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post Apr 21, 2008 - 4:43 AM
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post Apr 22, 2008 - 12:08 AM
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post Apr 22, 2008 - 2:08 AM
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hell yeah. they're going all the way this season. i'm thinking its gonna come between them and boston. a lil old school rivalry gonna happen.


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post Apr 22, 2008 - 8:20 PM
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no.its gonna be the year of lebron, kobe is over


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QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Apr 22, 2008 - 3:08 AM) [snapback]666926[/snapback]

hell yeah. they're going all the way this season. i'm thinking its gonna come between them and boston. a lil old school rivalry gonna happen.

Nah, LA won't make it there this year... Boston will, but I think LA is next next... A fully healthy Bynum added into that mix with time to mesh... They will be gooooooood

QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Apr 22, 2008 - 9:20 PM) [snapback]667189[/snapback]

no.its gonna be the year of lebron, kobe is over

Lebron? Good joke, we have already seen that he cannot do it by himself... And he still has no supporting cast.... My pick is Boston or San Antonio


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post Apr 23, 2008 - 6:33 PM
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yes ben Wallace is nothing i suppose....


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QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Apr 23, 2008 - 7:33 PM) [snapback]667477[/snapback]

yes ben Wallace is nothing i suppose....

lol yes, that is true... he had a better supporting cast with hughes there.... Wallace is a good big man defender... and in the east.... that doesn't mean much.... well Dwight Howard... But wallace cannot stop howard....
Lebron
Kobe and Pau
Tim, Tony, Manu
Shaq, Steve, Amare
Boozer, Deron
Howard, Nowitzki, Kidd
CP3, West, Chandler, Peja
Garnett, Pierce, Allen
Billups, sheed, rip
Lewis, Howard, Turk
Now... What is the common factor? More than one weapon! Well minus the Cavs, they're done after beating a very weak Wizards team


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QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Apr 23, 2008 - 5:16 PM) [snapback]667496[/snapback]

QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Apr 23, 2008 - 7:33 PM) [snapback]667477[/snapback]

yes ben Wallace is nothing i suppose....

lol yes, that is true... he had a better supporting cast with hughes there.... Wallace is a good big man defender... and in the east.... that doesn't mean much.... well Dwight Howard... But wallace cannot stop howard....
Lebron,wallace
Kobe and Pau,u forgot jackson, the main reason the lakers are doing so well
Tim, Tony, Manu(old,but always a good team)
Shaq, Steve, Amare(good)
Boozer, Deron(who?)
Howard, Nowitzki, Kidd(old and german)u forgot terry
CP3, West, Chandler, Peja(who)
Garnett, Pierce, Allen(no chemistry)
Billups, sheed, rip(who?)
Lewis, Howard, Turk(who?)
Now... What is the common factor? More than one weapon! Well minus the Cavs, they're done after beating a very weak Wizards team


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GO SPURS GO woot.gif


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la all the way. with kobe finally getting mvp.


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Kobe just put on a show today. Good game!


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post May 11, 2008 - 5:33 PM
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2-2!!!!


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i know... crap. they should've went for the win instead of the tie. with kobe's back injury, pau and fish with 5 fouls each, and turiaf ejected... i didn't think they'd last another 5 mins. at least they're back home for game 5.


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GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hate the Jazz but I hate the Lakers even more...

So good to see Utah even this series and Kobe hurt biggrin.gif


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lakers FTL
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Did you think Kobe ball hogged in overtime? He had numerous chances to pass the ball but instead he went for it himself..... with a back pain....


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in that game it looked like kobe is going downhill...


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Lakers 4TW i remeber some one say that the rocket would give a run at it... and that the 22 wins in a row actually meant something... lol where is that guy at now?


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GO SPURS GO....


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hey i said tehy were good i didnt say they were championship good..


i stand by wat i said:


its gonna be the year of lebron, kobe is over

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all I want to see is the spurs lose. I hate floppers... glad dallas got knocked out w/ their acting
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QUOTE (zero07 @ May 13, 2008 - 10:35 PM) *
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guess you didnt watch the game
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QUOTE (chucho @ May 13, 2008 - 11:29 PM) *
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GO SPURS GO!


guess you didnt watch the game




go Hornets baby
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Yeah, i watched it.

Just cause your team sucked LAMF doesnt mean you give up on um. smile.gif


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Other than the Pistons, all the teams are having trouble winning without home-court advantage......


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No sh*t! Other than the pistons your right they've all been a weird series.


