New turbo kit - EMSPowered Options

[baktasht]

Some of you have heard rumors of our new crazy turbo kit. And a few lucky people that stepped up to help us out with feedback after development already have the kit on their cars. This kit was in development for over a year. We are now releasing it for public sale. We are planning to start the first group buy for these kits this coming week, but I couldn't hold back my excitement for too long. Here are some teaser pics and a bit of information on the kit.

The turbo we're using for this kit is the Borg Warner line of "Extended Tip Technology" turbos. These are extremely high quality german made turbos. You see a lot of high end sports cars like Porsche's running these turbos and you'll also find them on high horsepower Supra's, domestic V8's, and big power diesel's. These turbos have a very good compressor design. They spool fast, make great low end power, make great torque and have amazing top end. Not only that but they are much better built and have better reliability ratings than your typical t3/t4 or GT turbos. They make great power at low boost and they perform amazingly at high boost up to around 30psi without a hickup.

Our standard warranty applies to this kit as well. Lifetime warranty on all parts except the turbo, and a 1 year warranty on the turbo. These turbos should realistically last 200k miles or more.

The kit includes the following parts:

* Borg Warner "Extended Tip Technology" turbo
(Various sizes available for power levels from 300hp all the way to 700hp)
* Stainless Steel turbo turbine housing
* Optional polished turbine housing
* Optional polished compressor housing
* TIAL 38mm external wastegate (any color and any spring rate)
* Stainless Steel wastegate dump tube / screamer pipe
* 3" Stainless Steel downpipe with OEM O2 sensor bung and wideband O2 sensor bung
* Downpipe support bracket
* -4AN braided SS oil feed line
* -10AN braided SS oil drain line
* Custom machined fittings
* Custom thick walled ramhorn exhaust manifold
* Intake coupler to matte to stock intake
* Mounting hardware
* Gaskets
* Optional hotpipe
* Optional 3" or 4" intake
* Optional high temperature ceramic coating on manifold, downpipe and wastegate screamer pipe


Here are some teaser pictures. Please keep in mind that not all parts included in kit are pictured. Only the manifld, downpipe, turbo and wastegate dumptube are in the pictures.

Start saving up for the group buy. I'll be posting it up in a few days. Pricing and more details will be posted up in the group buy. This thread is just for showing off. Enjoy!

[presure2]

nice to see you here and posting baktasht.

that looks like a nice kit!

[Dr_Tweak]

Very nice looking parts. Welcome to 6GC.

-Doc

[NGHTKD]

OMFG, i thought the day would never come for us 6gc'ers.

awesome work!!!

[_Jim_]

Glad to see 6GC finally getting the attention of some Vendors, Its been a long time coming

[whatthe]

Awesome!

This post has been edited by whatthe: Feb 15, 2009 - 10:50 AM

[stephen_lee]

What engine(s) is this for?

[coosthunder]

2nd and 3rd gen 3SGTE, or st185 and st205 3sgte. Looks like a great very promising kit i think i may just go this way when i do my swap in my 5th gen.

[lagos]

A work of art!

[95st-celica]

WOW...looks like i better start saving!

looking forward to seeing prices and more pictures of the other goodies that comes with the kit

[Bigblock]

I just may sell my bigblock and invest in something like this!User friendly or is a megabuck mechanic neede to install?Turbo-bitchin'!!!!

[JustinCapps]

i have a 94 celica gt with 280,xxx miles on it..
is it a good idea to put one of these on a my car??

[95st-celica]

i have a 94 celica gt with 280,xxx miles on it..
is it a good idea to put one of these on a my car??

no

[Fate]

this is awesome.

[enderswift]

...this may be the dumbest question of the century, but 5s? 7a? ect???

im sure its written somewhere in glaring red blinking letters.

good lookin kit though.

looks very well made. CNC?

[RUNNIN-LOW]

damn u!!! could have let all of us know early..so the people that was wanting one could have waiting and just got this kit!!!! the kit looks amazing!!!

