Limited edition side skirts for 6th gen, Limited edition side skirts for 6th gen Options

[NEVERSTOP]

I am going to produce a limited edition fiberglass side skirt for the 6th gen Celica.
It will be based off of the veilside/vis invader side skirt, but will have a air intake molded into the rear of it that will have the option of forcing air into the rear wheel well, thus cooling the rear brakes by cirrculating more air in the wheel well. The side skirts will come a with mesh grill insert that can be changed to match any other grills you may have. There will be a few other minor changes added.
These side skirts will be molded for a perfect fit... unlike the vis side skirt that need alot of modifications to fit correctly

Info:

Estimated cost: $350-400 for the set.
5 layer molded fiberglass.
Preped and primered.
Molded mounting brakets for mesh grill.
Mesh grill is included.
Tubing for funcional side skirts only.
Diagrams for cutting to fit tubing.
Hardware for mounting.
Approx weight: 5lbs each

Prototype designs will be availble soon.

These side skirts will be a limited edition only, I am planning on making ten sets and possibly more depending on demand.

I will NOT ship two sets within 300 mile of each other... That way they will be as close to one of a kind as possible. This way you won't drive down the street and see another Celica with these sideskirts.

I am also planning on developing a front and rear air dam for the 6th gen. I want to see how well the side skirts go over before I produce the front and rear.

I would like to have at least 10 sets preordered before I start to produce them. I do not need the cash up front. Money will be collected prior to shipping.

If you have questions or comments regarding this you can contact me via email.


Thanks
Neverstop
XNEVERSTOPX@aol.com

[trdcelica99]

sounds sweet man do you have any pics?

[NEVERSTOP]

I am waiting for 10 or more people to commit to ordering them.... I'm not asking for cash yet, just that you are interested in buying them... I wont sell any of them until I have a photo of them.

Will post a concept design as soon as I can though.

[1bwilson]

10 people is going to be tough due to the fact that you have no pics and want 400 for a set. Good luck tho.

-Bryan-

[JWalk1818]

Tru that and 350-400 is a lot. I knwo its custom but your loking at like 600 by the time you get it shipped and painted an on maybe even more!

[OCU_Celi]

Not to mention the fact that we can order an entire Erebuni kit for like $750 shipped. Maybe if the design is outta this world, and the cost is like 250, then more may consider it. I would buy them if they were cheaper, but $400 for just side skirts is a little high.

nathan

[0Re0]

Not to mention the fact that we can order an entire Erebuni kit for like $750 shipped. Maybe if the design is outta this world, and the cost is like 250, then more may consider it. I would buy them if they were cheaper, but $400 for just side skirts is a little high.

nathan

WERD!

[NEVERSTOP]

The $350-400 is just an estimated cost and it is high just so that I don't end up charging people more than I originally told them it would be. The actual cost of these will be cheaper.

As for the Erebuni kit.... If you know anyone who has this they will tell you that it fits like ****!

These side skirts will be molded directly from a celica's rocker panel... so that they will not need to be modified at all.... which will keep shop cost down. They will only need to be sprayed and cleared.

Also when you think about it $400 at most is not that much for a set of sideskirts that not only look really nice but are also a performance mod. Expecially since it will cost you $400 to buy just the side skirts from Erebuni or Vis racing and a hell of alot more from veilside.

Also I will not ship these within 300 miles of anyone else who has them, so a little extra to have something that you will not see on another Celica around you is worth it.

I will post a concept drawing later tonight for you guys to look at.

[NEVERSTOP]

Here is a ruff concept design of the sideskirts... These don't show how they would look exactly... just the basic design.

Once I have the 1st set made I will post pics of them and then I will take orders for them.

This concept doesn't show the mesh grill so use your imagination.

Photo

Also what would you think would be a fair price?

[JWalk1818]

Too much going on it it for me! But good design though, hope it sells!

[forkee]

that looks really good, maybe if u can raise the back part to look like the supra side scoop. i'd pay $250 at the most. are u sure ur not gonna sell it to people close by? i don't think any of us will mind. 10-15 sideskirts out of the thousands of 6th gen owners. ask any of us, i'm pretty sure none of us have a problem with that. but yea, definitely keep me posted. i need to get sideskirts and i want yours!

