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post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:33 PM
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Hello, I was wondering about how much it costs for parts and labor to convert my car over to all wheel drive. Also if that means I will need the 3s-gte engine swap/transmission to handle it?
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post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:38 PM
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QUOTE (mikemikula @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:33 PM) *
Hello, I was wondering about how much it costs for parts and labor to convert my car over to all wheel drive. Also if that means I will need the 3s-gte engine swap/transmission to handle it?

id say at least $20,000 could be wrong
post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:43 PM
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Wow, for that much Miswell get a new car ehh? lol
post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:48 PM
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The AWD parts you can get from me, Trans, axles, driveshafts, rear diff, etc will run you 1800 shipped. A GEN3 3sgte will run you 2400 with free shipping to your door.

If bought together, you can save some money. Everything together will run you 3800 with free shipping to your door. Then you will need to find a competent mechanic who is wiling to take him time and read the wealth of information on this site about swapping to a 3sgte. Then you need to bring in a guy who does frame repair and show him where he needs to weld you up some subframes for the rear. Once the subframes are made and welded into the car,,,you can basically bolt the AWD stuff in. You will have some more fabrication work such as cutting out the spare tire well in the back, running a fuel cell, or ST165/185/205 gas tank, extending brake lines, and welding in some drive shaft support brackets,

It is possible, but you need someone with a good head on his shoulders, and someone you can trust, I hope this helps.


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post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:49 PM
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QUOTE (mikemikula @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:43 PM) *
Wow, for that much Miswell get a new car ehh? lol


yeah and you have a coupe never seen an awd coupe only done on hatches id love to have my coupe awd but aint gonna happen...
post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:50 PM
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^^^^^


20,000 wtf??

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post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:51 PM
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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:50 PM) *
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20,000 wtf??


yeah i kinda pulled dat one out of the air lol but ive talked to someone doing it and he said its up there
post Jun 1, 2010 - 6:52 PM
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nothing is ever cheap when you need to pay for labor

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QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jun 2, 2010 - 2:51 PM) *
QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:50 PM) *
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20,000 wtf??


yeah i kinda pulled dat one out of the air lol but ive talked to someone doing it and he said its up there



damn i don't think you would gain anything form a 5s being awd other than gaining a second onto your 1/4mile time lol

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nothing is ever cheap when you need to pay for labor

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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Johnnyny @ Jun 2, 2010 - 2:51 PM) *
QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ Jun 1, 2010 - 7:50 PM) *
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20,000 wtf??


yeah i kinda pulled dat one out of the air lol but ive talked to someone doing it and he said its up there



damn i don't think you would gain anything form a 5s being awd other than gaining a second onto your 1/4mile time lol

QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 2, 2010 - 2:52 PM) *
nothing is ever cheap when you need to pay for labor

agreed

im sure the car would be slower with the added weight and stress on the engine
post Jun 1, 2010 - 7:05 PM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ May 31, 2010 - 9:34 PM) *
Nope the listing is a misprint. Those are for the 205.


Pay me 10k n its done
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QUOTE (pipes @ Jun 1, 2010 - 8:05 PM) *
QUOTE (presure2 @ May 31, 2010 - 9:34 PM) *
Nope the listing is a misprint. Those are for the 205.


Pay me 10k n its done


parts included?
post Jun 1, 2010 - 7:28 PM
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Well I just picked this car up for 2,200$ stuck 1,400$ in it and still have another 1200$ to go before its all clean. I'll have to wait till next summer before I think about AWD. I live in Wisconsin so 4wd sounds appealing for snow.

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post Jun 1, 2010 - 7:29 PM
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Ok 10,200 I rather pay jim n even 4k
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post Aug 19, 2010 - 7:32 PM
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could you use the sub frame out of 5th gen all trac?


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QUOTE (KALLusion @ Aug 19, 2010 - 8:32 PM) *
could you use the sub frame out of 5th gen all trac?


u probably could... but ima say no since they are different sizes could be wrong though try it and let us know lol
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jun 1, 2010 - 4:48 PM) *
The AWD parts you can get from me, Trans, axles, driveshafts, rear diff, etc will run you 1800 shipped. A GEN3 3sgte will run you 2400 with free shipping to your door.

If bought together, you can save some money. Everything together will run you 3800 with free shipping to your door. Then you will need to find a competent mechanic who is wiling to take him time and read the wealth of information on this site about swapping to a 3sgte. Then you need to bring in a guy who does frame repair and show him where he needs to weld you up some subframes for the rear. Once the subframes are made and welded into the car,,,you can basically bolt the AWD stuff in. You will have some more fabrication work such as cutting out the spare tire well in the back, running a fuel cell, or ST165/185/205 gas tank, extending brake lines, and welding in some drive shaft support brackets,

It is possible, but you need someone with a good head on his shoulders, and someone you can trust, I hope this helps.



would you be able to ship over an entire rear subframe off a gt4. That way the guys in the USA have a way to make a OEM specification jig for the awd parts.
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not gonna lie if i wanted a legal and fast AWD car painlessly and less time consuming to attain and i live in the US

id go buy me a subaru ...not to knock on anything but its hot out of the package with potential without the cutting and welding

if your on a budget and want a awd car with heat and dont mind age ... the early 90's all tracs are awesome sorta hard to find..


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I have everything, all I need is a rear floor plan and I can convert my ST182 GTR JDM Spec to ST185. Where can I get the rear end floor? And I’m putting in

ST205
1) Engine
2) Gearbox with transfercase
3) Propshaft (all 3 parts)
4) Rear Subframe with diff

ST185
1) Rear Floor plan
2) breaks discs
3) full suspension


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What if i wanted to make it rwd instead of awd. The motor is going to be a 2gr and other than the transmission what do you think I can transfer from the gt four to a st204
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QUOTE (demmahom34 @ Jan 30, 2019 - 9:43 PM) *
What if i wanted to make it rwd instead of awd. The motor is going to be a 2gr and other than the transmission what do you think I can transfer from the gt four to a st204


Nothing will swap over since you're going RWD.


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QUOTE (demmahom34 @ Jan 30, 2019 - 8:43 PM) *
What if i wanted to make it rwd instead of awd. The motor is going to be a 2gr and other than the transmission what do you think I can transfer from the gt four to a st204

A pain in the ass conversion you want to do.

You will need 2grfse i think, thats already rwd. Maube ford 8 inch differential. And a lot of welding supplies.


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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 31, 2019 - 12:21 PM) *
QUOTE (demmahom34 @ Jan 30, 2019 - 8:43 PM) *
What if i wanted to make it rwd instead of awd. The motor is going to be a 2gr and other than the transmission what do you think I can transfer from the gt four to a st204

A pain in the ass conversion you want to do.

You will need 2grfse i think, thats already rwd. Maube ford 8 inch differential. And a lot of welding supplies.


Yup it’s a big project, I’m still thinking about it and the 2gr too since they don’t come in a manual trans
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i love my 2gr swap, more power than the car needs, and i used e153


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QUOTE (demmahom34 @ Feb 6, 2019 - 5:47 AM) *
Yup it’s a big project, I’m still thinking about it and the 2gr too since they don’t come in a manual trans


Like said, the e153 conversion will work w/ the 2GR. You'll have to run the custom axle setup.

Also that you're in the northern states, it is probably best just to get a subaru and call it a day. I mean hell that's all you see here (in MN).
I would just wait to import an actual GT4 over, thus in the meantime throw a V6 into your current celica and join the V6 group!

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