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post Sep 8, 2008 - 5:33 PM
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k i know ive made a thread on a car under 10grand
but i totally forgot about my budget
as before in my thread i was looking for 300zx tt, and sc400/300s
now i find that 300zx's break down and that sc400/300s get avg 15mpg....
and compared to our celicas with avg 30mpg they suck.
i have a college student budget and am feelin like crap because i cant make up my mind
what do u guys recommend?
i really want power in my next car as my 1st was the celi
but at the same time reliable and decent gas mileage
thanks!

let me know if i should get a new celica and do mods to it or just go for the sc300

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post Sep 8, 2008 - 7:17 PM
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hmmm
Fuel economical sports car (sports compact). Damn, I can't think of many bases you've already covered. You've had a Celica.

For front wheel drive I say Integras are economical, Toyota Corolla GT-S are aswell. But for something sporty you really are looking at a bit higher displacement (or loads of cash)

I think the answer for this, sadly, is the 240SX again... or the Subaru 2.5RS kindasad.gif (I think these were my suggestions last thread wink.gif )

Oh and Mazda Miatas. Aside from being a girly car(I have no clue how they got this reputation but everyone I know says its a girly car) they are insanely lightweight and get great economy, plus you could always drop a 13B in it down the line. They serve no realistic function if you carry a lot of stuff in your car though.

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post Sep 8, 2008 - 7:27 PM
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v6 mustang, camaro, or firebird
240sx
miata
integra
but to get more power you have to sacrifice some mpg


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post Sep 8, 2008 - 8:18 PM
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American sports cars need to be V8.
Sports cars need to be RWD.


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post Sep 8, 2008 - 10:47 PM
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hahaha sports cars don't have to be RWD but if they aren't they have to be technologically advanced or have comparable amounts of power or weigh very little.


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post Sep 8, 2008 - 11:00 PM
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Please name a sports car in FWD.


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post Sep 8, 2008 - 11:07 PM
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dammn. miata for me-my friend said hell never ride in it if i get it lol
so no miata
**** i might sacrifice mpg then for the sc300 stick so ill put it in highest gear and cruise.
im an indecisive little bitch =[
post Sep 8, 2008 - 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 8, 2008 - 11:00 PM) *
Please name a sports car in FWD.



integra type r


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post Sep 8, 2008 - 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (spolski07 @ Sep 9, 2008 - 12:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 8, 2008 - 11:00 PM) *
Please name a sports car in FWD.



integra type r


toyota celica?...dude... a sports car does not have to be rwd....its a sporty, car....i believe the celica is a sporty compact car...therefore that makes it a sports car....i can understad the rwd>Fwd but it makes no difference weather the car is a sports car or not.


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post Sep 9, 2008 - 12:27 AM
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surprised i haven't seen mr2, del sol or sentra V spec in here yet...


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post Sep 9, 2008 - 3:57 AM
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i agree with supersprynt.. a real sports car is RWD.. but a sporty car can be either RWD or FWD.


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post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:32 AM
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i disagree that to be a sports car it has to be RWD. the Integra Type R is the perfect example of a FWD sports car (from the factory at that)
good power and great handling




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post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:48 AM
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Celica nor Integra are not sports cars. They maybe trying, but they aren't real sports cars.

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A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile. The exact definition varies, [1] but generally it is used to refer to a low to ground, light weight vehicle with a powerful engine. Most vehicles referred to as sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car

When you have a 4cyl economy motor and FWD you are not a sports car. ITR has no torque, you'll have to get high up in the RPMs to see any power.

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:49 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 8, 2008 - 9:18 PM) *
American sports cars need to be V8.
Sports cars need to be RWD.



Noob...you're talking about a SUPER CAR. Sports cars handle better than most other cars in acceleration,handling,and comfort...hate to break it to you but a Maxima is a sports car and so definitely is my 00 GT-S...says so on my insurance! rofl


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post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:52 AM
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Did you just call a Maxima a sports car and also call me a noob in the same sentence?

Epic Fail.

A Mustang is NO supercar, a Camaro is NO supercar, 350z is not a supercar... Supercars are Ferrari Enzos, SL65 AMG Blacks, Lambo, NSXs etc. Supercars are a smaller subset of sports car.

You guys don't have to agree with me I didnt make up the rules. Lots of you just want your Celicas to be sports cars and I'm sorry to tell you, they're not. You could argue the ST205 is, but that's it.

I wouldn't even call an Evo or STI a sports car.

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 8:44 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 9, 2008 - 12:00 AM) *
I wouldn't even call an Evo or STI a sports car.


epic grocery getter?


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post Sep 9, 2008 - 8:45 AM
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They blur the lines with their power, but they're 4 doors, its a conundrum.

