WHAT TYPE OF MOTOR I HAVE IN MY CAR? Options

[nintyfourcelicam...]

I JUST BOUGHT MY CAR AND THE GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM HAD SAID THAT HE PAID SOMEONE TO INSTALL AND DO ALL OF THE MOTOR WORK FOR HIM...NOT MECHANICALLY INCLINED AT ALL!!! ANYWAY THE MOTOR IS SUPPOSALLY BOUGHT FROM SOMEONE ON EBAY AND WAS FROM JAPAN WITH ONLY 30,000 MILES ON IT...IT IS NOT TURBO...SO ARE THERE NUMBERS ON IT OR ANY TYPE OF JAPENSE STAMPS THAT I CAN LOOK FOR TO DISCOVER WHAT MOTOR IS IN MY CAR?? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR COMMENTS... I OWN LEXUSES BUT THIS IS MY FIRST TOYOTA...4 CYLINDER!!!

[OOBE]

Can you take a picture of it? That would be the best way to help you out.

[SwissFerdi]

It says 2.0 engine swap in your profile, so if it's not turbo, then I think it's a 3S-GE.

[bccentaur3]

Or more than likely a 3sfe.. if you feel zero power when you punch it, its a 3sfe

[Smaay]

yeah a picture will make a world of difference

[cheela]

it would only help w pictures.

[joehernandez]

sorry no pictures we can't tell.
its like saying "what rims does my car has? and only giving a description"

[bmj67]

I'm going to take a guess and say its a toyota engine. you need pics

[nintyfourcelicam...]

haha...sorry guys...i willl get pics and post them for tommrow...thanks for the comments... along with the pictures are there any other information that i can get off the motor to help you ??? thanks again on trying to help me figure this out...Also.. why would you take out a stock 2.2 motor and replace it with a 2.0 motor??

[Mstoochn]

2.0 3s-ge makes alot more power than 2.2L 5s-fe

[SwissFerdi]

Well the 5S-FE (stock GT motor) is geared towards economy, while the 3S-GE is geared toward performance.

[nintyfourcelicam...]

Hmmm... interesting thanks SwissFerdi... im new to these motors and i see alll types of numbers and i dont know what they all mean.... thank you forthe clarification.

[SwissFerdi]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24821

Start reading that, there's another thread I need to dig up as well.

[SlvrCelica09]

from japan.. 2.0 Liter.. 4 cylinder.. N/A.. smells like 3sge to me

[trdproven]

yea but there is also a 3sfe 2.0l from japan in the celicas, looks identical to a 5sfe externally only the displacement is different, again if there is not good power in it, then thats what it could be a 3sfe. but pics are your best bet.

[bccentaur3]

^ thats what I have been trying to say all along. maybe the PO blew up the motor some how and couldn't afford another 5s, instead he opted for the ebay special a jdm 3sfe. No unless he had a bit more money and saw that a 3rd gen jdm 3sge goes for maybe a little more than a 97+ 5sfe and picked that up.

[nintyfourcelicam...]

Ok everyone...I took some pictures of my cars engine...I wasn't too sure of what parts you all wanted me to photograph so i just took a few off the top and the left side of the motor...i don't know if this helps but i see some red paint on the side of the head on the right side of the motor ??? also there is a yellow sticker that is stuck to the valvecover that says... "CSE 886-603546" and has a bar code above it???? The guy that i bought it from said that it was a motor out of a 1991 camery from japan...but as i said before he really isn't too sure about what was done because he just put the money up to have the car built... I hope this helps you all, to help me!!! again Thank you!!!.....

OK....SO I AM AN IDIOT!!! I TOOK 8 PICTURES AND THEY ARE SAVED IN MY PICTURE FOLDER ON MY COMPUTER....HOW DO I GET THEM PUT IN HERE??? SORRY EVERYONE...I'M NOT TO COMPUTER SMART!! lol

[95CelicaST]

Create an account on www.photobucket.com and upload them. Then you take the IMG code and paste it here.

And if it is out of an old Camry then its a 3S-FE.

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Feb 1, 2010 - 2:55 PM

[nintyfourcelicam...]

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[nintyfourcelicam...]

i give up!! lol....can someone PLEASE tell me how to tranfer photos from photobucket to here PLEASE!!! the first try i cut n paste n it said that i cant send "IMG code" here.... so this time i try cut n paste "HTML code"...i will try the "DIRECT LINK"...I'm trying people

[nintyfourcelicam...]

