awd rhd conversion complete, shes back on!!!!! Options

[pipes]

hey guys im crazy excited..... my car is awd all done i will post pics 2 morrow after work while im putting the interior back in so for the record i have a rhd awd celica any question ask away.....




this is the rear end


where it goes into the pumkin sorry about the flash


the driveshaft leading to the front


drisheshft leading to the rear


rear cradle and you can see the hole where the old fuel pump door was


another rear cradle shot

tomorrow pic while there light and while im running the rear harness

This post has been edited by pipes: Aug 22, 2010 - 4:17 PM

[x_itchy_b_x]

boston? I'm like 30 mins away. i wanna check it out! sounds mint.

[block]

damn you! wanna do mines in the future

[pipes]

boston? I'm like 30 mins away. i wanna check it out! sounds mint.

no problem..... i should be regestering the car on wendsday.....2morrow im running the rear harness to the brake light etc

[parriehunter]

Sweet. well done. i would not want to see the bill tho.

cant wait for the pics. how long did it take?

[pipes]

also guys please dont try to flame to death.....but like my post says i just finished it. so there have been no high speed driving yet lol.... this weekend im gonna get all the inside all together.. tomorrow you guys will see the drive shaft in place and in operation..

[_Jim_]

how bad could the bill be, he did all the work himself, and parts aren't that expensive

[pipes]

Sweet. well done. i would not want to see the bill tho.

cant wait for the pics. how long did it take?

in total not including the next 3-4 days of work 16 days

[_Jim_]

but a total would be nice to see

[pipes]

how bad could the bill be, he did all the work himself, and parts aren't that expensive

clip shipped to the docks around 5500.... plus buying coilovers 1450. the brakes 1200 and all the silly stuff 800... also buying a mint shell 1000 and the rims i think im still under 10gs barely

This post has been edited by pipes: Oct 8, 2008 - 7:56 PM

[_Jim_]

clip.....meaning front or rear clip?

[pipes]

clip.....meaning front or rear clip?

front and rear i got a car in 2 pallets front and rear

[_Jim_]

very nice

[pipes]

very nice

thanks man i honestly wish i had more time but between work and school theres no time for the swap... i hope you guys still have the RI meet... i was actually rushing trying to make that meet... i was gonna go there with gman cause he lives up the street from me and he has the other awd celi

[alltracman78]

Well Holy Sheeeite

You know who I am.

Congrats man, that was quick. Kenny would have loved to see that I bet.

We're probably not going to do the meet until spring [we do one every spring and fall].

This post has been edited by alltracman78: Oct 8, 2008 - 8:05 PM

[block]

can you make a promise? post pictures tomorrow for sure! dont be like other people "ill post pics tomorrow" and then post them weeks later. this is something we all are definitely anxious to see!

[pipes]

Well Holy Sheeeite

You know who I am.

Congrats man, that was quick. Kenny would have loved to see that I bet.

We're probably not going to do the meet until spring [we do one every spring and fall].

whoa whats up man? kenny was by the shop today actually.. when its all legal and stuff im gonna bring it by his shop everyone sees it before i put it away wich should be the 2nd week of november if evrything goes well

[alltracman78]

Really?

He still comes by? I guess he would.
I need to make it up to Braintree to visit him.

Shoot me a PM when you intend to show it to him, if I'm free I'll check it out too.
I couldn't hang around because I was on jury duty and had a short lunch.

[delusionz]

That's pretty cool man, what did this Celica start life as?

[GMan]

> Today, 08:27 PM
> From boston MA
> hey guys im crazy excited..... my car is awd all done

Congrats ! Glad it is done !

We'll have to get together to compare projects.

Regards;

[zero07]

Cant wait to see pics! Congrats!

[Dr_Tweak]

Why would you do a project like that, start a thread about it, and not bother to take 2 minutes to post up a single pic?

I'm not raising it yet, but I'm getting my BS flag out, just in case.