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 9:03 AM
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yeah, so a stupidly overpowered grocery getter.

if you really want this to be a legit debate, give 3 examples of what you would consider "sports cars" (but dont fall under the category of "super cars")

edit: actually lets take it to another thread. ( i believe this is a legitimate discussion topic for OT, dont wanna jack the guys thread)

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 9:09 AM
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Nissan 350Z
Toyota Supra
Chevy Camaro
Chevy Corvette
BMW M3
Mazda RX8
Honda S2000

Sorry for thread jacking. frown.gif

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 9:13 AM
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QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Sep 8, 2008 - 7:27 PM) *
v6 mustang, camaro, or firebird
240sx
miata
integra
but to get more power you have to sacrifice some mpg

Mustang?
cwm13.gif Why?

QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Sep 9, 2008 - 7:52 AM) *
Did you just call a Maxima a sports car and also call me a noob in the same sentence?

laugh.gif

rolleyes.gif a Maxima? Sports? laugh.gif

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edit nvm.
dont wanta post jack

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (spolski07 @ Sep 9, 2008 - 3:33 PM) *
edit nvm.
dont wanta post jack


u guys already did =p
unless u wanna tell me whats a good reliable economical sports car
and then thread jack it
i dont mind
post Sep 9, 2008 - 11:16 PM
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sports car and economical do not belong in the same sentence. May someone please smack you for such a request.

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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 10, 2008 - 12:16 AM) *
sports car and economical do not belong in the same sentence. May someone please smack you for such a request.


Probably thinking more of a Sport-compact and not an actual sports car.

However, for the debate there are some economical sports cars. Lotus Exige being one, Lotus Elise being two biggrin.gif. Any lotus with the 2ZZ-GE should get better mileage than the 7G celica.(Theoretically... does anyone have a mpg comparison?)

I'm guessing you don't want to pay that much though do you?


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post Sep 10, 2008 - 9:39 AM
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Sports Compact = "Economical Sports Car"

Sport cars are anything but economical, but economical cars are FAR from sports... You're trying to mix a Panoz Roadster and a SMART. laugh.gif

You're talking about This + This tongue.gif

EDIT: Roadster Replacing the "Fuel Efficient" Lotus Elise. smile.gif

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QUOTE (D-Man @ Sep 10, 2008 - 10:39 AM) *
Sports Compact = "Economical Sports Car"

Sport cars are anything but economical, but economical cars are FAR from sports... You're trying to mix a Lotus Elise and a SMART. laugh.gif You're talking about This + This tongue.gif



I dunno the lotus IS pretty economical. (for fuel economy that is, good luck shelling $40,000 - $100,000 depending on the model) IMO you should have done larger extremes. Like Panoz Roadster and Tata Nano. biggrin.gif


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I was just going off the top of my head... Feel free to extreamiate my example biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (D-Man @ Sep 10, 2008 - 11:42 AM) *
I was just going off the top of my head... Feel free to extreamiate my example biggrin.gif


Its actually kind of tough to make an extreme comparison without venturing into muscle or supercar territory :'(
I'll stick with the Panoz roadster. You can't go wrong with a V8 powered 2 seat roadster as being both uneconomical and impractical.. especially when it had the 302. biggrin.gif

I still would want one though kindasad.gif


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gsxr + smart car...

low weight, minimal cost, fuel efficient 14,000rpm monster
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 10, 2008 - 12:25 PM) *
gsxr + smart car...

low weight, minimal cost, fuel efficient 14,000rpm monster


Hahaha I wonder if you could retrofit a motorcycle engine into a Tata Nano or Smart Car.

That would be intense.


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> post Today, 05:05 PM
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> Hahaha I wonder if you could retrofit a motorcycle engine into a Tata Nano or Smart Car.

It has been done the cars have been available outside the US for a While.
Search Youtube for some videos.

> That would be intense.

Yes it was.

IMHO a sports car is any car you can take to the track on the week ends and have fun.

If it has 4 doors, the kids can come along and watch while Mom or Dad race. biggrin.gif
Even a turbo'd minivan would do ok at a drag strip ? Not a canyon carver though. laugh.gif

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QUOTE (Taskbot @ Sep 10, 2008 - 5:05 PM) *
QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 10, 2008 - 12:25 PM) *
gsxr + smart car...

low weight, minimal cost, fuel efficient 14,000rpm monster


Hahaha I wonder if you could retrofit a motorcycle engine into a Tata Nano or Smart Car.

That would be intense.


GOOGLE SEARCH!

they already have made them...
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Cheap sport car? REAL economic sports car?

Miata.


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..moved

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Damn it.. it has to be so technical, so what is it? Economical sport-wannabe-car? Good pricing sporty looking car? Or just whatever compact car with ground effect body work? lol

Are you also looking into... maybe financing a car? Cuz I really really like the new Audi A1, and the A3.


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