anyone has any experience with the following manufacturers:

AIT Racing - VS
Duraflex - Extreme Dementions
VFiber - Vision

Or look for yourselfs here:

http://www.andysautosport.com/toyota/1994_...rior/body_kits/

So if anyone has an opinion on theese 3 brands, i would love to hear all feed back possible.

[96bluevert]

Be carefull about buying a full body kit b/c it might be intended for hatchbacks only and the rear bumper/lip you get might not fit on a convertible/coupe.

[D-Man]

Be carefull about buying a full body kit b/c it might be intended for hatchbacks only and the rear bumper/lip you get might not fit on a convertible/coupe.

This would be a great opportunity to bring up another point regarding Body parts and Trim Models. Because BlueVert is right, Our convertable take slightly different body parts than the coupe/hatchback models. Even our fenders are different. Obviously the roof and turnks are different too, but this is a good point.

I have only seen my convertable. Well, i've seen pics of fourm members, and seen some at the Houston Meet; But i havent really had my hands on any other model but my convertible.

I wonder who would know the differences between the trim models and body kit pieces. How would you know what model it was intended for, And why am i not seeing any said information on this at the kits info page? It just says 94-99 Celica.

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 18, 2008 - 12:33 PM

[jason]

besdies the roof obviously... i believe the coupes and verts share all the same pieces - 1/4 panels, fenders, bumpers, trunk lids etc.

so anything bodykit related that fits a coupe, should also fit a vert. you can get a hatch rear lip, but your going to need to do some custom fab to get it to fit. i think its like a total of 4 inches or so that coupe people add in the middle to extend the length. i could be wrong, so double check

[808celica]

okay let's talk.............

most people usually think "celica" as mainly hatchback.......like the gen.7's only came hatchiez.

i get people telling my friend(s) "did they really came coupe?" for both 6gc and my gen.5 friends.

so generally since ALMOST every kit company is like most of the community "they just assume" that if you have a celica (listed 94-99) then it must be a hatch version without any other description listed.

some companies DO know what they're talking about and have diff. versions for coupes/verts and hatchez.

but you all should know that they're only out there to make $$$$.

if you're going to get a kit "be very careful" and actually call them and ask a crap load of Q's and see if they can answer them.

just like when you ask a Ricer, " does your civic come with rotary engine off the factory?" kinda reminds me of that youtube vid with the guy and the mustang "GTR" and agress when the guy taping asks, "did your stang come with the rotary??"

well back to topics...........

if you DO get a kit make some friends that know how to do custom fab. work. and prolly have exp. painting also.

that or you can just go in the "lip kit" direction.........as some of the guys know here.

oh what else do you have on your car???

if you're going kit then atleast have some rims and a small drop cuz it'll look funny if you have the stock 15's with a huge front and a big wheel to tire gap.

just my $0.02

[D-Man]

Well i'm glad for the 2¢ - I love a good fourm thread more than anything else!

So, your telling me that the coupe and the vert have similar bumpers and skirts? I suppose that would make things a bit better.

Yes there is a wide assumption that ALL of us have hatchs. And that does infact make a great point to watch for.

Does anyone know what the fenders look like on the hatches/coups, near the bottom where the Front bumper meets the Fender? Does part of the bumper cover the fender? Pics would be fantasterific.

I do know plenty about fiberglass fabrication. My cousin ran a little Club Shop for years, If anyone has herd of Vertically Challenged. It's where i found my passion for autos!

As for paint, i am in need of a WHOLE car paint job so~

If you'd like to see my project thread, It's located here:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=55992&hl=

So as you can see, I've much work to do!! lol. I understand that any fiberglass body kit is going to require a bit of work to set properly, That's a given. However, some knock-off brands are known for having something that has been design stolen and re-molded so many times that it's no longer a product for our cars... Some kind of muntant-Radioactive-celica body kit LoL-

But it's true, This is why i was asking about those 3 specific name brands, Or any others that come to mind. I'm looking for somthing that will sit right; Without being deformed or something crazy like that.

