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 Nov 1, 2003 - 8:45 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%)  |
hi my name is laura, i'm johns girlfriend. and...i'm really tired of the celica not working...so help him out guys...please...anyone who figures out how to get johns car working...um...gets an autographed thong...or...something.
 bever and jonathanvel this includes you!! love those of you that i know bunches, laura (johns girlfriend) -------------------- AIM==Mynzeyes
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Nov 1, 2003 - 10:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '02 From Sioux Falls, SD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Holy crap, for a minute I thought John had a boyfriend...
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Nov 1, 2003 - 10:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Details? "Not working" is very very hard to start at.
This post has been edited by Andason: Nov 1, 2003 - 10:56 PM -------------------- i am awesome
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Nov 1, 2003 - 11:10 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
John has an electrical problem. One of which has that yet to be determined therfore not much can be done to fix his car right now. I know he said Mike (Qatar11) is looking at his harness right now.
He has spark, he has gas and he has air but the car will not turn over and start. It has kicked over a few times but not started and now I think its not even doing that. Best thing we can do to help John for real is have a "Get John back on the road." fund............. And pray  -Bryan- -------------------- Member of Team 5sfTe
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Nov 2, 2003 - 12:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '02 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
john knows more than i do lol
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Nov 2, 2003 - 12:18 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
yeah, the car will fire, but then immediately dies. it could be anything from the AFM to the ECU to the ignitor to the vacuum system. i got no clue..and i'm losing interest and hope...so i haven't worked on it in well over a week.
 -John- edit: and Laura. .
-------------------- AIM==Mynzeyes
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Nov 2, 2003 - 3:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
John, do you want to try using that extra ecu that storm performance sent me? I'm pretty sure it's a ae92 afm, cuz it's like the same as your ecu. I'll ship it out to you and you can test it out if you like?
-Lemme Know mang.... You know i'm here 4 u mang... dont give up!! -Ryan -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld
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Nov 2, 2003 - 3:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not sure if this will help but when i was installing my remote start on my alarm, i forgot to connect one of the wires up to the second ingnition wire. the car would turn over and everything but just would not start. just throwing out suggestions. aside from that you will have to go to the estreme of problem solving. i hate to say it but the only way to fully rule out the wiring is to completely redo the wire harness. electrical work is the worst on a car. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Nov 2, 2003 - 10:46 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
You do have a the solenoid I am assuming. Car wont start w/o it.
Also sounds like maybe u have a fuel problem. perhaps bypass the fuel resistor and wire it straight? -------------------- |
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Nov 2, 2003 - 11:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
The Car is very much acting like the ECU is not taking over control of the engine after it cranks. There a few issues at work here. AE92 AFM diagrams are avaible NOWHERE for this friggin engine. we used a US MR2 4AGZE and a Corolla wiring diagram to do most of the work. This alone would have been suffiecient to insure that the harness will work. Having said that, there was a ECU connector that arrived cut from the harness AND completely de-pinned - since it was completey de-pinned and removed from the harness - unless we have the real wiring diagram book, there is no way to 100% garantee that all the pins required for operation are installed I have gotten my hands on a 1991 Supra Repair manual from the local dealership which includes troubleshooting a DLI system. However I can't scan 120 pages of it. I dunno maybe Roo can get his hands on the wiring diagram but he never gets back to me on anything i've ever asked him to order. Oh and my "help mike build a GT-Four" coffee can is looking a little empty right now <cough> This post has been edited by qatar11: Nov 2, 2003 - 11:22 AM -------------------- -Mike
mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Nov 2, 2003 - 11:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Franklin/Nashville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
done and done. we'll see if this helps. still gotta couple things i can look at. vacuum, ignition, timing, AFM, la la la la. -John- btw Ryan, if it's the ECU, and this one works, i'll need your address there at school, so me and Lo can send you your prize. and no, it's not one of MY thongs. 
-------------------- AIM==Mynzeyes
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Nov 3, 2003 - 2:01 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
John, Hold up Boy, im with you, but i dont know how to help you... HOLD UP, Dont GIve UP!!!
-------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Nov 3, 2003 - 10:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Tampa,Fl Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
maybe you checked this already but i want to throw this in the mix cause it was happening to me...and it took me like 2 weeks to find....Make sure you check your Circut Opening Relay. Making sure that it has the proper voltage to the terminals..what happned with me is that I had no voltage to one of the leads and it would crank but die instantly...the circut wasnt closing. anyway just a suggestion..AND MAKE SURE THE VACCUM IS GOOD TO GO...theese engines are very sensitve to vaccum leaks.
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Nov 8, 2003 - 12:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From TEXAS-1 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i don't know if that motor has a distributor or coil packs, but in case it has a distributor, you might want to peek inside and look for a condensor. my 5sfe had a fried wire, it went from the condensor to the internal coil, bolted on to the positive terminal on the coil. only about a 1.5 inches in length, right behind the top plug on the cap. they're only about $3 from toyota. hope this helps.
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Nov 8, 2003 - 11:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
ground points? check the afm, is there a way to test it? is the intake and ehaust hooked up? (my 7afte wouldnt run until right without a filter and my exhaust hooked up.) is the supercharger working correctly? id inspect that over... umm, is the igniton fireing in the correct order?...
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Nov 9, 2003 - 4:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Hey John
If you are curious about maybe trying the new AEM stand alone unit, drop me a PM, my Friends up in Tn do get AEM products for cheap... Jon |
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Nov 9, 2003 - 5:34 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 27, '02 From Barbados Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You did not mention other stuff like fuel pressure after starting.
Either way, try the ECU first if you can and let us know! We have found that majority of the 4ag ecu goes bad after some time down. But you are on the right path for troubleshooting. Also check the throttle sensor and correct harness wiring. -------------------- West_Minist
Hydra EMS Dealer & Tuner Subaru ECUFlash Tuner http://www.socob.bb http://xtremeracingtuning.com Viciously Tuned, Driven Hard  |
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Nov 9, 2003 - 8:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '03 From Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
John! Oh, one of the great fathers of 6GC! Hehe. Man, DON'T give up. I swear, I will make the trip to TN by myself. First, I'll beat you up, steal Laura's thongs, and then you'll give me a ride back up here in your newly SC'ed Celica!
 . Just kidding man. But the thing is, you know much more about this stuff than me. The answer is there! Its probably something really simple. I hope you find it soon. Good luck, man.
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Nov 10, 2003 - 5:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 6, '03 From Fairbanks AK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i'm just throwing this out 'cause i wanna help, but i had a similar problem with my truck which is ancient btw and this might not even be applicable. anyway there were two sources of power to the distributor one for starting and one for running the starting voltage came right off the 12 volt ignition, but while running it went through a ballast resistor to drop it down to about 8 volts. and i had a loose connection so it would catch at first but as soon as you let the key go it died. don't think it'll help but hey.
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