Celica Twin Turbo Options

[1994Celica]

is it possible to hook up twin turbos in my celica.

[FunkySR]

with money anything is possible.

[pittfirefighter]

why would you? you get more power from a single turbo...

[1994Celica]

with money anything is possible.

Well I'm asking because my brother has a wrx and I want to compete race wise. but I'm not sure I want to do anything to my orginal engine

[FunkySR]

Will be a bit difficult to do on a 6gc. And does your bro have a twin turbo EJ or a twin scroll turbo? You can match him in the 6gc with some serious weight loss and good choice of mods.

[1994Celica]

why would you? you get more power from a single turbo...

I want two so I can compete with my friends rx7 twin turbo

Will be a bit difficult to do on a 6gc. And does your bro have a twin turbo EJ or a twin scroll turbo? You can match him in the 6gc with some serious weight loss and good choice of mods.

no I thinks its all sstock single turbo wrx but its still pretty fast

[95CelicaST]

Dear god, two turbos doesn't mean twice the power. One is a small turbo to spool in low RPM, and the other is bigger to power mid and high RPM. Your brother's WRX is heavy. Swap a 3SGTE into your celica with limited slip and you'll beat him... hopefully. Subarus perform well in drag situations due to AWD.

Your friend's RX7 is an unreliable pile of garbage.

Your 5SFE won't go too fast without dropping major money, so save up 6-8 grand and swap in a 3SGTE. Problem solved.

[1994Celica]

Dear god, two turbos doesn't mean twice the power. One is a small turbo to spool in low RPM, and the other is bigger to power mid and high RPM. Your brother's WRX is heavy. Swap a 3SGTE into your celica with limited slip and you'll beat him... hopefully. Subarus perform well in drag situations due to AWD.

Your friend's RX7 is an unreliable pile of garbage.

Your 5SFE won't go too fast without dropping major money, so save up 6-8 grand and swap in a 3SGTE. Problem solved.

Thats the major deal the money and I dont know if I want to destroy the orginality of my celica. Its mainly the money I've already droped 3600 into it for repairs.

[3WayStunna]

Take an beams 3sge and supercharge it. There is something for originality ^_^. But seriously man, try to set a better goal or aim for yourself, beside trying to just beat your brothers car. Thats an easy way to set your self up for disappointment.

[97celiman]

just buy some ebay ecu chips and call it a day...


for cereal though... no twin turbo, and i'm just guessing that considering you say money is an issue, just worry about keeping the car running.
in the meantime read around and realize how expensive and challenging it is to squeeze power out of our cars

[1994Celica]

Take an beams 3sge and supercharge it. There is something for originality ^_^. But seriously man, try to set a better goal or aim for yourself, beside trying to just beat your brothers car. Thats an easy way to set your self up for disappointment.

Its not just that I want a faster celica without buying a supra

[96stgreendemon]

you do not need a twin turbo just drive the car, this is my opinion, if your going to drive the car everyday thats really not pratical. now say your just going to use it as a drag car then yes this is ok, but here is my thought, you can only go 70 mph without getting a ticket and our cars are already cop magnets, just drive the car end of story. but hey thats my opinion i will just stick to my 7afe

[garin]

Dear god, two turbos doesn't mean twice the power. One is a small turbo to spool in low RPM, and the other is bigger to power mid and high RPM. Your brother's WRX is heavy. Swap a 3SGTE into your celica with limited slip and you'll beat him... hopefully. Subarus perform well in drag situations due to AWD.

Your friend's RX7 is an unreliable pile of garbage.

Your 5SFE won't go too fast without dropping major money, so save up 6-8 grand and swap in a 3SGTE. Problem solved.

haha... rx7's do kinda fail.

[95CelicaST]

just buy some ebay ecu chips and call it a day...


for cereal though... no twin turbo, and i'm just guessing that considering you say money is an issue, just worry about keeping the car running.
in the meantime read around and realize how expensive and challenging it is to squeeze power out of our cars

And this is why I bought a WRX.... and then a MR2.

[MaskedMan]

Why did you drop $3600 into repairs? That's more than what the car is worth. Simply put, if you don't want to spend a lot of money, you're not going to be able to beat a WRX or RX-7. Sure the RX-7 has reliability issues, but it's a quick car none the less. 3sgte is your best option for price and performance. Reason being is because if you turbo your 5sfe, maybe, just maybe you'd be able to win one race (on a track of course). But it would be a lot easier for them to bump their power up from that point, compared to the 5sfe turbo. You'd have to put a lot more money into a 5sfe turbo to get it to the "next step", so in the end, it would have been cheaper to go with the 3sgte over the 5sfte.