[96bluevert]

So, your telling me that the coupe and the vert have similar bumpers and skirts? I suppose that would make things a bit better.

front bumpers= universal for 6th gens
sides= universal for 6gc
back bumper is the only thing you have to be carefull about.
-There are bumpers specifically for hatches (which the majority of people have, so that's what most manufacturers make)
-Then bumpers that will fit coups and convertible, but not hatch (more rare to find though)

If I were you, I'd look into splitters for the back. It is possible to get a hatch rear bumper or lip to fit a coupe/convertible, but it takes a fair deal of customizing to make them work (same thing with spoilers, different for coupe/convertivble vs. hatch)

[D-Man]

front bumpers= universal for 6th gens
sides= universal for 6gc
back bumper is the only thing you have to be carefull about.
-There are bumpers specifically for hatches (which the majority of people have, so that's what most manufacturers make)
-Then bumpers that will fit coups and convertible, but not hatch (more rare to find though)

If I were you, I'd look into splitters for the back. It is possible to get a hatch rear bumper or lip to fit a coupe/convertible, but it takes a fair deal of customizing to make them work (same thing with spoilers, different for coupe/convertivble vs. hatch)

Great info! Thanks for that.

Humm... I've never herd of this splitter. Is it some kind of adaptor/harness to interchange rear bumpers?

[SeverX13]

Get splitters of off a curren like i did

[96bluevert]

Great info! Thanks for that.

Humm... I've never herd of this splitter. Is it some kind of adaptor/harness to interchange rear bumpers?

splitters are extensions for your bumpers.

http://www.6gc.net/photo/member/4437/12

I know his car is a hatch, but it gives you a good idea of what they'd look like. I'm pretty sure the SS-III rear splitters (like shown above) will fit coupes/verts, but I'd have to check on that. Theres about 3 different types of splitters for our cars, so you could look around the site and see which you like best.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

For the Blitz, i would just get the ebay kit because wherever u get em, its a nightmare to install from what i hear. Lots of bodywork involved where the side meets the fender. either ur gonna have to cut some of the fender or do somethin else with it. Its probably just as bad as the Combat kit. Besides i think its the ugliest kit for the Celica yet.

[808celica]

hmm the rears i really dont know.......i love the 404 rears on the coupe....

but yeah..........go check this guy out you'll love his set up

BlinkyxMunkey

This post has been edited by 808celica: Feb 18, 2008 - 11:23 PM

[DEATH]

D-man - you say you have fiberglassing skills - well I have a VIS CF hood that has a crack in it [not gonna lie - that crack is huge - but repairable]. It's the one that looks vaguely like the GT4 hood but with better looking rear vents and a bigger center vent and it's already painted black and most of the repair work can be done from the bottom side.
You may want to check it out [there is a pic in my profile] - I'll let it go really cheap to you [or trade for parts I need ]

This post has been edited by DEATH: Feb 19, 2008 - 7:19 AM

[D-Man]

D-man - you say you have fiberglassing skills - well I have a VIS CF hood that has a crack in it [not gonna lie - that crack is huge - but repairable]. It's the one that looks vaguely like the GT4 hood but with better looking rear vents and a bigger center vent and it's already painted black and most of the repair work can be done from the bottom side.
You may want to check it out [there is a pic in my profile] - I'll let it go really cheap to you [or trade for parts I need ]

Hah-Hah!!

Oh death, Always trying to make a deal... You're so cool~

I'll check it out soon enough

[D-Man]

For the Blitz, i would just get the ebay kit because wherever u get em, its a nightmare to install from what i hear. Lots of bodywork involved where the side meets the fender. either ur gonna have to cut some of the fender or do somethin else with it. Its probably just as bad as the Combat kit. Besides i think its the ugliest kit for the Celica yet.

i wonder if anyone on this fourm has installed one? It looks like it'd go over the fender, to give it that extra bulked up look, (And that's obviously the point of a blitz kit; looking bulky.) and i'm guessing that it secures where the fender meets with the splash guards, and if it dont, Then that'd be a good place for me to fabricate in a secure tab; assuming that said peice will cover the fender without bending outward on the upper section of that peice... (Side vent area)

Has anyone here ever installed a blitz kit? I also believe that the invader kit does the same, but not sure... i'll edit this out if it dosent.

[D-Man]

Okay, so, i was surfin members rides, and it looks like the bumper goes right over the fender. I've PMed some members about it, but had no replys...

I guess i'm one of the few that spend ALL day on here...

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Okay, so, i was surfin members rides, and it looks like the bumper goes right over the fender. I've PMed some members about it, but had no replys...

I guess i'm one of the few that spend ALL day on here...

they had to alter their fender...it doesnt fit over.

[CelicaST_CALI]

talk to a 6gc member in cali,his myspace name is Carbon,very low prices and quality stuff...he has an account on here but i forgot wat his name is..

