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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 16, '07 From Vancouver, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
Alright I hope this clears up any misconceptions on what our cars was getting. Some of the people on this board have gotten outrageous fuel economy, which in turn has discourage other members into believing how bad of a condition their car is in.
First off, fuel economy has many factors that effect it. Some of these factors are age, health, weight, how you drive, model (to some degree) So please take these things into consideration when reading this chart. I hope this information has been of some used. *This information was taken from Toyota's specification sheet. I was able to duplicate it with rights, while I was a part-time parts representative.* 1994 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 7AFE | MANUAL .......|_ 8.7 - 6.4 |_ 32 - 44 7AFE | AUTOMATIC ..|_ 9.2 - 6.7 |_ 31 - 42 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.3 - 7.4 |_ 27 - 38 5SFE | AUTOMATIC ..| 10.4 - 7.3 |_ 27 - 39 1995 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 7AFE | MANUAL .......|_ 8.1 - 6.4 |_ 35 - 44 7AFE | AUTOMATIC ..|_ 8.8 - 6.5 |_ 32 - 43 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.5 - 7.6 |_ 27 - 37 5SFE | AUTOMATIC ..| 10.4 - 7.3 |_ 27 - 39 1996 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 7AFE | MANUAL .......|_ 8.1 - 6.4 |_ 35 - 44 7AFE | AUTOMATIC ..|_ 8.8 - 6.5 |_ 32 - 43 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.6 - 7.6 |_ 27 - 37 5SFE | AUTOMATIC ..| 10.8 - 7.5 |_ 26 - 38 1997 Celica - 1998 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.6 - 7.6 |_ 27 - 37 5SFE | AUTOMATIC ..| 10.8 - 7.5 |_ 26 - 38 1999 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.8 - 7.6 |_ 26 - 37 5SFE | AUTOMATIC ..| 10.6 - 7.7 |_ 27 - 37 Its not my typical DIY but its pretty damn useful. aha - my celica was getting 12.8L/100kms (I had a half a dime size hole in the front pipe) it was recently replaced with another used pipe. I am now getting 10.8L/100kms mixed of highway and city driving + lead foot aha LESSON TO LEARN: FIX YOUR EXHAUST LEAKS!!! This post has been edited by vile_v: Apr 17, 2010 - 6:42 PM -------------------- ![]() |
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Feb 18, '07 From Calgary, Alberta Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
nice info! turns out that my car actually gets numbers around there. we get spanked by integras with the standard b18b with fuel economy and our cars arent any faster =(
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I only ever get as bad as 10.5 If I use ****ty fuel and floor it everywhere if I use good fuel and drive normal I get 9 litres per 100km.
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great stuff, will see if we can get the 3S-GE/BEAMS and the 3S-GTE fuel usage. and should be added to the sticky section for future reference
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 28, '07 From france Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i usually do 600 km with 47l, so an average of 7.8l per 100 km. i drive half city/half highway everyday.
my record was a little over 800km with 55l, 3people inside, trunck loaded to max, so an average of 6.8 l/km. This post has been edited by zoik: Apr 17, 2010 - 6:10 AM |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 20, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
My old 95 Celica ST got around 18MPG =_=
-------------------- ~Moving on to a 2002 Corolla S~ R.I.P Tom Celica - 1994-2010 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 18, '08 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) ![]() |
WAIT!!
You mean to tell me a 94-7afe can achieve 44mpg, while QUOTE the 2011 Mustang has been certified by the EPA to achieve 19 mpg-US quote via WIKI.com wow- how great it is that technology has advanced so far here in the us. 17 years LATER the USDM cannot produce a damn vehicle that can... oh gawd damnit man... I'm moving outta america. I"M NOT WITH THE REST OF THESE GUYS!! SOMEONE TELL AMERICAN COMPANYS TO PAY ATTENTION!! -------------------- QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 6, 2010 - 6:16 AM) Via FB: fcuking awsome!!! D-man FTW! Damn D-Man - most impressive. D-Man's post should be a sticky LOL, oh boy, you can always count on D-Man for ridiculously hilarious posts. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 28, '07 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
wow...40+ is bull****,i got 39,ONCE and that was 55,cruise control,no ac,no passing,NOTHING..