[x_itchy_b_x]

diesel turbos ftw

[baktasht]

i have a 94 celica gt with 280,xxx miles on it..
is it a good idea to put one of these on a my car??

As long as your motor has good compression and you have the mods to support the power levels you're shooting for it shouldnt be a problem. There's plenty of MR2 guys running completely stock long blocks with 200k or more miles and beating the hell out of them, with good reliability. But they do it a step at a time and make sure they have the supporting modifications to keep relatively safe at the power levels they're going for.

...this may be the dumbest question of the century, but 5s? 7a? ect???

im sure its written somewhere in glaring red blinking letters.

good lookin kit though.

looks very well made. CNC?

The kit pictured is designed for the gen2 3sgte. Should fit the gen1 3sgte as well, and the 5sfe as also. The flanges are laser cut, and all the piping is CNC bent.


We're working on a gen3 3sgte kit as well that will be similar, so if there's anyone that has a gen3 3sgte and wants to be one of the first with that kit email me.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

holy cow thats awesome

-bboy

[pittfirefighter]

is there any chance of getting just the wastegate dumppipe, ramhorn manifold, and downpipe by themselves in a package?? i have the parts now just the piping on my car is a POS.... what kinda price we talking about for these three?

[baktasht]

is there any chance of getting just the wastegate dumppipe, ramhorn manifold, and downpipe by themselves in a package?? i have the parts now just the piping on my car is a POS.... what kinda price we talking about for these three?

Yes, that is no problem. Email or PM me and we can discuss the details.

[baktasht]

Here are the compressor maps of the turbos available with this kit

S247
http://emspowered.com/images/products/turb...pressor_map.jpg

S250
http://emspowered.com/images/products/turb...pressor_map.jpg

S252
http://emspowered.com/images/products/turb...pressor_map.jpg

S256
http://emspowered.com/images/products/turb...pressor_map.jpg

[baktasht]

Here are a few more pictures:

[JustinCapps]

would this kit fit on a 5f-se??

[jcaron9gt4]

Yes, this was already asked and answered in the post.

[baktasht]

would this kit fit on a 5f-se??

Yup

[C3L1CA]

looks like a quality kit! Any reason you built the manifold the way you did? I don't think I've ever seen the runners come together so quickly.

[baktasht]

looks like a quality kit! Any reason you built the manifold the way you did? I don't think I've ever seen the runners come together so quickly.

It's a pretty common design in high HP turbo'd applications amongst all sorts of cars. It is not only very strong this way but also flows well.

[C3L1CA]

Have any links to a similar design where all the runners go to one pipe then into the turbo? Whats "high" hp too? I've honestly never seen such a design and (in my mind) it would hurt performance to have them all dump together like you have it. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand where you're coming from?

[baktasht]

Have any links to a similar design where all the runners go to one pipe then into the turbo? Whats "high" hp too? I've honestly never seen such a design and (in my mind) it would hurt performance to have them all dump together like you have it. Not trying to be a dick, just trying to understand where you're coming from?

It's called a "ramhorn" design. A simple google search gets a ton of similar designs. It's very common: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&...ifold&gbv=2

[WH95TE]

That looks sick all bolted on. You guys should come up with a similar design to fit the 7a as well

[kzAGENTx]

Ive been saving up money for a 3s,swap but if I can get this kit and the stuff that i already have that would be great.

[6strngs]

So how come the turbo kit you have shown here and the one that you have a GB for in the FS section as well as the one you have on your website are different?

The one you've got here comes with a manifold and external wastegate and the one on your website uses an internal wastegate and the stock manifold So what's the price tag look like on this one with the manifold?

[presure2]

So how come the turbo kit you have shown here and the one that you have a GB for in the FS section as well as the one you have on your website are different?

The one you've got here comes with a manifold and external wastegate and the one on your website uses an internal wastegate and the stock manifold So what's the price tag look like on this one with the manifold?

dude, seriously.
LOOK AROUND before you post.
READ the post.
your talking about 2 diffrent products.