[D-Man]

Okay, so, i was surfin members rides, and it looks like the bumper goes right over the fender. I've PMed some members about it, but had no replys...

I guess i'm one of the few that spend ALL day on here...

they had to alter their fender...it doesnt fit over.

Hummm.... I just talked to shadowFX located here:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=Ms...amp;MSID=197599
http://www.6gc.net/members/2178

And he's saying that it wraped arround the fender and bolted in with the splash guards. And that no modification to the fender was required.

I wonder if it is a difference in the trim models? Sh0gunkid, Where are you getting your information? I'm not being a Smart A- I'm really doing a conversion, and would like to know.

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 20, 2008 - 9:30 AM

[foutong]

so if the front bumper is universal and sides are too then does that mean that the fenders are aswell? just asking because i might pick up a fender soon

[Rymaster]

ok, i wana buy a invader front bumper

this is currently the place i am looking to but it from

http://www.octanemotorsports.com/product_i...roducts_id=7222

it will cost $315 shipped to maryland, 21009


does anyone know of a place i could possible get it cheaper?

-thanks

[nik]

just letting a few people know on here i have some Vis Racing parts for sale

invader front bumper
z3 fenders
supra sides kirts

[joehernandez]

just letting a few people know on here i have some Vis Racing parts for sale

invader front bumper
z3 fenders
supra sides kirts

you can put those on the selling section,,
they will sell faster overthere

[D-Man]

so if the front bumper is universal and sides are too then does that mean that the fenders are aswell? just asking because i might pick up a fender soon

No. The fenders are not universal.

The convertable takes a different fender than the coupe / hatchback models. All Z3 fenders and ect. are made for the coupe / hatchback. (and if you find otherwise, then its very rare. I've never seen any.)

just letting a few people know on here i have some Vis Racing parts for sale

invader front bumper
z3 fenders
supra sides kirts

Thank you nik. But hernandez is right, if you want to sell something, the FS is the place to be. However; PM Sent.



This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 29, 2008 - 10:47 AM

[DEATH]

so if the front bumper is universal and sides are too then does that mean that the fenders are aswell? just asking because i might pick up a fender soon

No. The fenders are not universal.

The convertable takes a different fender than the coupe / hatchback models. All Z3 fenders and ect. are made for the coupe / hatchback. (and if you find otherwise, then its very rare. I've never seen any.)

From everything I've read this statement is untrue. The rear on the verts/coupes is diff than the hatch but the front is the same including the fenders [1/4 panels].
This from reading and observation - I could be wrong and if I am will someone please point out the differences with pics?

[D-Man]

ok, i wana buy a invader front bumper

this is currently the place i am looking to but it from

http://www.octanemotorsports.com/product_i...roducts_id=7222

it will cost $315 shipped to maryland, 21009


does anyone know of a place i could possible get it cheaper?

-thanks

Yes it is. Andysautosport sells entire kits for about $35 more than your paying for just the bumper.

However that's what this discusion is all about. Remember that this kit wont just "bolt on" And the cheaper the kit, the more fabrication you will have to do to fit it on. But would it be worth it? I think yes.

Or for closer to 1000 dollars you could get one that may require no fiberglass work at all. It depends on how much you spend. This and the reasons behind it is all covered in the sticky.

so if the front bumper is universal and sides are too then does that mean that the fenders are aswell? just asking because i might pick up a fender soon

No. The fenders are not universal.

The convertable takes a different fender than the coupe / hatchback models. All Z3 fenders and ect. are made for the coupe / hatchback. (and if you find otherwise, then its very rare. I've never seen any.)

From everything I've read this statement is untrue. The rear on the verts/coupes is diff than the hatch but the front is the same including the fenders [1/4 panels].
This from reading and observation - I could be wrong and if I am will someone please point out the differences with pics?

death, this is why it took me 3 months to find a fender for my car. (you've seen the white one) because the vert dosent go as high. We can compare later and take pics of yours and mine.

but if your right, Man, i'm gunna be pissed for spending all the extra money~

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 29, 2008 - 11:08 AM

[DEATH]

We'll check it out Sat. You still coming over Sat morning? I have an oil change customer coming - won't take long. But I can work till about 10:30am so if you can get there fairly early we can get that dust cover back in shape.

[D-Man]

We'll check it out Sat. You still coming over Sat morning? I have an oil change customer coming - won't take long. But I can work till about 10:30am so if you can get there fairly early we can get that dust cover back in shape.

Dust cover?

