Cloth work, Discussion about changing cloth colors Options

[D-Man]

okay, lets see; I am buying new seats; Wanna See em?

http://www.k2motor.com/rs-blkredbnl-tm.html

But my problem is that i need em to be orange. Like theese:

http://www.shophyperformance.com/cgi-bin/hp/001425.html

bout $100 differance, although i would like the Bomz seats, but i gotta save that extra hundred bucks if i can. lol. Anyways, Point is, everything in my ride is being done orange and black (except for the lighting) How would i go about getting rid of the red and putting orange instead?

I have an idea of bleach painting, then dyeing, but what brand would be ideal? Is there another way to go about doing this?

[speedfeen]

Dude if your going to bleach paint and all that BS

spend the extra 100$ and get some pretty kick ass seats!

That you cant f*ck up on...not that im saying you would...but if you dye or bleach it it might not turn out right...and it will be all that money wasted...


BOMZ FTMFW!!


ps dont be stoop1d

This post has been edited by speedfeen: Mar 13, 2008 - 11:21 AM

[D-Man]

ps dont be stoop1d

LOL, i havent heard that in a minitue.

i really need to learn the proper spelling of that word... i think super sprint gave it to me earlier...

Yeah, i want to; but i'm also wondering for the back seats as well; i'm eventualy going to have to make seat covers for the back seat; or remove it all together. idk... I want to keep room for the baby incase she ever does ride in my car; but that'll be years down the road...

i have a bomz spoiler so i'd like to keep a matching brand name if i must. (maby i can get sponsored ) lol, whatever~

okay, i'll just buy the damn bomz seats. But what about the back seats?

also, witch seats?






This post has been edited by D-Man: Mar 13, 2008 - 11:31 AM

[GriffGirl]

all I have to say is you're gonna be really pissed when you get over this orange phase...

[D-Man]

na, i do every car a different color. Last one was black and silver, before was silver and red, before was black and red, then there was a blue and black... i like themes. Nothing normal, and i'm outragous enough that i dont much care.

Besides, orange is my favorite color.

[GriffGirl]

Orange combines the energy of red and the happiness of yellow. It is associated with joy, sunshine, and the tropics. Orange represents enthusiasm, fascination, happiness, creativity, determination, attraction, success, encouragement, and stimulation.

To the human eye, orange is a very hot color, so it gives the sensation of heat. Nevertheless, orange is not as aggressive as red. Orange increases oxygen supply to the brain, produces an invigorating effect, and stimulates mental activity. It is highly accepted among young people. As a citrus color, orange is associated with healthy food and stimulates appetite. Orange is the color of fall and harvest. In heraldry, orange is symbolic of strength and endurance.

Orange has very high visibility, so you can use it to catch attention and highlight the most important elements of your design. Orange is very effective for promoting food products and toys.

Dark orange can mean deceit and distrust.
Red-orange corresponds to desire, sexual passion, pleasure, domination, aggression, and thirst for action.
Gold evokes the feeling of prestige. The meaning of gold is illumination, wisdom, and wealth. Gold often symbolizes high quality.

from http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-meaning.html

[speedfeen]

Do the first more black in it than orange, the more orange ones look kind of tacky IMO

[D-Man]

Orange combines the energy of red and the happiness of yellow. It is associated with joy, sunshine, and the tropics. Orange represents enthusiasm, fascination, happiness, creativity, determination, attraction, success, encouragement, and stimulation.

To the human eye, orange is a very hot color, so it gives the sensation of heat. Nevertheless, orange is not as aggressive as red. Orange increases oxygen supply to the brain, produces an invigorating effect, and stimulates mental activity. It is highly accepted among young people. As a citrus color, orange is associated with healthy food and stimulates appetite. Orange is the color of fall and harvest. In heraldry, orange is symbolic of strength and endurance.

Orange has very high visibility, so you can use it to catch attention and highlight the most important elements of your design. Orange is very effective for promoting food products and toys.

Dark orange can mean deceit and distrust.
Red-orange corresponds to desire, sexual passion, pleasure, domination, aggression, and thirst for action.
Gold evokes the feeling of prestige. The meaning of gold is illumination, wisdom, and wealth. Gold often symbolizes high quality.

from http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-meaning.html

you said "stimulation"

Well, thank you for that.

I do like to eat, and play with my toys. My gal is from a very tropical place... I'm deffenetly stimulating. Hahah! kidding kidding.

Do the first more black in it than orange, the more orange ones look kind of tacky IMO

x2, i'm painting the exterior orange with black trim (remember it's convert) CF hood and the Spoiler will still be black(ish).

