 Rice Burner haters, why????!!!! |
 Sep 7, 2003 - 7:52 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
okay, these 2 people were talking about burning out and stuff cause they had their so called "american muscle" cars and i said that my car can burn out pretty well but not really good. so one of them gets pissed off! he tells me "you might be able to PEELout but you cant BURNout"...i didnt know there was a difference!
so then he tells me "you cant even talk in conversations like this cause you have a rice burner you f***er." so then, later, they are talking about how many valves they have in their engines and they both say 2 valves per cylinder and i say "i have 4 valves per cylinder so thats like 16 valves." (not trying to act like my car is better or anything) and the guy gets pissed off again! he's all "no you dont! thats bs." anyway, i tell him im positive because it says right on the engine "16 valves". this just pissed me off very badly. he always talks about how "4 bangers" suck ass. some of them have over 300 hp! plus, he has this crappy $2300 '89 mustang w/a crappy paint job and he thinks his car is sooo much better than mine. he hates all rice burners and i just dont understand how people hate them so much. he knows that i know that his car is faster than mine...but its not slower than **** like he says it is. thank you for listening to my frustration of these kinds of people. 
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Sep 7, 2003 - 7:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
some poeple just think that there cars are the best cars ever made.. but just tell them is your car is the best car ever made they would still make it right..
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Sep 7, 2003 - 8:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
get yourself some laughing gas and show up those idiots. I can't stand people like that.
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Sep 7, 2003 - 8:55 PM
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laughing gas?
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Sep 7, 2003 - 9:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nitrous oxide, no2, otherwise known as NAAAAAWS hahaha sorry I couldn't resist 
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Sep 7, 2003 - 9:04 PM
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ohhhh
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Sep 7, 2003 - 9:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 3, '03 From Dandridge, Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ehh my dad is like that, allways talking **** on " rice burners" he doesn't under stand that half of the people on this board could whomp all over his ass in a race.
we constantly argue about why people spend money supping(sp) up a 4cyl "i dont know why people waste money on those pussy engines" is something he would say, my dad is a very simple minded person. haha  .but all in all I think they are just afraid of the rice burner. -Brandon |
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Sep 7, 2003 - 10:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Im the same, a friend of mine has a ss camaro and he has put 17k into it and it only runs 14 seconds (no turbo or super, all engine). Im like dude, you give me 17k and i will modify an import that will rape you. But muscle car owners are stuck up on having "all engine". Unfortunetly there are "muscle car owners" and "ricers" and then "us". I know almost everyone on this board would never hate on any other car, not to mention our cars are not "rice burners" There arent many "rice" mods for our cars. And we show respect to other cars, for example the 300zx pic in the off topic, everyone who saw it gave it a huge compliment, if you were to put that pic on a honda or chevy website all you would get is hate. Its pretty much ridiculous.
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Sep 7, 2003 - 11:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
there are guys like that at my school, except they hate on hondas and foci. i always get asked how fast my car is
the best thing is that out of all the people i hear talking about cars only the people that respect my car for what it is know anything. i can talk circles even around the auto shop teacher, who i am conviced is only the auto shop teacher because they let him store his boat on campus. now some of you guys may not like this analogy but i relate the domestic vs import rivalry to racism. its all learned by kids from their parents that grew up with 300+hp camaros and gutless hondas -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 8, 2003 - 12:21 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
fact is i was reading the fourgasm article in C&D. they had a bunch of "ricer burners", made by some fairly decent aftermarket companies out there testing their cars and such to see how they measured up. they had some pretty quick ones, and most were in a pretty decent price range. the most expensive was a cobb tuning WRX which totaled like 84K, the second most expensive was the Comptech S2000 which was like 68K. the comptech finished the competition the fastest, which consisted of a standing 1/4, into a road race section, then onto the oval track where you brought the car to 130 MPH, then once you did that, you got onto the brakes untill the car was at a complete stop. all in one run, testing all aspects of the car. (this was done at CAL speedway.) well after the competition was done, and everyone was packing up, they brought out a bone stock '04 Z06 which i think cost like 58k, which spanked every car in every aspect, and finished the course 1.4 seconds faster than the comptech S2000.