Yeah, i gotta do some food shopping this sat. myself; but seeing as you have a GOOD digital camera, we'll use yours to photo the fenders and eliminate all doubt or questions for the sake of thread. I'll pm you about it timing.

Also, i'm not sure if the side skirts are the same or not. I've heard that they are, I've heard that the converts are less C shaped on the bottom than the hatches. I know you can mold anything to fit anywhere, it just takes a bit of know-how, and a crapload of fiberglass but it's true~

[DEATH]

the stock vert side skirts like yours are straight [at least the ones I've seen like your for example]. The stock hatch sideskirts are that "c" shape your talking about. Whether or not they are interchangeable IDK. They are certainly the same length but I don't know if the mounting holes are in the same place or not.

Dust cover = the Brake part you bent behind the rotor that you said you need to fix remember? Are you drinking at work again?

This post has been edited by DEATH: Feb 29, 2008 - 11:56 AM

[D-Man]

the stock vert side skirts like yours are straight [at least the ones I've seen like your for example]. The stock hatch sideskirts are that "c" shape your talking about. Whether or not they are interchangeable IDK. They are certainly the same length but I don't know if the mounting holes are in the same place or not.

Dust cover = the Brake part you bent behind the rotor that you said you need to fix remember? Are you drinking at work again?

ONLY ON MY BREAKS!! (so what if i take a lot... JK)

oh yeah, I think i got it mostly fixed up.... i poked at it, and it's not scraping anymore, but i havnt try any dime turns sense i whacked it.

as for the mounting holes, There spaced identical i think. I remember i did mine, then the next day i was at your house, helping do yours; And they looked the same to me. (mounting) i think there is some shape differential, that dont line up. I dunno, let's f- with it and find out on sat.

[DEATH]

right on looser buys the first pitcher at Hooter's.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Feb 29, 2008 - 12:29 PM

[D-Man]

right on looser buys the first pitcher at Hooter's.

Your on~

[nik]

just letting a few people know on here i have some Vis Racing parts for sale

invader front bumper
z3 fenders
supra sides kirts

you can put those on the selling section,,
they will sell faster overthere

so you can delete my posts it was off topic also i know you guys are new and everything but it is on the FS forum thats where it started just to let you know but i should have just pm people ...so my bad

[D-Man]

so you can delete my posts it was off topic also i know you guys are new and everything but it is on the FS forum thats where it started just to let you know but i should have just pm people ...so my bad

no; it's cool. I dont care.

And if anyone is off topic on my lil thread it's me and death making bets on who is right. lol. Forgive us, us Houston members have a meet this sat, and it gets pretty competitive when we've spent as much money as we have. lol. well, competitive with a smile (and a pitcher, WOOT!!)

But on topic, Yeah, I'm trying to get my hands on a broken body kit, (for 30 bucks) to repair and resell. And to see how it indeed attaches. it's an invader kit off a wrecked car. the kit itself is in one solid peice (mostly), and i do fiberglass work, so that's goiong to be fine, but it'd be a learning opertunity for me and theese new (new to me) celicas and how their aftermarket counterparts do.

It's just getting this member online. She's being a pain in my hassle. (that person with your crash bar, death)

But importantly, i want to know the level of mod required, so that i can get my blitz kit. That was the theme of this whole thread. lol.

EDIT:(like i ever stay on topic )

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 29, 2008 - 2:55 PM

[DEATH]

just letting a few people know on here i have some Vis Racing parts for sale

invader front bumper
z3 fenders
supra sides kirts

you can put those on the selling section,,
they will sell faster overthere

so you can delete my posts it was off topic also i know you guys are new and everything but it is on the FS forum thats where it started just to let you know but i should have just pm people ...so my bad

i don't agree - I think it made perfect sense for you to post it here. It was short, simple and quite on topic. Why others feel they have to stick their nose in other people's conversations and throw the rules at them like that I have no idea. I get the feeling some people are attn seekers and approval seekers from the mods.
Kiss asses in other words.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Feb 29, 2008 - 2:48 PM

[bootslimo]

D-man, I installed a veilside full kit on a hatch, the biggest prob was the rear bumper.

Where the kit and the rear fender meet I had to trim some off the top of the kit because it was wavy from extra jell coat or fiber, (wasnt sure) but the top of the kit was like a half T or upside down L and screws went up into the rear fender stock holes.

I had trouble also with sucking the bumper in to meet the fenders right behind the back wheels.

The kit when bolted up it stuck out from the body, luckily some sanding fixed that.