Interior is going to be Black with orange trim. Opposite. I dont want the sun to hit the inside and blind me. lol.

I like the first one better, So you agree with me Feen?

[speedfeen]

Yes I do...


I personally was going to do orange and black with my 6 but did black on black with green accents ....


cant wait you better post pics!!!!

[DEATH]

Orange combines the energy of red and the happiness of yellow. It is associated with joy, sunshine, and the tropics. Orange represents enthusiasm, fascination, happiness, creativity, determination, attraction, success, encouragement, and stimulation.

To the human eye, orange is a very hot color, so it gives the sensation of heat. Nevertheless, orange is not as aggressive as red. Orange increases oxygen supply to the brain, produces an invigorating effect, and stimulates mental activity. It is highly accepted among young people. As a citrus color, orange is associated with healthy food and stimulates appetite. Orange is the color of fall and harvest. In heraldry, orange is symbolic of strength and endurance.

Orange has very high visibility, so you can use it to catch attention and highlight the most important elements of your design. Orange is very effective for promoting food products and toys.

Dark orange can mean deceit and distrust.
Red-orange corresponds to desire, sexual passion, pleasure, domination, aggression, and thirst for action.
Gold evokes the feeling of prestige. The meaning of gold is illumination, wisdom, and wealth. Gold often symbolizes high quality.

from http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-meaning.html

That's him alright
He's the happy enthusiastic person in our crew. Good thing to have around
I say go for the second set with the orange in the middle. just my .02 - if your gonna go for flashy - go all out.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Mar 13, 2008 - 1:03 PM

[D-Man]

That's him alright
He's the happy enthusiastic person in our crew. Good thing to have around
I say go for the second set with the orange in the middle.

Thanks!

You think so? The second set? Cuz i was just going to paint up the dash trim; and new steering wheel. (gotta get rid of those air bags) Floor mats and that was about it, maby a random piece her or there... But i wasnt gunna go ALL out and orange the dash or nothing...

but my (soon to be ) turbo piping and everything, i wanna do orange; look pretty hot with the hood up and the top down. Maby then i could park next to that Viper.

Dont lie, you know you wanna see a 6g sitting next to that viper giving it good competition!

Anyone know where to get orange 4 points with the reg buckle? i dont like those pin harness... Or should i keep em black? I know where to get some Black ones with no label.

Not one for free advertising ya'll. But seeing as my wing is a Bomz i might as well do the seats Bomz as well...

[DEATH]

I say if youre gonna do it flashy - go all out. If I was you and into that I'd paint the dash inserts orange also.
BTW - Cops in your area look for aftermarket steering wheels cause they know they can get you for the airbag Trust me the cops over there know me too well
Good luck finding orange IC couplers and sorry but our cars will never give that Viper competion - but we can pretend?

[D-Man]

I say if youre gonna do it flashy - go all out. If I was you and into that I'd paint the dash inserts orange also.
BTW - Cops in your area look for aftermarket steering wheels cause they know they can get you for the airbag Trust me the cops over there know me too well
Good luck finding orange IC couplers and sorry but our cars will never give that Viper competion - but we can pretend?

We shall try (...yeah right...)

We have to have airbags? Since when? It's a law now?

the last time i had an air bag deply, it was after i hit my head on the stearing wheel; and i want expecting it to go off and just WHAM! me in the face like that... I hate airbags... There so dangerous...

Sorry, i know that sounds dumb being scared of a safety device, but i'd feel alot safer without one...

ANd yeah, i am doing the dash inserts orange... just not the WHOLE dash...

This post has been edited by D-Man: Mar 13, 2008 - 4:39 PM

[DEATH]

All safety equipment included on the vehicle originally must stay on the vehicle in good working order. Driver's side airbags have been mandatory in Tx since I think '94 or '96 - something like that.

[D-Man]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!

The onlly time an airbag ever deployed on me was like 4 seconds after the wreck, i was lookin arround and right as i came to a stop on the side of the street: POOF!! in my face... I nearly Shat myself...

This post has been edited by D-Man: Mar 13, 2008 - 4:49 PM

[GriffGirl]

That's him alright
He's the happy enthusiastic person in our crew. Good thing to have around
I say go for the second set with the orange in the middle. just my .02 - if your gonna go for flashy - go all out.

so basically you're saying if D-Man were a dog, he'd be a yellow lab or a golden retriever?

