Finishes turbo system, got on a Dyno Options

[Smaay]

Well I finally got around to building turbo pipes. that all went fairly smooth. It was tough trying to figure out the routing, i didnt want to go over the head like most FMIC setups. So i clocked the turbo down and went the way i did.

So on the dyno, I ran into the same issue that the Scion is running into with the AEM FIC. We were hitting a block at 4000 RPM,s the car would just shut off. After a quick run to Radio Shack, picked up some 1K ohm resistors and fixed the problem. ill post pics of that later if wanted. The AEM FIC is a good unit and it works well. i need to go back and finish some fine tuning. im getting a lean condition at throttle tip in.

So with that said and done, i made 176HP and 230lbs TQ at 6.5psi. im on the stock exhaust after the ebay downpipe so i really need to open that up. i plan on upping the boost to about 10psi.













This post has been edited by Smaay: Jan 5, 2010 - 11:38 AM

[95st-celica]

pics not working homie

[Smaay]

should be working now

[manphibian]

no

[Smaay]

wierd i can see them. try looking here

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthrea...81#post30067081

[presure2]

lookin good man!
thats a greddy type s BOV? steff has one, i really like the way they sound.

[spitfiremk16]

mind if i ask what the resisitor is for? i plan on using an aem fic on my car and was wondering what you needed them for?

[Smaay]

no its a micky mouse BOV. i get the pipe kits from this guy for the turbo systems i build.

http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?S...egory_Code=PIPK

the resistor mod is needed because the toyota sensors are "dirty" there is alot of noise on them and it causes problems. the resistor acts like a filter.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3410207

[spitfiremk16]

checked out the pics and i like the piping, that kit is top notch, it looks very clean with the turbo clocked down, could you also give us a link to where you got the bov?

[Smaay]

i did, the above link where i got the pipes.

[Smaay]

added the dyno to first post

[GriffGirl]

That's a really clean, nice looking build! Is that a custom intake plenum, or where'd that come from? Fuel rail, too, is that a custom rail? What size injectors are in there? Well for that matter, what size/spec everything do you have in there?

The only thing that sticks out as odd to me is the placement of the o2 sensor, but I'm basing that purely on aesthetics. Did it have to go right on top there like that? It just seems kind of haphazard, with the wiring strung across the way it is. Or maybe it's just my OCD being rubbed wrong lol (this is a learning process, so bear with me!)

[jeffrosie]

Looks like your water pipes for turbo cooling are not connected.
Other than that, lookin good.
Get a heatsheild on that manifold too.

[Smaay]

That's a really clean, nice looking build! Is that a custom intake plenum, or where'd that come from? Fuel rail, too, is that a custom rail? What size injectors are in there? Well for that matter, what size/spec everything do you have in there?

thats the stock 5S-FE intake manifold, the fuel rail is stock too. im using the RX7 460 injectors, then engine is totally stock. i just rebuilt it when i bought the car.

The only thing that sticks out as odd to me is the placement of the o2 sensor, but I'm basing that purely on aesthetics. Did it have to go right on top there like that? It just seems kind of haphazard, with the wiring strung across the way it is. Or maybe it's just my OCD being rubbed wrong lol (this is a learning process, so bear with me!)

thats normal on the 3S-GTE. thats the Ebay downpipe

[whatthe]

Oh man looking sick. I want to join this 5sfte club.

[D_Dawg]

Will you be relocating the oil filter?

[Smaay]

i dont have a plan to relocate it.

[bmj67]

did you dl your new tune from the fic

[Smaay]

not yet, i guess ican do that real quick for everyone.

[Smaay]

Here is my FIC MAP









Analog A is the OEM MAP sensor that we are clamping. any small change there and we had to re-tune the fuel map.

This post has been edited by Smaay: Jan 12, 2010 - 12:48 PM

[FunkySR]

is it just me or is your fuel map a bit jumpy. I tend to use the same value across the whole row. I have the FIC for my 7afte also.

One thing....I also have this rather annoying misfire on idle and part throttle (lioght load). Nothing i do cures it. I have changed gaskets, injectors, earth, fuel pressure regulator...NOTHING. What's this with resistors.

J

[Smaay]

try pulling some timing

[FunkySR]

I read somewhere that I did not need to adjust timing so I just tapped into it for a reading. I will be doing the resistor mod this weekend and I will rewire to intercept crank signal.

J

[Smaay]

on an NA engine and you dont need to pull timing with boost? seriously? whoever told you that, slap them!

[FunkySR]

ok, by the by. I will sort the timing out....but this misfire / hesitation is way before boost. even on idle. it's intermittent. car has driven fine for 2 years now with turbo.

All I wanna know is how to do the resistor mod for the 7afe.

Much thanks.

J

[Smaay]

do it the same way i guess. read the link i posted earlier. just do the CRK MAG I +/-

[Smaay]

Talking to Jim the other day enlightened me. i guess the factory ECU is really good at controlling knock and pulling timing. i might adjust my MAP a little and not be so conservative on my timing. the big killer is teh cams. as you can see i hit peak power at like 3400 RPM's

well im considering dropping in a ST205 WRC setup in the car. so this all might be moooo like a cows opinion, it dont matter lol

[Mstoochn]

Talking to Jim the other day enlightened me. i guess the factory ECU is really good at controlling knock and pulling timing. i might adjust my MAP a little and not be so conservative on my timing. the big killer is teh cams. as you can see i hit peak power at like 3400 RPM's

well im considering dropping in a ST205 WRC setup in the car. so this all might be moooo like a cows opinion, it dont matter lol

no need to swap, just grab a ge head and street cams PM me for dyno sheet!

[Smaay]

i was thinking about that. what head 3S-GE or 3S-GTE

[bccentaur3]

Looks like he means 3sge head. Thats what I'm currently on with my 5sgte set-up. Had to replace the head due to issues.

[Mstoochn]

Looks like he means 3sge head. Thats what I'm currently on with my 5sgte set-up. Had to replace the head due to issues.

yes ge head, 264 BC cams were my choosing, your choice of management is where the $$$ will eat you.

[Smaay]

well i better start doing research. does the 5S manifold match up? blah blah

[Mstoochn]

well i better start doing research. does the 5S manifold match up? blah blah

could use it, but the 3s intake mani gives u more space to work with

[Smaay]

well after reading through this, i think im gonna pass on the GE head. http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17078 i am considering a set of webcams. or whatever Pressure2 has in his car.

[bccentaur3]

Thats a gen 1 3sge head. Thats what I'm using on my car with a gen 1 3sge sidefeed intake manifold too. The gen 1 and 2 3sgte turbo manifold will bolt right up. If you plan on using the gen 2 3sge head, I believe you can only get it overseas, that will accept the gen 2 turbo and intake manifold. Now if you use a gen 3 3sge head, You will have to use gen 3 turbo and intake manifold. I guess you could use the stock gen 3 3sge intake manifold, but would you want to deal with acis?

But if you just plan on having a fun car and not make 350 horses, why not build up the 5s right?

[Smaay]

uummm yeah! im definatly not going to mess with all that crap. im not looking for ANOTHER high HP car. i have 3 already ha ha ha


im having fun with the car as it is

[GriffGirl]

I hate that you have every car that I really, truly, genuinely want. When I come down there I'm going to leave with one of them, and it's not going to be the one I drove down in

[Smaay]

you have to get down here first

[GriffGirl]

I might be in vegas at the end of the month, don't you need a vacation?

[Smaay]

Vegas baby! i dont know if i posted it on here, but i turned the boost up to 10 psi and let me tell you its so AWESOME!!!!! its nothing like my 7th gen, but this is fun