The black president?!, no Obama ain't the first one Options

[playr158]

Actually, Bi-Racial.... I dont view Obama as black, and this country would be better off if we just stopped putting everyone in only two categories: Black/White.

Would Obama get the label as a black man if he developed Vitiligo?

That being said... Time will tell what he can do for this country... I didnt vote for him, but lets see....


Ever since the nation first met Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, his race has been called into question more times than Michael Jackson's. Obama is clearly a black man, but is this really a breakthrough? Some blacks say Obama isn't "black enough," which seems ironic because for many blacks, former President Bill Clinton was "black enough." In 2001, Clinton was honored as the nation's "first black president" at the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Annual Awards Dinner in Washington, D.C.

Were there other "black" presidents? Some historians have reason to believe people don't really understand the genealogy of past U.S. Presidents. Research shows at least five U.S. presidents had black ancestors and Thomas Jefferson, the nation's third president, was considered the first black president, according to historian Leroy Vaughn, author of Black People and Their Place in World History.

Vaughn's research shows Jefferson was not the only former black U.S. president. Who were the others? Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. But why was this unknown? How were they elected president? All five of these presidents never acknowledged their black ancestry.

Jefferson, who served two terms between 1801 and 1809, was described as the "son of a half-breed Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto father," as stated in Vaughn's findings. Jefferson also was said to have destroyed all documentation attached to his mother, even going to extremes to seize letters written by his mother to other people.

President Andrew Jackson, the nation's seventh president, was in office between 1829 and 1837. Vaughn cites an article written in The Virginia Magazine of History that Jackson was the son of an Irish woman who married a black man. The magazine also stated that Jackson's oldest brother had been sold as a slave.

Lincoln, the nation's 16th president, served between 1861 and 1865. Lincoln was said to have been the illegitimate son of an African man, according to Leroy's findings. Lincoln had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed "Abraham Africanus the First" by his opponents.

President Warren Harding, the 29th president, in office between 1921 and 1923, apparently never denied his ancestry. According to Vaughn, William Chancellor, a professor of economics and politics at Wooster College in Ohio, wrote a book on the Harding family genealogy. Evidently, Harding had black ancestors between both sets of parents. Chancellor also said that Harding attended Iberia College, a school founded to educate fugitive slaves.
Coolidge, the nation's 30th president, served between 1923 and 1929 and supposedly was proud of his heritage. He claimed his mother was dark because of mixed Indian ancestry. Coolidge's mother's maiden name was "Moor" and in Europe the name "Moor" was given to all blacks just as "Negro" was used in America. It later was concluded that Coolidge was part black.
The only difference between Obama and these former presidents is that none of their family histories were fully acknowledged by others. Even though Obama is half-white, he strongly resembles his Kenyan father. And not only is Obama open about his ancestry, most people acknowledge him as a black man, which is why people will identify Obama, if elected, as the first black president of the United States.
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This post has been edited by playr158: Nov 6, 2008 - 9:06 AM

[D-Man]

Thank you for this playr.

[Supersprynt]

It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different.

Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 6, 2008 - 9:23 AM

[D-Man]

It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different.

Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary.

I think this is more so intended to be a "fun-fact" of sorts supersprynt. I agree with you that it shouldn't matter where a person comes from, or what their ancestry is. Farthermore, i also believe this is getting blown way out of proportion.

Perhaps we should all stop the political debates for a bit; and get back to what matters the most.

[JoKeRkId613]

well said ^

[Supersprynt]

Alright.

[D-Man]

Perhaps we should all stop the political debates for a bit; and get back to what matters the most.

Alright.

witch one should i use today?

[playr158]

the vibrating one > all

multipurpose tools FTW

[RUNNIN-LOW]

It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different.

Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary.

fine fine guys i will say that i will become the first asian president alright NOW that will be evolutionary!!! now done and over with with this political stuff..... we all fight together in wars, we all live among each other, there was ages in this world where bad things happen, but alot of good things has happen too..so now we have the first black president just wounder what we would be talking about if hillary cliton made it..same damn thing...but yeah ill be the first asian president and then thats when well have a hugh corn nuts eatin debate about it....

[D-Man]

the vibrating one > all

multipurpose tools FTW

It's not about where he came from. For a lot of stupid people it is only about the color of his skin. It doesn't really matter if there were previous presidents from interracial couples, they had white skin, and back then you could get away with lying a lot easier. This is different.

Think about it in terms of being gay. Has there been a gay president? Quite possibly. But was he elected to the office with voters knowing he was gay? No. Just because it's happened before doesn't recognize the fact that this was evolutionary.

fine fine guys i will say that i will become the first asian president alright NOW that will be evolutionary!!! now done and over with with this political stuff..... we all fight together in wars, we all live among each other, there was ages in this world where bad things happen, but alot of good things has happen too..so now we have the first black president just wounder what we would be talking about if hillary cliton made it..same damn thing...but yeah ill be the first asian president and then thats when well have a hugh corn nuts eatin debate about it....

