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So now that i got my car almost fixed....i realized that my car doesnt want to go over 122 mph.
is that normal or is there still something wrong with the car, maybe just the tuning. even though the rpm is around 4500 4800, the car doesnt really go anywhere...just wanted to make sure if thats normal or anywhere close to other GT celicas thanks -------------------- For Sale:OEM tail lights - make offer
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 4, '06 From Medicine Hat, AB Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) ![]() |
the correct answer to the topic is...
"slow". and its called a governor which is causing it so you car wont go any faster. your car isnt hitting 122 mph on the 1/4 mile strip either being a 5sfe so I dont recommend you driving 122 mph out on the streets my friend. -------------------- current project: looking :(
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unless you have a swap or a 5s turbo your not going to get anywhere fast lol, and yes your governer is whats telling your engine to cut fuel to save its ass from damage. and no there probably isnt anything wrong with your car lol.
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Lol, I feel like this gets asked at least once a week...people need to stop assuming celicas are the same as hondas, you gotta pay to play my friend.
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
Lol, I feel like this gets asked at least once a week...people need to stop assuming celicas are the same as hondas, you gotta pay to play my friend. hahah that just made my day.. nice way to put it! -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 5, '09 From Katy/houston Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) ![]() |
lol true that...
but i remember that when my brother had the car, he touched 133 with a effed up engine...and it wasnt just the speedometer saying that, the gps also clocked the same speed...so it really cant be the governor...i always thought that our celicas never had one? -------------------- For Sale:OEM tail lights - make offer
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
yea they do have a governer, its what save your engine from people who want to set a land speed record with an N/A engine. ive heard of people going faster, but speed isnt everything, cars dont have to be fast in my opinion, looks will go a long ways in my mind. This post has been edited by 4-eyed-freek: Oct 16, 2010 - 11:04 PM -------------------- It takes 8,460 bolts to assemble an automobile, and one nut to scatter it all over the road.
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5SFE's and 7AFE's are about as fast as a cheetah with 2 broken legs, let's put it that way.
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hahahahahah i like how that was put!!! that made my night for sure
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Lol, I feel like this gets asked at least once a week...people need to stop assuming celicas are the same as hondas, you gotta pay to play my friend. Honda's are fast? lol -------------------- -Protection mode, For when your amp tries to blow its load. 1995 Toyota Celica GTS - Daily Driver 1999 Chevy Cavalier - Winter Beater 1994 Honda Civic CX Hatchback - Dead My Celica! |
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Lol, I feel like this gets asked at least once a week...people need to stop assuming celicas are the same as hondas, you gotta pay to play my friend. Honda's are fast? lol That's was my question! Other than NSXs and S2000s... I dunno! Ha -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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A Celica may or may not have a governor. I don't know. I know what I have gotten mine to do and what it wanted to do. The only thing I know is that I've never hit a governor and I've done better than 122. Quite a bit better. The problem is that the 5S runs out of power before it can hit a governor.
Yes, the Celica GT really is that slow. But it gets killer gas mileage. I found that it's best to milk the gas mileage and forget about ever going fast. Ever. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
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Slower than my bone stock audi and the audi is painfully slow. I think my rx7 makes more power at idle than the celica does at full RPM lol.
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My 94 gt-s can reach about 195km/h on the speedometer, but ive had a few friends follow me and they say im going about 220km/h which is about 137mph, maybe your speedometer isnt right like mine, most stock speedometers arnt that great after 150 or so km/h (90mph).
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
i know my fuel cut off kicks in around 110 ish, at a track day at road america i could only push 125, and it was having a hell of a time with that.
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I have to ask this, why do you even want to go 140mph.... Even if you street race you still don't go that fast from digs or rolls.