[GotToyota]

Sweet man! Post up pics soon so I can take a look at it.

-Matt

[pipes]

Why would you do a project like that, start a thread about it, and not bother to take 2 minutes to post up a single pic?

I'm not raising it yet, but I'm getting my BS flag out, just in case.

lol no prob man lol.... i have pics in another post that has my rhd done.. but im off to work now and i may skip clas to finish this stuff up

[playr158]

I'm gona wait to see if this thing goes straight

[pipes]

I'm gona wait to see if this thing goes straight

lol well you gonna be waiting till almost sunday..... i go to put the inside back in i jus couldnt wait to tell you guys about it lol

[playr158]

i'm patient

I hope it does go straight and holds up, you'll be a valuable asset to the community if it does.

[olaHalo]

awaiting pics

[bccentaur3]

Yeah.. I thought you were skipping class.

[GMan]

> Today, 01:42 AM
> Dr_Tweak
> From Savannah, GA
> Why would you do a project like that, start a thread about it, and not bother to take 2 minutes to post up a single pic?

Keeping people in suspense ?

> I'm not raising it yet, but I'm getting my BS flag out, just in case.

I don't blame you, many have talked about it. Few have started.

I Have seen the parts and the project progress.
Maybe I will stop by and snap a few pics myself.

Regards

[jcaron9gt4]

what part of Boston are you from? i'll have to come take a look when it's all set, if that wont be a problem with you!

[supershannon77]

Dont worry man I believe you I am sure pics will be up soon....If Alltracman is posting its gotta be true bc he is no bs....Congrats on getting it done I hope it drives perfect

[tomazws]

It should be "tomorrow" and hopefully "after work" now... pics! pics! pics! pics!

[pipes]

thanks guys sheesh pic in less than 5 i went to school sorry... and i was jus out there trying to run the harness

[pipes]

pics up

This post has been edited by pipes: Oct 9, 2008 - 6:51 PM

[supershannon77]

umm..I cant see them...i dont no y

[pipes]

umm..I cant see them...i dont no y

ok hold up heres the links

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00041.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00040.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00039.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00038.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00037.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/K_pipes/IMG00036.jpg

[dustin15brown]

BS!!! Hahaha I am ready to see a lottttt of pics I'm excited

[pipes]

BS!!! Hahaha I am ready to see a lottttt of pics I'm excited

dont call bs please.... but its dark and i have a camera phone my friend who helped has a digi cam so i can take better pictures

This post has been edited by pipes: Oct 9, 2008 - 7:20 PM

[zero07]

Feel weak.....need more.

[supershannon77]

cool...at least we can get an idea that should make some of us happy....I'm really excited for you

[pipes]

cool...at least we can get an idea that should make some of us happy....I'm really excited for you

thanx dewd im excited to just not enough hours in the day so i can finis inside.. but yea hard work jus needs paint on the outside now

[dustin15brown]

BS!!! Hahaha I am ready to see a lottttt of pics I'm excited

dont call bs please.... but its dark and i have a camera phone my friend who helped has a digi cam so i can take better pictures

i was joking...kinda

[pipes]

lol you guys better get ready....... that guy that did it lol... my partner in crime hes making an account

[devilsden97]

im not going to get excited till someone gets some camera skills...

[pipes]

im not going to get excited till someone gets some camera skills...

I don't get you guys....I have no reason to lie but noone can be patient... me and my friend have worked hard to make this car possible..... me and my friend will post better pictures soon...

[96bluevert]

lol...It's just that it's hard to see those pictures b/c they aren't very good (obviously b/c it was a camera phone you used). Can't wait to see the good pictures (I hope good ), it's not everyday we get to see AWD set ups on this site.

[shortydragon]

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

[x_itchy_b_x]

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

LOL its AWD...........