(nice pic of ferdi d-man) This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Apr 20, 2010 - 1:32 AM -------------------- BANNED. for life, you moron.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 15, '08 From Merced, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
WAIT!! You mean to tell me a 94-7afe can achieve 44mpg, while QUOTE the 2011 Mustang has been certified by the EPA to achieve 19 mpg-US quote via WIKI.com wow- how great it is that technology has advanced so far here in the us. 17 years LATER the USDM cannot produce a damn vehicle that can... oh gawd damnit man... I'm moving outta america. I"M NOT WITH THE REST OF THESE GUYS!! SOMEONE TELL AMERICAN COMPANYS TO PAY ATTENTION!! The 2011 mustang gets 19/31. Most fuel efficient 300 horsepower car ever produced. You fail D-man! |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 26, '09 From Albuquerque, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 19 (100%) ![]() |
I only get 28mpg with my '95 ST! WTF
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 9, '10 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
How do you guys measure this?
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '10 From Davenport, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
fill your tank then drive 100 miles then fill your tank again , note the amount of gallons you had to refill with, then divide miles by gallons and it will tell you your mpg
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) ![]() |
WAIT!! You mean to tell me a 94-7afe can achieve 44mpg, while QUOTE the 2011 Mustang has been certified by the EPA to achieve 19 mpg-US quote via WIKI.com wow- how great it is that technology has advanced so far here in the us. 17 years LATER the USDM cannot produce a damn vehicle that can... oh gawd damnit man... I'm moving outta america. I"M NOT WITH THE REST OF THESE GUYS!! SOMEONE TELL AMERICAN COMPANYS TO PAY ATTENTION!! The 2011 mustang gets 19/31. Most fuel efficient 300 horsepower car ever produced. You fail D-man! anddd the 2011 v6 mustang weighs 3580lbs with a 180 pound driver..and the celica ST is like what, 2500lbs? come on now are we really going to argue this? esp when my old 94 mustang 3.8 v6 got 16 mpg city with a 10 gallon gas tank.. ya 160 miles to a tank, which is y i drive a celica now lol. oh and the 2011 v6 mustang runs 14.33 on the 1/4 mile with 240 stock rwhp.. not to bad out of a 3500 pound stock v6 that has 19/31 mpg at 305 hp ![]() ![]() -------------------- st205 powered ss3 coupe
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 30, '11 From Albany, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
Heres the thing you have to consider "thruway" mpg. In my case highway is 55 and thruway (depending where you are) is 65. If I drive at highway speeds I can get over 40mpg or around that, and if I drive at thruway speeds I can get high 30's. with a small amount of city driving, along with going up and down mountains, added with going about 70mph I was able to travel 300+ miles on about 9-10 gallons of fuel, so I avg. a little more than 30mpg. Anyone has similar results?
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Aug 28, '08 From Woolwich, Maine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I have gotten up to 600 miles on a tank with around 200K miles on my car, that's an average of 37.3 MPG
NYp8tBaller07, I get about the same mileage as you when I travel from Midcoast Area in Maine to Boston for school on the interstate |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 15, '08 From Royal Oak, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) ![]() |
i always get 31mpg hwy. I always get around 430ish miles until the fuel light comes on.
my car has 213k miles now. -------------------- God made man....
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 23, '10 From PA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I get like 320 miles until my gas light comes on. Then when I fill it it takes about 12 gallons.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) ![]() |
I get like 320 miles until my gas light comes on. Then when I fill it it takes about 12 gallons. 320/12 = 26.7 That's about what I get during the summer but right now I'm below 300...damn cold weather. -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 11, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) ![]() |
i got about 450 out of a tank, thats with a 97 automatic. that spreadsheet you got, i would post that everywhere i could!