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I have to ask this, why do you even want to go 140mph.... Even if you street race you still don't go that fast from digs or rolls. ![]() -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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I have to ask this, why do you even want to go 140mph.... Even if you street race you still don't go that fast from digs or rolls. Fast cars can get up to 140 very easily... I trap higher than 140 and street races usually go longer than 1/4. -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '10 From U.P. michigan GO STATE Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) ![]() |
yup, im going to stick to autocross and track days! lol
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Fast cars can get up to 140 very easily... I trap higher than 140 and street races usually go longer than 1/4. Rule # I don't know. Don't talk about street racing. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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I dont recommend you driving 122 mph out on the streets my friend. X2, I cant stress this enough. sure it is fun, but if you sit down and think about it. you are putting your life one the line, and if you get caught.. I'm not sure what the laws are by you, but in Illinois if you get caught, you WILL pay out the ass. 2 years ago i was caught speeding down a country road, and got slapped with a $500 fine, 2 years conditional discharge and that's with a $1000 lawyer. starting this year, the fines have skyrocketed to mandatory thousands of dollars in fines and mandatory jail time. ![]() -------------------- |
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Fast cars can get up to 140 very easily... I trap higher than 140 and street races usually go longer than 1/4. Rule # I don't know. Don't talk about street racing. I dont see that rule, even if that's the case i'm pretty sure its talking about specific incidents, not as a general fact. I dont know why but every thread you post in, it has to be something negative about something..... -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
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I dont see that rule, even if that's the case i'm pretty sure its talking about specific incidents, not as a general fact. I dont know why but every thread you post in, it has to be something negative about something..... You don't really look at a lot of threads then, man. And you did say that you trap higher than 140. I guess I should've asked if it was on the street or not. My bad. And Forum Rules
1. Keep your posts clean. These forums, like the rest of the site, are designed to be a family-safe environment, and that means that you must watch your use of obscenities. This also means not attacking others in your posts. You must respect everyone here. If you're not going to post something helpful or respectful, don't post. This also means no pornography, sexist, racist, hateful, or illegal content as well. This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Oct 17, 2010 - 6:30 PM -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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I dont get the point in why you would want to go 140 mph, down a road, in the dark, with a car that shouldnt be able to go past 95 safely.
Now your car is completely different from what I stated above, with the numbers your LS2 has im sure you trap at the same my friend twin turbo ls2 does. Comparing your car to a 6gc is like comparing a cheetah to a sloth, your car idles faster than a gt can go. |
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I dont see that rule, even if that's the case i'm pretty sure its talking about specific incidents, not as a general fact. I dont know why but every thread you post in, it has to be something negative about something..... You don't really look at a lot of threads then, man. And you did say that you trap higher than 140. I guess I should've asked if it was on the street or not. My bad. And Forum Rules 1. Keep your posts clean. These forums, like the rest of the site, are designed to be a family-safe environment, and that means that you must watch your use of obscenities. This also means not attacking others in your posts. You must respect everyone here. If you're not going to post something helpful or respectful, don't post. This also means no pornography, sexist, racist, hateful, or illegal content as well. Trap speed is at the track what you finish the 1/4 mile at. So at the track. I wasn't really talking about specific street races or anything. ![]() -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
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I dont get the point in why you would want to go 140 mph, down a road, in the dark, with a car that shouldnt be able to go past 95 safely. Now your car is completely different from what I stated above, with the numbers your LS2 has im sure you trap at the same my friend twin turbo ls2 does. Comparing your car to a 6gc is like comparing a cheetah to a sloth, your car idles faster than a gt can go. that is so true...there is noway u can compare my gt to a rx7...those cars are like superfast...u can compare it to a supra if u like ![]() and asfar as street racing and speeding is involved...u guys are rite..its not worth it.... but this this is getin off topic...i just wanna know if the car could go faster....im not saying that ill go that fast everyday...and when i say fast, i dont mean i want supercar speed, just something like scion tc's and civic integra etc. u know fwd "ricer" cars lol -------------------- For Sale:OEM tail lights - make offer
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but this this is getin off topic...i just wanna know if the car could go faster....im not saying that ill go that fast everyday...and when i say fast, i dont mean i want supercar speed, just something like scion tc's and civic integra etc. u know fwd "ricer" cars lol You mean acceleration then. Who cares about top speed? Leave that to McLaren F1's and Buggati Veyrons. You can turbo your 5SFE. I've seen 5SGTEs put down about 300hp. But if you don't want to turbo or swap, most you can cost-effectively do is your normal intake, header, exhaust mods. N/A, these cars are pretty slow... -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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but this this is getin off topic...i just wanna know if the car could go faster....im not saying that ill go that fast everyday...and when i say fast, i dont mean i want supercar speed, just something like scion tc's and civic integra etc. u know fwd "ricer" cars lol You mean acceleration then. Who cares about top speed? Leave that to McLaren F1's and Buggati Veyrons. You can turbo your 5SFE. I've seen 5SGTEs put down about 300hp. But if you don't want to turbo or swap, most you can cost-effectively do is your normal intake, header, exhaust mods. N/A, these cars are pretty slow... Yeah, I dont have that much experience with these cars, but in general if you have any plans on making your car faster... just keep saving the money and go forced induction first. I remember spending boatloads of money on bolt-ons for basically crap performance. I think I only raised my trap speed 2-3 mph. For the price of all the boltons I could have bought used supercharger kit; which I did eventually anyway. -------------------- -93 Rx7, Turbo 6.1L v8, 725rwhp/760rwtq
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jeez i go to get some food, and man did this topic get far lol wheeeew!
