Roll Cage, can it be done? Options

[6G96GT]

guys I was in a bad accident with a friend of mine a few weeks ago and am still recovering. He had a small subaru and it got killed being t-boned only at 30 mph. so I want to install more protection for myself in my 96 celica gt by adding reinforcement cage inside. can it be done???

[stetsonaw]

the scooby got killed, but he's ok right?

[95st-celica]

i am looking to do the same thing eventually...unless you get one custom made i dont know of any other places that sell rollcages for our cars but this place:

http://www.rhdjapan.com/category-low/TOYOT...ca/Handling/4/3

write them and see if they will fit in a Left-hand drive celica...im pretty sure the 4,5,and 6 points will but im not 100%....they are a little pricey but then again they should be direct bolt in and if it saves a life then its well worth it....some people are going to tell you 0oo0 dont do that its not worth it or its going to look stupid but i could care less...good luck and i hope you and your buddy feel better...sucks for the subie though

[808celica]

^^nice site i see things i want

[95st-celica]

awesome site...things are a little pricey but then again its alllll quality and its comin from overseas...they have a lot of good **** though and i plan on buyin a lot of things from them

[lagos]

Roll cages are only meant to protect you in case of a roll over.
They wont make your car any more resistant to impact, or protect you any better on the street.

[95st-celica]

Roll cages are only meant to protect you in case of a roll over.
They wont make your car any more resistant to impact, or protect you any better on the street.

this is true...it will help sturdy up the chasis...but its not going to do anything unless you roll your car...i take turns a little fast at times but after what happened to my friend driving STRAIGHT in an s2000...im seriously considering one

[lagos]

You need full racing seats, harness and a helmet with a roll cage. If you get into an accident with a roll cage, chances are you'll get more messed up from hitting the cage during impact.

[808celica]

You need full racing seats, harness and a helmet with a roll cage. If you get into an accident with a roll cage, chances are you'll get more messed up from hitting the cage during impact.

true true......head meets roll cage = x___x

[Kwanza26]

Avoid accidents. That usually works better.

[95st-celica]

Avoid accidents. That usually works better.

easier said then done sometimes...thats why the call them accidents and not intentionals

This post has been edited by 95st-celica: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:38 PM

[6G96GT]

the scooby got killed, but he's ok right?

he's ok

i am looking to do the same thing eventually...unless you get one custom made i dont know of any other places that sell rollcages for our cars but this place:

http://www.rhdjapan.com/category-low/TOYOT...ca/Handling/4/3

write them and see if they will fit in a Left-hand drive celica...im pretty sure the 4,5,and 6 points will but im not 100%....they are a little pricey but then again they should be direct bolt in and if it saves a life then its well worth it....some people are going to tell you 0oo0 dont do that its not worth it or its going to look stupid but i could care less...good luck and i hope you and your buddy feel better...sucks for the subie though

I will check about about the left handed side too. thanks for the info man. I also don't care what anyone says either, I spent 5 weeks in the hospital and never want to do that again.

[6G96GT]

Avoid accidents. That usually works better.

easier said then done sometimes...thats why the call them accidents and not intentionals

true, guys I was T-boned by an F150 and my door caved in and bent over my right side and then my seat (i was the passenger) got laid all the way back. It was bad, I saw pics of the car but fortunately I really don't remember getting hit by the truck. I got a concusion and pretty much was passed out. I never saw it coming.

So, if the roll cage won't help side impacts, what possibly could? Any custom reinforcement welding you think???

[Tigawoods]

you must also think about added weight

no cage = go kart

cage = boat

that is if you make it with very sturdy material

[playr158]

I will check about about the left handed side too. thanks for the info man. I also don't care what anyone says either, I spent 5 weeks in the hospital and never want to do that again.

a roll cage in a street car will land you up in a hospital for longer than 5 weeks, when you crack your skull on the bars.

and Yes a FULL roll cage can help in side impacts. But this is NOT designed for the street and is NOT to be implemented on a street car.

Roll cages belong in racecars and not street cars.

[presure2]

I will check about about the left handed side too. thanks for the info man. I also don't care what anyone says either, I spent 5 weeks in the hospital and never want to do that again.

a roll cage in a street car will land you up in a hospital for longer than 5 weeks, when you crack your skull on the bars.

and Yes a FULL roll cage can help in side impacts. But this is NOT designed for the street and is NOT to be implemented on a street car.

Roll cages belong in racecars and not street cars.

X infinity
not to mention any passangers (as you were)

[6G96GT]

So, if no roll cage, what can I do about beefing up my sides of the celi for better side impact accidents? Can welding some in-door steel strips help?

