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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
Do you take it to redline or shift with the powerband?
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 7, '09 From Northern kentucky Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (90%) ![]() |
the car will not pull past 5400 rpm
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
Is that where you shift for maximum performance?
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 6, '10 From rochdale Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
mines the ssII 3sge, i shift between 4k an 6k, 6k when iam flooring it, i never go above 65ook the risk of hitting the redline is too embrassing
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![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) ![]() |
With the 5S-FE, the power drops off significantly. You are best to shift and stay with the powerband rather than take it all the way to redline.
-------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
![]() 2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) ![]() |
Depends on your mods, im running an intake and exhaust and that alone raises the power band a bit. But yes shift when the power band starts to drop off...
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
I got walked by a 2001 celica gt(no worries, in a controlled, safe and legal environment) in a straight line. We started at about 60 miles an hour, and I tried to stay in third gear, because forth has a lot less pull. But he was a good car length in front of me. I'm thinking it's time I stop being the slowest celica ever, and join club 5sfte
![]() -------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) ![]() |
7th gen Celicas will do that to us. Even the GT has 140 hp, to our 130. The GT-S has 180, so there's no competition between our cars stock and a 7th gen. With a 5S, it's best to shift wherever you have to as long as it keeps the car in power. Shifting at redline just wastes gas and time.
-------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
![]() 2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 8, '08 From Orlando, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
from my experience, shifting anywhere past ~5200 is useless. car makes plenty noise but zero power.
-------------------- ◊◊◊ My F/S Thread! ◊◊◊
QUOTE (14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out. QUOTE Ferdi says (11:29) No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '06 From Medicine Hat, AB Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
i shift between 3k and 4k.
oops this is for 5sfe not a 205. but srsly, no sense in driving hard for no reason around town in my honest opinion. -------------------- current project: looking :(
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 8, '08 From Orlando, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) ![]() |
^^ oh, he said for max performance.
normally, i shift at 2k or 3k. -------------------- ◊◊◊ My F/S Thread! ◊◊◊
QUOTE (14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out. QUOTE Ferdi says (11:29) No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings. |
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![]() Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From west co@st Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
i shift around 3200 usually
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 24, '09 From Appleton, Wisconsin 54915 Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) ![]() |
I normally shift at 3500 but if i feel like flooring it, ill take it to 5800 before i shift.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) ![]() |
even though i have an auto, i drive it like a manual lol
![]() i shift between 3 and 5k, about 5.5k when i floor it. i know its probably not the best thing to do with an auto, but I have to semi practice shifting before I do an a2m swap |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
i dont shift. ever
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
Hmm very many interesting responses. I will soon turbo this bad boy(been researching this 24/7 in awe for the past 6 months) And then walk this Celica. Then, and only then will people stop calling me "slow"
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 10, '09 From Louisiana Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) ![]() |
research another 6 months 24/7, and i shift around 3500
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
I will probably ending up doing that; I won't have the money to go through with this, and I'm not going to try and do it on a budget. But when I do build it, it will be badass, fast, and reliable.
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 9, '08 From Blainville Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
Always shift at 3k.. Always.
Unless I feel like flooring it (When I get real pissed), I can go up to 5.5k. But it's very rare that I will exceed 3k. When I'm in a more sporty-driving mood I usually drive in the 3-4k but not more. 99% of the time I'm always in the 2-3k rpms. I wanna take care of it hehe. Although, at 2k and lower I feel like the car misses power/torque so much, it almost stalls. This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: Sep 12, 2010 - 11:00 PM |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 13, '08 From Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) ![]() |
5400rpm all the time.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) ![]() |
another reason the 7th gen will walk away is the weight difference. its about 700-800 pounds.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
very true, when i fisrt found out how heavy celicas were i wanted to call toyota and give them my 2 cents, why would you make a sporty car be as heavy as an eliphant with no power.( unless you have a swaped engine)... but toyota was thinkin saftey so you cant go wrong there!!
another reason the 7th gen will walk away is the weight difference. its about 700-800 pounds.
This post has been edited by 4-eyed-freek: Sep 13, 2010 - 12:45 PM -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '10 From Davenport, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
my shift point depends on my mood and how long that light was yellow for
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
I still am not sure whether I want to swap in a 3sgte, or turbo the 5sfe. The 3s has much more aftermarket support, and is factory turbo, so it's built for the boost, but the 5s is torquier than it. Presure was able to pull some pretty impressive numbers from it.
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) ![]() |
v6, y0.
seriously drop in any MZ series block and you will have ~the same power as a 2nd gen 3s, and then you can shift at 2500 and beat any stock celi around -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) ![]() |
What's the aftermarket support for the mz series?
-------------------- ![]() 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 23, '05 From Kansas City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Always shift at 3k.. Always. Unless I feel like flooring it (When I get real pissed), I can go up to 5.5k. But it's very rare that I will exceed 3k. When I'm in a more sporty-driving mood I usually drive in the 3-4k but not more. 99% of the time I'm always in the 2-3k rpms. I wanna take care of it hehe. Although, at 2k and lower I feel like the car misses power/torque so much, it almost stalls. At 2k and below you are lugging your engine, which puts extra stress on the rods and just generally isn't good for your engine (for those who don't know lugging is basically any time where you can give the engine more gas and the engine is unable to or struggles to increase in RPM). I shift around 3500-4000 RPM on just about every shift, will bring it up to 5k every now and then but anything above 5k just seems to be a waste of gas. -------------------- 1999 Celica GT
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 6, '08 From Lisarow, NSW, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Everyones right that it doesn't make much power after 5400rpm but the thing is the higher you rev it the higher the revs you will be doing in the next gear.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Oct 22, '08 From St.Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (67%) ![]() |
i shift at 6k every time or 5800 but usually it goes right up to six no problem
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