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Holy hell, I'm getting the ST version
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Apr 8, '03 From New York City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
37mpg highway.. gosh that is such total and utter bullcrap.
I got a 98 manual and the best I ever got was about 30mpg highway driving down in Florida and I was driving highway for hours at a time. I usually get about 26-29 mpg 75% highway 25% city. 37mpg is total bullcrap. No way. |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 29, '09 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) ![]() |
Just went to Flordia, from SC.
8 Hour drive. 443 mile trip. 12 gallon tank, perspectively 36 miles a gallon. Got to the hotel on fumes, but made it. 159k on engine, no major changes to engine. Big speaker enclosure in the hatch. Manual Trannie. Went between 65-75mph whole way. I know this is for real, being I charge my employer mileage, and get my gas receipts paid back. This post has been edited by rave2n: Feb 21, 2011 - 11:05 AM |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 20, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
And here my old '95 ST got 18mpg =_=
-------------------- ~Moving on to a 2002 Corolla S~ R.I.P Tom Celica - 1994-2010 |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Apr 8, '03 From New York City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Just went to Flordia, from SC. 8 Hour drive. 443 mile trip. 12 gallon tank, perspectively 36 miles a gallon. Got to the hotel on fumes, but made it. 159k on engine, no major changes to engine. Big speaker enclosure in the hatch. Manual Trannie. Went between 65-75mph whole way. I know this is for real, being I charge my employer mileage, and get my gas receipts paid back. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the tank is 16 gallon. So you were getting 27-30 mpg which is typically what I get. |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 16, '10 From Raleigh Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) ![]() |
Wow I'm pissed. My 94 5s only gets about 24-25 average. I've replaced filter, plugs, plug wires, coil, and distributor rotor......FAIL.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 29, '03 From lynn,ma Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
necroing the thread. My GT with a hole in the flex pipe gets around 26-27 light foot driving.... mostly city.... need to get that hole fix....
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) ![]() |
ill try and contribute my mileage on beams motor once I correct my air/fuel ratio issue. I heard it was somewhere around 22 city and 30 highway???
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '10 From Davenport, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Just went to Flordia, from SC. 8 Hour drive. 443 mile trip. 12 gallon tank, perspectively 36 miles a gallon. Got to the hotel on fumes, but made it. 159k on engine, no major changes to engine. Big speaker enclosure in the hatch. Manual Trannie. Went between 65-75mph whole way. I know this is for real, being I charge my employer mileage, and get my gas receipts paid back. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the tank is 16 gallon. So you were getting 27-30 mpg which is typically what I get. hmm i have never been able to put more than 13.5 gallons in mine, i guess it means i can drive on E alot longer then i thought -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) ![]() |
do not drive your car till its gets to e or until the gas light shows up. It's recommended by the manufacture of all car companies to keep your gas tank filled above the quarter line. This way your fuel pump is always being cooled by the fuel inside the gas tank!!! or else your fuel pump will eventually seize over time...
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 3, '06 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) ![]() |
3rd gen 3s-gte.
While cruising normal, average of 10 liter per 100 km Normal cruising, with traffic-light sprints 12,5 liter per 100km Fast cruising 20 liter per 100km Averages of city and highway together These are factory specs: At 90 km/h: 7.5 liter/100 km At 120 km/: 9.4 liter/100 km City: 11.6 liter/100 km I guess I have to change my driving style ![]() -------------------- JDM ST205
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
3rd gen 3s-gte. While cruising normal, average of 10 liter per 100 km Normal cruising, with traffic-light sprints 12,5 liter per 100km Fast cruising 20 liter per 100km Averages of city and highway together These are factory specs: At 90 km/h: 7.5 liter/100 km At 120 km/: 9.4 liter/100 km City: 11.6 liter/100 km I guess I have to change my driving style ![]() 10 litres per 100km is great for normal driving! I wouldn't be able to help boosting it EVERYWHERE so its probably lucky I have a godawful 5SFE lol. |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 29, '09 From Gainesville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) ![]() |
Same, from E, mine only takes 13.5....I never take it below a quarter expect for large trips like that. Anyone confirm..? This post has been edited by rave2n: May 10, 2011 - 10:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 17, '10 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Hi, Guys! Well I just calculated my MPG and I am doing city driving 22.7 MPG. Not so good comparing with most of you, pals!