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Sep 8, 2003 - 12:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no replacement for displacement. boosting only helps a little. as for $84k into a wrx? what exactly did they do? im pretty sure that included the cost of the car and what ever cosmetic stuff they did because if i spend 84k on my car im pretty sure the would be illegal even on a track z06's are ok. they are fast and powerful and have good handling, but its nothing different from a regualar corvette except for high compression and factory performance parts. they should have put in a big block, or had an SC engine -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 8, 2003 - 12:58 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 26, '03 From St. George, Utah Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
People need to learn to show respect for what other people enjoy. There will always be people who are a$$ holes though. Anyway, people need to quit comparing muscle cars to imports because beside the fact that they are cars they have almost nothing in common. It is like comparing a 737 to an F-18. Anyway, not all guys with muscle cars are jerks. I got a couple buddies that have some sweet Super Sports and Chevelles and they love it when me and some other "four-bangers" come cruisin with them.
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Sep 8, 2003 - 1:03 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This is exactly the problem. All these kids grow up with their dad having a Camaro or Rustang, or Firebird, and of course you look up to your dad...so you see that those cars are ultra cool, but unfortunately as you grow up you're completely ignorant to the fact that there are other automobiles out there, so you grow a mullet, and install a Old Milwaukee holder in you Trans Am and **** talk cars with 1.8L engines, even though when properly modified could stomp all over your Trans Am with RAM AIR (RAM AIR, OMG). I'm glad the first new car my dad ever bought was a '79 Celica. (Sorry, I needed to vent...my ex-girlfriend wanted a Firebird...and I dislike my ex-girlfriend greatly, because her and her brother talked **** about my car). This post has been edited by Cody: Sep 8, 2003 - 1:04 AM |
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Sep 8, 2003 - 3:24 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '03 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
For the most part. Not many ppl have our cars or even sup it up. Reasons being is that no one knows much about the celica! If you ask a honda tuner about the 6th gen celica they'll respond to the toyota engine and how it is. the car never became popular when it came out because of its brothers/sisters (depends how you look at it) the mr2 and the supra. Both were made to be fast. and if you were lookin to race back in the 90's they were the cars to get from toyota. And the celica apeals more to the ladies til this day!
If toyota wanted to make the celica their top line sportcar then it would have been 2 seater and equipped with the 3s-gte. but then again that sounds like the mr2. |
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Sep 8, 2003 - 4:22 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '03 From Fairbanks AK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
what i find interesting is that they consider their cars to be high performance when anything over 5k rpm would scatter their engine all over the pavement not to mention the super efficient 8 mpg or less that they are getting. Furthermore last time i checked my celi did a bit more than go in a straight line.
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Sep 8, 2003 - 4:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i agree also.. my dad loves audi's so do i.. but luck me he is a mechanic and he told me something that opened my eyes.. he said all cars are good it just matters how well you take care of them. and all engine work the same(4 stroke engines). -------------------- |
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Sep 8, 2003 - 5:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 28, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's just those idiotic people that watch fast n the furious too much and buy a honda and say that they race when all it have is an intake that give all other import owners a bad name. People like those that just give us a bad name so people that are into them muscle cars n stuff just generalize us into that same category but they don't know us well enough to know that we're not as stupid as that. Plus, they give us that excues about how we waste so much money to make it as fast as their car. On the other hand, all we do is see them waste money on their old ass "american muscle" just to try to maintain them . I aint hatin on any american cars cus some of them got some major balls but if they gunna lay it on us I might as well turn it around back on them cus it aint liek they're cars are the shiz anyways. All i gotta say is that they should get a clue before they say **** cus for all they know they're will be a "ricer" around that'll set them in their place.
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Sep 8, 2003 - 12:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so what if they cant rev over 5000rpm(btw they can and many do have a 6k-6.5k redline) my cousin had a 2000 mustang GT with an off road h pipe, borla exhaust, and CAI as well as 3.73 gears. the car had amazing low end power and was very fast despite the 6k or so redline. sometimes he would rev up really high just to piss off his neighbors. no point in reving past the power band. that is why i like my car more than a honda with Vtec or a new GTS with vvtli. where is the fun in having a car where the power starts after the the power of a lower rpm engine has been fully reached? HP sells cars, torque wins races. performance wise, i will always choose good low end power over high HP #'s at 7krpm+ the vortec 305 and 350 engines in the newer chevy trucks and cars are very well capable of 18-20mpg, which is not bad when you look at the displacment. its the drivers that make the car get 8mpg -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 8, 2003 - 2:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
This is true. The respect train runs only one way here. If they respected what we do with our cars, then I could show a little bit for them. I don't hate the cars they drive - I hate the car's drivers. |
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Sep 8, 2003 - 3:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Just like hondas, I dont hate the car, I hate the driver
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Sep 9, 2003 - 11:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 11, '03 From Kennesaw, Ga Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My dad is all into the American Muscle Cars, he's always bought American cars for himself, but he actually likes my Celica.