With all that aside though, you shouldn't build your car just so you can beat someone else.

[Mstoochn]

*scratches head*
4cylinders.. 1 exhaust manifold.... it makes logical sense to use one turbo... infact unless im missing something within twin or symetrical turbo design... you would hurt your performance with 2 (spool wise, and lack of space for bigger turbo)

5s-gte is the way to go if u got CACHING! $$$$

This post has been edited by Mstoochn: Dec 14, 2009 - 11:18 PM

[lagos]

You should do 4 turbos. One for each cylinder.

[95CelicaST]

That would be pretty JDM.

[97celiman]

You should do 4 turbos. One for each cylinder.

if you did that plus the ebay ecu chips and e-charge it that would not only be unique and straight ballin but also one of a kind.
and lol @ 95celicast...i've pretty much stopped caring...got a few more aesthetic mods then i'm just gunna drive it till it falls apart...i like the car and the lines, but the whole fwd, crap engine business is bleh...unless autoxing then maybe...but i would rather have a mini for fwd...but that's completely off topic and i am rambling

[markie]

You should do 4 turbos. One for each cylinder.

lagos always has the best posts!

[nics]

Its not just that I want a faster celica without buying a supra

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA

[MaskedMan]

You should do 4 turbos. One for each cylinder.

I think he should twin turbo each cylinder.

[Mstoochn]

throw the veyron engine in a celica? but for the love of god please turn up the boost..... stupid europeans

[cardshark525]

throw the veyron engine in a celica? but for the love of god please turn up the boost..... stupid europeans

I would love to see what kind of Frankenstein one of our Celica's would look like if you put an 8.0L quad turbo W16 engine in it. lol

Then again... if you stripped the interior and mounted it where the rear seats meet the trunk....

I dunno what would be more hilarious... how it looked or the fact that you'd spin your tires at WOT till about 170MPH.

At which point you and your passenger could stick your arms out the window and take off... lol

OK, I'm done.

This post has been edited by cardshark525: Dec 15, 2009 - 2:54 AM

[Promasta]

Why did you drop $3600 into repairs? That's more than what the car is worth.

lol gtfo. I've spent over $20000 on the celica and it's pretty much stock.

[MaskedMan]

Why did you drop $3600 into repairs? That's more than what the car is worth.

lol gtfo. I've spent over $20000 on the celica and it's pretty much stock.

Haha how did you spend $20000 on a stock Celica

[Promasta]

car-10000
paint-2200
wheels-1400
clutch-900
body kit scam-800
garbage skirts-350
trd splitters-350
first tires-700
second tires-700
projectors-700
coilovers-500
AC repair+recharge-400
first deck-200
second deck-350
subs-200
amp-350
brakes-200
ebrake fix-150
SRI-100

[MaskedMan]

car-10000
paint-2200
wheels-1400
clutch-900
body kit scam-800
garbage skirts-350
trd splitters-350
first tires-700
second tires-700
projectors-700
coilovers-500
AC repair+recharge-400
first deck-200
second deck-350
subs-200
amp-350
brakes-200
ebrake fix-150
SRI-100

Oh, you're right, I forgot about that body kit scam. You forgot to add in the amount of money for everytime you put fuel in your car.

[Promasta]

lol ok but its still too bloody much

oh well, next $10k i should be swapped

no twin tarbo tho

[ETNRIDER]

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA
[/quote]

That is the video I pull out when people say "all celicas are slow"
I would sell a Kidney for that car!

Drain your brothers oil then challenge him to a 5 mile race!
other than that you have a tough road ahead to beat him.

[nics]

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA

That is the video I pull out when people say "all celicas are slow"
I would sell a Kidney for that car!

Drain your brothers oil then challenge him to a 5 mile race!
other than that you have a tough road ahead to beat him.

i always post that video cuz i find it very inspirational

[x_itchy_b_x]

one for every cylinder would actually be awesome lol. but how about 5 turbos, 4 small ones on each cylinder then a huge 1 after all 4!

[CastrolCelica]

Screw it all, just ditch the engine itself and fit as many turbos as you can in the engine bay..........................wait.