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B@$T@RD$
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yeah good game. even though la had a big lead i knew utah wasn't gonna let it be that easy. those last few mins were pretty intense.


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GO SPURS GO.... 9 TO GO!


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****ING CELTICs...lol the cavs aren't ready,but you cant argue with 45 points biggrin.gif GO PISTONS

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Im with you zero ....

Go spurs go.....

Hornets FTL .... One good rookie....just drop him an elbow there goes the season.

Lakers FTL....

Pistons FTL.....

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Hornets FTL .... One good rookie....just drop him an elbow there goes the season.


GREAT logic
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GO SPURS GO! 8 TO GO!


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****ING CELTICs...lol the cavs aren't ready,but you cant argue with 45 points biggrin.gif GO PISTONS

Yeah you can argue.... 45 in a loss... is still.. a loss


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QUOTE (99Celica @ May 19, 2008 - 4:32 PM) *
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Hornets FTL .... One good rookie....just drop him an elbow there goes the season.


GREAT logic


unfortunately Paul isnt a rookie


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Chris Paul was ROBBED and shoulda won MVP honors. Led the league in steals and assists and still managed to drop about 21 ppg is nice. Especially with a team like the Hornets where they lack the star power. Kobe was great all year but it was the Gasol trade that really turned their season around (28-15 before Gasol trade). Kobe also had Lamar Odom who was SOLID through the playoffs. With Bynum goin down, without that Gasol trade, they wouldnt be where they are right now... Paul was on a team that nobody wanted to go to especially after Katrina. He's by far the best point in the league and is one of the best defensive players as well and his 5 steals per game says so.

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also phil jackson ^^^^^cant forget the zen mastu


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I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


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the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.


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QUOTE (j0e_p3t @ May 28, 2008 - 2:38 AM) *
3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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i have to admit... when i first saw it, i thought it was a foul. but after seeing the replays, the refs made a good call. cuz if barry just jumped straight up to take the shot, fisher wouldn't have jumped into him. if barry jumped into fisher in the act of shooting they probably would've called it. instead barry dribbled the ball into fisher. if anything, it would've been a foul before the shot and they'd have to inbound the ball with tenths of a sec left. but i don't think there was enough contact for that.


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QUOTE (snapshotgt @ May 28, 2008 - 7:57 AM) *
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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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i have to admit... when i first saw it, i thought it was a foul. but after seeing the replays, the refs made a good call. cuz if barry just jumped straight up to take the shot, fisher wouldn't have jumped into him. if barry jumped into fisher in the act of shooting they probably would've called it. instead barry dribbled the ball into fisher. if anything, it would've been a foul before the shot and they'd have to inbound the ball with tenths of a sec left. but i don't think there was enough contact for that.


The lakers were over the foul limit. 2 shots from the line would have still come if it had been called on the ground. If made, the game would have gone into OT.


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Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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the league admitted that should have been a foul..2 wrongs dont make a right...


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QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 28, 2008 - 12:18 AM) *
I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.


I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

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the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.


He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

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Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.


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gasol was an extremely valuable addition to the lakers. bynum showed increasing potential this season, but the lakers kinda got lucky he got injured. if that didn't happen, no gasol. and he really does compliment kobe so well. but yeah, props to kobe for leading the lakers to be the wc champs.


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I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.


I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

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the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.


He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

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Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.

you cannot compare kobe to jordan,with out phil jackson kobe bryant would be close to nothing

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I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.


I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

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the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.


He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

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Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.

you cannot compare kobe to jordan,with out phil jackson kobe bryant would be close to nothing



Wow ur an ignorant SOB...When did i ever compare kobe to jordan in the way they play? Point it out. The only thing i said is that Kobe needed somebody else the way Jordan needed Pippen to help the Bulls get over the hump; and he got that help in Gasol. Gasol is the Pippen of the Lakers... Its an indirect comparison. I never said Kobe plays as good as Jordan or is the next Jordan did I? LOL

Ignorance man... laugh.gif

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lol it seems i cant get away from u,im just saying kobe is on of the best players when he is on,phil jackson makes the team click which causes kobe to click,jordan was always clicking


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lol it seems i cant get away from u,im just saying kobe is on of the best players when he is on,phil jackson makes the team click which causes kobe to click,jordan was always clicking


ummm so what does that have anything to do what i said before? don't call me out if you dont know what you're talkin about.