He's got his 70 Chevelle that is just a beast, and he told me when I was looking for a car that he didn't think I should go with a car like the Celica. I agreed with him at first. However, we stumbled upon one while we were looking and figured we take it for a test drive just to see. Needless to say his opinion and mine changed after that and I ended up buying the car. I'd be more than happy with either one, but having one of each would be great .The celica is the first car I've boughten on my own, so it will always be more appealing overall
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Sep 9, 2003 - 8:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i also believe it is the way they were brought up to liking "american muscle." 2 of my good friends own mustangs and love them because both of them had parents who owned classic mustangs, corvettes, etc. both of them think their cars are just superior compared to cars like ours.
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Sep 10, 2003 - 9:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '03 From South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I get alot of respect from domestics. The only time I had a hater was when the guy got all pissed because I was talking about how his SHO was way to heavy to contend with my car. He got all pissed and said if I didn't watch my mouth my car would be my coffin. Well, he thought I was the strong silent type, I'm not
. So, it ended in vilence, the good thing though is that atleast I didn't hurt him too bad but I broke a knuckle in my right hand and it hurt like hell the day after. I still see him at the track but he avoids me. I don't know why, I'm a nice guy most of the time. Oh well.....J |
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Sep 10, 2003 - 10:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lol, dude i would never get in a confrontation with u, your friggin huge. Lol way to put him in his place tho. |
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Sep 11, 2003 - 9:32 AM
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I agree with Jussimple's tactic
most haters out there are just talkers. they cant and wont try to back it up. just talk some i'll knock you out bitch and they will stop. |
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Sep 11, 2003 - 7:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well perhaps you are missing out on the fact that they have tons of torque between 0-5k? And that performance usually starts with RWD? And that, to this day, Displacement dominates over Vtec (vtec will never pwn anything). You do know Vtec is for economy engines (Mostly) in that the engine timing is finally brought up to "normal" and UN-Economical speeds when Vtec hits...IE every other normal car runs "vtec" all the time (I read a long faq on that). I am here cause I love 6th Gen celica's as a practical DD, but please don't make out any of these FWD 4 cyllander cars into something their not. By the time you swap out all the "economy" parts (suspension, port and reinforcement, add forced induction, etc etc) you finally have DECENT speed but are still FWD (And there is no defense for FWD, it simply SUCKS when it comes to performance). Alas, the GT4 is cool, AWD + Turbo helps a lot in the 4cylli equation. I think most 4-cylander owners assume their cars are fast when the "speed" you are feeling is generally because the car is light and weak. Given, I've driven a 4-500hp 7.8 litre V8 Trans Am, My own Mr2 Turbo (MR fun, with 250 hp to boot!), and gotten rides in an Rx7.....I've come to appreciate REAL sports cars and the true soul,finesse, and spirit that is alltogether inspirational. Again, don't get me wrong, you can build up a cheap 4 cyllander honda/toyota...but it's still FWD...and still looks the way it does...and is nowhere near (in my book) as fun/cool/inspirational as a purebred sports car like the FD that will be in my garage this spring
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Sep 11, 2003 - 11:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well u have to remember our cars are reliable, look good, and can get some good power (not great, but good).