[CaliJeff]

holy bejesus

[dustin15brown]

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

LOL its AWD...........

gotta love the quad posting.... and yes, a burnout vid! hahahahahaha

[playr158]

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

i bet everyone will stop raising the BS flag if u upload a vid of a burnout lol

LOL its AWD...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IztgcOi24

[Dr_Tweak]

Well, there's definitely a driveshaft where the gastank used to be, that's for sure

-Doc

[presure2]

Well, there's definitely a driveshaft where the gastank used to be, that's for sure

-Doc

agreed.


i'd love to see someone get some good DETAILED pics of whats done.

ever make your way south of boston?
i'd love to take a look at the work and get an idea of what exactly is involved.

[99GT]

They just want better pictures haha thats all... and yes no patients for awd conversion threads. They usually come and start a thread and then never return hahah....

[95st-celica]

thats no awd burnout....this is!!...fast forward to about 145

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQUCUGwX5I

[RickJamesBish]

So what was this before, an ST or GT? And what engine is being swapped in? And what kind of numbers are you expecting? Details details details!

[GMan]

Teaser pics.
It is "Finished " in the sense that it is on the ground with an AWD drive train and an ST205 engine installed.
Once the gas tank and other stuff is installed, it wil be a runner I am Sure.

Stock gas tank to go in.


ST205 engine in.


RHD Interior


Pass side of the Rear frame


Front of the driver's side rear frame, mounted.


More pics later ? Rather hard right Now with the car on the ground.
If I put on some ragged clothes and get down and dirty...

Best of luck to completion.

Regards;

[95st-celica]

thats awesome man....glad its commin together for you...your gonna enjoy it...about how much did it cost for the whole set up shipped to you?...im considering doing this in a couple of years aswell.....good luck with the car man...looks good

[pipes]

thats awesome man....glad its commin together for you...your gonna enjoy it...about how much did it cost for the whole set up shipped to you?...im considering doing this in a couple of years aswell.....good luck with the car man...looks good

under 10gs.. me and my buddy put it together.... i slacked in the end though lol....my buddy came up with the idea for the rear because my idea wasnt the greatest.... but 10g's no labor gets you everything i got

[GMan]

> Today, 06:06 PM
> 95st-celica
> '95 ST Hatchback
> From Philly
> thats no awd burnout....this is!!...fast forward to about 145
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQUCUGwX5I

Damn, that is an Awesome burn out !

But there are celica AWD burn outs too !

snow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avzd4qMk-ro

ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSjLUuh_N4...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMUYzArc1uc...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQQoT6EFfsk...feature=related

5th gen Celica CS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0OZm-r3jU...feature=related

$ pipes
$ Posted Today, 07:45 PM
$ under 10gs.. me and my buddy put it together....
$ but 10g's no labor gets you everything i got

Labor is the Killer. Sweat or $$$.
Don't try any burnouts for a while. They are Murder on clutches.

Regards;
----------------------------

[Random_Stranger]

Hey congrats on completing the project. I only read the beginning.

[97lestyousay]

> Today, 06:06 PM
> 95st-celica
> '95 ST Hatchback
> From Philly
> thats no awd burnout....this is!!...fast forward to about 145
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQUCUGwX5I

Damn, that is an Awesome burn out !

But there are celica AWD burn outs too !

snow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avzd4qMk-ro

ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSjLUuh_N4...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMUYzArc1uc...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQQoT6EFfsk...feature=related

5th gen Celica CS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0OZm-r3jU...feature=related

$ pipes
$ Posted Today, 07:45 PM
$ under 10gs.. me and my buddy put it together....
$ but 10g's no labor gets you everything i got

Labor is the Killer. Sweat or $$$.
Don't try any burnouts for a while. They are Murder on clutches.

Regards;
----------------------------

hey can you quote like everyone else? Half of your posts I don't even bother to read because
of all the>>><<< $$## crap, and whos conversion is it yours or pipes?