I just got a new Oxigen sensor=denso by the way, i noticed better MPG but i should be around 26 or 27 MPG. So what i should do to my car to get a better MPG. My spark plugs are new, cables are about 40000 miles old(NKG), new air filter, 30000 miles ago I changed dist cap and rotor. Also my EGR valve is not working properly, i got an engine code=insufficient flow. Do you think that if i clean it, I can get better MPG. Any other suggestion would be appreciated! My celica has already 170000 miles and leaking some oil. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 8, '09 From Montréal, Québec Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
Best i ever had with my 94 st is 6.6 l/100km on highway with a lightly damaged piston ring (185psi comp beside 210 for the others). So i guess those numbers are good and/or my 6gen is still in good shape afther all. I think she usually drinks 7.7l/100km for summer all around performances.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '10 From Davenport, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
do not drive your car till its gets to e or until the gas light shows up. It's recommended by the manufacture of all car companies to keep your gas tank filled above the quarter line. This way your fuel pump is always being cooled by the fuel inside the gas tank!!! or else your fuel pump will eventually seize over time... i deliver pizza... i live on e. guess i'll save some cash for when i eventually kill the fuel pump -------------------- ![]() |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '11 From usa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I always take mine down to E and always calculate my mileage when I fill up. All stock 94 St with 240k miles. I have never needed a fuel pump and ain't worried about it at all. Honestly, how many electric motors do you folks know of that have seized because of not being submerged in a liquid? I'm thinking like ZERO!
I do wish I could get over 30 mpg. 40+ sounds ludicrous. This post has been edited by jimboggs: Jun 9, 2011 - 10:33 AM -------------------- '94 ST 7A-FE Hatch 240K original miles+
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '09 From Sacramento, California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Wow I'm pissed. My 94 5s only gets about 24-25 average. I've replaced filter, plugs, plug wires, coil, and distributor rotor......FAIL. We on the same boat lol, except my tune up is to come. I get about 25~ mpg, which ain't bad but I want that 30 **** everyone else is hitting. do not drive your car till its gets to e or until the gas light shows up. It's recommended by the manufacture of all car companies to keep your gas tank filled above the quarter line. This way your fuel pump is always being cooled by the fuel inside the gas tank!!! or else your fuel pump will eventually seize over time... Good to know, thanks for informing me ![]() -------------------- Brand new 6gc owner! (sort of 2011)
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
37mpg highway.. gosh that is such total and utter bullcrap. I got a 98 manual and the best I ever got was about 30mpg highway driving down in Florida and I was driving highway for hours at a time. I usually get about 26-29 mpg 75% highway 25% city. 37mpg is total bullcrap. No way. I totally agree. my 94 gt gets babied by me. 75% highway, 25% city i'm lucky to get 29-30mpg. I got 37 one time on a trip to Long Island through the mountains. I was following my step dads truck with a big trailer full of steel on it to do a job. 37.6 mpg due to DRAFTING. So I guess we shouldn't drive fast and we should always follow semi-trucks. HOWEVER, if you look at my profile you'll see my recent deer accident, post accident (new plugs, wires and distributor) i got 32 pretty easily..... for two weeks I think I had my timing a little advanced and after the computer "fixed" that by retarding the timing, i'm back to 28.75 mpg. See here for the confirmation http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/timing.htm -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) ![]() |
alright well I got a solid figure for beams redtop
I got 340 miles from a full tank driving streets only!! all the way till the gas light turned on. When the Gas light turns on it means you have two gallons left right??? So 340 miles (street miles) divided by 14 gallons = 24.5 miles per gallon when shifting between 2,500 rpm and 3,000 rpm. I always keep my speed at 45-50mph max while on the streets. i'd say thats not too bad... This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 21, 2016 - 4:08 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) ![]() |
Just an updated on my situation; I'm getting between 300 and 375 miles on a 12.5 gal fill-up - the lower number the more I drive in the city and the higher number the more I drive on the highway. I'm averaging between 27 and 34MPG usually.
