K-SPORT COILS, fully installed Options

[chacha]

what are we really adjusting....which parts....the bottom rings or the top rings...does anyone have pics? of the lowest settings for front and back?

which to adjust?

This bottom part only (the BLACK RING) or the part where my THUMB is touching?





The orange rings.....?




What about the space between my two fingers?






What are the right adjustable height of the bottom black piece and the space with thread from orange rings? the displacements?

This post has been edited by chacha: Mar 21, 2010 - 10:22 AM

[playr158]

The orange rings you adjust so that the spring sits snug up against the top perch.

So push the spring up till it stops, and spin the upper orange ring till it touches the spring, now spin the bottom orange ring up till it meets the upper one. tighten the bottom ring to the top.
This is setting pre-load on the spring.

the bottom black ring, this is what is allowing your ride height to change. You spin the assembly (the threaded part that your fingers aren't touching) into the base piece (your thumb is touching). make sure you have the same amount of threads into the base, as its partner assembly (left and right must be equal). once you've gotten how low you want to go you snug the black ring down to the bottom piece to hold it in place. (finger to thumb)

sounds a bit confusing i know.

[chacha]

i understand what you mean...thanks....this took me almost 3 hours to do just the front because....well i didn't know what i was doing....thanks playr; i just did one and match the other in heights

This post has been edited by chacha: Mar 18, 2010 - 12:24 PM

[Tigawoods]

damn you and your newer version of the kontrols

[whatthe]

^ I noticed that too, the build quailty looks really good!

[playr158]

i understand what you mean...thanks....this took me almost 3 hours to do just the front because....well i didn't know what i was doing....thanks playr; i just did one and match the other in heights

don't drive like that much at all.
they will react very very differently.

[rjbibeau]

they are nice...mine are slammed till the sleeve almost hits the cv boot...only prob i have been having are the front locking nuts underneath the spring keep coming loose...my solution was simple....hose clamp below the lower locking nut...

[chode]

from another post

im sure someone can answer you better than me, but, here i go
1- where his right hand is, you just want to squeez the spring a little bit (so its not loose)(and you dant want to change the spring load by lowering or raising the suspension)
2- you install the coilover, notice that they are not the same height as the stock one ( for the height, i just guested it and adjust after)

3- make sure that both front are the same height (rear too)

4- put your mags on and put your car on the floor (the more even the floor is the bether it is)
5- mesure how much you want to raise it or lower it
6- when you want to change the ride height, you dont need to desassamble the hub and every thing
you just need to get your wheel off
7- first thing you want to do is loosen the bottom ring (a lot)(raise her a inch or two)

8- if you want to lower it, take the 'key', put it on the top ring and 'unscrew' it
(the tread will 'enter' in the hub and this will lower the car)
(when you work with the top two ring, you always want them to work against the other one, since you dont want to change the load on the spring)
(you will understand this part when you will do it )

9- if you want to raise it, take the 'bottom top ring' and 'screw it'

10- thighten the bottom ring and make sure that both front are the same height (and both rear)
11- put your wheels back and if it sit the height you want.......






....... LOWER IT MORE
12- ANJOY

P.S. i am no professionnal and this is what i learned by my self (im sure the're might have thing i could of do better)

[chacha]

man...i swear i searched the forum...a GOOD 35 minutes and gave up...i click everything post....thanks for the future reference....what i did was just measure both struts at the same height....(on level floor), balance the pillow mounts so they are on straight....measure the gaps (the open space "thread" part) to make sure all equal with a tape measure. Put it in and start adjusting the two rings holding the spring in tight...my only problem was having the fronts lowered too much....it push ALL THE WAY to .5" funny is that it didn't scrap but the tires were rubbing, adjust it to 1.25" in the fronts and same things for the rear, but with height at 2" approximately. I F*CK up the washers on the top of spring with the two fronts because the springs were to low and it came out of place, but i just simply fixed that by adjusting the springs back up to fix the bent washers as best as i could...hopefully this won't be a problem...

I'll post pictures tomorrow when i get back from work. i spilled most of the oil fluid by accident and manage to only lubricate the two rear...i need some more for the fronts---->> anyone know where i can buy some more, can i just use some grease or it has to be that thin oil fluid?

BEFORE pic with REAR:






DON't have the fronts before....these are the after shots.

Front tire



REAR tire



How it sits to the ground






Rear tire



Front tire







This post has been edited by chacha: Mar 20, 2010 - 7:49 PM

[chacha]

great news is that i got these BRAND NEW for $810 shipped straight from ksport warehouse in AZ. two 2-3 weeks

[chacha]

all done...that's how it sits for now...waiting for cusco lower arm bar and under brace body bar.

1.1 in all around

This post has been edited by chacha: Mar 20, 2010 - 7:50 PM

[chacha]

does anyone know if camber kits are necessary for coilovers?

[SwissFerdi]

Only if your camber is out of spec. Judging from your pics, it is not.

Is that 1.1 how much you dropped in inches? No way that's true, I dropped slightly less than you and my Sportline springs are rated at 1.5". However, I never really measured. Either way, congratulations. Looks great.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Mar 22, 2010 - 9:01 PM

[chacha]

those pics don't tell much...as you can tell, im really a noob on this subject....i found that these ksport offer adjustable camber kit on the pillow mount...my question should have been how do i adjust them correctly? how do i know good is good from bad?