[whitefuzz]

yep they look nice!!

too bad i live in belgium(shipping would be a lot i think),

already have sideskirts (not the nicest ever though)

and i don't have the money cuz i'm working on my ice...

but i do hope you find enough people to make em and then show us some pictures!!!

good luck

[1bwilson]

That looks great. 250-300 would be a good price anything more would be overkill.

-Bryan-

[1_Winged_Angel]

These look exactly like the sideskirts that Qatar has for $220. What is the difference?



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[boosted_K2]

the back is raised slightly compared to the SSV lotus skirts and it has a little more agressive look to it, the difference is they wouldnt look right with anything but the invader front...

[NEVERSTOP]

maybe if u can raise the back part to look like the supra side scoop

I thought about doing this... The only prob with it would be that to make the scoop functional You would have to cut into the rear clip of the car... not everyone is willing to do this.

I will probably make quite a few changes to the design before I make the final product... that's is why I'm trying to get ideas now so any suggestions will be appreciated!

the difference is they wouldnt look right with anything but the invader front...

This isn't exactly true... they would look good with certain other kits, but they are being designed to work with the Invader front end.

[1_Winged_Angel]

How about skirts that go with Stock and GT-4 kits.

[NEVERSTOP]

How about skirts that go with Stock and GT-4 kits

For me to do that the cost would go way up.

I would have to buy the kit, then mold it to make a exact replica, then I would have to make my changes to the kit, remold it and then produce the actual piece.

I already have the Invader kit so for me I would be more cost effective to do the ones I am talking about for now and later work on other projects.

Thanks
Neverstop

[x_itchy_b_x]

ur concept looks so nice if they look like that i would be interested. i'd have to work my *** off for money.

[OCU_Celi]

i don't know. for just the little "scoop" in there, $250 doesn't seem worth it. when you said scoop, i pictured like a big 4-5 inch hole. i'm not dissing it, but it doesn't seem agressive enough. i mean i know the erebuni and VIS kits fit like crap, but if you have a buddy at a shop(which i do) it's a lot easier to get it fixed. and again, if one were to buy the side skirts from you, and then buy the front and rear bumpers from either of the companies, the price would go upwards of 1,000 dollars. i'm not so sure that it'd be worth it. again i'm not dogging it for anyone else, just stating my opinion. if the design was a little more aggressive i'd be down for it. the design does look good though, hope it all works out. have you thought about maybe customizing the rear bumper of the invader kit?

[boosted_K2]

not agressive enough....?? those are the most agressive sideskirts that probably will ever be available in the US unless spending up the anus to import some JDM ones OR custom making your own... if i didnt already have the SSV lotus skirts purchased id definatly get those, the price is really good!! ESP with that kinda fitment! total price on the lotus are 240 in the continental US (220 since im picking em up from his house). BTW i wish i could draw 1/2 as good as you!!

[NEVERSTOP]

Okay so I drew a new concept design based on the comment about the air vents the Supra has.... This is once again just a concept and will not be excatly what the finished product looks like.

I am still alittle sceptical about haveing the piece come back onto the door like it is drawn in the concept... this would be really hard for this to hold up over time and am giving some thought to changing the desing slightly to eleminate this.


Also with this design you would be required to cut into rear clip of your car to make the side skirts funcional... this would be a permanet mod to your car and would be really hard to fix... I am thinking about making the side skirts a two piece design that would give you the option of just leaving the body of the car alone or making the piece funcitonal.... this would require a body shop to make the modifications even though I would include a detailed how-to I still would suggest haveing a shop do this..

Also if I make the two piece design expect the cost to go up a little but will still try to keep it within the $200-$300 range for the set.

Newayz here is the design

Concept design 2


Please feel free to make suggestions on this design

Thanks
Neverstop

[1_Winged_Angel]

wow, that definatly looks amazing. But will that aerodynamically help the car? seems like a lot of drag.

[iceman23]

Ha, drag or not those are pretty sweet. Good luck with them!!

[forkee]

yep, those are the ones i want.....heehee, kinda like these:


gimme gimme gimme......

[x_itchy_b_x]

All i can say is wow! the second concept looks so much more aggresive i love it.

[OCU_Celi]

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I know I was your biggest critic, and I must say I'm not sorry, b/c the new design is AWESOME. I can't wait 'til you take some orders, I want to be #1 for that 2-piece. Thanks so much for all your effort. Once again sorry for being such a prick. When do you think you'll start production of those? Thanks again.