[D-Man]

so basically you're saying if D-Man were a dog, he'd be a yellow lab or a golden retriever?

i dont know anything about dogs... so uh... Are you cussing me?

[DEATH]

That's him alright
He's the happy enthusiastic person in our crew. Good thing to have around
I say go for the second set with the orange in the middle. just my .02 - if your gonna go for flashy - go all out.

so basically you're saying if D-Man were a dog, he'd be a yellow lab or a golden retriever?

Smaller - maybe schnauzer?
D-man - yes

[D-Man]

That's him alright
He's the happy enthusiastic person in our crew. Good thing to have around
I say go for the second set with the orange in the middle. just my .02 - if your gonna go for flashy - go all out.

so basically you're saying if D-Man were a dog, he'd be a yellow lab or a golden retriever?

Smaller - maybe schnauzer?
D-man - yes

Dont pick on the lil guy; your not that big your self ya know!! And ya look as younger that the young'ens in our crew; Mr. "i'm 30 something years old and look like a collage softmore"

[DEATH]

6'3" 200lbs isn't big enough? As for the rest of that statement - thanks
You know we're just messing with you - can't give a compliment like the one above without bringin you back to reality with a lil verbal bitch slappin

Back to topic: Get yourself some seats [like either of the ones above] that look right already. Then go to the cloth store and get some cloth that matches and do your door cards [easy mod and I want to do mine too so we can make a day of it]. Then we'll find some paint that will match and start adding accents. I think Griffgirl has a link to spray paint with various colors available and I know a parts store that has probably 100 diff shades of high heat engine and caliper paints - all of them $5 a can. I think it's best if you find the high heat paint first as it'll be the hardest to color match if you buy other stuff first.
That would look truly sweet.
Sorry - not trying to plan your car out for you - I'm just really stoked about the transformation of your car.
Anybody have a spare door card that I can use temporarliy to make a template?

This post has been edited by DEATH: Mar 14, 2008 - 8:46 AM

[hotgoods23]

h8t to burst your buble but do you have the seat brackets or are you going to customize them yourself I too wanted to do this until I found out about the seat brackets

[D-Man]

6'3" 200lbs isn't big enough? As for the rest of that statement - thanks
You know we're just messing with you - can't give a compliment like the one above without bringin you back to reality with a lil verbal bitch slappin

Back to topic: Get yourself some seats [like either of the ones above] that look right already. Then go to the cloth store and get some cloth that matches and do your door cards [easy mod and I want to do mine too so we can make a day of it]. Then we'll find some paint that will match and start adding accents. I think Griffgirl has a link to spray paint with various colors available and I know a parts store that has probably 100 diff shades of high heat engine and caliper paints - all of them $5 a can. I think it's best if you find the high heat paint first as it'll be the hardest to color match if you buy other stuff first.
That would look truly sweet.
Sorry - not trying to plan your car out for you - I'm just really stoked about the transformation of your car.
Anybody have a spare door card that I can use temporarliy to make a template?

I know, it's all good.

[ reverse quote ] can't bring you back to reality with a lil verbal bitch slappin without give a compliment like the one above. [ / reverse quote ]



Really though, I've know of dye's work for fresh fabric, provided that it's white; That's how we did it on the VC's rides... that's why i was asking about bleach.

Door cards, the fabric piece in the doors? i was actualy wanting to pull those off and look into fabricating a speaker port there... Plus i still gotta figure what parts i'm oranging out and what parts i'm not.

Calipers do need paint... plus i still gotta put some more silicone grease on that front driver break pad, it's gotten squeeky... Prly just needs grease...

Need rims, i've got some pretty rotors, and gunna paint the calipers, and still rolling on factory alloy. LOL!!

h8t to burst your buble but do you have the seat brackets or are you going to customize them yourself I too wanted to do this until I found out about the seat brackets

Seat brackets? I was talking about making seat covers for the existing back seats. or removing them all together and adding the baby "drifter" seat in the center (secured to the frame of course) and Glass in sub enclosures on the sides. For a Convert, that'd be sweet. Then i could have my trunk back

You want to add buckets into your back seat? That could be done easily enough, but i wouldn't recommend it. Those buckets are WAY to big to be stuffing in the back seat.

Go do some measuring first, then measure again. And if you still wanna do it; then i'll tell ya how.

[D-Man]

DEATH, you don't weight 200 lbs...

[DEATH]

DEATH, you don't weight 200 lbs...

Wanna start another bet?

[D-Man]

Wanna start another bet?