and with a good engine swap, anything is possible. so there is no reason for anyone to dis our cars...or any cars. |
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Sep 12, 2003 - 11:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Reliable? So is a sports car if you know what you're doing (And the Supra, no matter what you do it is). Look Good? well that's opinionated. But even if you tried to make that factual, Economy cars were designed with everyday driver in mind, nothing outstanding, radical, or much different at all. When it comes to sports cars, it's the complete opposite. "Lets make it unique, beautiful, give it some heritage". I don't know, to me, and IN MY OPINION, it's apples to oranges. A civic will never send chills down my spine like an Rx7 or z06. Good power? Power requires turbo or displacement, which all Eco4cyllanders lack. What helps when you have little power is to be very LIGHT, which they are, which makes them feel fast, but they aren't fast. With a good engine swap....yes, anything is. But its not how the car came, and in the end that rebuild + cost of surrounding mods/exterior + car could mean a real sports car that came with that power from the factory, and is RWD, beautiful, and tons more fun. So no, I am not dissing eco cars, but I just recognize the place they are meant to be in: Practical everyday cars. "You can't polish a turd" 
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Sep 12, 2003 - 8:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
We are on a Celica site, not a Civic site.
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Sep 13, 2003 - 1:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Yeah, I dunno what the point of people going on and on about what car is better get out of it. Its whatever you are happy with, not what makes other people happy. That said, I WILL NEVER EVER buy an american car again in my life after my first car, a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3. That car, hands down, has to win the biggest piece of sh*t award ever. In the 45,000 mi that i had it ( I bought it new ) the emmisions system failed 3 times, the battery exploded, and the transmission failed at 30,000 (auto)! Thats not counting all the "minor" problems like loose mirrors, loose trim, and the CD player never working for more than 30 min. I was at the dealer with somthing under warranty at least every other week. Needless to say I got sick of it and bought a car I have always found to be very very beautiful, my Celica coupe. As much as there are people who swear by domestic cars who talk trash about how our imports are slow and worthless, there will never EVER come the day that you will hear of this guy's chevy or that guy's ford running 100,000 mi without somthing going wrong. I mean come on- most of us on this site have celicas approaching 100,000 or better, all without ANY mechanical problems. Now you go and tell me when is the last time you saw any american car commonly go 100,000 mi with no problems? You dont. It makes me think of my grandpa when his buick died and he got a toyota camry for a loaner. he said that his 1936 pontiac he had way back in the day was a nicer car! OOOOOKKKK! Its attitudes like that I cant stand. So for all the trast talk us import lovers may have to recieve from the ignorant- just smile in your head at the fact that you know you'll never need a tow truck, unlike the unlucky man with the mustang who just blew a head gasket trying to show you what was up...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From NYC, Queens Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hm~~~ well~~~ r u really gonna put an rx7 next to a z06??? hello??? in stock form this cars are in different worlds. for all i know fd3s rx7 has 1.6 liter displacement? and to get it to hab 400+ hp that the z06 has u hab to go through a painstaking process and looooooooooooooots of money. sure rwd cars are very fun. but they aren't winter cars, which some ppl need. no matter what~~ it all boils down to money~~~ wif money u can do wutever u want. wanna make it go fast down the quarter??? bore the engine, add a turbo, swap it if u want. wanna make crazy drifts??? stiffen the suspension, get sticky tires, struts and sway bars. add a lil turbo if u'd like. but then again~~~ all boils down to money. u mite as well juss buy a lambo murcielago. hehehehe
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
....okay. But what you are "happy" and "Reassured" driving doesn't change whether its a Sports car of true performance or not. If you drive a civic, its a civic. And if you are happy cause it can go to 200k and not break down, cool for you. As for me, I'd rather have the gas pedal as my entrance to a rollercoaster ride on the way to work and back, and perhaps have a reason to look under the hood and get together with friends and mess around once in a while...including upgrading the cars power.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about cars? The z06 is rated at 405hp. While the Rx7 is "Only" 275hp stock (In Japan), it is still a Japanese supercar...why? Well there's more to a car than what's written on paper about it... To get its ***1.3*** litres of displacement to 350rwhp which would definitely outhandle and give the z06 a run for its money requires injectors, downpipe, and perhaps an ecu (FMIC?) or even a street port. Doesn't take a lot to make a stock turbo'd Rx7 to 300rwhp or so...which is a lot given its relative LIGHT-weight. And at the same time, it outhandles most other cars, what with the engine being pushed back to provide the best 50/50 MR-ish handling and all.. I think you shouldn't comment on that which you don't know. As for what else you said, its all relevant (as others had said) but doesn't apply to the subject as to why some cars are rice and others aren't. It's simply because you make something out to what it isn't, and act/think/consider it a performance beast, when its not (ricer vehicles). Yes, with Money you can buy anything, and make any car fast (Given, you rip the eco-cars apart and basically not make it anything like how it comes stock making it more of a hybrid/mutation than to actually hold that vehicle name/title)....but we already knew that.... |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 12:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, displacement on a rotary is a whole other world. The 13B gets 255HP when cramming 1.3 liters of gas and air into the rotor housing, while we get 110HP with 1.8 liters in each cylinder. And the engine is half the size of ours too.