[6strngs]

So how come the turbo kit you have shown here and the one that you have a GB for in the FS section as well as the one you have on your website are different?

The one you've got here comes with a manifold and external wastegate and the one on your website uses an internal wastegate and the stock manifold So what's the price tag look like on this one with the manifold?

dude, seriously.
LOOK AROUND before you post.
READ the post.
your talking about 2 diffrent products.

well, he was saying he would post a GB in the FS section. So I look there and the turbo kit in that post is different. and he doesn't mention a price for this turbo kit anywhere. I thought they were the same kit since they both use the same borg warner turbos... So I think my questions are reasonable.

[presure2]

well, i dunno. to me, it seems pretty clear.
one is just a turbo, that bolts to the stock exhaust manifold.

the other (this one) is a turbo "kit", that includes a manifold, has a standard inlet flange (the pics on the 1st page show this), ect.
besides the fact the thread for his bolt on turbo is like 6-8posts down from this one.
seems pretty clear to me.

just a matter of paying attention, and reading a bit.

[baktasht]

Ya, two totally different kits. One comes with it's own manifold and is our "top of the line" kit. The other bolts directly to the stock exhaust manifold and is our more "entry level kit" that is our answer to other turbo kits currently on the market.

[njccmd2002]

any news, is this kit available? pricing?

[Terracar]

well, i dunno. to me, it seems pretty clear.
one is just a turbo, that bolts to the stock exhaust manifold.

the other (this one) is a turbo "kit", that includes a manifold, has a standard inlet flange (the pics on the 1st page show this), ect.
besides the fact the thread for his bolt on turbo is like 6-8posts down from this one.
seems pretty clear to me.

just a matter of paying attention, and reading a bit.

Ok before I get the hatorade tossed into my cookies, I am not clear on wtf you said - are you saying there is a GB in buying/selling for this? If so I just checked and it isn't there. And judguing by the date I am sure there is a few explanations:

1. GB for this is over and done with - if so I was unable to find it on the EMS website
2. GB hasn't taken place
3. I am on crack, blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid at the moment

Please let me know.

-Terracar

[presure2]

well, i dunno. to me, it seems pretty clear.
one is just a turbo, that bolts to the stock exhaust manifold.

the other (this one) is a turbo "kit", that includes a manifold, has a standard inlet flange (the pics on the 1st page show this), ect.
besides the fact the thread for his bolt on turbo is like 6-8posts down from this one.
seems pretty clear to me.

just a matter of paying attention, and reading a bit.

Ok before I get the hatorade tossed into my cookies, I am not clear on wtf you said - are you saying there is a GB in buying/selling for this? If so I just checked and it isn't there. And judguing by the date I am sure there is a few explanations:

1. GB for this is over and done with - if so I was unable to find it on the EMS website
2. GB hasn't taken place
3. I am on crack, blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid at the moment

Please let me know.

-Terracar

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=65521&hl=

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=65743&hl=

[Terracar]

well, i dunno. to me, it seems pretty clear.
one is just a turbo, that bolts to the stock exhaust manifold.

the other (this one) is a turbo "kit", that includes a manifold, has a standard inlet flange (the pics on the 1st page show this), ect.
besides the fact the thread for his bolt on turbo is like 6-8posts down from this one.
seems pretty clear to me.

just a matter of paying attention, and reading a bit.

Ok before I get the hatorade tossed into my cookies, I am not clear on wtf you said - are you saying there is a GB in buying/selling for this? If so I just checked and it isn't there. And judguing by the date I am sure there is a few explanations:

1. GB for this is over and done with - if so I was unable to find it on the EMS website
2. GB hasn't taken place
3. I am on crack, blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid at the moment

Please let me know.

-Terracar

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=65521&hl=

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=65743&hl=

So uh pressure - the two links - #1 is a link to THIS thread which is for a turbo kit WITH manifold & external wastegate (and is not the actual GB post/thread for it), #2 is a link to the kit WITHOUT the manifold (bolt-on w/ internal wastegate) - as was specified above by Baktasht which is a completely different sale - so yeah the links DIDN"T HELP.