When finished the only thing I didnt like was that there was a gap between the taillights and the bumper, It looked like the tails needed to move down.

But, overall very satisfied.

[bootslimo]

ok, i wana buy a invader front bumper

this is currently the place i am looking to but it from

http://www.octanemotorsports.com/product_i...roducts_id=7222

it will cost $315 shipped to maryland, 21009


does anyone know of a place i could possible get it cheaper?

-thanks

Rymaster try http://www.erebunicorp.com/ge/toycel94.htm They want $ 179 I dont know about shipping.

[D-Man]

Do you have a pic of this Bootslimo? From what i can imagine of your description, it sounds like a reform is in order for the top parts hanging away from the body of your car. You can do this by heating the skirt, and folding/bending it into place. Alot of pro's do it by hand, but i've seen people do it by holding it to the body and heating the kit that way. It's best if done before painting. This can be done with a heating lamp, or a hairdryer. Sounds crazy, but i've seen great work from a hair dryer. lol. You just have to make sure you dont burn it. lol.

I prefer a heating lamp, bc you have your hands free to hold and mold to the car itself. All cars start the same, but over time the panels shift just a little tiny bit. I am a firm believer that the only way to ensure a proper fit is to use the car itself as its own mold. Then by removing it, and exaggerating a key bend to ensure that it holds tight.but that's me.

You were 100% right for sanding it down where need be, that was probably resin for leeway. On some kits, during production, they use a sheet of plastic between the mold and the kit that's being molded, the first layer is always plain resin for those purposes. some kits are composed of solid resin, that's how they maintain those very flexible profiles. It is good to have a fairly flexible kit, but it is also a bad thing at the same time. They have their advantages and disadvantages. Remember Terminator 2? the T1000 had advantages, but was ultimately weaker (hand to hand) than Swartzanager's Terminator. Same idea, different medium.

I'd love to see a pic of this, because id be much more able to help you to perfect this. And i'd love to see a current pic of your car. BTW, the neons look fantasterific!

This post has been edited by D-Man: Feb 29, 2008 - 10:39 PM

[bootslimo]

Do you have a pic of this Bootslimo? From what i can imagine of your description, it sounds like a reform is in order for the top parts hanging away from the body of your car. You can do this by heating the skirt, and folding/bending it into place. Alot of pro's do it by hand, but i've seen people do it by holding it to the body and heating the kit that way. It's best if done before painting. This can be done with a heating lamp, or a hairdryer. Sounds crazy, but i've seen great work from a hair dryer. lol. You just have to make sure you dont burn it. lol.

I prefer a heating lamp, bc you have your hands free to hold and mold to the car itself. All cars start the same, but over time the panels shift just a little tiny bit. I am a firm believer that the only way to ensure a proper fit is to use the car itself as its own mold. Then by removing it, and exaggerating a key bend to ensure that it holds tight.but that's me.

You were 100% right for sanding it down where need be, that was probably resin for leeway. On some kits, during production, they use a sheet of plastic between the mold and the kit that's being molded, the first layer is always plain resin for those purposes. some kits are composed of solid resin, that's how they maintain those very flexible profiles. It is good to have a fairly flexible kit, but it is also a bad thing at the same time. They have their advantages and disadvantages. Remember Terminator 2? the T1000 had advantages, but was ultimately weaker (hand to hand) than Swartzanager's Terminator. Same idea, different medium.

I'd love to see a pic of this, because id be much more able to help you to perfect this. And i'd love to see a current pic of your car. BTW, the neons look fantasterific!

The car was sold, but i still have pics, the rear mudflaps ended up holding the body kit in, never seen a prob with cracking even after paint.

[D-Man]

Hey, i'd still like to see em. Link or img codes?

[bootslimo]

cant fig out how to put pics on.

[bootslimo]

sory for the choppy pics scanner didnt wirk so i took pics of pics on the dig cam.

[IMG]http://i247.photobuc[IMG]



This post has been edited by bootslimo: Mar 12, 2008 - 9:26 PM

[bootslimo]

[D-Man]

i gotta admit, it does look clean. Man i love that rear bumper. i wish i could have one...

Well, The pics were way to blurry to get a good idea of what you were talking about as far as the kit hanging off, i still say re-form it if it's bad enough.

Sorry to hear that you got rid of it though, you should have gave me that kit first

[D-Man]

Wait....



This imagie just proved my question from page 1. The kit DOES infact lay over the fenders, and the rear quarter panels, right on the bottom 8-12 inches? i guess...