[flyinglizard]

This thread is full of win

[Mstoochn]

electric motors immediately hit WOT/MAX RPM.... so if u reli want to beat someone.... look into a 32,000RPM electric motor and sort of tranny with silly gear ratio's.... oh not to mention you'll need a dozen 120v Lithium Polymer batteries just for one race.... But you SHOULD beat him... just dont race at night as interior/exterior lighting will make u lose tons of power

..yea out of hand

[95CelicaST]

Pull the motor and power the car with small asians. You'll win every time. I promise. Think of 16 small asians under the hood - each one with their own turbo. That's 14 more turbos than what you originally wanted!

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Dec 15, 2009 - 6:39 PM

[1994Celica]

Why did you drop $3600 into repairs? That's more than what the car is worth. Simply put, if you don't want to spend a lot of money, you're not going to be able to beat a WRX or RX-7. Sure the RX-7 has reliability issues, but it's a quick car none the less. 3sgte is your best option for price and performance. Reason being is because if you turbo your 5sfe, maybe, just maybe you'd be able to win one race (on a track of course). But it would be a lot easier for them to bump their power up from that point, compared to the 5sfe turbo. You'd have to put a lot more money into a 5sfe turbo to get it to the "next step", so in the end, it would have been cheaper to go with the 3sgte over the 5sfte.

With all that aside though, you shouldn't build your car just so you can beat someone else.

Well I got the car for 850 and the kid who had it before me screwed up the transmission and then the timeing belt went.

[cardshark525]

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA

That is the video I pull out when people say "all celicas are slow"
I would sell a Kidney for that car!

Drain your brothers oil then challenge him to a 5 mile race!
other than that you have a tough road ahead to beat him.

i always post that video cuz i find it very inspirational

The numbers in those videos are highly exaggerated I have to say. From the start of each race it takes the GT-4 an even 10 seconds to get to the camera that's down the track.
Now if this was truly measured to 402 meters (1/4 mile) then at that speed the Celica would be passing the camera while going about 143 MPH.
Just to give you an idea of a real comparison... look at this video and go to about 1:20 in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gZF9EeIpY...feature=related

The skyline is going 205mph, the camera car is going 90mph, for a difference of 115mph.
Now imagine if that GT-4 video is legit and is is really passing the guy with the camera at 140mph... he would be blown off the road.

If I had to wager a guess I would say the GT-4 has about 350-400 hp, the STI is probably stock, and the Supra is running around 450-500 hp.
The GT-4 looks like a beauty but it is hardly the 600 hp monster that the video claims.

Here... is the Barbaris Celica running low 9's. This is what I show people who say Celica's are slow lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwt3Q1lx1k...feature=related


As to the 2...4... 8 turbo's for our Celica's how about this to save money.
Get a CAI and just re-pipe it. You see you remove your entire exhaust except your header, and then connect the CAI straight to your header.
Not only do you add horsepower but you now have a 0 emissions vehicle.



Seriously though, you are probably in the same position that I am right now. In school, broke, and driving a car that you'd love to turn into a project. I have upgraded minimal things as they have gone. Intake, header, clutch, brake pads and rotors, tires. But I have no illusions of high HP from a daily driver when I'm a college student. If you love your car that much wait it out, learn the ins and outs of it so you can do ANY needed repair, upgrade lightly as things break, and then after you've got a real world job see if its still something you're interested in making a project.

This post has been edited by cardshark525: Dec 15, 2009 - 6:51 PM

[SwissFerdi]

Seriously though, you are probably in the same position that I am right now. In school, broke, and driving a car that you'd love to turn into a project. I have upgraded minimal things as they have gone. Intake, header, clutch, brake pads and rotors, tires. But I have no illusions of high HP from a daily driver when I'm a college student. If you love your car that much wait it out, learn the ins and outs of it so you can do ANY needed repair, upgrade lightly as things break, and then after you've got a real world job see if its still something you're interested in making a project.

Most sound advice in this thread...I wholeheartedly agree.

[lagos]

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA

That is the video I pull out when people say "all celicas are slow"
I would sell a Kidney for that car!

Drain your brothers oil then challenge him to a 5 mile race!
other than that you have a tough road ahead to beat him.

i always post that video cuz i find it very inspirational

The numbers in those videos are highly exaggerated I have to say. From the start of each race it takes the GT-4 an even 10 seconds to get to the camera that's down the track.
Now if this was truly measured to 402 meters (1/4 mile) then at that speed the Celica would be passing the camera while going about 143 MPH.
Just to give you an idea of a real comparison... look at this video and go to about 1:20 in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gZF9EeIpY...feature=related

The skyline is going 205mph, the camera car is going 90mph, for a difference of 115mph.
Now imagine if that GT-4 video is legit and is is really passing the guy with the camera at 140mph... he would be blown off the road.