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you are trying to compare kobe and jordan with needing another player to go to,kobe doesn't need another player he needs a team that will give him the ball and not ask questions


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^ have you watched a laker game recently? last season i'd agree with your ballhog kobe statement. but not anymore. i mean, he'll take over when he needs to, but he doesn't really have to do that anymore with a team that can play. and no one really compares kobe to mike anymore. they said so a few years back when he showed potential and people claimed he would be the next mike just cuz they're both gaurds. everyone realizes by now that there's only one mike, and kobe's just the first kobe.


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yea i must say he has become a much better player this year than last year,but he should not of gotten mvp imo.HE should have gotten it a few years ago when he got huge points and was a baby back bitch but he played better back then as a single player.


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yea i must say he has become a much better player this year than last year,but he should not of gotten mvp imo.HE should have gotten it a few years ago when he got huge points and was a baby back bitch but he played better back then as a single player.




Doesn't matter to me.. cuz they just WOOOOOOOOOOON!!!! w00t w00t!!!!


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you are trying to compare kobe and jordan with needing another player to go to,kobe doesn't need another player he needs a team that will give him the ball and not ask questions


I love how you PRETEND to know what you're talkin about. lol. Every star player needs help to get their team over the hump. Unless Lebron gets any help he's not goin anywhere. Same with Chris Paul. Kobe finally got the help he needed in Gasol. Is it coincidence that the Lakers made it to the finals with Shaq and Kobe? But when Shaq left, they struggled to make it past the first round of the playoffs? then they get somebody like Gasol to help Kobe and they're back in the finals...Put 2 and 2 together.


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no kobe can win a game single handedly he just need ppl that will be able to put up a few points and do well on defense but still be able to let him shine above the rest...


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no kobe can win a game single handedly he just need ppl that will be able to put up a few points and do well on defense but still be able to let him shine above the rest...


ok now im bein serious...are u really that ignorant? When i say getting OVER THE HUMP...i mean getting past the playoffs and into the championships.


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yes well they are doing very well because they have a superstar,a super coach,a big guy in the middle and a man that can make 3s when asked.I have no problem with that,but that is wat is happening as i see it


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Sorry, but Odom was Laker's MVP last previous years. Looking back at the win/loss records from previous years, Lakers win more when Kobe's injured than when Odom's injured. He's like the unsung hero, the glue that puts the triangle offense together. Gasol is basically an upgrade of Odom. Seriously, look at the stats, similar numbers across the board. Odom deferred to Gasol, which explains his lower stats this year, but career wise, very same players.

You're right that Gasol was the Lakers MVP this year. But take away those two players, and Lakers are back at square one. One ball hog who believed that his teams success rode on his shoulders each game. I find it illogical when your "best" player needs to play sub-optimally (score less, do less) in order for you team to be at its best. Not saying that they are better without him, but they play better when he does less. Therefore, Kobe isn't the Lakers best player. Take your pick of either two big men (three if you count Bynum).

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it was 6 games, #1 VS #1 i say its gonna be celtics since garrnet and alan are so experienced in the clutch,but so is kobe and gasol so it could be either i guess,

GO CELTICS

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I'm a Laker fan, so I don't really care about individualism.. Kobe not as great as Chris Paul, not as great as James... it doesn't matter. As long as he is playing great team basketball with his teammates, then I'm happy. I believe a team needs players that click in order to win. Look at the 2004 Lakers, they're the dream team with not only a Big 3, they have like... Big 4, or 5 if you count Fisher. But since they don't click, they couldn't win basketball games, turn overs left and right, they sucked.

Anyway, It'd be great if the Lakers can beat the Celtics, but even if they lose, I'm happy for them to be at least able to get back in the Final stages again.

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QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 30, 2008 - 11:11 PM) *
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Celtics in 7!


Over the Lakers

up to game 7? where's the confidence? you can't bet on a team if you think its gonna go to 7. its anyone's game if it takes a series of 7. and i'm hoping it will cuz that'd be awesome to watch. but win or lose, lakers always have been and always will be my team.


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3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

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Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.


