Is it possible to achieve awd 3sgte daily driver in california? Options

[st94]

I have been looking into swapping my 1994 ST 1.8L w/ auto tranny for a jdm 3sgte. Is it possible to use with awd tranny in CA?
I am aware that the Japanese do not have EGR systems. Is it possible to use a intake manifold and egr system from a close relitive in california for smog purposes?
Will the gt-4's gas tank mount in the same spot on the 6G st?
I wish to achieve awd, is their a large problem that I am overlooking? Because not many people are doing this it seems..
Is it because lack of drivetrain/suspension parts in the US?
Is their holes to accomidate the driveline bracket?
Cat converter?
exauhst, will it get in the way of the driveline?
I am assuming the front ST halfshafts wont spline up with the jdm tranny?
Will I be able to use the front hub assembly?
How would I cope with the rear diff between the rear halfshafts?

This post has been edited by st94: Mar 4, 2010 - 11:35 PM

[Hanyo]

Hi welcome to the board.

All the issues your bring up can be easily solved once you get the awd drive train in. The st/gt celica has the same frame from the back of the driver seat on forward.

The main problem you will face with an AWD conversion is getting the rear end suspension welded in properly. You need to consider when you cut out the stock rear-end to make room for the AWD parts; you are modifying the unibody and frame. If you can find someone who is skilled enough to do that, then everything else would be a breeze.

to answer your questions:

Since you have a 94st you must put in a 94+ mr2 turbo 3sgte in order to be bar and smog legal. You need to transfer all the mr2 emission stuff over. The jdm motor will not work because of the egr and the ecu can not be BAR. Bar and smog does not check what transmission you use.

The gas tank will mount up according to how you modified your car. Everything from the driver seat back will have to be custom to make the car AWD. Some people use a gt4 subframe so everything from a gt4 will transfer over. Others custom made a rear subframe therefore they had to use a fuel cell. In order to pass the bar you must use a OEM gas tank. Depending no how anal the bar inspector is, they might let you slide with a gt4 gas tank. In order to officially pass smog and bar you must use a MR2 gas tank.

The exhaust will run the same route as gt4's exhaust. After all the gt4 already has awd and an exhaust.

The st axles will not work. You will need hybrid axles, basically you will be using gt4 awd axles mixed with st axles.

you should be able to use the ST hub assemble.

how you cope with the rear diff and half shaft depends on how well you source your parts and how good you can fabricate everything.


To conclude you questions. You have two routes to go. the first route is to weld in the GT4 rear subframe. This will allow you to bolt up all the OEM gt4 parts and make your st celica into a gt4 just by swaping over aparts. The second option is to go full custom and make your own subframe and source different parts to make your car AWD.

[3WayStunna]

Import GT4 from japan to Guam. Leave it on island for 6 months, and while its sitting take a vacation accumulate around 30,000 miles on it (seems impossible right?) then register it, and ship it to america and it will be perfectly legal....lol, you can weld, do it illegally or wait around another 8 years.....just another option if you belive me ^_^

[st94]

So the rear supframe will not bolt onto the 6g st?
Is it possible to bolt it on?
I do have welding experience from the srjc, any pics on this topic?
How could I get ahold of the mr2 parts i need?
So you say theres no way to legally run the 3sgte in california? even with 94 mr2 egr system and intake?
would JDM ECU not controll the egr?
Im assuming aftermarket ECU's are ref's worst enemy?
would it be a horrible idea to just swap for the 2.2L 6g engine, and bolt on the awd tranny and build up engine for hp/torque?
Do replacement parts come from japan?

[_Jim_]

I have all the rear AWD pieces you are going to need to do the conversion. I can even include an AWD transmission if you dont have one. PM me for pricing.

[Hanyo]

read my post again.

nothings bolts up.

search the forums for pictures.

you most likely will need to get a mr2 rear clip. Call around your local engine company or ebay.

like i said in my previous post; ONLY way to get it smog legal is to use "everything" in a mr2 turbo. No if and or buts. Will jdm ecu work? yes it would, but will NOT pass smog or ref.

read my post again, the awd drive train is the hardest part. If you manage to get it in, you can put what ever motor you want in there.

replacement parts come from where ever the celica gt4 was made, EU/japan... ect.