Only recent work has been new intake, new battery, header, and bottom o2 sensor replacement. -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 21, '05 From Okinawa, Japan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Just chiming in...
Here in Okinawa where there is no real freeway longer than 80km(ish) I do mostly city driving. Couple that with a heavy foot at times and my MPG isn't so hot. For a 98 BEAMS with an auto tranny and just an intake, over the last 8 months, I averaged 21.6 MPG! ![]() This post has been edited by blackthunder: Nov 8, 2011 - 11:02 PM -------------------- -Dan
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) ![]() |
i know i'm reviving an old thread but here is something i found on the U.S. Dept of Energy website.
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Just chiming in... Here in Okinawa where there is no real freeway longer than 80km(ish) I do mostly city driving. Couple that with a heavy foot at times and my MPG isn't so hot. For a 98 BEAMS with an auto tranny and just an intake, over the last 8 months, I averaged 21.6 MPG! ![]() Ouch. I get a decent mixture of city and highway miles and with mine running pig rich, I still get 33-34 mpg. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
i know i'm reviving an old thread but here is something i found on the U.S. Dept of Energy website. ![]() Source: Transportation Energy Data Book I like this alot because it helps show how the aerodynamics of the car change with velocity -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
So, drive 25 mph all the the time.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
60i believe is their approved number on the graph lol
but 25 also a nice figure lol This post has been edited by ricochet1490: May 4, 2012 - 11:54 PM -------------------- ![]() |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Good to know, guess in all of those 55 mph areas I'll have to speed a little. *cough* I'M SAVING OUR PLANET, GAH.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 3, '11 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
by the way.... that HAS to be an st model.
The aerodynamics would be the same, so that's also the best fuel economy for a gt..... but there is not a gt on the planet that gets :cough: 48mpg! at 60mph..... I don't even this ST's get that kind fuel economy.... -------------------- ![]() |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 26, '11 From ventura, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) ![]() |
i average 31-32 with a manual 7afe.....44 isnt gonna happen. i drive fairly modestly for a california driver....
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
28/34 is the original rating. I guess if you were to pulse and glide, and coast whenever possible those kind of numbers would be possible.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 15, '09 From yonkers, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
well i've been keeping track of my mpg in my phone with an app called acar (i highly recomend if you have android) and it seems my mpg average is 20.5mpg highest mpg 24 lowest 18 so everyone getting 29+ lucky you. i really don't mind tho i love my car and the way it feels and drives.
-------------------- *Thing i want for my car(i wish i had money)*
-light blue tint (next step will do this right after i get my paint job) WTB Reasonably priced Projectors just Lows |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 29, '11 From Haltom City, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
These cars really should have had a sixth gear. Could you imagine being at 2500 rpm @ 60 mph
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
More gears! Guess that's why the 7GC GT-S get as good mpg as it does, even with 180 hp.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
^ And there's a 7th gen tranny which fits the 7A, called the C60...six gears.
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Wonder how much that'd help.
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likely not much. The energy needs of the car to push through the air at any given velocity are the same no matter what transmission you have.... I'm sure there is some to be gained, but does the 7a have enough torque to run a 6th gear that is presumably higher?
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The internal drag of the engine and transmission would be reduced with a sixth gear. This is why you arent cruizing around in third or fourth.
The engine is creating alot more friction and heat with its internals spinning faster. |
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heat yes, friction neglibile. The bearings on the crank etc aren't going to have increased drag? but there will be less resistive force put on the engine from less backpressure etc....