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dis fread iz stoopid
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^ agreed
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Mine stops at 185Kph. But my friend's can go over 200kph. Dunno why.
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ok, can we stop posting in this lame azz thread.
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ST is governed at 111mph
GT has no governor but dont go much faster than the speed limit. the potential force your car has increases by the SQUARE of your speed. AND stopping distance is much longer. in other words, if something happens that you don't expect, your fcked. you drive past that fire station near DEATHs house? it has on display a car that was wrapped around something. wanna end up like that? -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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ST is governed at 111mph GT has no governor but dont go much faster than the speed limit. the potential force your car has increases by the SQUARE of your speed. AND stopping distance is much longer. in other words, if something happens that you don't expect, your fcked. you drive past that fire station near DEATHs house? it has on display a car that was wrapped around something. wanna end up like that? I would like a picture of resultant display "car". And I agree with the wisdom in the thread - don't get reckless with your cars...or your lives. -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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ST is governed at 111mph GT has no governor but dont go much faster than the speed limit. the potential force your car has increases by the SQUARE of your speed. AND stopping distance is much longer. in other words, if something happens that you don't expect, your fcked. you drive past that fire station near DEATHs house? it has on display a car that was wrapped around something. wanna end up like that? Likely there is some amount of the driver still within that car as well. I'm with Presure - this kind of thread deserves no response - it should be closed before anyone gets any stupid ideas. ![]() -------------------- ![]() ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI] PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/ INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports EXT: WRC/TRD/404 Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them. Slow down Paul Walker. 6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url] |
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stupid ideas. ![]() You means likes putting teh nitrous in my 7A soz I can go VRROOM VROOMZ like Vin Diesel in The Fast and the Furious?!? Holy moley I wantz tah get me a 150 shot of them thar nitrous. Don't try this at home kids! ![]() ![]() ![]() I kid, I kid. I'm a responsible guy. -------------------- taking too long to mod since '09
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() "Five of six teenagers crowded into a car died when the P-plate driver lost control and smashed into a tree at 120mph, in a crash emergency workers said was the worst they had seen. The horror crash in Melbourne's north also left a 15-year-old girl seriously injured. Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Tim Cartwright said the driver of the Ford XR6 sedan carrying six people from a party in Ivanhoe about 1.50am (AEDT) lost control on Plenty Road, Mill Park, in perfect conditions. Mr Cartwright estimated the vehicle was travelling at 120mph when it struck and wrapped itself around the tree, splitting the vehicle apart. "There are six young people on board, five of them have died instantly. Those killed included driver Steve Johnstone, 19, and his half-brother Will Te-Whare, 15, both of South Morang. Ben Hall, 19, and Matt Lister, 17, also of South Morang, were killed. The injured girl, Elissa Iannetta, lost her 18-year-old brother, Anthony, in the accident. Ambulance paramedic Ron McLeod said rescue workers had to lift three of the dead teens off the 15-year-old to free her from the wreckage." -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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All those pictures are in drivers ed, and in the safty driving class.
If you drive fast thats your decision. Be prepared to face the consequences when you mess up. It isnt if you do, its when. |
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that's why if you want to go that fast, leave it for a track. not the main roads.
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Thanks Stephen for posting those. Topics like this have no point without a grim reminder of the possible effects of speeding and driving recklessly on open roads.
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