So the rear supframe will not bolt onto the 6g st?
Is it possible to bolt it on?
I do have welding experience from the srjc, any pics on this topic?
How could I get ahold of the mr2 parts i need?
So you say theres no way to legally run the 3sgte in california? even with 94 mr2 egr system and intake?
would JDM ECU not controll the egr?
Im assuming aftermarket ECU's are ref's worst enemy?
would it be a horrible idea to just swap for the 2.2L 6g engine, and bolt on the awd tranny and build up engine for hp/torque?
Do replacement parts come from japan?

[SwissFerdi]

Did anyone consider that he has a coupe?

[st94]

Did anyone consider that he has a coupe?

Yah my bad..
It is a 2dr coupe.
does the same aply?

[st94]

Bump
Is their any differences between the 94 hatchback rear suspension towers, and the coupe's?
nobody replied.. :[

[SwissFerdi]

I'm pretty sure the dimensions in the rear are different, that the coupe is more narrow. I think you'll have trouble fitting all the parts necessary, but I could be very wrong.

[st94]

how/what engine and drivetrain would be possible for AWD, KEEP IN MIND I NEED TO SMOG (EGR system).
Unless some awsom random person knows how to legally swap in a JDM 3sgte for street use..
Almost considering welding up two clips

[Smaay]

easy solution, get an ST185

[st94]

easy solution, get an ST185

easy? why wouldnt i just keep the 3sgte as my goal in that case, however a legal california swap must be the same year or newer, both must be same OBD, so this means I need a EGR system, and the 3sgte doesnt; unless its from94+MR2 and the ST185 is a 5th gen so its older, not the SAME YEAR OR NEWER.

Are you saying bolt on the ST185's intake manifold onto the 3sgte?

This post has been edited by st94: Mar 9, 2010 - 8:29 PM

[_Jim_]

No, he is saying buy an Alltrac. It has everything you asked for.

[st94]

flip lights suck.
not to mention they are scarce as ever and over priced, best deal I ever found is a 88 alltrac with 125xxx for 3500.
would it be wrong to use another make engine/drive train in my celi?
I do honor Toyota..

[lagos]

flip lights suck.
not to mention they are scarce as ever and over priced, best deal I ever found is a 88 alltrac with 125xxx for 3500.
would it be wrong to use another make engine/drive train in my celi?
I do honor Toyota..

You sound like someone with no money but big dreams...
To convert your car, you will need to spend around 10,000$. No part of the awd system bolts up. The whole rear end of the car has to be cut up and welded with a lot of custom fabrication work (hope you know how to do this). Besides all that, the fact that you have a coupe makes it almost impossible to do because the rear section of the car is totally different.

Use the search feature and look up some of the people who have attempted this conversion to learn more about it.

And NO, once you swap your car, it will no longer be smog legal. Especially in california.

PS. its a lot easier to change the flip lights then it is to convert your car to awd and make it smog legal.

This post has been edited by lagos: Mar 10, 2010 - 1:24 AM

[st94]

I have plenty of money, Im just not gunne go throw it away on something i can never drive. Welding two clips would be a possible way, however clips are usually cut in different spots. I beleive I would have the knowlage and skill to weld two clips.
you do have a point about the flip light thing haha

P.S.
10K if you want your momy to have her mechanic do it for you!!!!

Welding+Skill= some flawless **** beleive me.

[lagos]

I have plenty of money, Im just not gunne go throw it away on something i can never drive. Welding two clips would be a possible way, however clips are usually cut in different spots. I beleive I would have the knowlage and skill to weld two clips.
you do have a point about the flip light thing haha

P.S.
10K if you want your momy to have her mechanic do it for you!!!!

Welding+Skill= some flawless **** beleive me.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?
If you have the knowledge to weld 2 clips together, then you would have the knowledge to know how bad of an idea that is.

As for the price, its about 10k if you do your own work for all of the parts, and it will never be street legal, especially in california.

[njccmd2002]

flip lights suck.
not to mention they are scarce as ever and over priced, best deal I ever found is a 88 alltrac with 125xxx for 3500.
would it be wrong to use another make engine/drive train in my celi?
I do honor Toyota..

you dont want to spend 3500 on a car that has what you want. bu rather spend 10K on a illegal car?

It makes no sense.

buy a 88 altrac at 3500, and use the 6500 to change the flip lights.

its easier.