But again, no sense in a 6th gear if the motor can't handle it.... need MOAR POWAR and torque for extra gearing... -------------------- ![]() |
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heat yes, friction neglibile. The bearings on the crank etc aren't going to have increased drag? but there will be less resistive force put on the engine from less backpressure etc.... But again, no sense in a 6th gear if the motor can't handle it.... need MOAR POWAR and torque for extra gearing... Windage, oil pump, driven accessories, like I said you dont drive in 4th because its too much work for the engine. My 5SFE could handle another gear, Im in 5th at 30mph |
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^ And there's a 7th gen tranny which fits the 7A, called the C60...six gears. 7afe is an A series engine 2zzge is a ZZ series engine. THe c60 transmission will be a direct fit onto the 7a engine. You'll need the Toyota Levin BZ-R 6 speed transmission, which is a C160 transmission that comes stock with a helical lsd. -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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^^Hmm, might be worth doing for just the LSD.
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^^Hmm, might be worth doing for just the LSD. What about non ethanol when the tests were put out? -------------------- |
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got to remember guys that when these original Estimated gas mileage were put out they would NEVER reflect what could be had in the real world. it was a number given under optimal driving conditions in every way and more like ricer math than a representation of what mileage you could expect from the car.. .. that's why the revisions were made a few years back to what manufactures post as city/highway mileage. current estimated gas mileage include regular start stop driving habits of city driving, the need to pass at highway speeds and not just stay at a constant optimal speed, the use of the A/C system is also included in the newer mileage estimates. and if i am not mistaken i believe that newer mileage estimates are based on an average highway speed of 80mph, and not the old US federally mandated standard 55MPH.. all of this makes a difference. today's standards are much more demanding of the manufactures but also represent an attainable MPG.
it has been almost 20 years since the first 6g-celica has rolled off the line, and technology has come a long way and advanced, all the wile the cost to implement it on a platform has gone down.. if the car were to be made w/ today's technology applied to it, with today's MPG rating standards being the measuring stick, i am confident in saying that the ST would be a 35-40 highway car and the GT a 30-35 highway car. wile accounting for the fact that the car would most likely be about 200 lbs heavier from all the new safety equipment, most of that added weight would have been shed as there is more use of aluminum in cars today. (so really about the same weight). the motor it self would be a completely different daemon. wile staying in line with the original design goals and nature of the 7aFE, today's incarnation of the 7aFE would most likely be like a baby 2AZ-FE.. incorporating twin cam variable valve timing, a slight increase in compression ratio, longer power band (and the gearing to go with it). if it were made TODAY it would also most likely have direct injection.. all of this would give you a car that has 180hp (or close to it and only if it had direct injection, this estimate is based on what toyta's new DI motors are getting for volume to power ratings.)and a real world 35-40MPG highway... oh and the car would be in the same price point segment as it was when the 6gc was first on the lot.. yes sure all of that last paragraph is just talk and conjecture, but it is just to prove a point that the old MPG ratings were complete crap, and that even now, with the newer more stringent standards on MPG and engine power ratings, if the 6G celica were made today, the original 35-40 highway MPG goals WOULD be attainable.. -------------------- |
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They would do what they did back in the day. The ST would get the Corolla engine and the GT would get the Camry engine. So, the Celica would get what they get more or less. Maybe a little less due to sportier gearing for the Celica. I wish they'd come back out with the Celica. I'd make it my next car in a heartbeat. Hopefully with Toyota getting back to how things were, we'll see a new Celica soon.
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Nice Bonzai, is that yours?
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That's exactly what my old ST auto got. My GT did better than the sticker advertised.
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Nice Bonzai, is that yours? thats my old celica st. When my dad bought this, the lady gave this too us. Factory tags like you see on the lot. -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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3sge beams in a 1999 celica gt got a combined 28mpg on city and highway.
Im using 91 octane here in California and kept my rpms at under 3500 rpm. all at under 1,000 feet above sea level Fyi i tried looking for most recent post about mpg but cudnt find it This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 26, 2013 - 12:21 PM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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What should be my speed on the highway for maximum fuel economy? There is a graph above showing 60 mph, do you guys agree?
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55-60 generally is the most efficient highway speed. I can't help but feel at times our cars need a 6th gear though.