[95st-celica]

true...true....i was thinking more on the rolling part of it....2 very close friends of mine died last christmas in a s2000....had the roll cage come sooner it might have saved their lives....he had it lowerd and it bottomed out going through an intersection...when it came back up the ass end got loose and he spun and rolled clipping a tree and completely riping the whole top of the car off....for an average accident though i could see why it would be more harm then help

[lagos]

true...true....i was thinking more on the rolling part of it....2 very close friends of mine died last christmas in a s2000....had the roll cage come sooner it might have saved their lives....he had it lowerd and it bottomed out going through an intersection...when it came back up the ass end got loose and he spun and rolled clipping a tree and completely riping the whole top of the car off....for an average accident though i could see why it would be more harm then help

Honestly, the biggest thing you can do is not speed on the Blvd. That is such a terribly designed street that has claimed MANY lives over the years. Yet people still street race up and down it and drive like maniacs from light to light.

For a cage to work, you need to be strapped in so that you don't slide out as the car rolls and you need to wear a helmet at all times. Totally pointless on the street since most people find it too much of a hassle to even put on their seat belt.

Wear your seat belt, dont ditch your air bag for a cool jdm steering wheel, and drive safer. Those 3 things will do more then some roll cage in the event of an accident.

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 2, 2008 - 10:09 PM

[easternpiro1]

x2 now that i think about it i see why roll cages are not legal in maryland (according to a friend of mine the logic was roll cage=racing therefore illega)l, but bump that! i didnt think about crackin your skull!

[playr158]

So, if no roll cage, what can I do about beefing up my sides of the celi for better side impact accidents? Can welding some in-door steel strips help?

no, not for the street

welding in various pieces or what not can screw up OEM design of crumple zones and crash safety features, thus resulting in further damages

like we've said...wearing your seat belt, and having airbags still in the car is the safest and best protection on the street.

This post has been edited by playr158: Sep 3, 2008 - 6:56 AM

[6G96GT]

well, i guess that settles it. no cage for me. i still have my airbags so that's good, thanks for all the input guys

[D-Man]

I know that airbags are safty equip... but in my experience, they deploy several seconds too late but now i drive a Toyota, not an old Ford

I wanted to ask if 4/5 point belts (Correctly installed, With the proper equipment) Would help? (lol, i've got a convertable, if i flip i'm done )

thats why the call them accidents and not intentionals

LOL!!

This post has been edited by D-Man: Sep 3, 2008 - 9:43 AM

[playr158]

I know that airbags are safty equip... but in my experience, they deploy several seconds too late but now i drive a Toyota, not an old Ford

I wanted to ask if 4/5 point belts (Correctly installed, With the proper equipment) Would help? (lol, i've got a convertable, if i flip i'm done )

couple seconds late?!
in most accidents your car stops in less than a second. air bags deploy and contract with in that second.
you woulda wrecked/come to a stop and then been wacked in the face after the entire event was over?
but as you said it was a FORD = Fix Our Retarded Design :dunno:

4 point harness is doable with a harness bar, and certified belts.
All about the correct setup

[D-Man]

I know that airbags are safty equip... but in my experience, they deploy several seconds too late but now i drive a Toyota, not an old Ford

I wanted to ask if 4/5 point belts (Correctly installed, With the proper equipment) Would help? (lol, i've got a convertible, if i flip i'm done )

couple seconds late?!
in most accidents your car stops in less than a second. air bags deploy and contract with in that second.
you woulda wrecked/come to a stop and then been whacked in the face after the entire event was over?
but as you said it was a FORD = Fix Our Retarded Design :dunno:

4 point harness is doable with a harness bar, and certified belts.
All about the correct setup

Yup. Actually i was hit, stopped, and I was starting the process of driving off of the street (it was a little back road, i was just moving towards the ditch really) when it deployed.
BAM!!
I couldn't move my head for 3 weeks; not to mention the excruciating pain i was in, and working in a fcuking jack'N'box as an assistant manager was not helping... Plus that white powder crap had me itching for a few days as well...

So (correctly done) the 4 point harness would indeed be a nice safty upgrade on a street car? (provided that it is in conjunction with local and state laws, and i suppose you'd need the seats too)

[playr158]

dang talk about owned!

[D-Man]

Okay, this old lady put her hood to my drivers side rear wheel at about 45 MPH, i spun arround about 2 full 360's before hitting a brick wall. I was ajared into the street so i started to drive into the grass off the road when the air bag deployed.

Now:

Owned is the part where this 90 year old lady (who had hit ME mind you) ran down the street, stopped, turned around ran back to her car, Hoped in a burnt out. Meanwhile i'm fighting with a air bag and choking over this freak anthrax or w/e is in that air bag and falling out of the car with a busted nose and lip, bleading all over the place, coughing and spitting blood and white crap... and that old lady fcuking RAN!! meanwhile i look like one of the Olson twins with white powder all over my face with a bloody nose, dizzy and disorentated wandering arround in the street trying to figure out what the hell just happened...

That sir, is the definition of OWNED...

[playr158]

Olsen twins

thats just awesome