Ya, two totally different kits. One comes with it's own manifold and is our "top of the line" kit. The other bolts directly to the stock exhaust manifold and is our more "entry level kit" that is our answer to other turbo kits currently on the market.

So here again - I am not sure we are on the same page. I DO NOT SEE A GB for the turbo kit (including manifold/external wastegate) mentioned in this thread - so thank you for trying to to help, but yeah 2 different items which is clear we aren't on the same page.

So I am chalking it up to my assumption #2 above in my prior post - I await Baktasht to provide additional clarification.

-Terracar

This post has been edited by Terracar: May 14, 2009 - 12:00 PM

[baktasht]

They're two totally different kits. the kit being discussed in THIS thread is not released for public sale yet. We have sold around 6 of them as custom items and if you're interested in one please PM or email me and I'll get you availability and current pricing. The OTHER kit is the one that is currently available and there was a group buy on it that just recently ended.

[Detatch]

[quote name='baktasht' date='Feb 15, 2009 - 4:08 AM' post='754487']
Some of you have heard rumors of our new crazy turbo kit. And a few lucky people that stepped up to help us out with feedback after development already have the kit on their cars. This kit was in development for over a year. We are now releasing it for public sale. We are planning to start the first group buy for these kits this coming week, but I couldn't hold back my excitement for too long. Here are some teaser pics and a bit of information on the kit.

The turbo we're using for this kit is the Borg Warner line of "Extended Tip Technology" turbos. These are extremely high quality german made turbos. You see a lot of high end sports cars like Porsche's running these turbos and you'll also find them on high horsepower Supra's, domestic V8's, and big power diesel's. These turbos have a very good compressor design. They spool fast, make great low end power, make great torque and have amazing top end. Not only that but they are much better built and have better reliability ratings than your typical t3/t4 or GT turbos. They make great power at low boost and they perform amazingly at high boost up to around 30psi without a hickup.

Our standard warranty applies to this kit as well. Lifetime warranty on all parts except the turbo, and a 1 year warranty on the turbo. These turbos should realistically last 200k miles or more.

The kit includes the following parts:

* Borg Warner "Extended Tip Technology" turbo
(Various sizes available for power levels from 300hp all the way to 700hp)
* Stainless Steel turbo turbine housing
* Optional polished turbine housing
* Optional polished compressor housing
* TIAL 38mm external wastegate (any color and any spring rate)
* Stainless Steel wastegate dump tube / screamer pipe
* 3" Stainless Steel downpipe with OEM O2 sensor bung and wideband O2 sensor bung
* Downpipe support bracket
* -4AN braided SS oil feed line
* -10AN braided SS oil drain line
* Custom machined fittings
* Custom thick walled ramhorn exhaust manifold
* Intake coupler to matte to stock intake
* Mounting hardware
* Gaskets
* Optional hotpipe
* Optional 3" or 4" intake
* Optional high temperature ceramic coating on manifold, downpipe and wastegate screamer pipe


Here are some teaser pictures. Please keep in mind that not all parts included in kit are pictured. Only the manifld, downpipe, turbo and wastegate dumptube are in the pictures.

Start saving up for the group buy. I'll be posting it up in a few days. Pricing and more details will be posted up in the group buy. This thread is just for showing off. Enjoy!
[/quote

will it have/work with a water-cooled sprayer I/C?
what would be a good ECU to match with it?
i'm aiming for 400-500 whp on my gen6 GT (FF), this wouldn't have too much torque and cause instant wheel-spin or destroy the CV-Joints?

also, can i electronically set the level of RPM where it kicks in? is it possible to set it to boost at the flip of a switch?

This post has been edited by Detatch: Oct 2, 2009 - 8:41 AM

[baktasht]

will it have/work with a water-cooled sprayer I/C?
what would be a good ECU to match with it?
i'm aiming for 400-500 whp on my gen6 GT (FF), this wouldn't have too much torque and cause instant wheel-spin or destroy the CV-Joints?

also, can i electronically set the level of RPM where it kicks in? is it possible to set it to boost at the flip of a switch?