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I squeezed out 500 miles from a full tank driving at 62mph drafting behind trucks. This is a straight drive, no stops at all.
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I squeezed out 500 miles from a full tank driving at 62mph drafting behind trucks. This is a straight drive, no stops at all. I remember seeing that on Mythbusters. If you're feeling particularly cheap and adventurous if you draft within a few feet you'll get great gas mileage. ![]() -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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I did 35 mpg yesterday. 55 to 65 mph travel speed. At 70 I get about 31. Most of the time I'm about 32.5 mpg.
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My 3SFE always gets good economy!
I always get 350 - 370kms to half a tank (217miles - 230 miles) Best i've done was 425kms on 32 Litres (264 miles to 8.4 gallons) Haha, i hope these converters are accurate ![]() -------------------- ![]() |
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I travel between two cities here in NC very frequently (about once a month). At no more than 3k RPM and traveling no faster than 70 mph I managed to get 45.5 MPG at my best - while 42 has been my average. People say blasting the heat and drafting off semi trucks doesn't net an MPG increase, but that was when I achieved 45.5 MPG. The trip is 166 miles in total, so the calculations are averaged out enough. Of course this trip is all highway. I'm always engaged in project maximum MPG!
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94 5sfe
5 tanks into ownership, getting between 520-580km per tank depending on how i drive and how how long i drive with the gas light on. i'm confident I can break 600km and maybe even reach 700. Just haven't made a long-distance trip yet. Average is 27mpg. Much better than my old Maxima at 19mpg. Missing that v6 power though... |
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I get around 6 miles per gallon
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3k at 100km/h
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97 st limited edition. 222,222 miles the other day.
I can pull out 50+mpg if i really wanted to. Hypermiling anyone? I do it sometimes when i want to save for car parts. Lol |
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What are some main factors that encourage MPG ? I know having good tires makes a big difference. With my 92 auto ST I would get 500kms/tank with stock 14 " and would get approximately 420kms/ tank with 17" rims and low profile tires. With my 95 gt I don't like letting get under half of tank but can get approximately 350kms/ half a tank in the city.
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What are some main factors that encourage MPG ? I know having good tires makes a big difference. With my 92 auto ST I would get 500kms/tank with stock 14 " and would get approximately 420kms/ tank with 17" rims and low profile tires. With my 95 gt I don't like letting get under half of tank but can get approximately 350kms/ half a tank in the city. You are actually traveling faster on bigger rims than what the speedometer says. Therefore really getting more kms/ tank than you think. |
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When i use my 17" rims with 225/45 tires my speedometer gives me the actual GPS speed. When i drive 120 km/h it's really 120 km/h. When i use my winter rims 15" with 195/60 (or so) tires then i drive about 130 km/h on tacho which is a 120 km/h gps speed.
With the 4AGE 20V blacktop my mpg is the same as with the 7AFE about 28+ mpg with 17". This is mainly short distances and 120 km/h on the highway and sometimes take it to 8200 rpm ![]() I'm really curious if the blacktop will be even better on mpg when my C160 gearbox is in ![]() This post has been edited by onnaj: Nov 6, 2013 - 3:57 AM -------------------- |
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1997 Celica - 1998 Celica: ----------------------------- (L/100KMS) --- (MPG) ---- ENG.. | TRANSMISSION | CITY - HWY | CITY - HWY 5SFE | MANUAL .......| 10.6 - 7.6 |_ 27 - 37 Was this a self test? Because I have a 5sfe with a s54 tranny and I get around 22 in the city and 27 highway. Also this original paper info I found in my glove box seems accurate to what I typically get also. ![]() -------------------- |
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I get an average of 25-27mpg. That's with 70%city and 30%highway. City sucks balls in Los Angeles, a lot of stop and go and idling.