Nathan

[NEVERSTOP]

I actually bailed on work for an hour today to finish the mold of the original piece... I am going over there in just a few minutes to check on it and make sure the mold cured right... this weekend I am going to start sculpting the design so I will need any and all suggestions about the design posted here by Saturday night...

Once I start the design it will be hard to change the idea... also I have decided that I will not have the sideskirt come back down the car onto the door as it is in the concept skecth... this would be too hard to keep on the car for any pieriod of time... If you guys REALLY want it I will do it but I think it would be a bad idea to have it like that.

Other wise the side skirt will look alot like the concept design.

One last thing that I would like for you guys to decide for this....

Do you want the top of the side skirt to be edged of it would look like it does when a body piece is not molded in.... just like in the photo that forkee posted of the supra.

Or would you want it smoothed out so a body shop could mold it in to the car??

I think the 1st option would be the better choice becouse that why you can still have it molded in if you want or you can keep it with the body line it creates....

I know that might be confusing but try and figure it out.

Thanks
Neverstop

[NEVERSTOP]

QUOTE

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I know I was your biggest critic, and I must say I'm not sorry, b/c the new design is AWESOME. I can't wait 'til you take some orders, I want to be #1 for that 2-piece. Thanks so much for all your effort. Once again sorry for being such a prick. When do you think you'll start production of those? Thanks again. Nathan

No big deal man

Thats why I posted the concept sketches... If I didn't want your opinions I would of just made them and then shown them to you guys.


Thanks
Neverstop

[NEVERSTOP]

[/QUOTE]wow, that definatly looks amazing. but will that aerodynamically help the car? seems like a lot of drag.[QUOTE]

There will really be only a slight bit of drag if you don't make the skirts functional and almost no drag if they are functional.

what will happen if you don't make the skirts functional what will happen when you drive it the scoop will fill with air creating a pocket and the air will stay trapped it the scoop forcing new air to just flow over the opening... eliminating drag.

Thanks
Neverstop

[forkee]

look at my car! hehe

(now wheres that front bumper i ordered......)

p.s.- i honestly dont mind if the scoop isnt functional, i'd rather just have it go over the existing body than have to cut into it

[OCU_Celi]

so when are these gonna go into production and when can we buy them? thanks.

Nathan

[NEVERSTOP]

forkee...

That's actually really close to what I have in mind.... might even use that photo as a model for the sculpting!

As for a production date... the replica mold was finished last night... I am going to make the replica piece tonight.... Thursday I'm going clubbin... Friday I am gonna spin at DREAMLAND and then Saturday I will start the sculpting... so hopeful by Tuesday I will have the passanger side completed and have the finished piece. Then I will have to do the same process for the other side..

I am hoping to have these ready for shipping within two weeks tops... but that may change.

As for the skirts being functional I am still debating this... I might offer them not functional and then have a kit that would include the tubing and the scoop that goes into the body of the car... this would cost more than the skirts that are nonfunctional.

As for purchasing these side skirts they will be avalible only through me... when both side are completed I will post a reply that will have pics of them and the cost for the set and info for ordering them..

Right now I am trying to keep the cost for the set between $200-300. I already have over $200 into the production of these and I have barely started on them. Just to make the 1st set I will have an estimated $1000 into them... obviously they will cost less once all the molds are made. Once I figure out how much just I have in just one complete set then I will be able to figure an exact price for you guys.. As for shipping it will be through UPS unless I have to truck freight them... depends on size and weight of the box. I will have more info about shipping at a later time...

Thanks,
Neverstop

[NEVERSTOP]

Okay so the replica piece came out fine so tommorrow I am gonna start sculpting so any last suggestions need to be in tonight

[Ghost]

Everything looks great...as for buying it you can count me in (also known as 6th gen on celica.net). Although it'd take me a bit of time to get that kind of money, is that an issue?

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 20 2002, 08:30 PM)

That's actually really close to what I have in mind.... might even use that photo as a model for the sculpting!

could you detail the process of sculpting? seems like a pretty generic term. how are you actually going about this? I would be very interested in a write up.

thnx

[NEVERSTOP]

To answer your question about sculpting.... Usally I would use streofoam or bent chicken wire to get a basic shape and then bondo and fiberglass for the details..