There have been MANY MANY revisions since this thread was posted. See here for the final version of the kit: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=69593

* It will work with any type of intercooler setup, including one with a sprayer
* You can run it on the stock ECU just fine, or upgrade to any of the aftermarket standalone ECU's or piggybacks for extra tuning capability
* It really depeneds on how you drive. There's lots of guys running around with 400+whp without any issues. For the most part you should be fine.

[Detatch]

will it have/work with a water-cooled sprayer I/C?
what would be a good ECU to match with it?
i'm aiming for 400-500 whp on my gen6 GT (FF), this wouldn't have too much torque and cause instant wheel-spin or destroy the CV-Joints?

also, can i electronically set the level of RPM where it kicks in? is it possible to set it to boost at the flip of a switch?

There have been MANY MANY revisions since this thread was posted. See here for the final version of the kit: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=69593

* It will work with any type of intercooler setup, including one with a sprayer
* You can run it on the stock ECU just fine, or upgrade to any of the aftermarket standalone ECU's or piggybacks for extra tuning capability
* It really depeneds on how you drive. There's lots of guys running around with 400+whp without any issues. For the most part you should be fine.

injectors (best performance)?
and link me to a boost controller that would work?

This post has been edited by Detatch: Oct 3, 2009 - 8:23 AM

[supershannon77]

any boost controller will work. I have been using the twosrus one.

[baktasht]

will it have/work with a water-cooled sprayer I/C?
what would be a good ECU to match with it?
i'm aiming for 400-500 whp on my gen6 GT (FF), this wouldn't have too much torque and cause instant wheel-spin or destroy the CV-Joints?

also, can i electronically set the level of RPM where it kicks in? is it possible to set it to boost at the flip of a switch?

There have been MANY MANY revisions since this thread was posted. See here for the final version of the kit: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=69593

* It will work with any type of intercooler setup, including one with a sprayer
* You can run it on the stock ECU just fine, or upgrade to any of the aftermarket standalone ECU's or piggybacks for extra tuning capability
* It really depeneds on how you drive. There's lots of guys running around with 400+whp without any issues. For the most part you should be fine.

injectors (best performance)?
and link me to a boost controller that would work?

Looks like shannon beat me to it. As she said, any boost controller will work fine.

[silverceli09]

i'm excited about this. i have been searching forever for something of this sort. =)

[SlvrCelica09]

kit is badazz

[6gtfour]

every day i login here hoping to see that someone with an ALL WHEEL drive ST205 gt four bolted on the S256 kit and wrote a review possibly throwing up a dyno sheet. What are you guys waiting for? I need someone to be the Guinea pig so that my installation would go without too many surprises. come on GT four guys BUY EEEEEET! PLEASE ???

[baktasht]

every day i login here hoping to see that someone with an ALL WHEEL drive ST205 gt four bolted on the S256 kit and wrote a review possibly throwing up a dyno sheet. What are you guys waiting for? I need someone to be the Guinea pig so that my installation would go without too many surprises. come on GT four guys BUY EEEEEET! PLEASE ???

I actually have an extra S256 kit that should be ready on Wed or Thurs that is unspoken for

[speed-CCNP]

I actually have an extra S256 kit that should be ready on Wed or Thurs that is unspoken for

Please email me.

[baktasht]

I actually have an extra S256 kit that should be ready on Wed or Thurs that is unspoken for

Please email me.

Replied.

[ajmorris1977]

sorry to ask a stupid question but i am a complete novice here, this kit will fit the 2.2 gt motor? what kind of money do i need to save? thanks...

[supershannon77]

Yea it will fit the 2.2 and he was having a thanksgiving sale. Here is the link tho http://www.emspowered.com/storefront/index...products_id=325

I forget the sale price it should be in the 6gc buying and selling tho.

[speed-CCNP]

Do you like your turbo? How does it spool up?

[_Jim_]

Do you like your turbo? How does it spool up?