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My GT4 gets around 28mpg during mixed driving but if im driving hard i will average about 18mpg
the only mods i have are a apexi exhaust and sard intake everything elses is stock This post has been edited by Caleb: Nov 22, 2013 - 3:31 AM |
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My GT4 gets around 28mpg during mixed driving but if im driving hard i will average about 18mpg the only mods i have are a apexi exhaust and sard intake everything elses is stock Awesome. I wonder what a 3SGTE swap will do, you know, without the added strain and weight of the 4x4. -------------------- |
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I get an average of 25-27mpg. That's with 70%city and 30%highway. City sucks balls in Los Angeles, a lot of stop and go and idling. LOL! Come drive in NYC if you think city driving in LA is bad. I typically get about 22 MPG in driving that is entirely in city-like traffic mostly in the lower gears with an A/T. On the hwy it's closer to 30 MPG. But mine's a 'vert that's driven only in summer, and always with the top down, unless it's raining. ![]() |
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I don't think these numbers reflect the convertibles. My 95 vert gets 25 mpg average. I filled the tank up on two separate occasions and noted the mileage at full and at empty.
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My 94 gt got 32.5 on cruise control when I drove to florida. The motor died 500 miles later
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3SGE Beams:
I got 29mpg combined city and highway. In the city I never went over 2600 rpm and highway never went over 3600 rpm This was all done with 14 gal of gas with 410miles This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 7, 2014 - 1:06 AM -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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I get roughly 40 MPG (620 km from tank full to tank empty) or about 7.5 liter/100 km. 7AFE with 70.000 real km on the counter
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My 94 ST manual with 300,000 miles gets 30 mpg in the winter, with about 50/50 highway to city miles. Rest of the year I still get about 34 mpg.
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my 5spd GT with the 5sfe gets around 25 mpg. I get to 1/2 tank at about 200 miles, and the light comes on around 325 miles, and it takes about 13 gallons to fill it back up. I keep thinking that I am going to drive around and not accelerate hard and keep it below 3k rpm, and then I say to hell with it spin it all the way up anyway.
especially since I replaced the motor mounts, now I want to go around dumping the clutch as hard as I can just to be amazed by how much soother it is now. however, what I have noticed is that the given size of the tank is 15.9 gallons. but I don't think the fuel gauge reads in a linear fashion. For if I got to 1/2 tank at 200 miles, I would get to E at 400 miles. Instead the light comes on when it hits E with 3 gallons still left in the tank. I have filled it as soon as the light comes on many times and found it only needed less than 13 gallons to fill back up. Once I actually needed to keep driving some 50 miles after the light came on, and I was quite sure I still had at least a gallon left. So it's like there are 4 gallons for each of the First two quarters of the tank(by the fuel gauge), and about 2 1/2 gallons for each of the last two quarters of the fuel gauge. This post has been edited by VavAlephVav: Mar 15, 2014 - 5:14 PM -------------------- Bust a Deal; Face the Wheel.
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I just got my first mileage back since I filled her up today. Got 336 miles to 13.8 gallons giving me 24.5 MPG.
This was probably 85% highway 15% city, however that doesn't mean the pedal wasn't to the floor on just about every on-ramp and here and there on the highway itself... lol. If it was all highway and I WASN'T blasting up ramps I could see getting close to 30MPG. This post has been edited by cardshark525: Mar 15, 2014 - 2:41 PM |
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After two years of ownership averaged out 36 and sometimes saw low 40's with the 7A-FE/5-speed.
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So just to update here for those that were interested in how a swap does:
70% City (and heavy foot) I got 19mpg. 95% Highway (and light foot) I got 28.2mpg. (However this 95% highway was on I-80 doing a steady 80MPH. I would anticipate around 32-33 if it was a 55 road and you were doing 55). As always, your experience may vary. |
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I don't think these numbers reflect the convertibles. My 95 vert gets 25 mpg average. I filled the tank up on two separate occasions and noted the mileage at full and at empty. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the vert is the heaviest of the bunch as well. Aerodymics matter with a vert. Also an automatic isn't a efficient as a manual. City driving is having a stop sign on every other corner, if not every corner. No remedy for that. ![]() |
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