Indeed ... Tubby

Wern't you at my house the other day going on about how you were 180 and you only had to work out 2 times a week for just a few min. and you'd retain you "shape"?

Unless you put on a few more LBS since then... And i even bought light beer, i didnt think you'd stack it on that fast. Kidding-Kidding

But really; what is behind the cards in the doors as far as panels go? I'd be intrested in doing something with em'. And what is this i'm hearing about 4 and 5 point seat belts? they have to be angled 45 degreese from your sholder? So they'd go from my sholder to the back glass?

Can anyone enlighten me about this? i think i've been doing something wrong in the past....

[DEATH]

Enough about my weight - I'll prove it to you.

Back on topic: The only thing behind the door cards is the fake leather from the rest of the door panel. So if you take one off it will look funny to you but probably normal for everyone else until you get your custom ones made. I don't really want to take mine off cause they're the stock leather ones [altho they look like sh*t] and I'm gonna leave em on behind the ones I make for extra padding - also so if I decide I don't like it it'll be easier to start again.
As far the harness thing goes - playr will be here in a minute with his marked up pic that he shows everytime someone asks about this. But yeah - you can cause serious spinal injuries if you don't mount them right. Personally I think they are a PITA both to mount and to use everyday and look really ricey unless it's your dedicated drag car or something. Def not worth being paralyzed or some sh*t.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Mar 14, 2008 - 11:00 AM

[D-Man]

i see...

I've used em for a few cars now...

oh well, welll see when plyr gets here...

Are the door cards held on by those crazy, "Folder brad" looking things? i wanna know for the purpose of doing something with em... I'm not going to destroy mine, so when i get a chance to glass a copy; And if i keep the copys over the originals, than you can have my originals. but that'd prob be the best way to have something sound efficient...

[DEATH]

For clarity I'm talking about the little fabric [fake leather on leather cars] peice on the door that goes where your arm rests. that's probably the wrong name for them but you get the idea. So IDKWTF your talking about when you say "to have something sound efficient". it's just for looks. And no they are just glued on with some really weak a$$ glue. I'm surprised yours haven't started falling yet since you're a smoker and you know how poorly the doors were design for keeping water out - rain and washer fluid comes right in directed at that or the window controls depending on speed. Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't change a thing about the way the doors and sill are shaped but it does seem to funnel the water into the worst possible places.

[D-Man]

For clarity I'm talking about the little fabric [fake leather on leather cars] peice on the door that goes where your arm rests. that's probably the wrong name for them but you get the idea. So IDKWTF your talking about when you say "to have something sound efficient". it's just for looks. And no they are just glued on with some really weak a$$ glue. I'm surprised yours haven't started falling yet since you're a smoker and you know how poorly the doors were design for keeping water out - rain and washer fluid comes right in directed at that or the window controls depending on speed. Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't change a thing about the way the doors and sill are shaped but it does seem to funnel the water into the worst possible places.

Yeah, that's what i was talking about. It sounded good to me...

No i'm talking about putting speakers in em... maby shouldnt... i just need speakers...

I'm still deciding on keeping the back seat or not; it works for your kids, they're little; in the Convert, we have less leg room, plus the fron seats are maximum to the back; witch leaves about 1.5-2 inches from the seats.

When you drove my car the other day, you leaned the seat back, it was resting on the back seat. How can anyone fit back there? I was thinking if i set up those corners for 12's then i'd need another set of speakers to equalize the sound better... but then again, i dont keep the bass turned to the lowest freq. i'd prob be fine...

IDK, i just wanna do something different...

[DEATH]

Screw that - it be really difficult to make it look good and how would you even roll the windows down if you mounted speakers there without them sticking way out and looking funny? Maybe I just can't picture what you're talking about.
IMO - Get the vert doors [I now yours is a vert but as I was telling you before - the verts I've seen in the junkyards have an 8 speaker system with an extra 4.5" between the stock 8" in the bottom and the stock tweet in the mirror covers. Replace the stock 8" with a midbase 8", get really expensive and clear sounding [Boston Acoustic?] 4.5" components with tweets, after market 6.5"s in the back, amp the whole mess and call it a day. I could wire you up some really nice harnesses to power all that from the rear mounted amp.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Mar 14, 2008 - 11:48 AM

[D-Man]

I'm just having fabrication withdraws again... Dont mind me...

I get antsey when i dont have the place or time to work on my car. I get stressed out and get the urge to over do things... Dont mind me at all...

I'm just thinkin...

I fcuking hate my appartments...

Okay; now as far as cloth goes.... what were we talking about again?