Turbo is REDICULOUSSSSSSS! I LOVE IT. In fact I order 2 kits. One for Shannons car, and one for mine. They are the NICEST looking kit for the 3sgte I have seen, and the fact that it all fits under the stock heat shield with MINIMIAL cutting is AWESOME!!! I bought the S252 for Shannons car, and I was expecting som fair lag on it for such a large turbo....But that is the case.

The turbo spools instantly when driving. By the time You are done feathering the clutch out while normal street driving you can hear the turbo spooling up....AND IT IS LOUD. The Shannons car sounds like a jet plane. I have no recieved the External DP yet, so I cant report on spool time to full boost or supply dyno sheets, but that will come in due time.

Inital impression of the kit have EXCEEDED any expectaions, and I am thurely satisified...as I am sure you will be also.

[Mstoochn]

i must agree with jim here... these things are loud... and i mean LOUD... altho from me experience its a gr3071 not a s252. its almost the same turbo except for a small boost in top end. I was worried about just how loud it was on the street i swapped to a broader filter to keep the noise down a bit, it still scares kids at any intersection

[speed-CCNP]

I was looking at the S250. Do you think that is too small? I plan to use this as my daily driver .

[speed-CCNP]

I was looking at the S250. Do you think that is too small? I plan to use this as my daily driver .

I think the S250 will work for me.

[CastrolCelica]

I want this.. I want this so bad. I only pray there's some available still .

[baktasht]

I want this.. I want this so bad. I only pray there's some available still .

These kits are in full production now, and are available for order.

[3WayStunna]

Cool beans. Can fianlly get a nice turbo kit on the cheap for my engine re-build next year ^_^

[CastrolCelica]

I want this.. I want this so bad. I only pray there's some available still .

These kits are in full production now, and are available for order.

Great, if you could find the time to respond to my PM that would be great. I have a lot of questions for you, and I can't wait to get the ball rolling on this.

[_Jim_]

Any info needed, you can PM me also, as I have dealt with Baktash from the beginning on this kit and know everything from specs to pricing/availability.

This post has been edited by _Jim_: Dec 18, 2009 - 3:56 PM

[baktasht]

I want this.. I want this so bad. I only pray there's some available still .

These kits are in full production now, and are available for order.

Great, if you could find the time to respond to my PM that would be great. I have a lot of questions for you, and I can't wait to get the ball rolling on this.

I just double checked and I don't have a PM from you. Shoot me an email admin@emspowered.com or give me a call. PM'ing you phone numbers here in a minute.


Also, just to let everyone know I have one complete S252 kit and one complete S256 kit in stock right now that are ready to ship. They're both including polished turbine housing and polished compressor housing and a polished silver wastegate, and of course everything else in the kit (downpipe, hardware, screamer pipe, etc...) I'll take $100 off of the price, plus wont charge for polishing. That's a total of $290 of of the normal price. And I'll even ship for them for free within the US. All in all you'll be saving around $325-350 if you order one of these two that are in stock right now. I'll leave the offer out there either until they sell or undeil December 31st.

[supershannon77]

bump that's an awesome deal for an awesome kit!

[baktasht]

For anyone interested. Just posted a very limited sale on 2 kits that are in stock and ready to ship: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=71258

[96stgreendemon]

any chance of a 7afe lkit?

[baktasht]

any chance of a 7afe lkit?

Maybe, if we can get at least 10 seriously interested people with deposits.

[Johnnyny]

A 7afe kit would be interesting im sure there are ppl interested in it i know i could be

[CastrolCelica]

email coming your way.

[CastrolCelica]

Any info needed, you can PM me also, as I have dealt with Baktash from the beginning on this kit and know everything from specs to pricing/availability.

Thanks Jim. I emailed him, but if he doesn't respond you'll be getting a PM. I never received his PMs and my inbox isn't full, so I don't know what's going on...

[6gRob]

any chance of a 7afe lkit?

Maybe, if we can get at least 10 seriously interested people with deposits.

Me too if you make one give me a pm with details and price posted to the uk mainland.