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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
For now, I'm keeping my Celica as a daily driver and RX7 as performance. The ongoing question I get asked when driving my Celica though...."Is it fast?"...
How do you define fast? Will it beat a stock Civic...sure. Will beat any slightly modded Civic...yeah most likely. Well, then you ask...what about a turbo'd car...does it keep up? This is the question I have trouble answering and here is why. A few weeks ago, I lost 50 bucks to a kid in a 93 Talon TSI. I actually had him, i'm an auto his being a turbo manual, until he hit third and he beat me by three car lengths. I then race a 96 Talon TSI, with an automatic...and win by a bumper. I'm very confused on what to answer to this question, so....my question to this board is...what do you say when you're asked "Is that car fast?" Personally, I say that it's fast enough, but what do you guys say? Obviously, if you have boost...this question doesn't apply to you because your Celi is another category...but to those of you with N/A Celi's...what do you answer? Thanks for your help in this ongoing controversial question. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 9, '02 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I usually answer no, but say it isn't slow either.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 14, '03 From Knoxville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I always pull the "It looks good from behind and up front doesn't it? Well then thats all that matters..."
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Apr 11, '03 From Australia, Newcastle Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I got a similar problem with my 300ZX TT Vrs the Stock Celica.
As far as speed goes:- the Z takes it out all over the Celica but I am very wary of the speeding tickets too. So I decided I would sell my Celica, then my younger brother smashed my mums car, so now mum drives my Celica and I drive my Z, and I won't let my younger brother near my two cars, (before and after the accident). But then for top speed:- an older guy at work was saying when he was young he was doing up cars and so on, but after the wife and kids came it was all over. Also no matter how fast the car was, he got use to the car and wanted another with more speed. So in conclusion "is the car fast" is not an option, it is whether it gets you from A to B, (without a speeding ticket). |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I just tell people yeah... I don't care what people say. I personally think my car is quick... I'm used to my old 5gc with a 1.6 litre
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
I say that it's not fast, but I can take old school V-6 mustangs.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i used to say its fast for what it was, a 105 hp car.
now i just let the BOV do the talking. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '02 From Sydney, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
If someone asks me if its fast I just flat out say no, because its not fast. There are too many modded R32's R33's S14's and s15's and STI's running around my city. The are probably the bench mark to being "fast" around here.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Exactly why I say mine is. We have an udder lack of fast cars and a supremecy of Honda's. Honda defines fast for here, so I can say that ![]() -------------------- i am awesome
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i used to say "not yet", but now i just say if you buy it you can find out
-------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Around here we have the old school camaros and stangs...
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 2, '02 From Gainesville, GA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
funny, i must be growing out of the need for speed stage....
as long as it can pull and pass what be needed to pass, its fine by me! |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 26, '02 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
yeah you can beat most civics. dont try against integs though you will lose... unless you have a gt or something i have an st
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
haha need for speed was classic, a little before i got really into cars though... NFS:HotPersuit (the first one) was the first from that series in my collection -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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those games are SOOOO easy to beat now that i have been playing the gran turismo series for a while.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
"Looks fast"
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 1, '02 From Tijuana Mexico Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
even if its not that fast most people think our cars are, just for the image the car does by it self
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Troo... Troo... -------------------- i am awesome
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
I've been saying "Not yet" over the summer, and when I come home to get my car in two weeks, it should be fairly fast.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
What is the estimated HP off the flywheel on that motor? (I know I could do my research... I'm lazy) -------------------- i am awesome
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) ![]() |
I wouldnt say that a GT is slow....it has some serious pep to it, and can keep me entertained, but out of trouble with the law at the same time.
A friend of mine rode in my car for the first time the other day, and i was just kinda crusing along like i usually do. He was telling me how it felt like we were going alot more than 45-50 cuz the way the celica has really direct feeling acceleration, which ive always thought was very true. So i made a turn on to his road which was a big wide road going to a development area, and i hit it pretty hard to his encouragement.....i was kinda suprised, cuz the 5s can dish it out when you really want it to. ![]() Now add boost to that equation.....mmmmm ![]() -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Yeah i'd have to agree GT's are pretty quick, but I wouldent call them fast. I've supprised quite a few people in my town already who have underestimated its potential. I stomped all over my best friend and his 95 eclipse GS, but I know better than to test my car's skills against a Prelude...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 27, '02 From Sleep in Warren chill in clinton twp, works/school in detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
my friends EX(i think its EX teh one wid vtec) is faster than my ST oh well
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '03 From West Chester Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
its not fast....its quick...and unlike other cars, we have torque
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
117 Ft Lbs... stop the presses this thing is a beast... still can bearly chirp 17s on dry pavement. lol -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
hey, not all of us can upgrade to modded mr2-t's lol, j/k you get that car yet? -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I got an auto GT 97, with all basic bolt up, the best mos is suprisingly the Venom 400 which is often bashed. I love how from a start w/the Venom the cars RPM's just fly through the roof from 1st to 2nd. But when I turn it off its all sorts of sluggish.
I know the Celicas are not fast but there VERY enjoyable and fun as hell to drive, speed shouldnt be everything, style, elegance, handling and yes..power. I believe the celica incorporates all of these flawlessly, but thats me. |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
It seams to me that something beside hp and torque, because, even though my friends 240sx has more hp and torque than me, I always beat his ass at racing and handling.
when someone asks me if the car is fast I say "its quick, but bing fast is not all that matters, you need styling, handling, reliability and a certain feel" then they usually say, "soooooooo, is it fast?" to which I reply "**** off" oh btw, wOOt 600 posts -------------------- [img]http://photos-081.facebook.com/n6/081/n15913038_30266081_3342.jpg[/img]
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
hehe not meaning it to be a huge dis, but like this whole topic is about, the car really isnt "fast", its definatly quick" but its quick in different areas than streightline. and nope, celica isnt sold yet ![]() ![]() -------------------- ![]() Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
well, its not like any of us are bitter or anything, I'd rather have the mr2 turbo, just because its a sweet looking ride. But that dosent mean that I dont like the celica.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 6, '03 From Fairbanks AK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
what i find that really shoots the celi's in the foot is the hp to weight ratio. i don't consider mine to be anywhere near fast. however out of the cars i've owned it is by far the most fun to drive, throw some 17X7's and some decent rubber and have a ball!!! and boy is she purdy! BTW the other cars i've owned are '93 integra, '95 integra and a '96 civic coupe.
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