For this project I am actually using sculpting clay for the design.. Once it is all formed in the clay I will use a sealer on it and then make a fiberglass mold of it. Once I have a mold then I just use the mold to create the new pieces.

QUOTE

Everything looks great...as for buying it you can count me in (also known as 6th gen on celica.net). Although it'd take me a bit of time to get that kind of money, is that an issue?

Once I have the mold I can make these at any time... I am only really planning on making about 10 sets though... will make more if there is enuf demand for it but not sure how many people that say they want them will acutally pick them up.

Also I had hoped to have the drivers side done today but it snowed over the weekend and was too cold for me to work on it so I hope to have it done within this week.

Thanks
Neverstop

[BigEdge169]

I just now found this website recently and I was looking at the forums and found this. I was about to get a body kit for my car and I really like your ideas. Have you started selling them yet or are you already sold out? Also, will it work with the coupe model or will it only work with the liftback? Thanks.

[NEVERSTOP]

Well I haven't finished them yet... it's been way to cold for me to work on them... I hope to have them done sometime within the month.... as for what they will fit... any 6th gen.

Thanks
NEVERSTOP

[BigEdge169]

Sounds great. Going off the pre-production sketches, I think I'd like to get in on this too. I'll try to keep up with the posts to see how they're coming along.

[3TST]

I like your concept 2 design very much.
I agree with you about the line/part along the door ... way to difficult to fit (and stay fitted).
Not sure about forkee's design - sorry about that.
It's just that I do not like how it sweeps up at the back.
I prefer the bottom of the skirt to run horizontal.

I have my ideas on kits and have already decided to do a mix and match.
(Veilside/Vis/Carconcept)
These are awesome and exactly what I'm looking for.
I would prefer a functional set.

The $200-300 price is OK for me...even if it is going to cost me a small fortune to ship to France.
Keep me/us posted.

[forkee]

QUOTE (vphmc @ Dec 2 2002, 09:27 AM)

Not sure about forkee's design - sorry about that.

lol, its all good, i just got the sideskirts off a supra and pasted it on there, so yea thats why it looks funny

[OCU_Celi]

any progress lately? what's the word?

Nathan

[NEVERSTOP]

It's been too cold for me to work on it. I am afraid that the molds and stuff wont cure how I want them to and then the pieces will have to be reworked. It's suppossed to be really nice sunday and monday which are my days off so I am gonna work on them if I can.. I'll keep you guys posted on these.

Thanks
NEVERSTOP

[OCU_Celi]

any news?

[NEVERSTOP]

I had to start one of the molds over agian cuz I wasn't happy with how it turned out... that and it has been too cold for me to really work on them a whole lot but I am trying to get these done asap

[forkee]

take any pics?

[OCU_Celi]

hey forkee, where'd you get that front invader piece? how much you pay for it? Looks tight! GET RIMS!!!!!!!

[freestyler121]

i want to buy a set, i ahve the moeny ready to be spent, just tell me when your done, dennis

aol freestyler121@Aol.com

[forkee]

QUOTE (OCU_Celi @ Dec 17 2002, 05:14 PM)

hey forkee, where'd you get that front invader piece? how much you pay for it? Looks tight! GET RIMS!!!!!!!

i got it off of mbautosport.com. the dealer is nearby so i didnt have to pay for shipping, i just went over and picked it up. it was $176 flat. i had to pay 400 to put it on tho cuz a hell of a lot of fiberglass was added to the light sockets. it also included the paint job, which looks a lot better than in the pics (stupid digital camera). but yea still waitin on my jdm tails from roo.....HIN CITY here i come!!!

[CDNSLEEKA]

What`s the scoop on the side skirts?Are they still going to be made?I have most of the money saved up.

[OCU_Celi]

yeah man, what's the W3RD?

[Guest_Matthew_*]

I will definitely take them. Those look saweet. Woot woot.

[NEVERSTOP]

yeah there still gonna get made... its just been too cold for me to work on them.... as soon as I get a couple more nice days to work they should be done... I will keep you guys updated on them as soon as I have something.

[PaulGT]

dude i like them let me know dude!!! im in, and you know im good for the money i bought your injen intake from ya about a month ago...oh and by the way i love that damn intake!!! thanks again for that dude!!
PAUL

[jayi12-15psi]

I'm willing to pay 350 for 'em, there completely unique, when do you plan on making them?
definately count me in.