Nothing is cheaper. I am doing a beams swap by myself. So far 4k, not including the car. and these engines are a drop in.

no welding, or cutting.

lagos is right. ask Jmeyer, he has a post and he is doing what you want. Its not a drop in the bucket..




http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...68701&st=20

[st94]

I have plenty of money, Im just not gunne go throw it away on something i can never drive. Welding two clips would be a possible way, however clips are usually cut in different spots. I beleive I would have the knowlage and skill to weld two clips.
you do have a point about the flip light thing haha

P.S.
10K if you want your momy to have her mechanic do it for you!!!!

Welding+Skill= some flawless **** beleive me.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?
If you have the knowledge to weld 2 clips together, then you would have the knowledge to know how bad of an idea that is.

As for the price, its about 10k if you do your own work for all of the parts, and it will never be street legal, especially in california.

Im 20 and not dumb, I know the disasters of a horrible weld. Bad things happen when your using some peice of cr*p welder from harbort freight, and probly dont know how to use a welding machine regaurdless like most on these type of forums that call themself "Welders".
My fathers a welding inspector and does xrays, any teaches me as much as he possibly can(We have any type of arc you wanny make ).
I have also completed the local JC's welding course w/ certificate, and attending the Auto program(almost completed w/ certificate)

One who sais it "cannot be done" has doubt in their own physical abilities.
ANY THING COULD BE DONE IN THE WELDING WORLD, its all about propper fitup, enginering, and common scence.
Welding two clips together would be a whole different car than my ST, welding the two clips for track use, was what i was saying on by the way IMO .

[lagos]

I have plenty of money, Im just not gunne go throw it away on something i can never drive. Welding two clips would be a possible way, however clips are usually cut in different spots. I beleive I would have the knowlage and skill to weld two clips.
you do have a point about the flip light thing haha

P.S.
10K if you want your momy to have her mechanic do it for you!!!!

Welding+Skill= some flawless **** beleive me.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?
If you have the knowledge to weld 2 clips together, then you would have the knowledge to know how bad of an idea that is.

As for the price, its about 10k if you do your own work for all of the parts, and it will never be street legal, especially in california.

Im 20 and not dumb, I know the disasters of a horrible weld. Bad things happen when your using some peice of cr*p welder from harbort freight, and probly dont know how to use a welding machine regardless like most on these type of forums that call themself "Welders".
My fathers a welding inspector and does xrays, any teaches me as much as he possibly can(We have any type of arc you wanny make ).
I have also completed the local JC's welding course w/ certificate, and attending the Auto program(almost completed w/ certificate)

One who sais it "cannot be done" has doubt in their own physical abilities.
ANY THING COULD BE DONE IN THE WELDING WORLD, its all about propper fitup, enginering, and common sense.
Welding two clips together would be a whole different car than my ST, welding the two clips for track use, was what i was saying on by the way IMO .

Cool, so good luck with the project. Now get to work and post updates on your progress!

[neKronos]

why dont people ever use the search function?

[st94]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

[Batman722]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

then instead of asking so many questions that have been asked many times before (like a retard), use the search button and look for the answers and you won't look like a retard, because you look like one now. Did I mention you look like a retard insulting other members trying to help you ?

first, you've asked some basic questions and done no research and expect things to be just handed to you ...?

next, since you are living in California you should be well aware of the strict smog and modifying laws they have in place. Have you researched those ?

the easy answer to your big question is no.

Good luck

[st94]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

then instead of asking so many questions that have been asked many times before (like a retard), use the search button and look for the answers and you won't look like a retard, because you look like one now. Did I mention you look like a retard insulting other members trying to help you ?

first, you've asked some basic questions and done no research and expect things to be just handed to you ...?

next, since you are living in California you should be well aware of the strict smog and modifying laws they have in place. Have you researched those ?

the easy answer to your big question is no.

Good luck

But your are yet just another ignorant jack*ss? I never insulted anyone, people doubted me, proved them wrong and only asked one question. You really cannot critisize me for using this website, and you act like I have never read a page of writing before.
I guarentee you have no knowlage of this thread, and just droppd in to act like you know a little something.

P.S.- instead of tawking trash over the net, make your life worth wile and do something constructive. Any one can be a internet bully.

Im not here to start sh_t, but guarenteed youv asked a question thats been ansered aleady(before me).