[bootslimo]

It didnt go over, that was where the original bumper was. Im pretty sure there were two or three bolts that went upward into the rear quarter, and two or three in the rear mudflap, or if you dont have the mudflat there should be two or three holes there anyway.

[bootslimo]

hopefully this is better

[D-Man]

Barely....

This post has been edited by D-Man: Mar 14, 2008 - 7:31 PM

[lagos]

^ Your next mod should be a digital camera.

[CelicaST_CALI]

i second that

[6strngs]

Does anybody have the "V-fiber" products like mentioned in the first post? Or know anything about them? Are they more durable than regular fiberglass. cause I really hate fiberglass. on every fiberglass kit/lip I've seen, after a few months there's always chips and cracks and it looks terrible.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

u guys should e-mail nextmod.com and see if they'll start making kits for the celicas. i just recently purchased a lip kit for my IS250 and the front lip is made up of some kinda fiberglass that is extremely flexible and has alot of give to it.

http://www.nextmod.com/index.php?target=pa...p;page_id=media

check out their quality....and their customer service is top notch. just a suggestion. I dont know if this is the "V-Fiber" material that 6strings was talkin about

[tonytutino]

that v-fiber stuff is all over ebay. i watched a video and i was impressed, the dude actually stood on the bumper...

i'm curious about it too. i really wish my front end was polyurethane

[bootslimo]

I now have dig camera, and just ordered my front vader bumper. Maybe I will start a new thread on how to install. Want to have three coats of clear to avoid those common chips earlier stated.

[boosted6g]

Anyone needing vfiber stuff. let me know =)

Some of you guys have the vfiber skirts from me.

[Rymaster]

i just got my new vis invader bumper in the mail today

needs a bit of touching up, but seems very nice
can't wait to throw it on

[D-Man]

okay kids, it's time for me to interviene.

Polyurethane isnt the most flexible stuff in the world. It compresses. (it flexes into itself) like a F-ing dry sponge.

Flexible fiberglass is obtained by using a SMALL amount of hardener in your Resin/hardener ratio. or with too much Fiber and not enough Glassing Syrup.

Polyurethane is crap in my book. C.R.A.P.

fiberglass with a bad (flexable) ratio is more likely to warp over time. from 2-3 months to a year or so....

Proper ratio is the only way to go. DONT WRECK YOUR CAR INTO SCHETT, also; is the best way to go.

i've been doing this for years, i may be wrong, by my experience tells me all that i care to know.

Polyurethane is great untill you get into a wreck. Properly mixed fiberglass is great; after a wreck, you can repair it for about $10.

Flexable fiberglass is USELESS AND A WASTE OF MONEY!!

poly is fine, just too expensive for my taste, if your are rich, than do it. If you are not rich than use a medium+ grade of fiberglass. NOT FLEXABLE!!

Good luck guys. I"ve leared a few things about this V-FIBER and apparently it's crap... Sorry, cheap, but crap.

Now; Lets talk about cheap mod's to cheap fiber glass... I got em...

I'll be back with another post to describe how to do it right. With the worst of materials

[Zelstin]

I have the v-fiber zyclone front bumper and its pretty good for the price . It came with a good coat of primer, nice mesh, even screws and anchors for your license plate. The fitment was good except for little gaps around the high beams. I didn't try any of the crazy stuff they say it can do but i have ran up on a few curbs while parking and it hasn't chipped, cracked, ect. I wouldn't say its crap at all; especially if you've never even seen it in person .

[aznpnoiboi55]

and where did you get it?

[Zelstin]

and where did you get it?

From the Vision Autodynamics website. They had very good customer service .

[boosted6g]

and where did you get it?

I have bulk shipments go into hawaii every once in a while. This way you save $$$ on shipping.

I have all access to Vfiber and extreme dimensions parts and more. =)

[808celica]

^^yup yup you pmed me about that......

who do you ship it too??? kitworkz, vakamon, or some other dealer?????

[netrata]

Hey boosted6g, by chance are you able to get a hold of oem 6th gen. sideskirts or TRD replicas. Kind of want to change the 404 for some oem ones now. BTW 808joey, I wouldn't trust kitworkz for kits. I had problems with them in the past when I tried purchasing a wings west rear spoiler from them. I paid in full and didn't even receive the wing at all, even after a whole year. I had to come up to Oahu myself just to complain and get my refund. So yeah, bad service so be aware of that.