[NEVERSTOP]

I just stumbled across somthing that might make this a little easier... check it out



The measurement on a 5th gen celica is 71 inches... I am going to check on the 6th gen measurements and see how close it is if its within an inch or two it might be cheaper for you guys to just buy these side skirts and have a shop do it for you... other wise I will still finish making them.

[0Re0]

[NEVERSTOP]

I jus went and measured one of my molds for the side of the 6th gen... I dont have my car close to me right now so I need someone to verify this for me but the measurement that I got was 70.5 inches if that is the actual measure ment which I am pretty sure it is then they should work. I am not sure on how they would work with the side of the car though... I think I might just buy a set and them modify them how they need to be to work on a 6th gen and then reproduce them for you guys.... I will get back to you guys on this.

edit: thanks oreo... think u could make it a little smaller though???

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Jan 20, 2003 - 12:04 AM

[3TST]

Very nice!
Just a couple of points/observations:
- How much are they?
- How well would they fit a 6GC?
- There appears to be no way to make them practical, that is, the ducting/scoop at the back is closed and has no grill, therefore there is no air flow for brake cooling.


I personally would be prepared to wait for you to come up with something as I'd be getting exactly what I want and they would fit correctly.
(...and I'm prepared to pay for that).

[NEVERSTOP]

The cheapest I have found the skirts for sofar is 200 +shipping.
I took a few mesurements of my friends 5th gen and some measurement of of one of my molds... my car is 150miles away so I couldn't measure it itself.
The 5th gen side is 1/2 inch longer than the 6th gen and the space from the front of the rear wheel well to the back of the door is about the same also... I am going to drive up to where my car is tomorrow and take exact measurements....

The only problem that I see with just buying them and using them is that the 5th gen side is pretty much flat and the 6th gen one indents into the car...

That means that I will have to modify them for them to be an exact fit... which wont be too hard for me to do.

As for making it functional that wont be a big deal to do.. I think that there is a flat section on the 5th gen skirts where the scoop is.. that would have to be removed to make them work on the 6th gen cuz of the body line right above the rocker panel.
As for the actual cut into the body I will have to check agian to make sure that you wont cut though ne structual stuff but it should work no problem.

I will post a little more tomorrow after I get back from taking measurements on my car

Edit: I own page 4!!!

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Jan 21, 2003 - 2:07 AM

[No0bOne]

Hey Hey what have i misssed in here? Dayam lots of things! I'm wondering which concept are you going with? Everything so far sounds good but i'm a little confused.

[OCU_Celi]

it's gonna be concept two, but the duct can be functional or just cosmetic, depending on your choice. and NEVERSTOP where did you find the skirts for 200? i could only find them for 250+shipping.

[No0bOne]

I don't wanna cut my.....to make it functional. Although i've thought about it i don't know if it is worth it or not.

[NEVERSTOP]

okay here is the deal, I drove up to my car today... long drive... newayz the measure ments are almost exact with the 5th gen being just slightly bigger than the 6th gen so the skirts will match up but there is a problem with them... the side of the 5th gen is almost completly flat and the 6th gen isnt... it indents inward.. that means there will be a gap between the side of the 6th gen and the 5th gen sideskirts... and it will be kinda big and would look like ****. Newayz I plan on buyin a set and making the nessacary mods to it to make if fit perfectly on the side of a 6th gen. And then this is what I will sell to you guys. I will also include the piping and the cover piece for the hole that will have to be cut to make them functional.

I will probably buy the sideskirts in 2 or 3 weeks and see how hard this will be to do but I think doing this way will turn out better than the way I was doing it before.

I will let you guys know how well this Idea will work as soon as I get my set.


Thanks


OCU_Celi check out Here

[OCU_Celi]

sweet thanks for the link, you know NEVERSTOP it's gonna be nice this week not pushing it though, i want you to do a great job, and i'm sure you will

[NEVERSTOP]

Nice my .... We just got 4 inches of snow!

[3TST]

We've got 5"
So, as when you can.
I, for one, am really looking forward to these.

[OCU_Celi]

you have snow? I'm in MO and you're in IA, we were 63 degrees yesterday!

[FallenHero]

Yea, Down here in bama a few days ago it was hot. Well, hot to me at least.

[3TST]

Never even made it out of the house yesterday let alone into work.
Snowed overnight, woke to find 2' of snow in the drive.
Still needed chains this morning.