[_Jim_]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

then instead of asking so many questions that have been asked many times before (like a retard), use the search button and look for the answers and you won't look like a retard, because you look like one now. Did I mention you look like a retard insulting other members trying to help you ?

first, you've asked some basic questions and done no research and expect things to be just handed to you ...?

next, since you are living in California you should be well aware of the strict smog and modifying laws they have in place. Have you researched those ?

the easy answer to your big question is no.

Good luck

But your are yet just another ignorant jack*ss? I never insulted anyone, people doubted me, proved them wrong and only asked one question. You really cannot critisize me for using this website, and you act like I have never read a page of writing before.
I guarentee you have no knowlage of this thread, and just droppd in to act like you know a little something.

P.S.- instead of tawking trash over the net, make your life worth wile and do something constructive. Any one can be a internet bully.

Im not here to start sh_t, but guarenteed youv asked a question thats been ansered aleady(before me).

I agree with the Jack*ss part completely, you hit the nail on the head there.

If you are serious about converting to AWD, and you have welding skills...the conversion is very doable. You are also very much correct in saying that anything is possible, ESPECIALLY with welding skills. If people scoped out Chevy and Honda forums they would understand this better.

Here is what you will need to do your conversion:

GEN3 3sgte (my own personal preference, GEN2 will work also)
AWD trans that comes with the ST205
rear AWD components from an ST205:
diff
cradle
axles
rear struts
calipers
rotors
gas tank
etc.

From there, I feel the best and safest way to do the conversion is to weld in a rear "subframe." The front can literally be just a 2" (ruff measurement of course, as I have not gone out and measured my actual subframes before) piece of steel welded to the existing frame of the car, as the frame for the front of the cradle is actually there...just sits a little to high.

The rear "subframe" is where the challenge comes into play. You can either box out a 2"x4" rectangular piece of steel and weld it from existing frame to existing frame, and weld in a solid piece of steel where the cradle needs to bolt to, so you have a nice solid piece of 2" steel the drill and tap or....

You can do as I am doing. I had a custom set of rear subframes made for me. These rear subframes slide tight against the floor plans, and tight against the frame rails. From there I am going to weld EVERYTHING in the rear. I will weld the custom rear subframes to the existing frame of the car, and to the floor plans of the car. I am doing this for both the front and the rear subframes. This will not alter the structurally integrity of the car in any way (as welding in GT4 floor plans, or welding a GT4 back together would) and it is strong enough to withstand ANYTHING you can possibly throw at it.

After the subframes are welded in, the rest of the swap is basically bolt in. Only small fabrication will be required after that.

I can get you everything you need to do the conversion with the purchase of a front half cut from me. It includes everything need for the conversion, and includes the GT4 front body panels, RHD, super strut suspension, etc. The only thing you will need to do is weld up a set of subframes for your self, and possibly order a longer driveshaft from drivshaft.com IF the coupes have a longer wheel base (I dont think they do, but then I again I never measure either)

As for passing smog, there are a few Cali members here with 3s swaps...so it is very possible. Contact them maybe and see where they went, or what they did.

As for using the 5sfe...You can. You will need to cut off some metal off the block the clear the AWD trans. I know this because I assembled my 5sgte last weekend, and that was all that was required for me to attach the AWD trans the 5sfe. I wouldn't recommend using the 5sfe stock with an AWD car tho....You think you car is slow NOW...wait till you have the added weight and drivetrain loss of a complete AWD system. If you think you will have less trouble passing smog with a turbo kit on your 5sfe (of if you plan to remove it every time you go in for inspection) go that route. You will not make as much power as a GEN3 3sgte would be capable of...but with cams, a nice size turbo, built bottom end, and 20+psi 400+whp is very possible.

I hope this helps answer the question you have and if not...keep them coming, and if you are interested in parts...feel free to PM for pricing.

This post has been edited by _Jim_: Mar 11, 2010 - 1:17 PM

[njccmd2002]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

then instead of asking so many questions that have been asked many times before (like a retard), use the search button and look for the answers and you won't look like a retard, because you look like one now. Did I mention you look like a retard insulting other members trying to help you ?

first, you've asked some basic questions and done no research and expect things to be just handed to you ...?

next, since you are living in California you should be well aware of the strict smog and modifying laws they have in place. Have you researched those ?

the easy answer to your big question is no.