But all in all, I want a FAST car that will get me to 200k. |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 1:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok, this thread is talking about people who hate rice burners. not about how sports cars are so much greater than celicas. i was talking about how much more reliable an import like a celica is compared to a sh*tty american car. i would never ever say anything bad about a supra, Rx7, or any of those types of sports cars. the point of all this is that yea a mustang or a firebird may be fast, but they will never be as efficient or last as long as "rice burners". so therefore they should not talk smack about them, even if they are slower than those american cars. This post has been edited by 6gencelicasrule: Sep 14, 2003 - 1:11 AM |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:06 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think you mean 1.8l total. if the displacement were 1.8 liters for every cylinder, that would make a huge ass 4 cylinde engine. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Heh, oops. I feel like a dumbass now.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 3:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
MY GOAL IS TO RIP A MUSTANG OR CAMARO UP.. IT WILL BE ACHIEVED BY NEXT SUMMER WITH OUT A DOUBT.
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Sep 14, 2003 - 4:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
this thread is getting rediculous. how did we come from talking about domestic owners who hate all imports to saying how the Celica can't compare to a 'sports car'? I think most of us know what other options exist but we decided to go with the Celica for various reasons. there really is no reason to be talking smack about the Celica because we already know its strengths and weaknesses. thanks though.
 and soundslut please stop posting in all caps, its irritating to the eyes. |
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Sep 14, 2003 - 11:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha, yes i agree |
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Sep 15, 2003 - 12:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From NYC, Queens Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well do U know ANYTHING ABOUT RX7'S??? i can see that u hab one, but i hope u know wut u got ur hands on. about money and painstakin process i was makin reference to the extreme care the rx7's need. u wanna make an rx7 go fast for lil money do it. it wont last u long. those rotaries tend to overheat even wif a good FMIC. plus it's an engine dat wont hesitate to detonate. if u hab anydoubts go to the website of sportscompact magazine. they hab an rx7's project car. i wasnt even sayin rx7's are bad. i luv rx7's. fc3s or fd3s. and i cant wait to see the new one. so dun b comin out as a know it all ass. i was juss givin my opinion. and i dun comment dat which i dunno. im very well aware of the handlin capabilities of rx7's. for u information i've been intro driftin for the past 3 years. one more thing, i thought we were talkin about usdm not jdm rx7s. btw i thought the renesis has a 1.3. the previous had 1.6 thanx for the correction if i was wrong. This post has been edited by 7aek: Sep 15, 2003 - 12:48 AM |
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Sep 15, 2003 - 10:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Okay, and I am simply asying people hate "ricers" (Rice Burners is so hick, its not even used that often anymore) is their infatuation with non-sports cars, and making them into something they're not. Thats why they get the GT wings used from real GT cars, the big exhausts meant for cars with BIG backpressure, and the ground effects to keep the light and fast supercars grounded.... Anyways, even all your arguements against "****ty american cars" is VERY ignorant. Sure, the mustang is cheap, and for a reason, but it doesn't mean all american cars can never see 200k. Besides, every car has wear and tear items, that need replacing, so some american cars need 1/2 things more...who cares? "With great power comes great responsibility". If you are going to ditch RWD and Turbo power for the sake of having to never check a vacuum hose and boost (which, to me, is fun....not *taxing* on my precious time) to drive a "Reliable" Fast car then so be it,..but you forfeit real power and speed for that "I don't have to change the oil at 3000 miles" comfort...which is just sillyness IMO. Anyways, there is a lot of fun in big block displacement. SO what if it doesn't have a turbo or V-tec for higher RPMs....ever womp on a 7.8litre V8? The response at low RPM is wicked. I love big displacement, and that combined with a turbo for higher-RPM power is the best combo (Hmmm like some exotics boast). But alas, we don't alll have the time, money, and availability to "have it all"...so its cool that there are Supra's, Celica's, Rx7's...etc for us to play with Just stop making generalizations to be a fact. |