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ok

Gm. 1: LAL 89, SAS 85 good close game
Gm. 2: LAL 101, SAS 71 lakers blow out
Gm. 3: SAS 103, LAL 84 spurs blow out
Gm. 4: LAL 93, SAS 91 bs call
Gm. 5: LAL 100, SAS 92 lakers win

Now lets say that the spurs won game 4,then it would be 2-2,a very good series!!!!And obviously the teams were matched fairly well if after the lakers blew out the spurs then the spurs blew out the lakers.That call changed the series..

i hope this goes to a good game 7,there has only been 1 really good game 7 and that was the celticsVScavs.The spurs hornets went into game 7 but i don't think it was a nail biter.CELTICS IN 7(i got it now cama thx lol)

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no kobe can win a game single handedly he just need ppl that will be able to put up a few points and do well on defense but still be able to let him shine above the rest...


ok now im bein serious...are u really that ignorant? When i say getting OVER THE HUMP...i mean getting past the playoffs and into the championships.

ok im with shogun here.... you have to be ignorant... Kobe can win a regular season game single handedly, and so could Jordan. NEITHER of them could CONSISTENTLY win on their own in the playoffs. It's just not possible.... Jordan was amazing, Kobe is amazing, Wilt, Kareem, and the list goes on... bottom line, you CANNOT compare these people, different times, different surroundings, different EVERYTHING... Get serious


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1st game tooooniiiigggghhhttt!!!! woot.gif


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5:30 on abc ,this will be great biggrin.gif

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SINCE THE LAKERS ACQUIRED PAU GASOL THEY'VE ONLY LOST 8 GAMES...ENOUGH SAID. Without Gasol they Lakers wouldve been knocked out in the 1st or 2nd round.


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Lakers got spanked. Will they respond? Doubt it. Will head back to LA 0-2. KG's too hungry to let his team lose. Pierce and Allen are playing with desperation to end their careers with a ring. Most of the Lakers are just happy to be in the finals. And Kobe's too busy dreaming about that Finals MVP to play within the triangle.

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Lakers got spanked. Will they respond? Doubt it. Will head back to LA 0-2. KG's too hungry to let his team lose. Pierce and Allen are playing with desperation to end their careers with a ring. Most of the Lakers are just happy to be in the finals. And Kobe's too busy dreaming about that Finals MVP to play within the triangle.

3 more to go, Celtics in 7!



they got spanked? did u even watch the game? it was a close one. they lakers played like pig crap and it was still close kobe was like 0-7 in the first. they played horrible and still were close bad sign for the celtics. lakers in 5. And the lake show is down a huge player, and they r still gonna win. And they will win again when Bynum is back. its just not the celtics time.


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Lakers got spanked. Will they respond? Doubt it. Will head back to LA 0-2. KG's too hungry to let his team lose. Pierce and Allen are playing with desperation to end their careers with a ring. Most of the Lakers are just happy to be in the finals. And Kobe's too busy dreaming about that Finals MVP to play within the triangle.

3 more to go, Celtics in 7!



they got spanked? did u even watch the game? it was a close one. they lakers played like pig crap and it was still close kobe was like 0-7 in the first. they played horrible and still were close bad sign for the celtics. lakers in 5. And the lake show is down a huge player, and they r still gonna win. And they will win again when Bynum is back. its just not the celtics time.


Did you even watch the game? The celtics were down by 5 in the 3rd and ended up winning by 10. Seems to me that they went on a 15 point overturn to the end of the game. Your right, it was close in the Frst half, but after that, the Celtics started playing like they should. And this was also with PJ Brown, Posey, and Cassell playing most of the 3rd and some of the 4th. Now this, is a bad sign for the Lakers. Celtics were in foul trouble for a lot of the game, and the bench came through. I don't see how this is a bad sign for the Celtics. All i know is that the Celtics are up one, and its going to be a long, hard fought series.


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"Did you even watch the game? The celtics were down by 5 in the 3rd and ended up winning by 10. Seems to me that they went on a 15 point overturn to the end of the game"
That doesn't mean much of anything... It's the NBA, 15 points can happen in a matter of 2 minutes


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That doesnt mean anything? it means that they didnt play as poorly as some people think they did. And it didnt happen in a matter of 2 minutes so your point doesnt really work here. It may in another game, but not this one.


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Despite how the Lakers played (good or at their best), Boston's mediocre or average will still be better, as indicated by the 2nd half. Defense wins over offense, and the Lakers are an offensive-minded club.

Boston isn't going to roll over the Lakers, but they took the Lakers best(?) punch and still won. Which in my mind, means they got spanked in the fanny!

Game two will decide who will win, if Boston wins by 10 or more again, then yeah, it's over. Celtics in 7 (or less).

Sorry man, I know you're showing love for your team, but come on, be serious. Lakers in 5?

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The Celtics went on a crazy shooting spree in the 3rd quarter, in which I think has a lot to do with the whole Pierce's incident which made the entire Celtics squad more focus. At the same time, seems like since Pierce's exit, the Lakers lost their focus on the D.