If I had to wager a guess I would say the GT-4 has about 350-400 hp, the STI is probably stock, and the Supra is running around 450-500 hp.
The GT-4 looks like a beauty but it is hardly the 600 hp monster that the video claims.

Here... is the Barbaris Celica running low 9's. This is what I show people who say Celica's are slow lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwt3Q1lx1k...feature=related


As to the 2...4... 8 turbo's for our Celica's how about this to save money.
Get a CAI and just re-pipe it. You see you remove your entire exhaust except your header, and then connect the CAI straight to your header.
Not only do you add horsepower but you now have a 0 emissions vehicle.



Seriously though, you are probably in the same position that I am right now. In school, broke, and driving a car that you'd love to turn into a project. I have upgraded minimal things as they have gone. Intake, header, clutch, brake pads and rotors, tires. But I have no illusions of high HP from a daily driver when I'm a college student. If you love your car that much wait it out, learn the ins and outs of it so you can do ANY needed repair, upgrade lightly as things break, and then after you've got a real world job see if its still something you're interested in making a project.

1. the 2 cameras are not synched in any way. Just an edit job for looks.
2. there is a video of that car on the net doing 180mph before running out of gear.
3. I think the claimed 600hp is at the crank, and also greatly depends on pump or race gas use.

[95CelicaST]

You're pretty new, so I won't beat you up too bad....

www.6gc.net/members/tufy

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:08 PM

[cardshark525]

You're pretty new, so I won't beat you up too bad....

www.6gc.net/members/tufy

Is there a reason to beat up on me?

I never took anything away from the car however I did say that it wasn't 600 hp and was closer to 400 which in his profile Tufy states.


This post has been edited by cardshark525: Dec 15, 2009 - 7:16 PM

[nics]

just a reminder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA

That is the video I pull out when people say "all celicas are slow"
I would sell a Kidney for that car!

Drain your brothers oil then challenge him to a 5 mile race!
other than that you have a tough road ahead to beat him.

i always post that video cuz i find it very inspirational

The numbers in those videos are highly exaggerated I have to say. From the start of each race it takes the GT-4 an even 10 seconds to get to the camera that's down the track.
Now if this was truly measured to 402 meters (1/4 mile) then at that speed the Celica would be passing the camera while going about 143 MPH.
Just to give you an idea of a real comparison... look at this video and go to about 1:20 in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gZF9EeIpY...feature=related

The skyline is going 205mph, the camera car is going 90mph, for a difference of 115mph.
Now imagine if that GT-4 video is legit and is is really passing the guy with the camera at 140mph... he would be blown off the road.

If I had to wager a guess I would say the GT-4 has about 350-400 hp, the STI is probably stock, and the Supra is running around 450-500 hp.
The GT-4 looks like a beauty but it is hardly the 600 hp monster that the video claims.

Here... is the Barbaris Celica running low 9's. This is what I show people who say Celica's are slow lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwt3Q1lx1k...feature=related


As to the 2...4... 8 turbo's for our Celica's how about this to save money.
Get a CAI and just re-pipe it. You see you remove your entire exhaust except your header, and then connect the CAI straight to your header.
Not only do you add horsepower but you now have a 0 emissions vehicle.



Seriously though, you are probably in the same position that I am right now. In school, broke, and driving a car that you'd love to turn into a project. I have upgraded minimal things as they have gone. Intake, header, clutch, brake pads and rotors, tires. But I have no illusions of high HP from a daily driver when I'm a college student. If you love your car that much wait it out, learn the ins and outs of it so you can do ANY needed repair, upgrade lightly as things break, and then after you've got a real world job see if its still something you're interested in making a project.

do you always trust what they say on youtube?

my only point on the vid is the gt-four wins

This post has been edited by nics: Dec 15, 2009 - 8:48 PM

[nics]

You're pretty new, so I won't beat you up too bad....

www.6gc.net/members/tufy

Is there a reason to beat up on me?

no reason. he's still in denial and thinks he runs this place. in other words another phony.

[presure2]

wow.
and that is all i will say.