Could the original poster post some pics that someone can actually see something. I was under the impression the rear
clip from a 205 was used but the pics above look like a modifed 202 subframe with a bunch
of reinforcement. The pics on the first page are pretty much useless, it says excuse the flash but then you say they are cell phone pics.
I don't own a picture phone, but I didn't think they had a flash?
I can't believe anyone would do a project this big and not take any pics of the progress. My BS flag is being unfurled as of now.

[dustin15brown]

a lot of camera phones have flash.... come on randy, get with the times!!!

[Daftboy]

my camera on my phone has flash, auto focus, and 2x optical zoom, iso settings...lol and its 5 MP

This post has been edited by Daftboy: Oct 12, 2008 - 12:05 AM

[lubu]

Im not raising any flag but comeon, AWD conversion and you cant take any pic during the process??

[97lestyousay]

a lot of camera phones have flash.... come on randy, get with the times!!!

Like I said I don't own a camera phone. I have a couple digital cameras so I never saw the need.

[Nial]

Wow...thats some project to undertake....100% for effort.....but unfortunately only 10% for result...no offense or anything but that looks like the most dangerous set up I have ever seen, I hope your not going to take it on the road like that. Knowing how much force goes through the rear end of a GT4 its likely to rip itself to pieces very quickly

[pipes]

This will be my last post on this subject until the car is complete I jus wanted to share the progress.... 1 the pictures by gman are of my car he came by...... 2 the floor pieces are of a gt-4 that's how we fitted the gas tank etc...... 3 as har as it holding up when you have the floor of the gt-4 and the floor of the st204 there isn't much differnce the part that holds a stock gt-4 cradle is held in by 6 spot welds and glue... also the frame rails are narrower.....4 the reason there aren't many pics is because we were concerneed about finishing the project than making a play by play account....somebody said it can't be done we just wanted to see if it was true.. thanks for all the support sorry for the crappy pics any of the boston members are more than welcome to come take a look.... any questions shoot me a pm...... I'm off to finish this beast

This post has been edited by pipes: Oct 12, 2008 - 10:56 AM

[pipes]

well had a couple issues with the car not starting... but that was my dummy mistake.... well guys the car starts and drives.... me and my friend have done it.... lol interior still not in yet.... but gman dropped off some pieces that i burned up by accident sooo let the goodtimes roll more info through out the week and as long as im online.... it was a fun build to say the least

[supershannon77]

enjoy..and congrats.

[pipes]

enjoy..and congrats.

thanx hows your swap going? we should meet up spmetime when your in mass.... well not before my car get a wash and look purty though lol

[easternpiro1]

For the FIRST TIME EVER... I hearby claim this thread in the name of.....





sorry bro...
gotta see... its over a week later please make me put my foot in my mouth!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Oct 20, 2008 - 11:24 PM

[pipes]

For the FIRST TIME EVER... I hearby claim this thread in the name of.....





sorry bro...

lol cute

[Batman722]

did gman see the swap ?

[azian_advanced]

pipes, just wondering, did you only got the floor pan of the gt-four? or did you get the entire rear half of the car? if you got the entire rear half i have a couple of awd conversion pictures that might be of help in re-inforcing the rear end.

[pipes]

pipes, just wondering, did you only got the floor pan of the gt-four? or did you get the entire rear half of the car? if you got the entire rear half i have a couple of awd conversion pictures that might be of help in re-inforcing the rear end.

Yeah gman has seen it.... I call him to take pictures seeing as he has a real camera.... and yes whole rear clip pics would be cool

[99GT]

Teaser pics.
It is "Finished " in the sense that it is on the ground with an AWD drive train and an ST205 engine installed.
Once the gas tank and other stuff is installed, it wil be a runner I am Sure.

Stock gas tank to go in.


ST205 engine in.


RHD Interior


Pass side of the Rear frame


Front of the driver's side rear frame, mounted.


More pics later ? Rather hard right Now with the car on the ground.
If I put on some ragged clothes and get down and dirty...

Best of luck to completion.

Regards;

Gman posted up pics. So Gman probably saw it haha.