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/n...man/engine1.jpg

[chacha]

u need a new engine...it looks like a regular 5sfe

[nintyfourcelicam...]

how are you ablle to see it?? i cant forward the images from photo bucket??

[blu94gt]

It looks like you have a 3s-fe with a 5s-fe intake manifold. The valve cover says 2.0 16 valve, which would be the 2 litre 3s-fe motor, but the intake manifold says Toyota 2200 which is off of the 5sfe.

Summary: From what I can see you have a 3s-fe engine.

how are you ablle to see it?? i cant forward the images from photo bucket??

Forgot to add, can see if you copy just the URL out of when he tried to link the photos. I'll link them though.

[nintyfourcelicam...]

[nintyfourcelicam...]

oh..i just figured it out and you beat me to it...lol anyway what does everyone think??? why would someone put a 2.0 motor in a place where a 2.2 motor was even if it is a JDM motor from Japan...why keep the 2.2 intake??? all suggestions are welcomed and thanks for all of the help getting me to here so far!!!

[95CelicaST]

Nasty motor. Looks like the previous owner blew up the 5SFE, so they dropped in a 3SFE block and kept the 5S intake manifold and probably all of the other 5S bits. Not a performance upgrade at all. Its just a cheap replacement motor. You should pressure wash that engine bay and replace the valve cover with a non corroded one. Then you'll have a nice setup.


Also, the sticker on the valve cover is most likely just there for whoever sold the motor to keep inventory. You can get rid of it.

[nintyfourcelicam...]

ok...so you think it is a JDM 3s-fe... which produces 115bhp/178Nm....
but....a stock GT 5g-fe... produces 135bph/196Nm...(info taken from .celicagt.nl/info.html)
Why even go JDM??? You lose power doing that!!!! Ok...everyone...I am dissappointed with what I have in there...what are my options with this motor??? can i do a turbo/Intercooler?? Nitrous??...I don't want to a motor swap, so I guess that i willl have to make this work....I am open to ALL suggestions!! Thank you all again!

[95CelicaST]

Basically anything you can do to the 5S you can do to yours. Use the search function and look for "5sfte".

[bccentaur3]

please use common sense and try not to go F/I on this motor. Not a good platform to start off with.

[nintyfourcelicam...]

Thanks for the advice...i will peel off that stupid sticker, and the motor will be powerwashed and detailed...the car sat for over two years out side...I guess that the guy ran out of money and his friend who was working on the car died...it became a mouse n snake nest out in the corner of this guys property!!!! I bought the car as you see it in my profile for $1350.00...i have taken the interior out of the car to give it a good cleaning and shampoo the carpet and seats...the trunk is all apart and was bleached and cleaned today The car smells horrible!!!...i had to replace the fuel filter and the fuel pump to get the thing running to drive it home...also the brakes were shot from sitting so new Brembo Rotors, pads, shoes and brake hardware was installed just a couple of hours ago... tomorrow the windows will be tinted, the tail lights will be tinted and a detailed bath to remove the build up of dirt n grim in all the door and trunk jams and the edges...got to clean it well before i buff it out!!! Oh...and the heater box has to be dropped and removedand cleaned!!!... hopefully the last mouse nest that is in the car!! I can't even turn on my heater or defoster!!!! I hear...clunk, clunk, clunk...Ewww!!!

[trdproven]

yes it is a jdm motor but not one to be proud of or anything, it is a lower displacement of the 5s.

[Smaay]

poor engine, it looks like it was stored in a salt mine. but it sounds like you are well on the way to restoration. you should definatly look into a 3S-GTE swap. if you are putting that much effort in the interior. spend some more $$$ for a good engine upgrade

[Rusty]

just though I'd add a 3sfe pic

theres a bit of difference between them

[SwissFerdi]

^ I guess 3S series engines all have the same intake manifold, it looks the same as the 3S-GE.

[Rusty]

3rd gen 3sge coils over the head for the acis, vvti 3sge is a bit more similar, but i think is bigger and has velocity stacks inside

[bccentaur3]

That 3sfe intake manifold looks like the 5sfe intake manifold. gen 1 3sge has almost the same size runners with tvis and side feed. Gen 2 and 3 non beams 3sge has short runners to the acis and then over the valve cover. Beams is a very distinct intake manifold.

[DGAF]

It's a Toyota engine nonetheless and you can bet you will have motor for a wile