Then in the 4th quarter, the Celtics refined their D and contained Kobe.

All in all, it was a very interesting game. It's definitely not like the last couple years' boring finals.

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it takes 4 to win it not 3 if u win by 10+ and by no stretch of the imagination was that the lakers best shot. The lakers will never shoot that poorly again the could not throw a beach ball in the ocean in game 1, its funny bcuz if Doc had 2 brains cells 2 rub together he would post and repsot KG EVERY SInGLE POSSESION, and this would be a short series but since Paul has 2 big of an ego he wont let them, do that. PP is the celtics gift that got them to the final and the curse that end it there. End of story.


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If tonight's reminded me of how a cat will play with a mouse before killing it.

Lakers again did their best against the Celtics and came up short. And to those who say the Lakers could have STOLEN this game, that is exactly the point. They were never meant to win it, if they had, it would have been considered an upset. Celtics took the Lakers best punch (in my opinion) in the 4th quarter and still held on to win. Also, the Lakers shot well this game and still lost. So despite scoring more points and at a higher %, it wasn't good enough.

I doubt the Lakers will make it to game 7 now...

2 more wins!




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it takes 4 to win it not 3 if u win by 10+ and by no stretch of the imagination was that the lakers best shot. The lakers will never shoot that poorly again the could not throw a beach ball in the ocean in game 1, its funny bcuz if Doc had 2 brains cells 2 rub together he would post and repsot KG EVERY SInGLE POSSESION, and this would be a short series but since Paul has 2 big of an ego he wont let them, do that. PP is the celtics gift that got them to the final and the curse that end it there. End of story.



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QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Jun 8, 2008 - 10:05 PM) *
The Lakers shot well this game and still lost. So despite scoring more points and at a higher %, it wasn't good enough.



The Lakers defended like CRAP today. Very sloppy defending.

They didn't shoot well at all in 2nd, 3rd, and half of 4th until 5 or 6 minutes till the end of the game.

Kobe didn't do much penetrations until the 4th quarter, mostly due to the Celtics' defense got loosen up in 4th.

But the main reason why the Lakers were down by 24 was their crappy defense today.


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Paul Pierce.
The Celtics leading scorer for the last 8 years or so and now finally has some great tallent around him and he's only gotten better. Put all the focus on KG, Pierce will light it up.

The Celitic bench is much better than the Lakers, Kobe will win a few games for them but the Cs have the series.


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Looks like the faker fans decided to keep their mouth shut this time! KG and PP have waited long enough and they want it bad.
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lol, nice post Dustin
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Series is far from being over til the Celtics win on the road. If the Lakers can tie up the series, the Celtics are in deep sh***


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i have to admit, i am a lil worried after watching how the lakers played in game 2. i wasn't expecting them to win an away game till later, but they kinda sucked. i could blame it on some of the questionable fouls called by the refs. but yeah, that's no excuse. at least the lakers kinda redeemed themselves the last few mins. this game would've been a serious blow if they lost by 20+ points. props to the celtics for not letting kobe heat up. 3 home games... they better take advantage of them or we're screwed. lakers haven't loss at home yet so we'll see if boston really is the better team.

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Wow lots of starters were in their off night, from both teams.


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What a crap game,peirce was slow,garnett was slow, odom was crap,and gasol was bad.Bye bye lakers,game 7 is in boston biggrin.gif ,


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woot.gif THEY ARE BACK BABY!!!!!we have a game,24 points to 2 points.wat a game..


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yeah they blew a big lead.
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And that right there, is why the Lakers can not hang with the Celtics


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And that right there, is why the Lakers can not hang with the Celtics


Celtics can't win on the road, and until they figure out how to do so, this is going to be a very close series. Both teams match up EXTREMELY well. Lamar Odom is a poor man's Kevin Garnett. Both have the ssame skill sets and have the same height and body type...IM NOT SAYIN ODOM IS AS GOOD SO DONT JUMP DOWN MY THROAT. Kobe, Gasol and Fisher are just as good as Pierce, Garnett and Allen, in my opinion. Fisher is the most UNDERRATED player in the NBA by far. He's so money.


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wow for somebody that works at ESPN, i shoulda known that game 4 was today. dumb me.


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So.....anyone here still think the Lakers are still contenders and not pretenders?

Man it must suck to be a Laker fan right now...seeing as how your team blew an 18 lead at home to a supposedly inferior road team...I can't imagine which must feel worse, game 4's collapse or game 2's heartbreaking failure?



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