[DEATH]

I wish people would calm down in this thread - it's getting very close to completion. Imagine how you would feel if you're all hyped up about nearing completion of something so sought after and all anyone can do is talk trash and call BS. Another member has been over to see it and posted pics and the invitation has been given to stop by and see it.
The only thing I can say is some of those welds look not so good - others look very good. If it were me [and I've done a fair bit of structural welding in my time] I'd be going over every one of those and strengthen everything I could. I also assume you will be putting the car through a series of progressively more rigorise testing - we don't want the next update to be you dead [or other drivers] or the car mysteriously took a left all by itself and is now a pretzel [has happened with this very swap before].
Good luck

[pipes]

I wish people would calm down in this thread - it's getting very close to completion. Imagine how you would feel if you're all hyped up about nearing completion of something so sought after and all anyone can do is talk trash and call BS. Another member has been over to see it and posted pics and the invitation has been given to stop by and see it.
The only thing I can say is some of those welds look not so good - others look very good. If it were me [and I've done a fair bit of structural welding in my time] I'd be going over every one of those and strengthen everything I could. I also assume you will be putting the car through a series of progressively more rigorise testing - we don't want the next update to be you dead [or other drivers] or the car mysteriously took a left all by itself and is now a pretzel [has happened with this very swap before].
Good luck

Thanx death.... glad you understand...but can you point out the welds that you think are weak? And yes lots of testing will be going on to make sure....well if you can point those out so I can redo that would be awesome

[DEATH]

I don't have any way to draw on the pic itself but it should be really obvious from this pic which type of weld I'm talking about. The one to the left of the red bit there is really really bad. It appears you may have forgot to open your gas valve due to the cavities visible even in these pics. Also it appears that it was not burned in very well but I can't really tell from here. You'd be surprised the difference between the forces exerted on those welds now vs what they will be when the car is on the road. If it were me I'd be making it as strong as possible and screw the weight [You've already added tons of that so make it right IMO].
Not coming down on your work at all - just trying to make sure you and the car stay as safe as possible.

BTW - You have excellent taste in tires

This post has been edited by DEATH: Oct 21, 2008 - 11:03 AM

[Davis_2]

Well Man SERIOUS RESPECT to you I apologise in advance but i will be howding you with questions the whole time man. The reason for that is i have an ST which im planning to make awd and putting in a 3sgte engine instead of my little 7afe engine. I have a full 92 gt4 shell with the engine and all the shafts and that. First question did you change over the gear shifter after new engine or the stock work for you.

[DEATH]

I take it that shell is totalled or why would you do all that? Insurance scam LOL?

[Davis_2]

Yeah The shell is gone alright LOL would be wasting alot of time if not.

[presure2]

Well Man SERIOUS RESPECT to you I apologise in advance but i will be howding you with questions the whole time man. The reason for that is i have an ST which im planning to make awd and putting in a 3sgte engine instead of my little 7afe engine. I have a full 92 gt4 shell with the engine and all the shafts and that. First question did you change over the gear shifter after new engine or the stock work for you.

the 5th gen celica rear end is narrower by a few inches.
can you use the parts? prolly, but its gonna be narrower in the rear, than in the front, which i imagine will NOT be good for handling at all. lol
and if you dont know which shifter you would use, you need to stop dreaming about the AWD swap, and start learning about these cars.

[pipes]

Well Man SERIOUS RESPECT to you I apologise in advance but i will be howding you with questions the whole time man. The reason for that is i have an ST which im planning to make awd and putting in a 3sgte engine instead of my little 7afe engine. I have a full 92 gt4 shell with the engine and all the shafts and that. First question did you change over the gear shifter after new engine or the stock work for you.

the 5th gen celica rear end is narrower by a few inches.
can you use the parts? prolly, but its gonna be narrower in the rear, than in the front, which i imagine will NOT be good for handling at all. lol
and if you dont know which shifter you would use, you need to stop dreaming about the AWD swap, and start learning about these cars.