[No0bOne]

NEVERSTOP, any news for us lately?

[NEVERSTOP]

waitin for the 5th gen sideskirts to come in and see how hard they are gonna be to mold the side of the 6th gen

[NEVERSTOP]

okay I finally talked my friend with 5th gen into lettin me borrow his car for a day... had to let him take my civic though... that sucked cuz I REALLY didnt want it drivin this time a year...expessially by him... but newayz.

I drove up to my car and took off one of the sideskirts and tried to put it onto the 5th gen... guess what.. it didnt fit..... and thats really good news!!!! the 5th gen side is about 1/2 inch longer than the 6th gen... what that means is the 5th gen sideskirt is gonna fit onto the side of the 6th gen no prob. there will be a gap of about a 1/4 inch on both sides of the side skirt...even though I think it would be better to match up the rear side flush and then fill in the front... newayz the side of the car which I though was gonna be a problem I know dont think will be.. maybe just a few little minor things to change... I really think that, from lookin at the 5th and 6th gen sides and havin the side skirt to work with, the 5th gen invader sideskirts are pretty much gonna fit about as well as the 6th gen ones do and they will have the part that comes up and scoops around...I should have them in in just a few days and will go back up to my car and check it out for sure but I really think that you guys would be better off just ordering the 5th gen sideskirts and fittin them either yourselves or having a shop do it... its going to cost you guys less in the long run... as much as I hate to pass up a chance to make some $ I think this will be your better option.. when I get the side skirts in I will let you guys know what I think will work and what wont.

regardless I am still going to make atleast the piece that will fit into the side of the car to make the scoop functional. I will keep you guys posted about this as soon as I figure stuffout.

thanks
NEVERSTOP

[NEVERSTOP]

******UPDATE******

this is now the second time I am typing this cuz AOL sucks and right as I got done with the first time I got disconnected.

Newayz:

I got my 5th gen invader sideskirts last thursday and drove up to my car to see if they will work and gues what


... they dont fit... well they do but at the bottom of the rear section the skirt comes back in to far... and that isnt somthing that really can be fixed with out changing the whole structure of the piece... so after realizing that they wouldnt work the way I wanted them to we busted out the dremel and went to work shaping it down.... made me want to cry when I saw how much of that sideskirt that isnt gonna be used... 280 for a little scoop.. oh well.

once when had the scoop portion cut off of the sideskirt we then shapped it down to fit up agianst the side of the celica and the 6th gen invader sideskirts... OMG does it look good.. we 3m taped it on and it makes me wanna just jerk off right there <---- J/K

Newayz the scoop fits with the body lines of the 6th gen invader sideskirt perfectly... right down to the millimeter.. yea we measured every thing out. I am gonna go up there later this week if I get a chance and we are gonna fill in a few gaps that there are and glass it all in.. If I get it done I will post a pic of the side skirt.. sorry not of it on the car though<--- not until the car is finished.

there is some bad news though.......

I am not goning to make mine functional... as much as I would like to I am not doing it and heres why:

I recently got my Brembo cross drilled slotted rotors and after talkin to a locale race shop I decided not to make the scoops functional as there will be too much cooling and the rotors will be in danger of cracking <--- not good and not gonna risk it - PERIOD so dont ask BTW that means that I am not gonna make the piece to make the skirts functional because I will not have an exact mold to go off of.

the shop actually had this really cool program that allowed you to take in photos of your car and then you scanned them in and it would calculated the air flow to certian areas of the the vehicle...was really neat if ne one is interested I could probably find out the name of the program .

Newayz here is the final conclusion I have come to:

If you already own the 6th gen invader sideskirts then just buy the sideskirts here, mine where 280 dollars shipped and they did a really impressive job witht the packaging

once u have both set of sideskirts then you can either fit them urself which I will be more than willing to help you with or you can have a shop do it for you... shouldnt be too much for that.

if you dont have the invader side skirts then I would suggest that you get them and then follow the above instructions.

I am debatin if I still want to produce these or not as it will proably be cheaper in the long run for you guys to just buy both sideskirts... I am still undecided as my car will be done some time here in the next month or two and once that happens I will have not spare time to work on side projects... lots of money to be made racin around here. like I said though I might still make these so I will let you know what I think when I get mine done and I will try and have a price for you guys if I still want to produce them..

Thanks