[garin]

those pics don't tell much...as you can tell, im really a noob on this subject....i found that these ksport offer adjustable camber kit on the pillow mount...my question should have been how do i adjust them correctly? how do i know good is good from bad?

in reality you need to go to a shop and get an alignment... camber is not the only measurement you need to be concerned about...

[chacha]

thanks...im planning to take it to a shop to get an alignment, but i don't want them to charge me for adjusting the camber so my tires don't butterfly out....and as of now, the tires, bottom portion sticks out more than the top half....figure i do the adjusting on the cambers myself with the 6gc family's help. or do the shops do it too with the alignment?

[SwissFerdi]

No, you need to get a camber kit. Search for the one from Eibach on Tire Rack, I've heard good things about that kit.

Here, I did it for you.

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspens...artnum=5.81260K

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Mar 22, 2010 - 10:29 PM

[chacha]

thanks swiss...ill check them out

[lagos]

I thought the whole idea of the ksports were that they allow for camber adjustment?

[garin]

I thought the whole idea of the ksports were that they allow for camber adjustment?

they do! all full coilover systems have the top mount. you can also adjust at the knuckle, like a regular mcpherson strut set up. you need to take it to get aligned tho... sai, caster, toe are all factors to look at.

[rjbibeau]

only the front have the adjustable plates on them...the rears do not...and on our setup and caster cannot be adjusted...i have my tires tucked with 17's...u need to slam yours more dude....i can go another inch lower if i want lol

[garin]

only the front have the adjustable plates on them...the rears do not...and on our setup and caster cannot be adjusted...i have my tires tucked with 17's...u need to slam yours more dude....i can go another inch lower if i want lol

the rears are adjustable for camber... just not as adjustable.... an alignment is a good idea, non the less

[chacha]

yeah...i thought so too...the camber adjusty are on the pillow mounts. but the questions are: how do i adjust them accordingly? is this part for the shop or can i do it myself? if i were to do it, does anyone know the proper way to adjust it...is there something i can use to go on to get corrected adjustments?

[garin]

You can adjust yourself any where from 0 to stightly negative

[rjbibeau]

most of the time u can eyeball it and take note of the tire wear. i'm so low that my rears still have neg camber even though i have a the eibach camber bolt in the top of the strut. most shops will charge ya around 50-60 bucks or find a buddy who works in a shop to do it for a case of beer. apparently ksport may have came out with a diff setup cuz mine do not have a rear camber plate

This post has been edited by rjbibeau: Mar 24, 2010 - 11:15 AM

[96stgreendemon]

not to thread jack but was wondering how u like the coilovers, thinking about putting them on mine but its my dd

[garin]

well i like mine... i wish they were a differnt color though... i got an older version for $700. the new ones look great too!

[whatthe]

most of the time u can eyeball it and take note of the tire wear. i'm so low that my rears still have neg camber even though i have a the eibach camber bolt in the top of the strut. most shops will charge ya around 50-60 bucks or find a buddy who works in a shop to do it for a case of beer. apparently ksport may have came out with a diff setup cuz mine do not have a rear camber plate

Yeh your right. The eibach is only good for up to 1.75degrees both way. And with a camber of like -3 (what i have atm) that camber kit wont get a result of -1 which is what im after.

How can you put on a camber plate on the back? Its pretty impoosible as even if there was a camber plate its impossible to adjust it as the chassis setup willl block adjustability. No?

[rjbibeau]

they are way nice...better then the stock strut and coilover setup thats for sure...no more botom out clunking sound....i ride em on #2-3 and its a perfect ride....threw em on 36 and i damn near went though the roof....these babies were the best thing i have ever purchased...mine are orange what color is yours...i got mine when they first came out

This post has been edited by rjbibeau: Mar 24, 2010 - 5:22 PM

[garin]

they are way nice...better then the stock strut and coilover setup thats for sure...no more botom out clunking sound....i ride em on #2-3 and its a perfect ride....threw em on 36 and i damn near went though the roof....these babies were the best thing i have ever purchased...mine are orange what color is yours...i got mine when they first came out

haha these coils are nice. there is camber adjustment in the rear for 4 different setting i believe (not as adjustable as the front). i ground out a bit of the car to make more positive camber. you can also grind out the hole where the knuckle and strut meet (2 19mm bolts).

i believe all ksports are orange. i like the purple d2 coils because of the color. i don't like the ksport orange and the deep jewel green together lol.

[rjbibeau]

damn mine doesn't have the adjustments in the rear at all...take a pic if ya can im kinda interested in how its set up...are there markings on yours

[Tigawoods]

i like how our versions are orange. they stand out more than the new black versions

[garin]

damn mine doesn't have the adjustments in the rear at all...take a pic if ya can im kinda interested in how its set up...are there markings on yours

no marking, just a few different settings...

[chacha]

with these install for those who do have it...what is the angle all ya'll have for the fronts and rear...the furthest i got mines for the fronts were only -2 i think without the camber bolts for fronts, but just with the ksport adj camber plate.

[Scar--]

Is the inverted model for st205 bolt on just like tein`s coilover kit?