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Sep 15, 2003 - 10:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 11, '03 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Do you know anything about English? "English Mother****er, do you speak it!"? LOL Seriously, its hard to read your gibberish. But, alas, again you are talking to me about the "horror" stories that haunt the Rx7 "Realm of Scariness." Yes, I do know a lot more than you think and judging by what you've said you are in no position to tell me I don't know Jack about Rx7's. I wasn't coming out as a "know it all ass." In fact, someone else simply stated mis-information about Rx7's and I was correcting him based on my first-hand information and research of over a year now....so you can calm it. LOL simply your comment about knowing how they handle and combining that with Drifting (which is not great handling, just something fun to do with well balanced RWD cars) further downplays any validity you have in this arguement. Read: Do you have any idea what you are talking about? And FYI, I was talkin about Rx7's, which exist here and in Japan, so all of them...duh. 1.3 is the displacement of the 13B engine (Wow, 13 and 1.3 what a concept!) which is in the 3rd Gen Rx7. 20b's come from a different mazda, and 4rotor's are in the 787B supermachine! WOot! |
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Sep 22, 2003 - 10:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 25, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea, i realized that the reason mustangs for example are cheap is because they are less reliable. when i said "****ty american cars" i meant as in cheaply made. i know they are a hell of a lot faster than a lot of import cars...............but not all
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Sep 23, 2003 - 12:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mustangs arent cheap because they arent reliable. mustangs, like anyother car can be just as reliable in the right hands with the right maintanence. a guy i know puts about (no joke) 12K miles on his 5.0 mustang every 2-3 weeks, he has over 250K miles on it, and the only problem hes had over the last year besides regular maintanence was a tie rod end cracked, that was it. and the reason they are cheap is because the over abundance of them that has been and being manufactured has brought the price WAYYY down, its like anything else, the more bulk you create, the cheaper you can sell them. same goes for resell value, if your car is identical to a bunch of others out there, then you need to make the price more enticing so someone will want to buy yours over the next guys. which is the same reason DSMs are so cheap, and Supras hold their value so well.
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Sep 23, 2003 - 1:36 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's a budget car. It's one of those few cars that you don't have to special order to buy. You can just go down to the lot and they have like 12 of them sitting there.
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Sep 23, 2003 - 1:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hahaha yepp exactly, and you wanna know why there are so many V-6 mustangs with low miles sitting on used car lots? because they were used as Budget Rental cars lmao. -------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Sep 23, 2003 - 1:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol...thats so great
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Oct 27, 2003 - 11:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 15, '03 From Sperry, Oklahoma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Muscle v. import, I'm in the middle. You show me a modified 3000GT (which I hate to say I would take over a Supra) and I'll crap my pants for you. You show me a early 60's modle Chevy Nova with a blown 502, and I'll crap my pants once more. I love cars. Period. End of story. Thank you, have a nice day. That's it.
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Oct 27, 2003 - 11:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, it's not people like you that we have problems with. You have respect for both sides.
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Oct 28, 2003 - 12:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '03 From Knoxville,TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think idiots like that see gay hondas everywhere and then when they see a small import they instantly think....ricer!!!!
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Oct 28, 2003 - 12:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Oct 29, 2003 - 2:28 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Personally, I really love cars too. Not just performance... but looks... I think the looks of many imports are awesome... i love those curves (just like how i like them on my girlies). I personally hate the way a mustang LOOKS. The older mustangs i actually like... Iono.... The Mustang just seems very played out to me. Part of what lured me to my celica was how beautiful they can be. Seriously, reminded me of a supra. I havent been able to look at any domestic cars lately and be able to say, that car looks nice.
Iono, maybe i'm just rambling... -Ryan -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld
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Oct 29, 2003 - 2:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No, you're right, domestic car's styling are very boring compared to foreign.
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Oct 29, 2003 - 4:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Its all in how you were raised i suppose. Me, i look at the car regardless of what it is, but i definately prefer an import car to just about any domestic out there due to nicer styling and refinement.
But i think that anybody who is a car enthusiast should have respect for cars from any market.
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