Good luck

But your are yet just another ignorant jack*ss? I never insulted anyone, people doubted me, proved them wrong and only asked one question. You really cannot critisize me for using this website, and you act like I have never read a page of writing before.
I guarentee you have no knowlage of this thread, and just droppd in to act like you know a little something.

P.S.- instead of tawking trash over the net, make your life worth wile and do something constructive. Any one can be a internet bully.

Im not here to start sh_t, but guarenteed youv asked a question thats been ansered aleady(before me).

Dude, chill, you are a new member and new members get banned for behavior like this,

Frankly this attitude will take you nowhere.

Did you actually research that batman has helped more people with swaps here than anybody else, He has a 3rd gen 3sgte, a BEams and helped me in my beams swap.


You know how to read and search right? Maskedmand and Pipes have done what you are attempting, why not just read their posts too.

I guided you to Jmeyer, yet you still are asking questions.

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT.

Please be more respectful in your posts, as we dont take this too well.

I have counted in my two years almost 6 or 7 people banned for skills like yours...

[st94]

why dont people ever use the search function?

Why are you so ignorant. Im no retard

then instead of asking so many questions that have been asked many times before (like a retard), use the search button and look for the answers and you won't look like a retard, because you look like one now. Did I mention you look like a retard insulting other members trying to help you ?

first, you've asked some basic questions and done no research and expect things to be just handed to you ...?

next, since you are living in California you should be well aware of the strict smog and modifying laws they have in place. Have you researched those ?

the easy answer to your big question is no.

Good luck

But your are yet just another ignorant jack*ss? I never insulted anyone, people doubted me, proved them wrong and only asked one question. You really cannot critisize me for using this website, and you act like I have never read a page of writing before.
I guarentee you have no knowlage of this thread, and just droppd in to act like you know a little something.

P.S.- instead of tawking trash over the net, make your life worth wile and do something constructive. Any one can be a internet bully.

Im not here to start sh_t, but guarenteed youv asked a question thats been ansered aleady(before me).

I agree with the Jack*ss part completely, you hit the nail on the head there.

If you are serious about converting to AWD, and you have welding skills...the conversion is very doable. You are also very much correct in saying that anything is possible, ESPECIALLY with welding skills. If people scoped out Chevy and Honda forums they would understand this better.

Here is what you will need to do your conversion:

GEN3 3sgte (my own personal preference, GEN2 will work also)
AWD trans that comes with the ST205
rear AWD components from an ST205:
diff
cradle
axles
rear struts
calipers
rotors
gas tank
etc.

From there, I feel the best and safest way to do the conversion is to weld in a rear "subframe." The front can literally be just a 2" (ruff measurement of course, as I have not gone out and measured my actual subframes before) piece of steel welded to the existing frame of the car, as the frame for the front of the cradle is actually there...just sits a little to high.

The rear "subframe" is where the challenge comes into play. You can either box out a 2"x4" rectangular piece of steel and weld it from existing frame to existing frame, and weld in a solid piece of steel where the cradle needs to bolt to, so you have a nice solid piece of 2" steel the drill and tap or....

You can do as I am doing. I had a custom set of rear subframes made for me. These rear subframes slide tight against the floor plans, and tight against the frame rails. From there I am going to weld EVERYTHING in the rear. I will weld the custom rear subframes to the existing frame of the car, and to the floor plans of the car. I am doing this for both the front and the rear subframes. This will not alter the structurally integrity of the car in any way (as welding in GT4 floor plans, or welding a GT4 back together would) and it is strong enough to withstand ANYTHING you can possibly throw at it.

After the subframes are welded in, the rest of the swap is basically bolt in. Only small fabrication will be required after that.

I can get you everything you need to do the conversion with the purchase of a front half cut from me. It includes everything need for the conversion, and includes the GT4 front body panels, RHD, super strut suspension, etc. The only thing you will need to do is weld up a set of subframes for your self, and possibly order a longer driveshaft from drivshaft.com IF the coupes have a longer wheel base (I dont think they do, but then I again I never measure either)

As for passing smog, there are a few Cali members here with 3s swaps...so it is very possible. Contact them maybe and see where they went, or what they did.