Technicaly speaking... The Jews had it the worst. And that didn't stop me:




Ya'll like my pink hat?

This post has been edited by D-Man: Nov 6, 2008 - 10:35 AM

[lagos]

People really need to get over it already.
Gay is the new black in this country now.

[playr158]

People really need to get over it already.
Gay is the new black in this country now.

don't worry like any fad gay will go by the way side shortly...

[Supersprynt]

Atheist is the new gay.

[D-Man]

Atheist is the new gay.

then what is the new Atheist?

[Supersprynt]

If the day ever comes - transvestites? IDK

[CelicaST_CALI]

Ya'll like my pink hat?

are you ****ing kidding me

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Nov 6, 2008 - 12:00 PM

[D-Man]

are you ****ing kidding me

Yes i am. That's not really me.

[playr158]

are you ****ing kidding me

Yes i am. I'm not really smart

fixed

[D-Man]

are you ****ing kidding me

Yes i am. I'm not really smart

fixed

FAILURE playr. failure.

[GriffGirl]

People really need to get over it already.
Gay is the new black in this country now.

Wow, apparently I'm WAY out of the loop. Does this mean I have to come out all over again? It sucked enough the first time around, I don't wanna have to go through all that sh1t again, I'm just too old for it

[njccmd2002]

IBL?

[D-Man]

People really need to get over it already.
Gay is the new black in this country now.

Wow, apparently I'm WAY out of the loop. Does this mean I have to come out all over again? It sucked enough the first time around, I don't wanna have to go through all that sh1t again, I'm just too old for it

Anyone with this picture on their Myspace is TOO gay to go back in the closet just to hop out. Griff, you're too far gone. Apparently you're blacker than Obama (according to lagos' theory)

IBL = In Before Lock (as in before the tread is locked) You see me do it all the time, i just dont say anything.

This post has been edited by D-Man: Nov 6, 2008 - 12:50 PM

[njccmd2002]

ROTFL

[playr158]

LOL too gay to go back in the closet now thats funny ish.

[easternpiro1]

you guys are toomuch .... and griff, i think you will have to come back out the closet again.... dan (jaws4god) seemed to have the hots for you i think, until he somehow got the impression you werent into guys... i forgot how he came to his assumption, but i remember laughing REALLY REALLY HARD on the inside...

and plyr!! i always saw you as an incredibly intelligent guy, you have now SURPASSED my opinion! that was some great info! i knew about 2 of the presidents especially lincoln but wow.... im impressed. i havent heard anyone use the word "mulatto" in a while!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Nov 7, 2008 - 1:27 AM

[playr158]

yea griff likes girls.....and I quoted that
:rofl:

[D-Man]

yea griff likes girls.....and I quoted that
:rofl:

I DO TOO!!



This post has been edited by D-Man: Nov 7, 2008 - 8:43 AM

[easternpiro1]

yea griff likes girls.....and I quoted that
:rofl:

I DO TOO!!

you know, that reminds me of when i was at the obama rally the day before the election, i was asking a friend about her roommate, and she was like "i dont know matt, she likes boys and girls" and without thinking i go HELL YEAH! ME TOO!! but of course i didnt hear the boys part.... i just heard what i wanted to hear. she shot me a weird look (that i didnt notice because i was so wratpped up in thoughts about a menage e tois, and my frat brother's eyes got as big as cantelopes...

i had to clear the air for them...

[D-Man]

you know, that reminds me of when i was at the obama rally the day before the election, i was asking a friend about her roommate, and she was like "i dont know matt, she likes boys and girls" and without thinking i go HELL YEAH! ME TOO!! but of course i didnt hear the boys part.... i just heard what i wanted to hear. she shot me a weird look (that i didnt notice because i was so wratpped up in thoughts about a menage e tois, and my frat brother's eyes got as big as cantelopes...

i had to clear the air for them...

...awkward...

[DEATH]

Sure Matt - it's OK man this is fixing to be '09 - you don't have to hide in the closet anymore

[bizzerk]

That is an interesting article, but just curious what was the source of information.

This post has been edited by bizzerk: Nov 20, 2008 - 11:17 AM

[CelicaST_CALI]

GOOOD BYE G dubya!!!!!

[soulshadow]

So since I am neither black nor white and is asian, I would full under the Brown man Catergory right? The next president is asian or mexican and a white man becomes the president of china if it ever decides to go democratic.

[CelicaST_CALI]

Remember....if ur brown...stick around...if ur yellow....be mellow...if u white...do wats right i literally said in the middle of class"WTF"hahaha

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jan 20, 2009 - 11:17 PM