I agree with pressure....well almost... I believe the axles are what makes it shorter... its the same rear so st205 axles may make up the inches you need

[Davis_2]

the 5th gen celica rear end is narrower by a few inches.
can you use the parts? prolly, but its gonna be narrower in the rear, than in the front, which i imagine will NOT be good for handling at all. lol
and if you dont know which shifter you would use, you need to stop dreaming about the AWD swap, and start learning about these cars.
[/quote]

Thanks for the advice appricate that but have made measurments and look into this for over a year before starting it and the stock can be used but no harm in having other opinions on the topic from people that would have a little more experience on the topic.

[Davis_2]

Thats right pipes the shafts and rear dift will all work fine but you are right will have to get st205 axles to make up the difference which will have it all sorted.

[njccmd2002]

from the pic, do you have enough clearance, it does not look like it, you barely make that 4 by 4. Seems like the axles are pointing downward instead of upward. I am no expert, but maybe thats ok. I was just pointing out. Make sure you weld it right. but in any ways, great job done

[pipes]

from the pic, do you have enough clearance, it does not look like it, you barely make that 4 by 4. Seems like the axles are pointing downward instead of upward. I am no expert, but maybe thats ok. I was just pointing out. Make sure you weld it right. but in any ways, great job done

Depending on wich picture.....the crappy ones ore the good ones? Some pics were with the car in the air others with the car lowered

[97lestyousay]

Well apparently I was a bit blunt in my previous post, sorry to you and Gman
congrats on the swap and awd. I was under the impression the entire
205 rear was going to be used. I hope it works out for you.

[pipes]

Well apparently I was a bit blunt in my previous post, sorry to you and Gman
congrats on the swap and awd. I was under the impression the entire
205 rear was going to be used. I hope it works out for you.

Lol no biggie.... um it was used but we weren't going to cut into the whole car we used the spare tire section that wat the gastank could fit....we also use the floor for reinforcement.... but thanks for the support any question ask away... I'm leaving class now so messages will be forwarded to my phone.... yeah my phone has flash and internet lol

[GriffGirl]

My phone has GPS and Internet but no flash

Nice job, can't wait to see it all done!

[boosted95]

edit

This post has been edited by boosted95: Jan 28, 2009 - 11:17 AM

[celicast3sgte]

hes got aftermarket coilovers installed so im assuming he has it lowered quite a bit.. hence the little clearance under the car.

[playr158]

coilovers and reasonable lowering amount = \ _____ / look to control arms and axles...which is ok.
massive amounts of ground clearances is over rated...... if you can fit a key fob laying flat under your car .... being able to clear a 2x4

This post has been edited by playr158: Oct 22, 2008 - 2:15 PM

[pipes]

coilovers and reasonable lowering amount = \ _____ / look to control arms and axles...which is ok.
massive amounts of ground clearances is over rated...... if you can fit a key fob laying flat under your car .... being able to clear a 2x4

A key fob?? I'm not trying to rock crawl...... 2 credit cards flat now that's low

[DatGuyDatDidIt]

WoW thats amazing work...who did it and how much????

[playr158]

coilovers and reasonable lowering amount = \ _____ / look to control arms and axles...which is ok.
massive amounts of ground clearances is over rated...... if you can fit a key fob laying flat under your car .... being able to clear a 2x4

A key fob?? I'm not trying to rock crawl...... 2 credit cards flat now that's low

Key fob height (about 2" tall)
(my jetta was this low, all though this is not my car/picture)



(yes that is an OIL pan + tranny in the pic)

This post has been edited by playr158: Oct 23, 2008 - 6:34 PM

[DatGuyDatDidIt]

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jo...nt=MVI_0446.flv

This is Driving around Hyde Park, have you seen it??? GT4 and RHD....WoWzer'z

This post has been edited by DatGuyDatDidIt: Oct 23, 2008 - 7:20 PM