As for using the 5sfe...You can. You will need to cut off some metal off the block the clear the AWD trans. I know this because I assembled my 5sgte last weekend, and that was all that was required for me to attach the AWD trans the 5sfe. I wouldn't recommend using the 5sfe stock with an AWD car tho....You think you car is slow NOW...wait till you have the added weight and drivetrain loss of a complete AWD system. If you think you will have less trouble passing smog with a turbo kit on your 5sfe (of if you plan to remove it every time you go in for inspection) go that route. You will not make as much power as a GEN3 3sgte would be capable of...but with cams, a nice size turbo, built bottom end, and 20+psi 400+whp is very possible.

I hope this helps answer the question you have and if not...keep them coming, and if you are interested in parts...feel free to PM for pricing.

Well I guess I should say sorry to the mod team, I do understand what you are saying njccmd2002..
I have read through your threads as well.(before this)
I just find it offending when people like batman are so quick to judge.
Jim, thank you for so much for all the info! I have been researching your info provided through your profile, and it is great!
I shall get in touch with the folks that have done the swap legally in CA.
Im still debating in my head weather to weld two clips, or weld in subframe's, a floor channel, ect.
I will make sure to contact you for anything I need

[_Jim_]

Glad I could help.

If by a floor channel, you mean an area to fit the driveshaft....it isnt needed. There is already a "channel" for the driveshaft to fit on the USDM Celicas. Like I said, this conversion is more feasible then most people think.

[_Jim_]

I dont see the advantage of welding 2 "clips" together.

Ok say in a perfect world, you got your hands on a GT4 the was PERFECTLY cut down the middle and you welded it back together. For these 2 clips you are looking at something like $8,000 delivered to your door.

Now for your $8,000 you have 2 halves of the same car welded together, you will need new interior plastics, new carpet, driveshaft, fuel lines, brake lines, you will need to body work, repaint the car, etc.

Since you only welded the 2 halves together, you do not have a USDM VIN, so you will not be able to register the car unless you do a VIN swap (FELONY) or pay about $3,000 to legally register it as a GT4

You also didnt do any maintenance to the engine that is 15+ years old and your still on the stock clutch.

So a quick tally looks like this:
2 clips...8k
body work and paint...2k
repairing damage done when cut in half...500

You are looking at over 12K for a car that you cannot even register legally/cheaply, still on original gaskets, original clutch, etc. Not worth it in my opinion.


For 10K I can get you a GT4 delivered to your door in running condition and still in one piece. No need to weld it together.

This post has been edited by _Jim_: Mar 11, 2010 - 3:53 PM

[pipes]

like jim said easier than you think..... and yes it can get pricey if i were to redo mine i could do it for 8k.... but i decided i wanted fancy things so i touched 10k

[pittfirefighter]

how about the fact that he wants this to be legal in cali? its absolutely impossible... you cannot make any car legal with an engine change in cali... or in the US for that matter... the vin codes have to match... there is no and, ifs, or buts about it... now if you know a mechanic that will pass the car then thats a different story.... shouldn't really worry too much about smog then... but considering cali is known for busting cars that have been lowered.... driving a swapped AWD 3sgte daily.. not such a good idea

[st94]

I was tawking to the smog guy at my school, and he said to "make your own vehicle" you would need its emissions to get approved by the US standards (every year it gets strickter), this is a long process.
You can find complete clips on ebay for around 4-5g but with no suspension or wheels

[pittfirefighter]

theres not a chance "building" your own vehicle would ever pass any type of inspection UNLESS you know the guy giving you the sticker

[st94]

theres not a chance "building" your own vehicle would ever pass any type of inspection UNLESS you know the guy giving you the sticker

he said theres smog standards, I never herd of any other inspections.
ASE mechanics are not certified welders either..
You would keep the origional JDM vin on the car.
It costs bank to register like JIM stated.
Another legal way would be to get a good deal on a GSX or something similar for like 3K and boom..
But than again you would have to be a hardcore Celica enthusiast to tear down a perfectly fine GSX
(for that matter lets find a VR4!!) and swap it ALL over...
It wouldnt be much of a Celica afterwords though..
Sounds fun

[lagos]

like jim said easier than you think..... and yes it can get pricey if i were to redo mine i could do it for 8k.... but i decided i wanted fancy things so i touched 10k

"10K if you want your momy to have her mechanic do it for you!!"

[SlvrCelica09]

AWD swap complete yet? or did the OP wake up from his dream